This Was a Classic Palpatine Move

Vice Admiral Rampart appeared to be a rising star in the Galactic Empire. He took on important projects like implementing the chain code program and also project war mantle. Ultimately his actions were all part of a plan... just not his plan... but Emperor Palpatine's.
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[@theaestheticskyline328]

I really missed this Palpatine. I always felt like after Order 66, he mostly sat in his chair all day and let his henchmen do all of the dirty work for him. But this episode proves that he's still got it.

[@cask82]

He was busy with Sith artifacts and studies.

[@seanshultze220]

And busy publishing his own books

[@orig1990vintoy]

Palpatine only fights the battles that actually matters in attaining his primary objectives and delegates the rest to his subordinates. This is actually a good leadership quality had he used it for the good of the galaxy.

[@waltonsmith7210]

Thats all he had to do at that point.

[@emmanuelchavez7748]

Bro can't be everywhere at once lmao

[@Bob_Squared23]

Palpatine whipped out that uno reverse card so fast lol

[@DMSProduktions]

It's a wonder he didn't whip out his tockley! ;oP

[@futuramayeah]

there is supposed to be an Uno movie coming

[@berniethekiwidragon4382]

He also whipped out a skip card and a Draw Four on Rampart.

[@mangahell8177]

Head canon as soon as Chu Chi started playing the recording Palpatine started sprinting to the senate meeting to capitaliz on it while also callinf Tarkin to have him and the Inqusitors prepar a room to party for such an easy victory

[@crezd5028]

He’s half jogging going “fuck fuck fuck im gonna be late to my dramatic entrance”.

[@CountKibblesNBits]

In his Robot chicken voice: Amida fix my hood, Oh shit we're on Get In Position Get in Position. Clears throat, (voice changes to Ian Mcdiarmid ) gets into character

[@orokusaki1243]

sprinting? nah, he was already on his seat awaiting to hear which of his schemes (which he had already pre-planned) would be implemented. he's a mastermind manipulator who plays the long game.

[@mangahell8177]

@@orokusaki1243 True but it's funnier to imagen him sprinting becoes Chu Chi give him a better and easier way to remove clone troopers

[@IcefisherTenacity]

I thought his office is right under the center of the senate rotunda.

[@victorscarpes]

Episode 7 felt like a clone wars episode. Episode 8 felt like revenge of the sith. Both fenomenal.

[@briansmith2739]

That's what I love about both. They did a good job of explaining the transition of Clone Troopers to Imperial Strorm Stroopers. Feels like Andor.

[@victorscarpes]

@@briansmith2739 feels like good star wars, hehehehe

[@smitty_werbenjagermanjense7887]

I love how the whole premise of both episodes was basically “Kamino was an inside job”

[@indianajones4321]

This was definitely the Palpatine I know. Spinning any form of the narrative to fit his agenda perfectly. Even if the good guys win, it is fit into the win for Palpatine. Also I loved the shock troopers arresting Rampart, it felt like he got what he deserved… being at the mercy of clones that he treated so poorly.

[@stuartemmanuel3735]

I imagine the clones accidentally bruise him , before given the order to execute him.

[@tsarzamancorpdna]

Clones: i've been waiting my whole life for this

[@noahmaldonado5461]

Palpatine always has a plan C for a plan B for a plan A

[@VerdeMorte]

Straight-up Star Wars meets Just Cause

[@iainballas]

@@stuartemmanuel3735 I'm sure Palpatine would pull rampart aside, and tell him 'it was all a bluff, i've got a super secret mission for you', then put him in charge of something else. Rampart is ruthless, and loyal. He's useful despite incompetence.

[@jeghaterdegforfaen]

I think Palpatine plans for multiple eventualities. In this case, he wanted to replace the clones with conscripted soldiers, so he had Rampart push for it in the Senate. Rampart could've succeeded, and the legislation would've passed because of his efforts (Plan A). However, Rampart failed, and Palpatine managed spin it to his advantage and pass the legislation anyway, (Plan B). So basically, I don't think Palpatine planned for the Bad Batch and Chuchi to expose the truth about Camino, but he did have a contingency in place in case it happened. As an added bonus, the clones status as heroes of the war is tarnished, which means fewer people will care about their retirement. He can now just throw them away without the cost of providing for them. But yeah, maybe a clone revolt is brewing.

[@joluoto]

Palps always have a Plan B, well until he got too arrogant, but that's years from this point.

