THIS WEEK WAS HELL || Zero to KSM Challenge #3

[@Danukii]

Great episode! I think all of us who switch into MW have that lightbulb moment when it finally starts to make sense. As far as what to do in AOE healing situations, it’s not much different from single target. You vivify cleave heals anyone with renewing mists, so just aim to have 4-5 of those out with rising sun kick and then use those instant vivify profs, and if it’s a lot of healing needed use the instant vivifys from soothing mists if you’re really behind. Great to see you improving! Can’t wait for the next one.

[@Danukii]

Also flame any shaman that didn’t take poison cleansing totem to help with afflicted

[@Dillisan]

Appreciate the tips, thank you! Yeah, I had a terrible start and it was depressing, I was determined to turn this around and I think I did? It feels better but always more to learn and get better with. Next one should be good ;)

[@Kitahand]

I just FEEL the panic on that Uld boss xD I too have gone through the stages of grief here. I can also confirm, Dilli cram studies at bedtime to become the best monk in the WORLD! -...of warcraft

[@Dillisan]

I'm really trying! Yeah sorry about the Tanking, I get excited >.>

[@radzytaufek604]

yeah uldaman dwarf bosses really scared the hell out of me. other players LOS, avoiding the fires, player getting debuff, and as a monk, its really hard to dps to get more healing

[@Dillisan]

Yeah that's one of my least favourite bosses for healing so far :D

[@Felixxfb]

I love this series. It's pretty entertaining, especially to me who has been healing since TBC.

[@Dillisan]

Oh nice, I'm glad you're enjoying the series

[@ninjanikstudios2280]

Ah yes afflicted. This totally fixed the grievous problem… Great video again Dilli!

[@Dillisan]

Thank Ninja, glad you enjoyed. I would much rather Afflicted tbf, but it's tough dealing with on your own :D

[@Matte8lack]

Disc priest/SV Hunter here. You definitely have to full trust your damage abilities to keep your friends alive. Afflicted: No you were doing everything fine. Nameplates dont show up in elvui/plater/kui as blizzard disabled modifications to friendly nameplates in leigon because of weak aura abuse in raiding and m+. The affix is not a healer affix especially in pug as the majority of people in pugs are sleeping at the wheel and eating mechanics form every single mob. Also once you get to higher key levels you cannot one global heal the affix anymore unless you are a paladin(lay on hands). It is extremely risky going into keys with only healer and another dispeller. Before starting a key always tell the dispeller classes to do the dispells. Also there are certain dungeons where the healer cannot spend a single gcd or a dispel to deal with the affix. Examples are Underrot(between boss 2 and 3), Vortex Pinnacle(gust soldiers), Freehold(officers) and some others. You were doing some mistakes but that is just part of the learning process but I would say you are on the right track to becoming a good healer. But dont get disheartened by the general attitude of pugs towards healers. It has been like that since the start of DF. What helps a lot is not playing always with the same pugs but try to make friends along the way and try to invite them to your keys. Especially when you find ones like that good guardian druid. Try to hit up a conversation with them and add them to your friends. Also grr bad mr strimer/utuber for hating on hunters.

[@Dillisan]

Thanks for the tips and appreciate that we can agree on the affix. Going into nearly every key I asked all that could dispel, to dispel. And yet, completely ignored even though they agreed to it. In terms of pugs and who I play with, being a Zero to KSM, I can't add other players and continue to group with them even though that Druid was awesome. I can however continue with the same group if they are up for another key. Not stated in my rules and everyone does their challenge slightly different but that's one of mine. Ha, Hunter love is always necessary and it will continue, they do it to themselves :P

[@Matte8lack]

@@Dillisan Also bunch of things for uldaman. The trio dwarfs isnt really tough as there isnt much outgoing damage. You can get away with as little healing as 40k HPS in even on +20. For the trogg (Bruh-mach) you should save bigger CDs for when the totem comes out and just do top ups when the totem isnt up on people who are taking damage. The third boss is the breaker of pugs tbh. What is currently happening is DPS not using any defensives/health pots(even in +20) when they get the bleed or they use them once they drop to below 20% which is too late on that boss. The defensives have to be used the second they get the bleed. Without defensives it just ticks for way too much and especially on healers like MW and Disc that fight is close to impossible to heal if dps sleeps on their buttons. Golem is kinda whatever. Not very many high damage spikes going out and most people just die to the slow moving balls (even in +20). Otherwise it is pulsing pretty constant damage. Biggest downfall after pugs sleeping on the fire balls is if the group gets split up. Last boss is same as emberron in terms of damage profile. It is pulsing constant damage and there arent many big spikes. Biggest problem on this fight for pugs is positioning. If you have a pure melee group for this then it is fine as everyone will stick kinda close. But if you have a range or two i group they will stay in narnia making some of the healing extremely difficult for no reason. Just tell them to group up.

[@Yattayatta]

Hey Dillisan! A tip for getting your Niffen cache, on reset day, join the "researchers under fire" event, starts every half hour (7:30, 8:30, 9:30. 10:30 etc) in Zaralek caverns, it's a quick event that can be done in raid, usually takes around 12-15 minutes for the whole thing, and it gives you 1000 rep with Niffen from the bag you get at the end, making the 1500 Niffen rep quest take no time at all. To get the maximum rep you should participate in all 12 stages of the event, so make sure to follow along. Also you find these groups under group finder ---> Custom Cheers and keep the videos coming! Enjoy following along even as an advanced m+ player!

