This Was Indonesia’s Worst Air Crash| The Crash Of Garuda Indonesia 152

[@SomeGuyFromOK]

I don’t even know half the lingo when it comes to aviation, but when I listen to these it all makes perfect sense. Shows how good of a storyteller you are.

[@sailaab]

indeed🙂 for mini capzules of 8-16 minutes... him and kzbin.info/door/AHoOAB6wy04LvRW2vLffBQ are amongst the 👌🏽

[@Syclone0044]

@@sailaab thanks I’ve never heard of Disaster Breakdown, I will give them a try. Don’t miss Avinations, one of the best produced flight sim illustrated recreations of crashes I have found. In general, Fascinating Horror is my favorite channel covering general disasters and tragedies. Plainly Difficult is a great unique one that covers a large number of nuclear ☢️ accidents, but also engineering failures like large dam collapses, etc. PD has quite a unique illustrated art & humor style.

[@halojump123]

He is good. He sold the same car 4 times to 3 different people last week.

[@leebee1100]

@@Syclone0044 absolutely love fascinating horror too. We obviously share a morbid fascination for disasters. I have no idea why it is so engaging for me but this and fascinating horror are definitely my favorite disaster channels. Actually, brick immortar (I spelled that wrong and can’t remember how to spell it right) is an up and coming disaster channel and it’s pretty good when it comes to detailing structural disasters.

[@mauricedavis8261]

He is really good at explaining things in layman's terms and with visualization, his channel is one of my go too for sure!!!🙏👍😷

[@BS-oi7ts]

I remember this well. I was working in Medan at the time. It was very smoky due to all of the slash and burn practices within the region. I was expecting my co-worker to arrive on this flight. When he was a no show, I called the airport and found out what had happened. I went to the site. Since my coworker was from Australia and I was the only one in the are who could recognize him, I was given authorization to search for him from the Australian government. I spent the next 3 days searching either at the crash site or looking through the bodies at Adam Malik hospital where the victims were taken. What I saw was horrific. I will never forget it.

[@rahmatramadhan9874]

My sincerest condolences.

[@vixen4327]

Oh my goodness 😥

[@Syclone0044]

Omg wow 😲 I never really thought about this but suddenly I understand what they mean when they talk about next of kin having “to go to the morgue and identify the body”. I don’t think it would be appropriate for me to ask you in this case, but I wish I knew someone I could ask (perhaps a career professional who’s been desensitized) what it’s actually like, I mean are you looking at victims untouched still in their final resting position? Do they attempt to clean the corpses up similar to what a mortician does to prepare for a funeral presentation? I mean are you literally seeing the same thing an ER doctor would see if the victim were rushed into the hospital moments ago? Bc that would be kind of shocking to me if they didn’t do more to “soften the blow” before the next of kin are invited to identify the bodies. Is there a term for this I can use to search on google or Wikipedia to learn more about it. Again, I don’t want to press you for details as it sounds like a traumatic experience I am sure.

[@fireincarnation2]

"Ask a Mortician" channel here o youtube would know.

[@CaptSkidmark]

@@Syclone0044 In a CFIT situation such as this, you will seldom see intact corpses. I could go into more detail, but out of respect for the channel owner, I'll hold off on that. As a first responder, I attended many air crashes over the 27 years that I plied my trade. One of the early ones was the CFIT of legendary Hollywood stunt pilot Frank Tallman into a lower ridge of Santiago Peak in Southern California.

[@Root3264]

The way you incorporate technical details with captivating storytelling makes me come back over and over again!

[@jonmobrien]

That's what she said

[@icecat2025]

ATC: turn right Pilot: your right? Or my right? ATC: hahaha Pilots: hahaha Mountain: hahaha

[@anirudh9059]

That escalated quickly

[@fsg7710]

Lol

[@icecat2025]

@@anirudh9059 Oh, if it only escalated quicker lol

[@Docstantinople]

He who laughs first, laughs first, laughs last.

[@justsomeguywithablackhat138]

i swear i saw this comment on another channel

[@jhall9209]

The amount of detail and information you give is amazing, not to mention the quality of the videos that you bring out. Can’t wait to see your channel grow in the future

[@flyingpegasus1349]

Well as Indonesian citizen I can tell you several things about state of aviation in Indonesia. 1. For full service airlines. That I know so far good is garuda Indonesia. Yeah unlike when it's in the dark ages (1990 - 2010), They pretty safe and since 2007 no fatal accident happened to this airlines (hopefully not) and services wise, very good. I have been traveled this airlines for sometimes but unfortunately the ticket isn't cheap (no shit) so this perhaps not the most frequent one. 2. For low cost carrier, unfortunately our reputation pretty hit and miss. So far in span of a decade, there are three fatal accident and current one sadly only last month and still ongoing investigation. One particular airlines is certain airlines that pretty has pretty bad reputation even among Indonesian. Aside from the accident that occurred because of mcas system failure, it has plenty of accident occurred. Unfortunately as inner nervous flyer feeling still pounds hard every time i need to fly with these airlines Btw I'm new subscriber to Your channel and Your content very solid and on par with TV documentary (my favourite is the BA09 documentary). Also I'm pretty av geek and follow several aviation youtuber mostly simply flying and Swiss001.