[@MrDibara]

@@joluoto And the worst part it, it kinda DOES make sense why he grew arrogant. - he tricked and killed the great Darth Plagueis, stealing his projects in the process - he manipulated the Jedi and the Republic right under their nose for more than 14 years, both as a Senator and as the Chancellor - he played both sides of the Clone Wars right on the palm of his hands, with no one soul on either side ever suspecting that (yes, not even Count Dooku) - he was able to silence and even eliminate anyone who could've possibly revealed the whole plan, be it Fives or Maul - he was successful in manipulating Anakin, the legendary Chosen One of prophecy, into becoming his apprentice, his tool - he managed to erradicate the Jedi Order, the long held wetdream of pretty much every Sith ever - he managed to paint himself the image of a great leader in the eyes of the public - he managed to assassinate, destroy and make do with any connections he might've had with starting the Clone Wars, washing his hands clean from the Separatist leaders, the Kaminoans, the Clones He's done ALL THOSE THINGS and MORE, all while avoiding any real consequences. Yeah, when putting things in that perspective, on top of considering his ever growing old age, I now think it makes more sense why Palpatine by the time of Return of the Jedi was no longer the super cunning manipulator that he was in the Prequels. The in real life explanation is that George Lucas simply hadn't written and developed him that way yet back then, but I think the Prequels and everything later on helpe craft a very good reason for it. His ego overrode his intelligence. After so many (honestly) mindblowing achievements, with little to no real consequences come back to bite him, it is really not that shocking to imagine Palpatine just becoming too arrogant for his own good. He basically started feling he ws invencible, he was untouchable, that he could always spin fate in his hands. In short, his successes got to his head. Couple that with his advanced age and he became a shadow of the true master manipulator he once was.

[@xertris]

Thankfully most of Chu Chi's reforms made it into the bill. So clones won't be let off with nothing, but they are going to have a hard time getting much more than they got.

[@jamestownsend25]

@@MrDibara As Luke says in RotJ: "your overconfidence is your weakness"

[@jessandthebirds]

@xertris I don't know, considering Rampart himself said he had no intention of actually fulfilling the provisions, I doubt they will go through. And now Palpatine is turning the public against the clones, I doubt many will care or speak up about them being cast off (besides Chuchi of course)

[@tailssonicteam1604]

Classic palps. Always playing both sides and gets what he wants.

[@danielwongdupp]

Agreed, treachery is the way of the sith and he threw rampart under the bus

[@sirtaelellevalerie1056]

Well, almost always)))

[@Wzrd8]

I overdosed on irony when Rampart told the clones he was only following orders. Also a lot of the channels are missing this but Rampart didnt jsut leave the record on the ship one of the whistle blower clones copied it to the backup computer.

[@disneyknightspadilla1406]

I don’t know who’s idea was to order rampart to destroy kamino it’s either Tarkin or Sidious. Only two sell fish, cruel ignorant, but yet cowardly masterminds would want to destroy the cloning facility to hide the evidence.

[@Zarastro54]

@@disneyknightspadilla1406 It was almost certainly Palpatine. You don’t take drastic action like that on a whim.

[@violetlight1548]

"The Empire pays me, feeds me, and gives me a roof over my head. That's more than the Republic ever did." Alan, I think you're severely underestimating the power of those words. To that trooper, and to millions more like him in the Outer Rim, the Empire was the only ticket off their dirtball planets, out of poverty. They didn't even *have* any options under the Republic. Even Luke Skywalker was looking forward to attending the *Imperial* academy. Ask anyone who's lived in poverty and has clawed their way out -- actions mean far more than empty promises. The Empire delivered on its promise, and *that* breeds loyalty.

[@cvlcek144]

Ngl. If I was offered that 1 way ticket out of poverty and offered those things that trooper was offered, I'd of probably made the sake decision.

[@jonharrison9222]

Until the atrocities start.

[@KeysAndDoorss]

@@jonharrison9222good soldiers follow orders

[@peterbarnard6396]

I always saw Rampart’s “loyalty” argument as a false flag for Tarkin’s benefit. Conscripting citizens was always a way to get the public to be personally and financially bought into the structures of the empire (see Andor’s antagonist).