[@Dillisan]

Really glad you're enjoying the series and I appreciate the tip. This has been pointed out a few times but I don't think I can be bothered with it right now :P

[@Exterminatedslushie2]

My advice from this point is, don’t panic hit your buttons, always lead with chi-ji>sheiluns at 10 stacks> revival as your order of panic healing, and on bosses, your chi-ji will be up more often. When you’re panicking about a single player dropping, remember that you have thunder focus tea and enveloping mist that is an “emergency” single target heal. Your renewing mist application is much better this week, if you start mastering the emergency heal rotation you’ll have figured out a lot of the class. Good luck! If you start feeling confident on this part, start looking into ways to splice your ring of peace and leg sweep for really nice set up. Don’t do this before getting confident on the emergency heal rotation. But as someone with ADHD as well, this solved me being nervous and panicky in these situations. Best of luck!

[@Dillisan]

Thanks for your input! I have been much better with everything mentioned but obviously there are still moments that catch me of guard. In time it will get loads better. I have been poor with my Ring and stun, I think that will start improving once the healing becomes easier but I have been working on those, hopefully I can add clips in of me actually doing this cause I've only shown the poor moments which make me look bad and vulnerable :D

[@BONK3RZS]

Hello! I just started heavily diving into mistweaver near the end of last season and here are some of the points I wish I would’ve beaten into my head faster: -Diffuse magic acts as a solo dispel, always use it to cleanse yourself so you can dispel a teammate during heavy dmg (I.e., golem boss in Uldir) -Caccoon not only saves 1 life, but can also mass heal if you spec into it. Typically I will use this pre-emptively on a squishy target so the entire party gets healed during heavy damage in the fight. -Renew is so important because it causes your vivify to cleave heal. During party wide damage don’t be afraid to cast vivify for the reason, bouncing around your party to keep them up. the only time I soothing mist>spam vivify is if the individual is taking heavy damage, and then it’s only for an instant cast enveloping mist. -get a weak aura for your instant cast vivify’s and for your shaloon’s gift buff. Track that stuff! Having more haste means you can heal more through fist weaving, but having duplicate healings or increase crit means you can send out more vivify’s! I really hope this helps! I love your videos!

[@Dillisan]

Hey, thanks for all the tips and I'm glad you're enjoying the videos! I have been struggling with the vivify cleave, something I improved on for the next episode (I hope anyway), but still need some work on that. I do actually have my WA's setup nicely which tracks everything I need, I had to add some sound queue's though for Vivify procs mainly, so I think I'm good on that front. I'll check the Gift one though, perhaps I need sound queues for that. Can't remember if my Cocoon heals, I will have to look into that, it's something I often save but I need to use it more, this I know. Appreciate your comment :)

[@BONK3RZS]

@@Dillisan Absolutely! Really glad to see the improvement, wish you the best!

[@celery4564]

Watching this video has made me feel better at never having played a healer in 18 years of playing WoW.

[@Dillisan]

I think you should give MW a shot :P

[@Matte8lack]

Tbh all dps and tanks should give healing a try and try to get at least to a level of proficciency in them so they can heal +16s. You will learn so much about the encounters by healing them. Waaay more and way faster than if you are dpsing/tanking. You will start noticing when big aoe dmg, some positioning and also how certain damage profiles feel for different bosses.

[@ertermas]

Great episode again! The moment when something starts click is always so rewarding! Last week was weird being a warrior as afflicted isn't something I can do anything about which got very annoying in some pugs...

[@Dillisan]

Thanks man, glad you enjoyed! Yeah Warrior is in a weird spot right now, feels great on the monk being able to cover so much :))

[@AnEnragedCat]

for real man, i main warrior as well and these past couple weeks have felt kinda bad not being able to help much with incorporeal and not at all with afflicted :( i'm gearing my evoker now because i dont't enjoy that feeling lmao

[@Dillisan]

@@AnEnragedCat I main DH so I can relate for the most part although I was at least helpful for Incorporeal. I also love my Prot Warrior but it doesn't feel as great right now. Sad times :(

[@sreiriala8812]

Love your zero to ksm series, please keep going ! best of luck !

[@Dillisan]

It won't end until I have achieved KSM ;) I also have another 1-2 planned for this season so stay tuned for those also :)

[@NittyGritty_Crochet]

Such a great series Dilli

[@Dillisan]

I live to serve :D. I'm glad you enjoyed, I still heal every now and then but I struggle so much xD

[@Mega0omar]

Your editing is top notch, and the commentary is spot on. Keep this up I can see you growing!! Would love to see that happen. Also I main monk, so Im bias of the gameplay.! Thank you

[@Dillisan]

Wow, thank you so much for the wonderful compliments! Loads of challenges planned, I have found my calling :). Loving the Monk, perhaps my new main :D

[@kashug.]

Great video. So funto follow your progress.

[@Dillisan]

It's been an experience!

[@sebbel9063]

Love this new series! You put in so much work into these videos and they are so long 😮 great to watch on train to work!