[@TheAviationGuyID]

Hi fellow indonesian swiss001 fan

[@hollies5841]

You have so much credibility - the sheer amount of research you must do for these videos is impressive to say the least. Another great upload!

[@Syclone0044]

I was thinking the exact same thing yesterday - not only are these great videos of significant length, now with both animations as well as narrated storylines, but they’re literally investigations! This guy must be working relentlessly to produce each of these, having to familiarize himself with all the elements of each crash and the various perspectives and reports and conclusions in order to decide upon a coherent story to present to his viewers. I don’t know how he does it. I could not possibly make one of these videos in less than 8-12 hours, perhaps much longer, yet he cranks them out more than 1 a week.

[@karabinjr]

he reads from the ntsb report. no additional research is required

[@davedenham8697]

You must be joking, total rubbish talked mostly, narrator understands nothing

[@SirPlayer]

I love mini air crash investigations

[@tomascarvalho3541]

The question is... Who doesn't love?

[@baked921]

Me too!

[@maruftim]

though, I'd like to not have any crashes at all

[@rilmar2137]

Why were there so few controllers to begin with? My guess would be cost cutting. The thing with safety is, what you save in money, you eventually pay with blood. And this is not only the case in aviation.

[@chadcuckproducer1037]

Blood is cheap in that area of the world. Blood for the flight control god!

[@greenkerbal632]

Like space exploration

[@hwinangkoso]

it's a small airport, no point having so many controllers

[@2sdd]

from 3000 ppl applying for atc school 300 gets through. from these 300 ppl only 0.7 will finish the school and become ATC. it's not so easy to find competent workers for this job. you can try yourself, i was very surprised when i managed to pass all the tests.

[@oldbatwit5102]

Your 'guess would be cost cutting'? Any proof? Any facts? Any history? You might as well blame aliens.

[@yfice5148]

I only heard this accident because of miscommunication between the pilot and the ATC. Now I know what really happened. Thank you for a great video. I worked for an airline around year 2000, I can say the maintanence was poor at that time but I hope is better now.

[@Titot182]

The captain of this flight was my cousin's neighbour in Jakarta. I remembered her telling the news to us. I remember the summer of 97 being pretty bad because of the il nino weather system and the fact that slash and burn was happening at that time. The weather conditions contributed to the situation, no doubt. Although I can attest that the flight safety record for Garuda has increased significantly since the events of GA152 and GA200. My cousin's husband is a F/O on their A330's currently.

[@LeonelEBD]

I've seen how ur aviation grows exponentially in the last years. Guess this kind of problems get solved

[@Titot182]

@@LeonelEBD a lot of the approaches are quite complicated due to terrain and prevailing weather conditions. It's also compounded by the fact that demand for pilots are so high, you combine less experienced pilots with the pressures of demanding flight schedules, it will be a new problem arising... The Indonesian culture is to get the job done and keep your schedule (ironically, Indonesians are known for their attocious time keeping) GA200 was noted for this being a factor.

[@Syclone0044]

@@Titot182 Are all the “mountains” in Indonesia 🇮🇩 essentially volcanos 🌋, technically speaking? Or just a few?

[@Titot182]

@@Syclone0044 The majority of the prominent ones tend to be. With most of the major flight paths going between the islands of Java (Singapore notwithstanding from JKT), Sumatra, Bali and Sulawesi, you're bound to overfly them . That said, you've got to factor in the prevailing winds too. The airspace north of Java tends to be pretty shocking.

[@No-is2cj]

I'd say how this is an amazingly constructed video, but that's to be expected from this channel, nothing but quality, informative content

[@TheLukaszpg]

My wife is from Indonesia and we have flown there many times including Lion Air and Wings Air. Feels pretty normal on the plane, the service is good and the food is not too bad. Their safety record is not the best but the flights feel 'normal' :)

[@valleyresident]

cannot imagine how stressful and confusing their last moments must have been

[@ChadDidNothingWrong]

You can tell he was already stressed for a few minutes leading up as well; hence the capitain asking for some AC....he really musr have wanted it if he was sneding the first officer away for it! Almost like he subconciously felt the danger, but hadnt fully realized it yet.

[@Syclone0044]

@@ChadDidNothingWrong I just can’t understand why would any pilot concern himself with A/C during final descent at 3500 ft, much less send your first officer out of his seat?!? I have never flown a plane but I’ve raced automobiles and I assume it’s similar; my focus becomes laser intense and things like physical comfort, fatigue, needing to urinate etc all get completely tuned out as the adrenaline commands your body to focusing on the life-or-death intense activity you’re engaged with. It’s not until 15-30 minutes after the race or even 4+ hours, that suddenly it all hits you and you realize just how exhausted you are etc. What am I missing?