[@ivancerecer5758]

I always thought of it like, the Clones were simply given Stormtrooper armor, and were mixed in with recruits

[@ultrabrian8151]

It’s canon

[@nagger8216]

Yeah I really don't get why they're adding more unnecessary fluff to all this, I just figured the Empire destroyed the cities on Kamino because of their crippling debt to them, and that all the clones would continue their service while slowly being outnumbered by conscripted soldiers. I don't get why they're making it out that Palpatine is trying throw away an army of billions that are better soldiers than any recruit could be. If anything he'd want to keep as many clones as possible and even find another cloning facility to make more before resorting to conscription. There's a whole 20 years left before A New Hope, the Empire doesn't need to immediately be exactly the same as it was in the OT

[@ArchVile98]

They were in fact. In Star Wars Rebels you can hear some clone stormtroopers in several episodes, voiced by none other that Dee Bradley Baker himself There were also technicians and other roles that they filled / kept.

[@ryanangelastro504]

@@ArchVile98but DBB didn’t put on an accent when he voiced a stormtrooper.

[@thebrittaniondragon6183]

In legends/expanded lore the 501ST (Vaders Fist) was made up of Primary of clones, survivors of the clone wars but since most of the 501st was on the first death star they where replaced with Storm troopers

[@scottedge4388]

Classic, classic Palpatine. Throws Rampart under the bus and then is still able to twist things around and get what he wanted anyway.

[@GenerationTech]

It's time for a house of cards style political thriller, set in the last years of the republic, featuring a young senator known for his political organizing skills don't you think?

[@DMSProduktions]

Star Wars, eps 1,2 & 3???

[@pyeitme508]

Yep

[@packetloss9931]

Rise of Palpatine

[@DMSProduktions]

@@packetloss9931 Umm, Rise Of The Sith covered that!

[@thunderfreeze1544]

House of Bonteri

[@HolyknightVader999]

I'm pretty sure Rampart knew how to be a soldier. His recruits for that elite squad did their job well against insurgents trained by clones and Jedi, despite being outnumbered. It's just that he was too much of a grunt to not realize that he could be sacked. They warned him that they would throw him under the bus if things fail, and they did.

[@HHopebringer]

He never got the warning that Dedra got in Andor that he couldn't climb too high. And ultimately? Rampart was expendable.

[@HolyknightVader999]

@@HHopebringer He did get that warning from Mas Amedda.

[@nightwing2032]

Palatine was playing 5d chess in episode 8. This man is a genius and he played them like fool right not his stormtroopers for his stormtrooper project. He did to the clones what he did to the Jedi. Made excuses for the public to distrust the Jedi and then got rid of them when he was done using them. Problem, reaction, and solution. Palatine creates the problem, the public reacts to it, and then he gives a solution for the public.he did the same to the cis leaders as well. Got rid of them when he was done using them and their use was over. I think palatine want them to expose when really happened.

[@user-Jay178]

Palpatine really got what he wanted in the end and made a fool out of everyone. Love your content

[@twistedyogert]

Isn't that why Sith never really win? They're never content with what they have so they gobble up as much as possible but once they have everything they've ever wanted they are killed by one of their followers. That's no way to live. Always in fear of losing one's head.

[@fornax5798]

@@twistedyogert Dooku called. Doesn't appreciate your appropriation of the idiom.

[@andrewlyon4495]

In the end, didn't his granddaughter fry him with his own lightning for the third time?

[@ashlati4616]

And the clones got a pension, which was wizard for them

[@IsaiahRichards692]

I call BS on every other explanation!; Palpatine destroyed Kamino for one reason and one reason only!: The Kaminoans were acting under Dooku’s orders! They knew the Separatist leader created the Clones of the GAR and it created a paper trail that could lead people to wonder where the Clones came from! This trail led to the conspiracy Palpatine started to manufacture the Clone War and increase his own power! It was a small risk but the Kaminoans were a loose end that had to be dealt with. Destroying Tipoca City would destroy the cloning facilities so Palpatine chose to conscript the masses, cutting costs and severing the connection between the Clones and Dooku.

[@bursegsardaukar]

Palpatine merely enacted Plan B. You throw them the small fish so they don't go after the big one. To him, everybody is an expendable pawn including Darth Vader.

[@seb2750]

The blue guy warned him a couple of times he is gonna walk the plank if things went to shit.

[@doktorsmiles2034]

Vader was his primary goal. Vader was the reason he went to the extremes he did. Thats why maul wanted to kill anakin. If he dies anything sidious has done was for nothing.

[@bursegsardaukar]

@@doktorsmiles2034 Except he wanted to sacrifice Vader (like Dooku) so he can turn Luke to his side.