[@Dillisan]

Glad you're enjoying the series Sebbel :)

[@andrewcampion8200]

I just found this series now and I'm watching all these episodes from the beginning.. and this is where I am personally myself, so it's super interesting to hear your take on all of this. I'm completely new to M+ and just started a week ago (I procrastinated until I was ilvl424 before getting the courage to do it). I have few alts but one is a disc priest, so I'm feeling your pain when it comes to ramping up to damage in order to heal and panicking widly when trying to spot heal. I also run a **cough** BM Hunter :)

[@Dillisan]

Oh noes, another Hunter! :P I hope you find my journey enjoyable and good luck with your Mythic+ adventures

[@ZenGumbo]

Love these videos I just happened to find megs videos myself and it made me finally want to try MW as a healer. I've mained Hpal forever and I love this class so much it's so fun to play. I definitely feel your pain though with panic and tunnel vision and resorting to soothing must by default 🤣 getting better though pushing up to 15's right now on tyrannical which is nuts

[@Dillisan]

Yeah Meg is amazing and even though her videos are more tailored towards MW, she breaks down fights and damage patterns so it's incredibly useful for all healers. Good luck with the Monk, it's incredibly fun!

[@ReoRoo]

"Is it really that hard for another party member to dispel the second one?" Apparently it is! I absolutely hated afflicted week, most of the paladins (and monks) didn't take the dispel talent, didn't help heal them and even some DPS who did take the dispel talents didn't even use 'em! That's only some groups though, of course. Other groups I adored since they actually helped the healer out (me). Also you're right, MD doesn't work on them, but at least the priest attempted to help! Evoker is my main healer, but I play MW as my second and you've definitely improved! Getting flustered and screwing up during those moments is understandable, but once you get more confident it'll be easier to deal with. Keep it up!

[@Dillisan]

Glad you're enjoying the content and yeah I am slowly getting there! :)

[@Shmeeps_phd]

ring was the right choice. if you're playing at this level and aren't swimming in aspect/wyrms crests. getting hero track slots wrapped up is much better. it was also the same upgrade in ilvl if i saw that right. cloak was 408->424(437max), ring was 411->428 (441max).

[@Dillisan]

I think a few disagreed but this made most sense to me, I don't know :D

[@zacebbflo]

Sorry if someone already said this. You can change your clique binding to a hover cast then you can dispel the afflicted as a mouse over. No target needed

[@Dillisan]

Yeah this was pointed out afterwards but always appreciate the tips. Should be so much easier next time...lol

[@sanikthehogheg2891]

First time seeing your channel and I’m ngl… I’m already thoroughly enjoying this ‘series?’ 10/10 keep it up

[@Dillisan]

Appreciate that Sanik, glad you're enjoying the content! Season 1's BDK challenge was a great hit too, perhaps check that out also :)

[@madeofmeats]

The only mythic I ran during the afflicted affix was a freehold with 0 off heal classes and a poor overworked healer. It was mostly a guild group with like two pugs, it still was a massive oversight on the group organizer’s part inviting a demon Hunter to a group that already had a demon hunter, a warrior, and a warlock. Womp womp.

[@Dillisan]

Oh boy, not a great comp for that week, sounds like my group organization :D

[@moviearticka]

You are doing amazing man, i love to see you grow as a player and healer. The balance between playing offensive and defensive healing is something that comes with time and is the real skill difference of being a mediocre and great healer. Cant wait for next episode!

[@Dillisan]

I'm really glad you're enjoying the series, thank you for watching! Yeah it's the main struggle right now but I have seen improvements and Episode 4 won't disappoint ;)

[@shaneb1203]

You heal which imo is the hardest thing in the game. This video was cool thank you for the content

[@Dillisan]

It is certainly the most challenging role for me, surprisingly not for everyone though :D. Glad you're enjoying the content

[@omy8443]

Nice I am also started a mistweaver at the end of last season, 430 now and doing 16 but still struggling to get the rotation correct, On yeah you are gonna need a mouseover for afflicted. once I got it running I have no problem with my weaver, they were gone in a second.

[@Dillisan]

I can only dream of doing 16's! I'll fixe the mouseover for next time, we got dis :)

[@Hayjeff1198]

undulating sporecloak helps a lot as an embellishment slot dw about a cape slot as healer

[@Dillisan]

That is high on my list and already favourited for crafting :)

[@cre9774]

loving the series dill! one bit of advice, maybe? is that you seem to get panicked when people lose hp (as you said yourself) you have so much passive healing in your kit to deal with 70-80% health drops - but you seem to be doing quite a bit of active ability spam as soon as people have the slightest bit of missed health. I definitely think its something that comes with time and practice, but there's a lot of situations where there is no damage coming out and you're rushing to get people from 70% back to full. You can chill a bit, let your passive healing from BK and SCK bring people back to full - unless you've got somebody at 40% whos not using personals and there's a mechanic coming 0 you ain't gotta worry. TRUST YOUR FISTWEAVING i genuinely think this gets better with higher keys. 5-11 are a cesspit where you cannot hope to heal through stupidity

[@Dillisan]

Yup this is the biggest issue I am facing (imo anyway). The panic is real some times but it's improving. You are right about the key level, my experiences have been better at the higher key levels, jumping into a 10 was scary but I proved it was very possible and went even further so I'm happy with my progress so far :)

[@hunzug]

Love your videos, always a fun watch

[@Dillisan]

Love your comments!