[@topherd1011]

The visibility was WELL below minimum standards. Had they called the flight off instead of acting all big and bad with the “I can fly in anything” attitude.. these folks would be breathing today. Same situation as Kobe.

[@PsychoKat90]

Too few controllers never ends well... That tragic plane collision over Uberlingen comes to mind. :(

[@michaelshea5165]

As Paul Simon sang years ago, "A man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest." The technical language used in aviation is designed to follow specific sequences using keys word to minimize extraneous conversation. The downside is when what is said conflicts with what the listener expects to hear. When expectation overrides reality, outcomes may be fatal.

[@Milesco]

Yeah, once you have a mental picture of something, it's _very_ hard to discard that. If you hear something that conflicts with that mental picture, your brain will tend to discard the "erroneous " information and stick with that preconceived mental image that it believes to be correct.

[@saritar1000]

I'm currently living in Indonesia, haven't lived here for long tho, just about 2 years. And aviation has taken a major hit lately here. There was a crash not long ago if you've heard. It was a Sriwijaya Air.

[@vailingsiren]

They say it was caused by an auto throttle glitch that caused the left engine power to drop while the right engine stayed at the same throttle. They have not recovered the CVR data chip.

[@oakld]

@@vailingsiren Yes, but that would be more of a factor. If this was the case, as it seems, the cause would be that pilots failed to control the plane. The autothrothle and possibly some organizational flaws would be factors or contributing causes.

[@chris1451]

I spent 2 weeks in Bandung training their Air Force how to work on C-130 propeller systems. Very nice people. But they are not technical people. I would NEVER fly on a Indonesian plane. They crash way to much.

[@suryatejas3013]

@@chris1451 Are you in the Air Force?

[@chris1451]

@@suryatejas3013 No. I worked for a Propeller overhaul shop that was training the Indonesian Air Force.

[@RonSeymour1]

As always, an excellent production.

[@GROOVYJOJO]

Thanku you im hooked on your mini crash series and appreciate your time and research✈✈✈🛫🛫🛬🛬

[@Rincypoopoo]

Liked and subscribed long ago. You really are a star. Just about all air accident "programs are dramatic and full of harrowing scenes of terrified people. Which really helps to subdue a fear of flying right ? An hour of drama and five minutes of facts. You with your pleasant calm voice provide clear technical information at just the right level of detail. This leaves one feeling informed and happy that these thorough investigations make flying safer all the time. As a sometimes pilot and aviation enthusiast I am always frustrated that mainstream news services never follow up with the results of an investigation after lavishly reporting the accident. You have solved that problem ! Thanks for working hard and making the best air indecent channel in the media world. Cheers mate !

[@vahvahdisco]

The best air indecent channel ? I think you mean incident ?! The way you put it makes it sound like all the air stewards are topless ! Lol

[@aswandanawawan]

My grandma should've been on that plane, but somehow her friend ask her to stay in Medan while she will replace my grandma to attend a seminar at Jakarta 3 days before the crash, may you rest in peace tante Endang.

[@leebee1100]

I’m really proud of you man! I’ve been watching your channel from the very beginning. You’ve obviously focused on and made huge strides in your public speaking, enunciations, and accurately presenting information in a digestible way. You were already good at those things in the beginning (you’re obviously a naturally talented human), but you’re on another level now. Congratulations! Your recent content is now on the level of a professional. Your content is addicting and engaging and I rewatch ur videos constantly. Keep it up! We appreciate your talent

[@sailaab]

aside of the GPWS failure, it is not in the least reassuring that even the final recommendations from KNKT, Komite Nasional Keselamatan Transportasi... were not heeded to by the airport.. up until it was replaced in 2013 or so by a more modern one. The vertical spacial awareness of the crew, the pissible unfamiliarity with the analog controls and obvioysly the overworked ATC / understaffed tower operations all colluded into a lethal mix

[@ryanfrisby7389]

Awesome video mate! To answer the question you had at the end, British trip reporter Paul Lucas has flown on Malindo, CitiLink Indonesia, and Garuda Indonesia and has walked away impress all 3 times!😸

[@SheepWaveMeByeBye]

Trip reporters are paid influencers.

[@X1erra]

Indonesian here. Last time I flew was in August last year. I think they've learned a lot of lessons, heard of a major reform sometime in 2010s because of the wake up call by Adam Air incidents and international travel bans because of poor safety records, it's now much more safe even in the low cost carriers... albeit with some corrupt people in Garuda Indonesia recently.

[@nikkitronic80]

Thank you for your video! Something good to watch on a snowy morning in Seattle! Prayers to all involved in this accident.🙏❤️❄️

[@barkz2265]

Nikki Oliver What can prayers do

[@brucethecurmudgeon8538]

WTH? Turning right does not mean you turn left in my flight experience.