[@ydontubegray]

@@bursegsardaukar well because luke didnt lose his limbs like vader and luke is the new hype. Unless vader destroyed sidious

[@ladyriethegoldendelmo5441]

@@bursegsardaukar which backfired lmao. if he left vader for death at lava planet. he would had won. I mean lets be honest? who would have the str to beat palp? no one lol

[@acgearsandarms1343]

Correct me if I’m wrong but didn’t the record on the Venator get erased, and Cade or Slip(I forget which) made a secret backup of it? So wouldn’t it be reasonable to have Rampart assume it was all fine? So it wasn’t exactly a mistake on his part since he ensured to have scrubbed the records, just not knowing someone else made a backup.

[@ANT12TNTFIN]

I like thinking that Rampart did removed records from his ship, and diddin't think some clone leaving backups.

[@kenle2]

That's true. Cade made the copy in a backup file and told Slip about it, who told Chuchi, who told Rex, who told the Batch. Still, Rampart was emotionally tone-deaf for not realizing a LOT of the clones would have problems with blowing up their own homewold and wiping out most of the Kaminoan race. Even if the Kaminoans were collectively kind of abusive "parents", they were still the clones' creators and provided all their care in childhood.

[@skyden24195]

You are correct, ACGearsandArms. I came down looking through comments as I was sure I wasn't the only one who realized this error was made.

[@skyden24195]

@@kenle2 ...who told Rex, who told Batch, who told Organa, who told Chuchi (again) who told the senate... lol.

[@rexlumontad5644]

1:28 In EU Legends, Cody remained loyal to the Empire and was the trainer of Stormtroopers whom he bitterly sees them as disgraces to the legacy of the Clone Army.

[@djcody492]

Cody Defecating is something I can’t get out of my head now lol

[@DMSProduktions]

Well he DOES eat...

[@crabmankiosk000]

Echo leaving the bad batch is something that probably needed to happen but i still cried like a baby realizing what happened

[@Svnfold]

He said he's going back to them later....though

[@FATE522]

The catalyst of manipulation is the truth and Palpatine utilizes this to his advantage above everyone.

[@curssorrydevotee2738]

Rampart did remove the recordings. If you watch when the clones are talking before he's executed he said he backed up the log.

[@Embo_Marrok]

I loved watching him take the fall for Pappa Palps! 🤣🤣🤣

[@williamheath7058]

I feel that palpatine never underestimates any being or thing like droids he just puts himself so high above them that he doesn't care, but he always knows that they could do unimaginable thing

[@demonicaxeman7264]

I'm was very surprised we got to see an Imperial Senate and the Emperor in this series. The political situations in Star Wars has always been fascinating to me and I credit The Phantom Menace for opening up that arena.

[@colbey007]

Realistically, the ramifications on actions/betrayal of Palapatine against/towards Rampart would either be a tale of caution or disillusionment for other aspiring officers. Can't see how anyone can trust the emperor or senior leadership anymore.

[@tcp3059]

One of those scenes that reminds you that Palatine is beyond evil. Just a complete, irredeemable bastard.

[@scoutdynamics3272]

Another example of this was the Iraqi prisoner torture scandal. Only this time, the very senior people who ordered the torture were acting surprised and outraged when the scandal came to light

[@Krisb193]

To clarify, he DID remove the files from the ships MAIN drive. But the clone wisleblower CT-0409 Made a backup of the files onto the Second drive.

[@limxuanyi5398]

Who else got chills when palpatine appeared

[@JXVL3002]

He walked in like a total boss, used the Uno Reverse Card on everyone, made clear he was getting his stormtroopers wether we want it or not and left refusing to elaborate further because he does not answer to us but viceversa. A. Complete. Gigachad.

[@xertris]

In legends, a clone rebellion happened. Some of Kaminos cloning facilities started production on an anti-imperial clone army. By the time the Empire arrived to stop production, they had at least a division ready to go. In canon, Rampart, and by extension Palpatine destroyed this possibility by wiping kamino off the map (metaphorically).

[@lopoa126]

Surprised the Empire didn't just agree to "give the clones a place to live and retire" while secretly turning them into SW Soylent Green.

[@WillowsPeak77]

With Soylent Red and Yellow coming to your stores galactic-wide. Soylent Green is an underrated gem of mine 😂😂😂.