[@ProfoundPride]

This was a terrible week for M+, So many times they go off because no one else wants to dispell. I KNOW your pain! Great video, really see you smashing it on the MW :D

[@Dillisan]

Yup it's disappointing, no matter what role I play I help with everything I can. Loving Monk and it's been an interesting experience healing in general and I have a new appreciation to those that heal. Naz, you are amazing and I'm glad you enjoyed the video

[@alihorda]

everybody hated this affix, as dps player i lost so much uptime because i had to dispell 2, yes 2 ghosts most of the time because the healer didnt know about it or simply wasnt cooperative, we kindly wrote down that it is mainly his job to dispell but he didnt even use his buffs (mark of the wild) throughout the dungeons. So i gave up and did everything myself, again. Thank god i talented 2 dispells that week (evoker)

[@Dillisan]

Every player should chip in and do what they can, I think it was just pure ignorance and they had no idea what was going on most of the time :D

[@ladycattington942]

Well you know this wasn't my best week healing either, and part of that was my doing (changing too much UI) and part was those darned afflicted mobs being so tough to see. It was pretty vile and honestly put me off m+ for a bit. Glad you persisted tho Dilli, you're smashing it!

[@Dillisan]

Onwards and upwards! Take your time, you got this, we all have bad weeks

[@gruffry]

glad to see you going with this series again in season 2 :) what is the addon you're using for the b-roll type clips? the one that shows all of your gear and what keystones/timings you've had as season best?

[@Dillisan]

Oh that's Narcissus, it's amazing and does SO MUCH! Highly recommend :)

[@gruffry]

@@Dillisan yo thank you for getting back so fast dude! gonna download that now. can't wait for more episodes!

[@GameplayOssboss]

Would love to join you for 1 or 2 dungeons during your journey. Also i am dispelling the ghosts even as a damage dealer. :P

[@Dillisan]

Well sadly this character is off limits until the challenge is over because of the rules, this is 100% pure pugging :P. If you're on EU you are more than welcome to join for some keys on Saturdays :)

[@adrianunderwood5573]

Your 0-KSm challenges really make me think its silly to worry about going to the mythic runs and doing them. I was on a long break from wow and was very afraid to start and do mythics (especially since I had little experience with them to begin with). I only run them when my friends are available to play. But watching these video's make sme think whether on main or on my alts, its ok to just go in and do my best.

[@Dillisan]

It's not all bad, there have been some great groups/players but I do feel like I have had a stroke of bad luck with some of this series lol. If you're EU and want to join myself and the community for some chill keys, you are more than welcome to. There's no pressure with us, all very welcoming and super helpful :)

[@legendaryentity]

hi, stopping by to bump your comment section from 139 to an even 140 :) great video. Honestly wish I had the time to play to try a zero to hero myself. Great job with this video. thank you for your time.

[@Dillisan]

Appreciate you

[@MindReaderr]

As a main healer and dps alt (both at 3k rio), afflicted is anything BUT a healer affix. It should be fully soloed by the dps or worst case, the healer to dispell 1 if there are no other dispells going on (such as underrot skeleton packs between 2nd and 3rd boss). I'm one that argued explosive was a healer only affix, and i used to always have 70%+ of the explosive kills not minding it, but this one is fully designed for the dps to handle. Especially given how on higher keys most packs require lots or healing. The part where a healer can heal it is only a backdoor if the group is poopoo and if that's the case bette4 just leave if you ask me.

[@Dillisan]

Thankfully I never healed during Explosives, this is my first experience ever healing M+. There seems to be split opinions on this but I'm totally with you on this, I can dispel one no worries but both during heavy healing situations is problematic. Some have commented saying it's totally a healer affix and they claim to be a healer themselves which I either highly doubt or they are just completely trolling. Either way, a poor attitude to have imo, even if you are capable dealing with them as a healer.

[@soxnotsocks]

Diffuse magic on the grapeshot. Puts the dot on the boss

[@Dillisan]

Yeah I've been terrible at using that, something I need to improve on

[@Gmii7y]

Hey Love the content, which Addon is it that shows the Character/gear info in that clean ui? (not the small popup box for gear, the almost cinematic screen

[@Ezilii]

If you have to take care of both, heal the first one, dispel the second. Mass dispel won’t cover afflicted. The week was rough. I started to scale back my playing because of it.

[@Dillisan]

I tried healing the other one but I struggled with my setup as mentioned in the video, healing the first one may have been a better idea though, I will try that next time :)

[@Ezilii]

@@Dillisan Yeah we all struggled. Such a bad implementation of the affix.

[@TheDMNMOR]

As a fan of teamwork, there is no affix that is healer/dps specific. Great video. You make me want to switch from Brewmaster to Mistweaver

[@Dillisan]

Oh wow, from Tank to Healer? I'm proud! Try it, it's incredibly fun :)

[@robotspartan9100]

on the S2 timers being generous: we timed an uldaman 12 last night, despite the hunter (i swear i'm not me memeing) DC'ing as the key went in and never coming back. Nobody was above ilvl 415. We had a full wipe at one point. That should not have been possible 😅 Oh, and of course the hunter got loot...