[@isilder]

The cpt heard turn left, and expected to turn left again. Other information seemed to confirm it. Despite being told to stay at 2000 ,. And look for ils to airport on right, he Cpt treated that as 2000 or below.. and its left.. he was aware of why 2000,and that it was consistent with being ready to land .. so he kept descending below the clouds to make things safer,he thought. He had thought he wasn't near the mountains. The other crew reminded cpt to be at 2000 ... If atc us worried about left vs right, better get back up to 2000... Too late

[@silavantalyn]

I've been on a Lion Air 737 Max 8 flying the opposite route in Nov 2018, about 10 days after the first Max crash. I've been researching air crashes for 10+ years so it felt really weird, but nobody really knew what had happened at the time. I actually got a chance to talk to the pilot afterwards and he told me that he was really confident in the plane. Well, in hindsight I guess we were lucky. People are super friendly in Indonesia, no doubt, but the battered economy and low fares don't boost confidence in safety being the highest priority for local carriers. Although that probably wasn't the main reason at least for the Max crash.

[@Shaneodell35]

Love the details you put into your reports. Very detailed. Thanks for your hard work.

[@hotsoup1001]

Love your videos and even if I've seen others cover the same accidents, it's good to hear another perspective.

[@samlasagna8730]

I’ve flown once on an Indonesian airline called Batik Air from Bali to KLIA and my experience on it was actually pretty good with kind staff and decent service and it’s sad that such a beautiful country’s aviation sector is going through such a rough time .

[@chootanf]

in terms of hospitality of our air crews, we're pretty much great.. the safety records of our nation's aviation, however.. 😬

[@Syclone0044]

@@chootanf Hey I always wanted to ask someone from Indonesia 🇮🇩: 1. How often does the average Indonesian witness a volcano eruption or any visible effects of one? (Even say, ash falling from a volcano 100km away.) 2. How legendary is the 1883 Krakatau eruption among locals there? 3. How do you regard the term “Krakatoa”? Is that commonly used, or is it like a common foreign error?

[@chootanf]

@@Syclone0044 quite out of context, but i will still answer those nevertheless: 1. depends on which island you reside.. if you live in Java, sulawesi, sumatra, north moluccas or the lesser sunda islands then you'll probably see an eruption in at least once a year or two year.. if you live in java then you'll probably get a major eruption in every 5-10 years. We're probably the nation with the most active volcano and certainly have more eruption than the U.S, but that doesnt mean everyone will get its effect.. people who lives in Borneo, Papua and parts of Sumatra never had any volcanic eruption 2. Legendary enough that the whole nation went crazy after its own "son" creates another tsunami wave? (google: 2018 sunda strait tsunami) heh tbh idk how legendary that eruption was since im not a local "local" (e.g local residents near Krakatoa), that being said I believe it was very traumatizing, but we Indonesians always believe that each volcanoes is sacred and each have their own powerful guardian, taboos and spiritual being that we should never bother 3. The common term in Indonesia is actually Krakatau, so we usually refer it as Krakatau. Krakatoa is more known by foreigners. We usually have no problem with that tho, u can choose both!

[@Syclone0044]

@@chootanf Wow, thank you very much for all this excellent information!! 😍🙌🏼 I will definitely look up the Sunda Strait 2018 tsunami. I am assuming that must have been caused by the December Anak Krakatau eruption 🌋 that essentially flattened that volcano. BTW your English is fantastic!! I meet a lot of ppl from around the world and among ppl speaking English as a 2nd language, yours is easily in the top 1%👌🏼

[@patrickflohe7427]

Batik is part of Lion Air, if I remember correctly. I came to know their resident rep at Boeing, fairly well. I worked on many Lion Air aircraft prior to delivery.

[@22vx]

Thank you for all the work you do and for continuing to share with the community ✈

[@zaq8205]

I love the no nonsense style .. subscribed

[@AL-so5tl]

I found it so puzzling why those pilots were so stuck with the standard approach path but ignored the fact that approach and departure ATC often give alternative routes

[@JoshuaC923]

Thanks for another great video👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

[@pawelwolski1316]