[@josephticuswar4008]

Actually, the empire did have a program for clones who couldn't fight anymore dou to great physical injuries that couldnt be healed but unfortunately they were never managed and they had to take care of themselves.. Clones who still could fight were by then few in numbers and wound up dying out in the early years of the empire against insurgents and rebels who refuse imperial rule and left over seperatists factions that reactivated left over droids.. Any clone left in service in the empire were repositioned at bases to desk or drill Sargeant duty in training non clone recrutes that were deemed incompetent by war experience clones

[@markmorales7958]

A possible Clone Rebellion, like that one Campaign Mission in the Original Battlefront 2 game where the Empire hires Boba Fett to help put down the newly made clones for talking arms against them. But this time, Kamino is no more…

[@restoredephraimpublication1540]

I really enjoyed ep 7+8 I couldn't help but laugh at the brilliance of the ending reveal of the plan.

[@GuntherRommel]

I picture Robot Chicken Palpatine listening to Chuchi's speech, deciding that "I can work with this!" and then pushing the button to go up. "Gotta get your game face on, Palpatine."

[@greyclaa]

Such a powerful scene.. thanks for breaking it down!

[@Rambam1776]

I've been following your content for a couple of years now, and I think I've seen just about all of your back catalogue. This is the best Star Wars channel on KZbin. Your style and presentation is excellent. Thanks for the content.

[@firetools]

I've only been watching Generation Tech's videos lately and he has this unique spin on exploring the inner workings of the Star Wars universe. I can't put my finger on it, like it's not just a lore channel and that is what makes him feel very unique and fresh.

[@SargeJim]

Allen obviously focuses on star wars but his videos always try to be more than mere lore. He brings up real life parallels or points out the underlying message of the media on display

[@ImInSpainWithoutTheS]

@@firetools i would say his videos are more technical than any other channel and links real world events and things to the star wars galaxy

[@ultrabrian8151]

Many of the loyal clones became stormtroopers.

[@thankskanye1521]

Yeah some people ain’t really getting that

[@ladyriethegoldendelmo5441]

and funny thing is. some people think imperials more loyal than clones? but really imperials betray the empire more often than clones lol

[@yankovic100]

To be fair to Rampart the recordings of his ship destroying the city were actually back ups created by Slip implying that the original recordings were actually deleted and that Rampart had no idea there were even recordings on the ship which also explains why he wasn’t guarding it more closely

[@yankovic100]

Rampart was dumb but he wasn’t a complete idiot to leave evidence against himself

[@JustinKase1969]

The impression I got was that a backup copy of the event was made by Slip, one that Rampart did not know about.

[@SorenDaein]

Slip AND Cade were behind the backup copy. Not that it did much good since Palpatine was ahead of everyone else.

[@williamheath7058]

Rampart got played so hard is funny he really thought that the rest of the empire above him wouldn't decieve him as much as he deceives the clones (who aren't exactly stupid)

[@dreadwing01]

I loved how Palpatine made his intro. As always one hell of a video. Yes he got played by the master sith himself.

[@sbkeel5639]

Palpatine really knew the perfect Jedi to goad into attacking him too. Mace Windu also was a failure at following the Jedi code (flawed as it was before EU Luke Skywalker reformed it) because Mace Windu loved the Republic. So when he found out that the Republic he so believed in was being controlled by the Sith his most hated enemy he was so blinded he didn't pause to consider the consequences of his actions and how he and his fellow Jedi could be branded as traitors no matter whether the arrest or assassination of Palpatine succeeded or not. In fact I think even if Mace managed to kill Palpatine at least himself and maybe the entire order might still have been branded as criminals because Mace wasn't patient enough to gather evidence of Palpatine's crimes and create the environment where the Senate and the public would be willing to listen and accept such evidence... Total failure and Yoda's wisdom also failed. I guess they needed a few more politically wise Jedi at the top of the Council or at least closely advising them!

[@jake2011rt]

That’s the trouble with any sort of formalized church&state mixture like the Republic had. The Jedi would have been excellent in a purely advisory role in politics and as volunteer units in the military, but integrating them into both as leaders led to a bad situation for the order and the Republic. The government and military were hamstrung by Jedi incompetence as commanders and politicians, and the Jedi were corrupted by the power and influence granted to them.