[@Dillisan]

Hunters you say, I can believe this :P

[@snowjumper1811]

Great video but I have a question, whats the addon called for food/consumables cycle?

[@Dillisan]

That's Opie, great addon and saves loads of space on your bars. Quite simple to setup and you can use the same ring across all your characters. Plus, you can create as many rings as you want, so you can have one purely for mounts/toys/consumables. It's great :)

[@samuelhellewell2880]

Awsome vid as always! I wonder if you had any feelings about the bug that had it so we had no affixes this week. I-completely understand your feelings on afflicted (I’m blood dk so I can’t do anything about it). Glad to see the progress and hope to see more next week!(:

[@Dillisan]

The no affix thing was just NA from what I understand, so they disabled M+ on the Tuesday. It was back for Wednesday for EU reset and it introduced a new bug, Sanguine occurring in keys lower than 14 lol. Yeah I felt sad playing my DH/Warrior, can't do anything to deal with them, though apparently DK's could heal Afflicted with Death Coil which sounds incredibly funny to me xD Glad you enjoyed

[@Quirrelq7]

I can really recommend using a weakaura for Afflicted. It will show one or two bars with timers until the cast goes off, so you always know if you need to look around for the last one.

[@Dillisan]

I do and it's visible in the second half of the video (I updated my WA pack). See here: @24:12 (middle of the screen and top middle)

[@rodrigocardenas1727]

Quick question, are you running the onyx amulet ring. is easy to get and its usually a massive upgrade, although maybe not for monk. generally for other healers if you use it for damage is mega BIS, but even if you run it only for healing it gets outpaced at 441 not before!

[@Dillisan]

I touch in this in Episode 4. TLDR: I cba to obtain it :D

[@BoomTadow]

Trust your fistweave and dont hold chiji on strong packs. Its 1m cd so almost always up when you need it. Also clique you can set hovercast on heals/dispel so they work for afflicted

[@Dillisan]

Yeah that's one of the things I noticed, not using it enough and I need to be better at that. Hmm, I will look into that for Clique, thank you :)

[@KingQuate]

@@Dillisan ive got all my healing spells macrod to be mouseover and havent needed to click for it, i can give u the mouseover macro i use for it if youd like to try it

[@KingQuate]

i have an alt pally that i play on when im done things on my main and for afflicted i never dispelled them i just use word of glory on them and it insta fullheals them

[@Dillisan]

I use mouseover macros for my dispel but I use Clique for my healing so there's no healing spells on my bar. However there's a setting I can enable which turns them into mouseover heals which I wasn't aware of :)

[@UltimateGamerCC]

if i was in an Afflicted key, i'd help by casting Lay on Hands onto one of them, then expect the healer to get the other one. unless of course there's someone in the group who has a perfect answer for that affliction. well, hopefully after this week you've recovered and regained some confidence. Volcanic and Sanguine are pretty easy to manage after all.

[@Dillisan]

I mean, my dispel would be up and so would yours so if we got 2, easy peasy. But I guess some of the players just didn't understand the affix and assumed I wasn't healing at times :D. This week has been bugged with Sanguine occurring in lower keys so yeah, that was fun :D

[@UltimateGamerCC]

@@Dillisan sure, but remember there are things that are not easily dispelled, Curses require a Lock or Shaman for example. as a Pally i cant dispel Diseases neither. so LoH is my best bet when those show up.

[@crispybaconmatters7160]

Bro, just put a point in disease dispell. Why would you waste a LOH on it? I don't understand this line of thought at all.

[@UltimateGamerCC]

@@crispybaconmatters7160 i'm Ret, i dont have a Disease dispel, i cant even dispel Poison.

[@radzytaufek604]

gratz on doin 13 key. i havent really farm healing gears on my monk. this week kinda busy with the 4 mythic weekly quest. i did sneak into some normal raid but i still see my overall healing kinda bad (around 20k ish)

[@Dillisan]

Man, I would suck healing a raid but thankfully I have zero interest in raiding this tier :D

[@radzytaufek604]

@@Dillisan healing in raid kinda easier if the other healers can carry the whole team. plus its less stressful

[@JohnSmith-lo8rr]

ring was 100% the right choice. Heroic upgrade tier and rolled Speed as a bonus. Getting capes at Champion upgrade tier only requires +9 mythics, which are braindead easy in comparison to Heroic raid, etc

[@Dillisan]

I'll end up crafting my cloak anyways so yeah, ring was the right choice imo

[@emicorne]

Mass dispell definetely doesn't work with afflicted, because they require any dispell EXCEPT for magic, this is also the reason why is it not a healer only affixe, since just like DDs have to take an extra talent point for their dispells, the healers too must do so to take an extra point over the magic dispell on disease / curse / poison or whatever their class can dispell. Moreoever, the healer's magic dispell should be kept for party members in some part of the dungeons (all packs before 1st boss in VP, for example). Also, if they don't want to dispell the add, they can heal it just better than the healer can. First because your mana isn't infinite, also because your healings are required elsewhere most of the time, and lastly because every role BUT healer got their healing buffed as the new season started. Most ppl don't think about it but even if warlocks have no dispell, they can actually help by being the "magic dispell" (with the right pet) the party needs if the healer has to spare theirs on afflicted. Just like priests can mass dispell the party. That's a EVERYONE affixe and I love the way it forces us to play team !