You asked, so here is look from the inside as I have been flying here for the past three years and Asia in general for last ten years. None of it is good , so if you don't like "bad" news don't read on. I am a training captain with 16k plus flight hours. I have always flown smaller airplanes, I like the adventure that this type of flying still brings and the fact that I am not surrounded by ever increasing automation of flying. I have had many jobs on most continents chasing my aviation dreams and adventures. For Indonesia you have to start with the overall cultural/mental and since this is a predominately Muslim country, the religious aspects or attitudes. This culture is very hierarchical, age, position held, family name, skin colour or race, the island you come from, money in the bank rule how people interact here. This creates a "closed" culture where no mistake or weakness can be perceived or shown. All this is present and clearly visible in aviation here as well. The idea of cockpit crew or for that matter cabin crew coordination, CRM, following well established and common sense rules to prevent accidents let alone work in a professional and rewarding environment do not exist at the systematic level. If you get lucky and get a good crew, yes you will be flown by safe and professional crew. This however is not the norm. To this day the captain is the king, the first officer is a scared, mostly silent, non decision making person occupying the right seat. As I fly for a smaller charter company in a specialised environment. I have five copilots that rotate on our contract. It has taken me over a year to get some of these guys to simply act as the pilot flying or pilot non flying (as we take turns). Same for understanding the roles and duties of a captain and first officer. One of very relevant skills to your video that I teach them is proper and effective radio communications. We fly out of an airport that is an ATC training facility, my guys at first are cool following the most ridicules ATC instructions, they are ok with non clear instructions as well. This is the culture, being confused, vectored into weather or terrain is fine by them. Again, it takes me a year or so to get them to think a bit, make decisions, question ATC when required or not accepting vectors into thunderstorms. Some rotate out to other contracts and fly with local captains, when they get back they are a mess again. I have been to the sim training with these local captains, it is horrible. Since our training is done in Canada, they all just want to go shopping. The lack of knowledge of our plane (just a Twin Otter) is appealing, CRM is non existing, acting as a crew, using me as a resource (when they are the flying pilot) is also non existing. So these guys are all over the sky in the sim, they crash or shut down wrong engines........Other training is done here, my company uses Sriwijaya as they are few buildings down. We do emergency training there, yes they do have an old 737 fuselage with a swimming pool attached.......Again, training is so poor, it is almost impossible to engage the cabin crew to do anything. It is bunch of giggles from the girls, they can't even speak loud enough the most basic instructions.......Then it's lunch time, pray time, selfie time.....The authorities here, not much better. It is a trip for them, nice lunch, visit to the resort that we fly to. Bit of cash changes hands, some extra fees.......Any and all attempts at helping my company, at improvement are always welcome on paper. In reality you are labelled black sheep, you are ignored or are pushed out. Yes all the proper posters are on the wall, yes it's all about safety, legality and for my company excellence. The reality is very different and very sad. To understand what is almost unimagible you have to understand the reality of Indonesia and Asia in general.

[@Syclone0044]

WOW what an enlightening and insightful comment!!!! 👀😲🇮🇩👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 I’d suggest adding a few paragraph breaks to make it easier to read but wow I really enjoyed this! Crazy and hard to believe but obviously I trust every word.

[@santiagomachado7378]

The recreations are getting better by the episode

[@ual737ret]

I,too,would like to compliment the maker of these videos. His explanations of the technical details of every event he talks about are first rate. Even folks who are not involved in aviation can understand most of what is going on in these tragic accidents.

[@karllung2649]

I was quite aware of this crash as I need to fly to Indonesia and need to take a domestic propeller flight in Borneo just about 2 week after this crash. May be I can add a few cents here: 1) Several people already mentioned the bush fire (intentional to clear the land) that created the smoke, but 1997 was particular bad year, and it seriously affected Singapore and Malaysia and it is long lasting. I think this is why the airport still operate even below the minimum. If they follow the original standard, this probably mean the airport will be closed for months. Remember Indonesia is mainly composed of islands and air transport is critical and a "must have" 2) The Asian Financial Crisis started in July 1997. Not sure if this has any contribution to the under staff/cost cutting at the ATC Regarding safety of flying in Indonesia (and many other countries as well), let's be realistic! Their per capita GDP is much lower than many other countries, which means that cost for safety (maintenance, training etc) would be a huge cost to them (which need to past to passengers) and have great impact on there people. It is not just flying, even cars are less well maintained and cost more accidents, just that car accidents won't be reported. There is always a painful trade off between cost and safety, even in countries like the US. It is just that they are more willing to trade safety for cost reason.

[@kellyhunte9668]

It's always about MONEY

[@DrSabot-A]

@@kellyhunte9668 Of course it's always about money, ESPECIALLY during a monetary crisis and depression. You are severely underestimating how bad the crisis was; Indonesian Rupiah used to be comparable to US dollars, during and after this crisis it inflated up to 600%

[@kellyhunte9668]

@DrSabot. Didn't realize it was that bad

[@ChadDidNothingWrong]

You get better and better man

[@CaptSyedAwais]

Thanks gentleman, everytime I come to your channel I get amazed by the content... thank you very much.. highly appreciated

[@TransistorBased]

The good of Indonesian carriers: they're cheap The bad: they exist

[@bethanntay]

Grat video. Keep up the great work. Can't wait for the next!.

[@piyushkanthak1087]

Respect your work a lot..You make me think of what really happens there...Amazing..

[@shariys1]

Great job putting this tragic accident into perspective.