[@doktorsmiles2034]

I wonder Many ppl made theories about other ends of order 66 But how would star wars look if order 66 had never happened? If sidious never revealed himself to Anakin, is anakin died or mace and the others never openly confronted sidious and instead chose anotger approach like Order 65 or something like that. Would be interesting

[@spider-boy5498]

That's a pretty strong argument there. Palpatine was patient, learning which buttons to press to make Jedi look like traitors and then PUFF He's The Emperor of The Galactic Empire ( correctly Sith Empire) Jedi's called traitors, Anakin became Darth Vader and he's at the top.

[@Gundam4]

You also forget that Windu was too tunnel vision to see what was really going on. He and Yoda were far too close minded and too focused on winning the war. His arrogance was his undoing

[@Tippotipo]

That is an excellent points. Palpatine easily took advantage of Jedi Council own stupidities and arrogance meaning Order 66 would still happen without Anakin. The latter was a case of Jedi Order giving a gift to Palpatine on a silver plate without realizing it. Windu own jealousy toward Anakin in term of popularity for the Republic and his blind love of Republic to get recognition was his own demise. Some people thinking Jedi Council killing Palpatine would somewhat stop Sith plan were naive forgetting that Jedi Order were seen in a bad light for a while and someone else would summon Order 66 like Palpatine personal bodyguard.

[@MrSteveK1138]

Enter the Puppet Master, the true ruler of The Empire.

[@brettstarks1846]

Honestly, I don’t mind the filler episodes, because it’s always cool to see the Star Wars universe more fully explored. I think the Bad Batch does a good job of vacillating between adventure and politics.

[@njboredtodeath]

Oh no, Rampart is probably dead. Too much of a liability to leave alive. Cut out his tongue, then public execution. Looks good for Palps

[@doktorsmiles2034]

True Star wars is possibly the (lorewise in scale) biggest Franchise ever. Let us see more then the episodes. Give us random planets with their intriguing cultures and phantastic star warsy landscapes.

[@Bumbledrop]

@@doktorsmiles2034 I would say that TES has more extensive lore, but I agree, we need more cultures and planets explored in screen. A good example of this is Ferrix from Andor

[@highlander723]

You know I wonder what would have happened if rampart saw that the emperor was going to betray him. Can you imagine if after the senator accuses him He confesses. And then he says that he was under direct orders from emperor palpatine to destroy the cities. I would have loved to have seen how palpatine weasels his way out of that one

[@MandalorV7]

Would have all been verbal with no recordings. Palaptine would have called it lies. End of story.

[@raveshaw6161]

You could pin it on Tarkin at best, but even this is a longshot. in the Tarkin Novel Count Dooku and a Rebel Group of former Republic Intelligence Agents used doctored Holo Footages to broadcast Propaganda, this would have been easily cast aside as Rumors, an Investigation would have been launched by Palpatine which would ofcourse only leads to a Conspiracy lead by Rampart. Nothing was gained by accusations, just because they were the truth.

[@highlander723]

@@MandalorV7 Don't get me wrong I know it would not remove palpatine by any means. I was just curious as to what political move he would do to get what he wanted.

[@berniethekiwidragon4382]

Rampant was a useful idiot, to be discarded when it was convenient. It's not an accident that he was put in the position he was in.

[@starflameroyale]

honestly the rise of some officers like rampart didnt feel like they'd earned it, it kinda just felt like someone put him there to do a couple specific things

[@AKUNJIG]

As I'm happy that Rampart is getting what's coming to him, it's sad that the Clones still are not getting anything out of it. I'm glad that Senator Chuchi got involved in Representing them, but as Democracy falls the Clones will never get the Help they need.

[@FordLancer]

This could also be a way to silence rampart without using an assassin. The clones will blame rampart for involving them and getting them cast out of the empire. Palpatine can play it up further as “The clones are starting to become unstable and therefore unfit”

[@scoutdynamics3272]

In the military, this is referred to as being a "Blue Falcon"

[@jamiepomeroy3687]

Yes he did

[@myleswelnetz6700]

“Rampart got played”. All of them did.

[@orckingi1208]

I have played the Star Wars: The Old Republic game and watched others play it and I have never seen any Sith be just as deceiving or better than Palpatine. He really is the ultimate Sith Lord.

[@rowdsterrex7845]

I really like that we are seeing more of the Republic political situation post war.

[@nxcrobutcher]

i could watch a whole series just about star wars politics, definitely one of my favourite episodes this season

[@theliato3809]

It’s interesting to see this more princapate emperor palpatine since this is still the early days of the new order

[@Ryan-vl2nn]

It’s just so eerie how empty the Senate hall is during the reveal of Rampart’s actions upon the Clone’s home world.