[@Dillisan]

Team play is the way! Yeah I didn't think mass dispel worked, I thought the Priest was helping initially but turns out they wasn't lol

[@Bakuran1987]

What addon is that when you are on character panel? It looks so modern.

[@omotiverat]

It's called Narcissus

[@XZamilaX]

afflicted really isnt that bad when the dps get the mindset of just use one gcd to dispell them, i ran alot of keys as tank in the afflicted week and had a shadow priest with me, he had even more dispells then most healers, its ONE GCD boys just dispell them and tkae the pain off your healer, the dungeons are hard enough to heal on higher keys

[@Dillisan]

Exactly this, one GCD and the group lives on. But no, healer affix ofc >.>

[@crispybaconmatters7160]

This is the way...

[@oskarkristiansen635]

Awsome video👍 i like the fact that you play like a person with mistakes like the rest of us🙈can easily relate to it myself🙂 keep up the good work🤟

[@Dillisan]

Thanks Oskar, means a lot! That's exactly what I'm trying to do, I'm human and not amazing at the game so I make many mistakes. I'll stand here with the Underdogs of WoW, we got this!

[@Diskhate]

Doing +17 Uldaman with Afflicted, as a Disc priest, with not a single other player in the party dispelling has been the most intense thing i've had to do this season, bar none. Especially the last boss, with all the constant pulsating damage..there were legit times when i had to just focus on the affix and pray that the team would use defensives-self heal in the mean time.. I honestly despise role/class specific affixes...i'll take stuff like volcanic/thundering etc any day

[@Dillisan]

If just ONE other player helps, the affix is incredibly easy. If the toxic player base leaves this down to the healer, as apparently it's a "healer affix", then it can be very tough at times. DPS complain because it means using a GCD which results in lower dps, but if they die because an Afflicted goes off, they deal zero damage.

[@crispybaconmatters7160]

Diskhate, can confirm the affix is beans if others wont spare a talent point or GCD to help. In that case, I brick their key and just leave at this point. It's not worth my time or effort (or sanity) to have to micromanage the afflicted mobs, plus do all the mechanics, plus all the healing, etc.

[@kyrriana1772]

As a holy priest playing M+ on Afflicted week, using clique, all I wanna say is: AAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaAAaaAaAAAaaaaaa

[@Dillisan]

I feel your pain :D

[@Saluuntv]

I'm a returning player.. I started to gear my character kinda the same way as you do in this challenge and 6 minutes in I see you open your vault and you had 2 not so great items.. so what you could have done imo and I made this mistake as well... you could have not taken either gears and pick the currency at the bottom. From that if I recall correctly you can buy 4 wyrm crests.. which if you get enchanted you can use for a really nice crafted item of your choice. I realized this after I picked my vault and was pretty disappointed to get my stuff crafted with lower ilvl due to the lack of crests.

[@Dillisan]

I didn't know you could use gems to purchase crests but I personally wouldn't do this. I would save them for sockets later on when you have the gear and then a Lariat would be huge.

[@calamity0.o]

You can macro damage abilites to target the target of your mouseover or focus like tank. I use default ui. Dispel mouseover on all my capable alts is one of first macros I create on a new class.

[@Dillisan]

I use loads of mouseover macros, especially dispels. Focus is something I have never been able to get use to though

[@DarkDragonLord]

ill be honest team player is great and all but it is not practical to heal afflicted dispell one and the DPS have to get the other if they are not doing that they are not doing there job. coming form a 20 plus healer if that matters.

[@Dillisan]

Appreciate seeing higher healers commenting on this and hopefully enjoying my struggles :D is it just as bad at 20's? I thought key level would have been a whole lot different with more experienced players, I guess not...fills me with hope lol

[@DarkDragonLord]

@@Dillisan Under a 10 i find it rare to see anyone dispell above 15 it depends on the group some are good some are bad. Above 20 most of the time people are competing to dispel it the quickest. Yes i do find the struggle entertaining takes me back to learning evoker beginning of season 1.

[@Dillisan]

@@DarkDragonLord Oh boy, Evoker is just weird for me and a few viable ways to play, right? Glad the community didn't vote for that one :D

[@WelsyCZ]

Loved it, it may have been hell but it was not your fault, not most of it anyway, besides the chain deaths lol.

[@Dillisan]

Meh, always the healers fault right ? :D

[@Fudzbo]

My issue wasnt the extra add that I needed to heal or dispel, its that the extra add just couldn't show up in my healer UI (because why not of course). I don't have the space for mouse-over macros, so having to target each fucking thing and cast whatever spell was such a pain in the dick. Definitely an affix I'll only be doing a single run with when its up.

[@Dillisan]

Hopefully the second time round more players dispel and we can actually see the affix properly, but we'll see I guess.