[@antimon40]

I am an Indonesian and only flew once with an Indonesian carrier. Indonesia is an archipelago country so we heavily rely on aviation for transportations across the country. However, I think that the aviation industry is still not that good nor advanced. Being a developing nation, our country is filled with corruption, poverty, political chaos, etc. This, of course, has an impact on the aviation. It is common that most pilots are overworked and sometimes not trained adequately. Regulations and rules are not strictly and properly followed nor enforced. Forget about maintenance because there isn't any or, if it even exists, lack thereof. Negligence is common and if you notice, most airplane crashes in the past are attributed to improper maintenance, negligence, and/or unprofessionalism among the pilots and/or crew themselves.

[@halojump123]

Dominion chose our current President.

[@halojump123]

Dominion chose our current President.

[@donarnold8268]

Thank You for all of the work you do! Posting on Facebook...

[@MiniAirCrashInvestigation]

Thanks don!

[@sarahalbers5555]

Well done. You did an exceptional job on this! Thanks.

[@Rbronzatto]

again, love your videos, keep making them, they are awesome 😆

[@tannerwolf1267]

Fantastic, as always. Thank you for the dedication to great content!

[@lucabuckley5643]

Love the effort you put in man. I’m in flight school and am working towards the airlines. Love watching these to learn about what could have prevented air disasters.

[@constanttraveler]

Another quality episode

[@future62]

As soon as I heard "mountains to the left", "poor visibility" and "confusion" I was like oh I've seen this movie before.

[@davidbarry213]

Married to an Indonesian and have travelled there at least 15 times over the past 20 years. Garuda is a fantastic airline and it is my airline of choice when flying there. Service and friendliness of the crew is top, entertainment and meals are OK (no comparison to Emirates or Singapore airlines though). I have also flown a number of times domestically, within Indonesia. Lots of propeller planes (ATR-72) which can get tossed around a bit with turbulence (especially in Indonesia's mountainous/volcanic geography and hot climate). I have an Indonesian friend, whose uncle works for Lion air. He said that he would never himself fly with them, as he knows how sloppy they are. The only problem I've had is domestically, with many delays of the aircraft arriving and departing as well as changing departure gates at the last minute with little information or updates.

[@essbe7158]

Thank you for the video!

[@davidtucker3729]

what a screw-up. Screwed up ATC and a confused and poorly informed pilot and crew. Lives lost for little reason. It's heart breaking to hear these stories some times.You do such a great job!

[@toddsmith8608]

Situational awareness. If they knew where they were then they would have known they needed a right turn to intercept the localizer. If there is confusion then climb to safe altitude and regroup.

[@djjoshuahall]

Great video, love our always improving the production quality!! Always loads of details, Keep the quality videos coming man

[@TonyTheYouTuba]

In hindsight these sorts of things can seem really simple, but your telling really helps to understand the fog of war that was likely present at the time

[@transmogrified]

Great informative video. I actually learn something new. I am an Indonesian flyer who also flies all over the world. So I guess I am biased, but I never feel unsafe in any Indonesian aircraft. Yes there have been seemingly a lot of accidents in Indonesian aviation, but we (and the world) always learn valuable experience from these. There are unique flying conditions in Indonesia that don't exist anywhere else.

[@AudieHolland]

Garuda has the safest flying record in Indonesia or so I have read. Many crashes were because of cheap cost cutting small airline companies trying to make a profit, disregarding safety.

[@DrSabot-A]

@@AudieHolland You'd be right, after this accident Garuda did a major purge and rebranding of their staff and company and has since been accident-free which is pretty amazing and commendable

[@HaramXL]

Love your videos. Keep up the great work.

[@gilbertfranklin1537]

I saw this flight on a different channel a while back, and this one was much clearer and contained a lot better explanation of the circumstances involved. As has been said before, many crashes are the result of several events happening within a short time frame, and that was certainly true in this case. Several opportunities to correct the mistakes made were further jeopardized by other errors, and the result was catastrophic. So sad... 🤔

[@lh1tmaN]

Thank you for the video.

[@maxb4074]

So I turn left here? Right. OK turning right. No, left. Left? Right.

[@TheSledgehammer205]

Roger, Roger. What's our vector, Victor?

[@jeralddunn3782]

Right left here or left right here?

[@applesthecat]

You know, your voice reminds me a lot of a good friend of mine. He would stay on the phone with me until I fell asleep just to make sure I was alright when I was drinking myself half to death and taking pills every night. Listening to your videos before I fall asleep is actually really comforting for me for that reason. Also great video. All of your videos are awesome. This channel is awesome. Everything is awesome. I’m really fucking stoned.

[@patrickflohe7427]

I hope you’re doing better now.

[@Cincinnatus1869]

you must be so proud

[@scottn7cy]

I'm enjoying your videos. They are well done!