[@seb2750]

In the Military, there are 2 types of officers: rank and file line officers, and career high flyers who serve as staff officers. Rampart is the latter, a paper general marked for fast track advancement. They are usually very arrogant and insufferable too sure of themselves. Those who served in the military would have known and seen his type around.

[@HolyknightVader999]

Actually, having clones and recruits fight together was how the Empire did things in the old canon. The 501st Legion and other clone units worked together with recruits, whom they called "new meat". Even up to the Battle of Endor, around a quarter of all Stormtroopers were Fett clones, and some of them were left over from the Clone Wars. It was a logical form of tyranny that in another time, would've been seen as business as usual. The new canon is written by people who despise the Empire, and so, from Operation Cinder to the disposal of Clone Troopers, they're just made to be evil for evil's sake.

[@miguellopes7627]

Rampart did wipe the records from his ship but one of the clones made a backup before that. Also I was kinda surprised how palpatine took Rampart's bill and made it as his own idea without much change.

[@berkaltuglu8140]

You have been hit by you have been struck by unsmooth emperor.

[@Southern_Crusader]

That episode actually had me jumping off my couch. It’s been so long since we had such a good story line in anything.

[@ImmaLittlePip]

He learned the hard way that there's only one king and the rest are pawns honestly he had it coming tbh it was a bitter sweet comeuppance to Rampart

[@kristopherblyth2200]

I got the chills as soon as he rose up till he finished what he had to say. By far my favorite part of the series so far had to rewatch it a couple times, sorry Bad Batch team!

[@akotarakz]

Palpatine shows up for one episode and casually reminds everyone that he is the GOAT.

[@theoriginalfloatingrumshack]

I’ve not long finished listening to the Darth Plagueis audio book - and wow - so much more depth to Palpatine. I know it’s not canon, but it’s such a fab resource

[@Bucketroo]

Man, the Bad Batch goes HARD! Episode 3 was something, but 7 and 8 are on a totally different level! I was on the edge of my seat the whole time! And then Palpatine showed up! Holy crap! O_O What an evil genius! Throwing Rampart under the bus and spinning it in his favor! Bravo!

[@SorenDaein]

Noticed the thumbnail says "Rampart got played". THAT is an understatement. Palpatine was already intent on replacing the clones. He just needed an excuse to do it. Rampart delivered it on a silver platter with that dumbass move of destroying Tipoca City. Only setback as far as Palpatine was concerned was the loss of the cloning facilities. He probably had plans to neutralize those who were aware of the clones' Inhibitor Chips and Order 66 to cover his ass, but Rampart, and by extension Tarkin, spared him the trouble. Losing that infrastructure was a small price to pay to tie up loose ends.

[@Thurnmourer]

Was hoping the request from Rex was related to Cody, but, no, for the moment, it seems like Cody was just thrown aside.

[@khandimahn9687]

This were an intense ending to the first half of the season. There's no question we are coming to a Clone uprising, or a purge before the uprising gets going. And once again we learn Palpatine was two steps ahead, ready to take advantage of the situation no matter which way things went.

[@Okada_Caelun]

I always liked the idea that Palpatine, rather than twenty moves ahead of everyone else, was rather more of a master of taking advantage of any situation. Like, he would have been fine if the CIS won the Clone Wars, and may have even favored their victory over the Republic, but was more than prepared with a hundred backup-plans in case any single thing went wrong. That rather than Order 66 and one hundred forty nine red herrings, Palpatine had a specific contingency in mind for EVERY order written on the biochips. Who is to say that the upcoming clone rebellion won't be dealt with in such a simple fashion as "Order 72". This does mean that Order 66, as it happened, was a panic-move rather than a master-stroke. Perhaps he hadn't expected Anakin to tattle on him to Mace Windu, and now that he had five Jedi masters dead with their last known location being Coruscant, being delicate was no longer an option.

[@rhob2422]

Ive had a bad feeling for a long time that something terrible is going to happen to most of the clones, perhaps as a result of a large scale revolt.

[@Ghost-lz2yr]

outplayed

[@jonathonspears7736]

Both of three episodes were fantastic

[@kdavidsmith1]

It really would make way more sense for the Clones to be made Senior NCOs, Officers etc and used to train and lead the Imperial military. On the other hand, I'm surprised that Palps isn't just tossing the clones into battle after battle to whittle them down so he doesn't have to worry about their retirement.