[@Fudzbo]

@@Dillisan What I noticed is that those adds can either be cleansed (with the appropriate capable spell) or healed to full to clear them. Both of which I can do with almost zero effort if they were to show up in my UI (I use vuhdo). Its the extra effort of having to target or have mouse over stuff. Maybe blizzard just felt like being assholes this season with this affix. Bug or feature, we'll see I suppose.🤷‍♂

[@anthonyb656]

A tough week, great progress though

[@Dillisan]

Thanks, this was a tough one!

[@bojnebojnebojne]

Imagine the hunter saying taunt :D. Misdirect hello?

[@Dillisan]

You have to spec into it these days and sadly most don't (as far as I'm aware)

[@bojnebojnebojne]

@@Dillisan Ah, yea i dunno, i don't see why we wouldn't take it tbh. It's just too good of a tool to miss out on unless we loose a lot of dmg for it.

[@TheUnderJaker]

you dont need to stand in your faeline all the time when you step off you keep the passive for 8 seconds, just need to step back on it before it falls off

[@Dillisan]

Not for everything but I do need to stand inside to get the most out of my healing.

[@TheUnderJaker]

@@Dillisan when you leave Faeline Stomp, Awakened Faeline, and Ancient Concordence persist for 8 seconds after leaving, you don’t lose anything for walking off of it. As long as you touch it again within that 8 seconds. It allows you to adjust while using melee attacks without losing stomps buff.

[@Dillisan]

Hmm okay, I assumed you had to stay inside for cleaving. I'll take another look at that, thanks!

[@TheUnderJaker]

@@Dillisan o ok, for just the cleave you actually have to be on the stomp. I got you, but that where your free vivify, and essence font come in.

[@AmuzedWatcher]

If you have elvui and plater both installed, you may need to go into the settings and designate which addon to use for mob health bars. I would assume both are selected on yours, rn

[@Dillisan]

Yeah I went into both Plater and Elv and nothing fixed it. There was a fix from Quazii for plater but this didn't work for me. There was also something I could try within the default settings but again didn't work for me. Oh well, hopefully it's fixed next time round.

[@asd44063]

What Addon does your character pannel like that?

[@Dillisan]

That would be Narcissus

[@hazemhariri4073]

@Dilisan love the ui anyway i can get a profile string

[@Dillisan]

Not the current one but I'm working on a new one that looks just as clean and will be available to download FREE from the Discord :)

[@igor_pavlovich]

If you thought last week was hell, this week will be a completely purgatory. As a tank it feels like fortified and tyrranic at the same time, cause of sanguine. (good luck keeping concecration as pala tank) As a range dps (or heal) it gets so much irritating because of volcanic, you lose dps/hps (as a bonus, fire mages cant see volcanic when in combust). As far for me its worst affixes for the whole 2nd season. On the other side, Melee dps and hpal wouldnt feel anything, its a cakewalk for them. Managed to climb to 22s last week, but this week i cant even do 21s.

[@Dillisan]

I'm a little confused, why would Sanguine be easier for melee and harder for ranged? I personally feel it's way harder for melee. Ranged don't have to stand in sanguine, melee have to follow the mobs and avoid it. At most, ranged have to move slightly to adjust their position but you're ranged for a reason, you stand away from sanguine and not near/in it like melee. Along with this, I'm also a melee healer so it was a pain at times but ring of piece is great when used correctly.

[@igor_pavlovich]

@@Dillisan no, you misunderstood me, sanguine is only hard for the tank, and only in high keys (because for most of dungeons its limited space where you can move pack without pulling others).

[@Mimsy_Crush]

ill tell you 1 issue inviteing a raganaros 11:03

[@Dillisan]

You are like the 5th person to mention their server being incredibly toxic and problematic. I don't like singling out players due to their server but if it's really that bad...

[@firdatgame]

"People stood in the maggot ability, nothing i can really do about that" - Says the man with paralysis, leg sweep and ring of peace available

[@Dillisan]

Fair point but I meant more in terms of healing :P

[@avinion]

People purposefully not doing any mechanic and griefing the key? Healers fault.

[@danoizedafunk753]

That’s the most dps brain comment I have ever read.

[@aminegoubaa4393]

I mean technically u are not wrong . I was a holy priest main season 1 with 2.8 io and each time a player dies to a knockback mechanics (the big add on algathar academy ) i ll always try to leap of faith them . Even though it s technically their fault for not running away/dodging the mechanic , it s always a good mentality to have thinking about what u couldve done to save them . (I can ensure you that i did some crazy saves with leap of faith throughout last season :p ) TlDR : it s never your fault as a healer if someone dies , unless you want to improve , then there is always something u couldve done better :p

[@Dillisan]

@@aminegoubaa4393 Yup and that's what I try to do, take something away from every encounter that I could do better. I'm very critical of myself but it's how I improve

[@flam3crash]

Easiest week ever :D I am guardian druid so i have the dispell and instant heal :P

[@Dillisan]

I had some awesome Guardian Druids, it made me want to play mine!

[@nahh-iwould-win]

As a brewmaster i really cant afford to spend many globals on other stuff. I had 32 dispelss, healer 46, dps 0. This was an 18 btw

[@Dillisan]

I get that but if it means not dying and the rest of the group are ignorant enough to ignore them, you gotta do what you gotta do.