[@hfsee6228]

Well researched n solid narrative. No drama only hard facts

[@aztec0112]

Nice presentation of a shocking series of breakdowns cascading into disaster. Really enjoying your content.

[@jacksavage4098]

Thanks for your great videos.

[@desdicadoric]

Best aircraft channel on KZbin

[@asteverino8569]

Thanks for another great episode.

[@andreasbonini1647]

Hey you are doing a great job. I really like your channel. Thanks for making the videos!

[@heatherclark1137]

great video! i love your channel keep it up❤️

[@MiniAirCrashInvestigation]

Thanks heather!

[@javasrevenge7121]

You have a great channel, you are clear, have knowledge and you tell it very understandable for people who has no technical knowledge :)

[@aliasif8498]

This is d best air crash investigation channel

[@lightspeeder]

No wonder my dad was telling me to avoid Indonesian carriers. He's an air accident investigator for over 40 years in a neighbouring country.

[@IllegalTornado]

Very much enjoy your videos, keep it up ! ❤

[@glendooer6211]

Flew with Air Asia and I can tell you the staff had no idea how things worked..They had a crash were one pilot was singing out ...push back when they wanted to climb..so one was pushing the other pulling,

[@ellisandrews440]

Another excellent video. Look into doing a video about the Air Canada DC8 CF-TIW ,FLT 621 on July 5th 1970 at Toronto Pearson Airport. A tragic error that cost 109 lives. Thanks once again.

[@TheHallucinati]

"152 turn left. - Your left, or my left? - Right, um.. the mountain's left. "- Who left, please repeat, message not understood. - You're turning left now, right? Turn LEFT RIGHT now! - Right, OK, executing a turn right now..."

[@Subzer039]

V/O: "these were not official airport charts" CC: "they were official airport charts"

[@michaelharris679]

But were those the official CCs?

[@Sashazur]

Commenter is pointing out that the voiceover conflicts with the captions. This is around 6:25

[@joetaylor486]

In 1995 I flew from Soekeron-Hatta to Pattimura International in Ambon, with a stopover at Sultan Hassanuddin Airport in Makassar, Sulawesi. We were flying a small Focker jet with about 60 seats as I recall. Our approach to Sulawesi was through very heavy weather, and on touching down, we aquaplaned severely, whilst yawing to the right along almost a third of the runway. I found this to be extremely alarming. The rest of the flight was uneventful. I wonder what the de-rubbering procedures are at Sultan Hassanuddin? Also, why are tropical runways which are subject to daily heavy rainfall not forced to be grooved?

[@joetaylor486]

I should point out that I was flying with Sempati Air on that day.

[@russdority6295]

I flew many times in Indonesia over the last 40 years and ever time my heart was in my mouth.

[@ANTONSV5]

Great video really like the break down of the accident. What gen a300 was it ? How old were the plane ? How experienced were the pilots And can I make a suggestion for an accident : NLM cityhopper 431 a fokker F-28 that crashed due to extreme turbulence

[@YervanYang]

I'm from Indonesia and I'm really upset by the state of aviation industry back in the 1990s. It showed the true meaning of unprofessionalism starting from the airport operator(s), ATC, as well as the pilot and the aircraft itself. Everything fell apart, and such disaster can be 100% avoided if only they shut down Medan Polonia Airport in the very beginning due to the heavy smog and abruptly low visibility. Also, as of today (2021), Indonesia's aviation industry can be still considered hazardous, following the latest disaster involving Sriwijaya Air and also Trigana Air. You can check both incidents from google and news website.

[@patrolman53]

Wonderful informational video :)

[@rogsson.]

Keep up the good work!

[@cebukano520]

Great video.

[@ianhelps3749]

I have had a few internal flights in Indonesia, and I'm still here! Garuda and Citilink are the best for comfort and service, but usually more expensive. Lion Air is the biggest budget carrier. It rhymes with Ryanair, which says everything. Sriwijaya actually aren't bad.

[@steffenscheibler5849]

I have a friend who now works for Emirates but used to work for an Indonesian airline (being from Indonesia originally). They said that in the (distant) past airlines had maybe less safety features but overall pilots and crew in the air and on the ground were paid better relative to the cost of living. Flying was more of an elite thing. Mass flying is a more recent phenomenon in Indonesia and with it came a hard drive to be a profitable as possible and do whatever it takes to make it so. Corners would be cut. Problems ignored. Pilots silenced. Ground crew silenced, or mostly just sacked, if they flagged violations of safety. My friend left Indonesia 5 years ago to work for Emirates because they no longer felt safe on Indonesian aircraft. There is a strong drive to ignore problems, then bury them rather than just fix them. Fixing a problem means acknowledging the problem which is problematic not just for many airlines but also for persons who manage and are in charge of the aircraft. There is a fear the problem will reflect badly on them and it is better for them the aircraft crash on someone else's watch than they recognize a problem which needs to be fixed and then be asked 12 times by senior management why they are creating so many costs to the company.