[@rexlumontad5644]

Palpatine playing 6D chess: "All according to keikaku."

[@Cholotronbm]

The thumbnail makes it look like Palpatine is getting his way with rampart

[@andrewlim9345]

I think Rampart learnt the hard way that if you live by deception, you will fall by deception. Him stating that he was just following orders reminds me of the Nuremberg defence that many German officials and soldiers invoked when tried for war crimes during WW2. I like the idea of Palpatine manufacturing consent by creating the necessary conditions. Would be interesting if someone analysed his political career using Herman and Chomsky’s Manufacturing Consent model.

[@rexlumontad5644]

*thumbnail* Rampart: "I need an adult." Palpatine: "No, I am The Senate!"

[@momaw_C1-10P]

The complaints of "filler" come from people being trained on 10 episode seasons that all focus on the story arc. They then complain about a lack of character development and Mary/Gary Sue's. In the past, most of the character building came from so called "filler" episodes, so when you got to the main event you actually cared about the characters, they felt fully formed, and their decisions and actions had weight and ramifications. Tech has benefited greatly from these "filler" episodes . For example, we saw him put his Riot Racing skills to the test this week with the escape pod, um, escape. The "filler" episodes laid the ground work for Echo's eventual decision. And we have seen Omega's outlook on life evolving through them. Bring on the "filler" episodes I say. They truly enrich the characters and the overall story

[@supercoolguy43]

i gotta say, I disagree when it comes to the loyalty question. ES-01 had a realistic reason to be loyal to the Empire over the Republic and is exactly the kind of reason a ton of guys join the military for. Loyalty isn't just blind belief in dogma like Rampart has, but also mundane reasons like security and providing for oneself or one's family. Also, all I'm saying is we haven't seen any of these humans defect just yet.

[@nickgerald4359]

I couldn’t help but realize that in this episode, Palpatine is the most frightening he’s ever been. In the movies he has the big dark hood to cover his face, or chunky looking makeup. But when he comes out onto the senate floor here, with the music playing, and the way he talks, he felt powerful and it made me genuinely uneasy. That is why animation is so great in my eyes.

[@Straswa]

Great work GenTech.

[@marcusmartinez7855]

GREAT assessment well done!

[@WarmouC]

Learned a lot from this video + summed as played victoria 3. Create the need.

[@phrixos2826]

As usual, you do a fantastic job of analysing the world of star wars. I GREATLY enjoy your video's. Please keep up the great work. I stand with you!

[@debbralehrman5957]

Thank you Alan for a very insightful video. 👍🏻👏🏻👏🏻

[@DevelopmentRobco]

All things considered, Palpatines answer to the Senate as to why they need to get rid of the clones was very good. Yeah he had a hand in all of it, but from any regular citizen of the empire, the emperor's decision was very effective.

[@cameronmorris8105]

Rampart wouldn't have destroyed Kamino without the Empire's approval.

[@cebenify]

Palpatine picked Rampart because he knew he could manage a guy that acted like a young Palpatine

[@berniethekiwidragon4382]

Palpatine's schemes are often intricately designed, that any attempt to foil them only gives him a convenient excuse to implement them. We've seen him do this during the Clone Wars, not only destroying any chance of a truce with the Confederacy, but reinforcing the resolve on both sides to continue fighting.

[@FanksCast]

This was way more palpatine than that joke in episode 9.

[@karolromanski6192]

Lampart porbably delete command logs from all ships. But Slip made a copy of it on the ship's backup data banks.

[@spectreshadow]

I just love Palpatine so much.

[@scoutdynamics3272]

I have experienced this personally albeit on a much smaller scale. I was relieved of duty as a Recruit Company Commander (Navy version of a Drill Instructor) For being too harsh on my recruits. Now, I will admit that there were instances where I did go "R Lee Earmy" On a recruit but these never came to light. They were extreme reactions to extreme situations ("I'm with the crips! Mess with me and I will have your family killed!" In front of my entire company! So yes, I did "Go full R Lee Earmy" in that case but it never made it on the record) What did happen was a review board acted surprised and outraged over too many push ups here, too many sit-ups there, running them a little too fast here. People I had personally witnessed exceeded my most radical actions several times over AND for trivial reasons to boot! So yes, this action of Palapatine has some demonstration on what happens in the real world

[@Gundam4]

Rampart was just a cog to be cast aside

[@Groundrunner100]

Rampart got played like a set of spoons.