[@cjc6063]

Noob question: If the GPWS was inhibited by the radio alt, because the radio alt was showing higher than they actually were, does that mean that the pilots were reading the radio alt and it faulted / was misconfigured? To explain why they were lower. Did they then notice on the baro?

[@Musikur]

No. Generally you look at the barometric altitude since it's more useful. The Radio altimeter is mostly only used for GPWS and landing annunciation (it only works up to a few thousand feet and it fluctuates a lot over rough ground). They just didn't notice their altitude - it's easy enough when you're distracted, especially with no external ques.

[@sailaab]

i (who is from Bharat wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhārat_Gaṇarājya ) have flown the sector till Djakarta during the period. The crop/ stubble burning and/or the local El Niño phenomenon had always affected flights and cities/ people even up in Singapore, Malaysia. . so yes... the same flight number issue with Merpati and the general lax regulation or confirming to (or for that matter even undestanding) S.O.P.s was always a bit of an issue there (... we are talking about the pre Internet boom era, relatively closed culture in certain ways). . The infrastructure changes/upgrades dod not always mirror with the people/ skill upgrade and vixe versa. . maybe some things have changed a little. but frankly.. in our time there, we were apprehensive of seeking ANY critical medical procedure even at the most known places (doctors, clinics) in the country capural too.

[@PilotGery1]

Great story telling, iam impressed. Looking for the next 👍

[@mjinabnit4481]

Audio needs help. Good video and great graphics. However, you have some kind of reverb (echo) on your audio which makes it difficult to fully understand your dialog. Good headset microphone and room sound proofing will really aid your audio. This video really needs great audio! Keep up the good work. I am always interested in these investigations. RIP 152 tnx om, 73 j

[@riyadhf1rdausehh]

Indonesian here, yeah the aviation industry here is undergoing slow reforms, but compare it to last 3 decades, it's much safer now. the last 2 major accidents were caused by 737MAX

[@HerezaLiem]

I lived in Indonesia. And there's one time that i flew on an airplane that i feel so dizzy like cruising on a speedboat. Also you have to try landing on an A320 with 2200 meters of runway and taxiing on the runway.

[@Syclone0044]

I’m fascinated to hear how the GPWS actually works, but can someone help clarify? He says in Mode 2A the GPWS will only generate warnings if the radio altitude is below 2500 feet and the terrain closure is below 3400 feet per minute. So that sounds like, roughly, the GPWS sounds it’s alarm when you are estimated about ~45 seconds away from impact? Is that correct? And what about other “Modes”, if any? What’s the shortest and longest advance notice prior to calculated impact? And why does it seem like all the air crash investigations I’ve watched, the Whoop Whoop, Pull Up! always seems to happen maybe 10 seconds prior to impact, tops? And around 13:00 he says the manufacturer said the radio altimeter was “out of track” (why?) and this caused a 3 second delay “and so their last line of defense was gone, a mountain was hurtling towards them and they had no way to know.” But from the prior statement, even with this false altitude reading, shouldn’t they still have more than 30 seconds of advance warning? And how do you avoid altimeter “out of track”? I fly DJI drones and I’m familiar with how they display your GPS altitude, as well as your altitude relative to your takeoff point, (which can actually become a negative number if you launch from atop a hill and fly down into the valley), plus a “Visual Height Sensor” which I believe uses the two metal “miniature speaker🔈”-looking sensors on the bottom of the drone to bounce some type of radar/sonar/sound/radio(?) wave off the ground to get a direct reading of your AGL, and on my 2 drones, that sensor only functions up to perhaps 50ft AGL. It just astonishes me that with all the technology my drone has to automatically recent crashes, and how impressively advanced it is even on my 3-4 year old drones, that commercial passenger aircraft still have systems prone to such an egregious failure to prevent CFIT.

[@topherd1011]

Just another example of a bunch of people who have NO BUSINESS controlling aircraft or flying aircraft. When the crew heard about visibility below minimum standards- they should have called it off right there. Point blank. End of story. And these folks would be alive today. Instead the attitude of “I can fly in anything” prevailed.

[@mrkiplingreallywasanexceed8311]

Yes, for those of us 'civilians', I always find the stories eminently followable - he strikes the right balance explaining the relevant technicalities, without really either interrupting the flow - or, I would imagine, frustrating the experts. Incidentally, I'm thinking most people are aware, certainly historically, if the terrible reputation Aeroflot garnered for itself, but the question at the end about Indonesian carriers seems highly relevant! I wonder which other airlines it may be advisable to avoid 😶

[@Needmore27]

And 18 years before this crash, there's also crash involving Garuda's Fokker 28 crashing into Mt. Sibayak (same province as 1997 crash) and many victims from both crash share the same mass burial. Coincidentaly, the governor who attend the burial, Raja Inal Siregar, perished when his plane crash after take of from Polonia airport on 2005.