[@gabriellutz185]

hey, if you have a mouse over macro for your dispell, you can just hover the afflicted soul and click, it's muuch faster

[@Dillisan]

I already do this :)

[@deathblade909]

As someone whos guild doesnheroic mostly . This season dexides to qlso go for KSM as survival. It my third week and im ar 1500

[@Dillisan]

That's awesome to hear, how are you finding it? The community will vote for S3's KSM challenge when it gets closer to the time, I think this is a spec they want to see.

[@00wheelie00]

Dude ... keybind your dispell with a mouseover macro. You should be able to dispell both, but I get how that can be a challenge in a new class/role and you are justified in thinking dps should deal with the second. You just roll the dice when you pug. I havent played my monk for two whole expansion, you inspired me to level it and I'm starting with +2's this weekend.

[@Dillisan]

Dude...it is a mouseover lol, it also has an 8 second CD so yeah. I'm glad I inspired you though, I hope you heal on an Incorporeal week and feel my pain :P

[@00wheelie00]

@@Dillisan I missed that, I heard you say you had to click the mob and then disspell. So you changed it during the week then! I find it hard to follow on youtube movies if people pres buttons on their keyboard or mouse. I'm just watching it for fun. I've used Vuhdo plus mouseover keybinds since it was first release, grid plus mouseover before that. I like that fistweaving is not locked behind a pvp legendary, that was the worst time, since I hate pvp and had to do it to play monk. Thanks for pointing out an excellent mistweaver resource that's really helpfull! Also healed last week on my druid, trust me I felt your pain 🙄 Most of the time I had to do both, the only advantage on druid is hots will give you more margin to do that.

[@Dillisan]

@@00wheelie00 All good I understand. I actually said I had to click on the affix mob and then heal them from the target frame. With my setup, mouseover healing doesn't work though apparently this is something I can enable so I will get on that. Hopefully next week is better ;)

[@EriSenshur]

Screw this Affix, I'm taking this week off, only gonna do raids Last week was bad enough, I don't feel like being 1 shot by bosses in 12s lol. Can't mitigate the stabber in BH which is irritating

[@Dillisan]

Well this was last weeks Affix, this week is easier to deal with :)

[@EriSenshur]

@@Dillisan I'd still rather eat a cheese grater, in 15+ nelth lair's first boss will 1 shot you if even 1 add is up

[@EriSenshur]

@@Dillisan bear in mind I'm only critical bc I've played the game for so long lol

[@Sultan-44]

I healed them with mouseover without the need to click on them. Just mouse over them and and heal them seems working for me

[@Dillisan]

Well like I mentioned in the video, I couldn't do this at the time with my setup. I can now though after turning on the settings within Clique.

[@bryceamas]

Have you ever tried mistweaving instead of fistweaving. I personally have done +19 doing 0 kicky kick stuff, minus RSK for the extra ReM. It's totally possible and the monk is so diverse in it's kit, it's almost it's biggest hindrance. But it looks like you're making great strides and keep it up. I personally don't like Meg's videos because she has blantaly said she hates mistweaving and think it should be done away because it's not how she likes to play. Closed minded person will get a close minded response. I personally think while it has many issues it also has a ton of great things about it. I personally fistweave in raid and do bomb ass heals and mistweaver in dungeons with the smaller group so I can pump harder. While I don't get the extreme highs of SCK into a pack of 15 mobs high, I do have a very consistent and high HPS, that like I've said I've 2 chested +19 doing this before. Monk is a very proactive spec and so there are a lot of things you need to always have going to make sure you're ready for any situation and able to handle it. Also don't forget to use revival more when you need mass healing because it's only a 3 minute CD and you'll definitely get it back, also don't be afraid to use it as a mass dispel at times, just not as often. Have any more questions, feel free to message me, I'd be happy to help you with a different perspective of the MW. I do enjoy the fistweaving playstyle, but it is not the pinicle of healing as some would like to make it out to be.

[@Dillisan]

Hey, I appreciate the comment along with the tips but Fistweaving is how the community wanted me to heal when they voted for it. Had it been decided by me I could change my approach.

[@bryceamas]

Aww so you're doing this because the community voted on it, that's cool. Didn't mean to step on your toes just thought I'd try and let you know there is a different way, and one that might click with you more so than the Fistweaving. But if you can master fistweaving then I'm sure you could do any class given a few minutes to understand it. But keep up the good work. I liked the video and look forward to the next and hearing about your improvements. 1 note I'd give then is just use sheilun's give more often, about every 45 seconds it'll be good enough to be a mini healing CD, and if you let it get to full, it will heal everyone to full easy! It's like having a mini revival while keeping the real one in your back pocket. It doesn't need to be at 10 stacks to be good. And if you're taking lessons over the one that makes them stack faster then you are mostly using it for the buff anyway, but the one that makes a cloud appear every 4 seconds are good for the dungeons with super heavy party damage. Also, something to think about... Have you thought of keeping your talents as is but instead of Rising Mists using Tear of Morning? You can have the whole party with ReM near 100% of the time and it just makes the healing done by your Vivify and Enveloping Mists just hit way harder. And utilizes the free cast of Enveloping Mists from Chi-ji more value too. Also don't forget to spearhand strike or leg sweep too. 1 kick/stun is worth more than most any of the heals. My bad I apologize. You are doing great and keep it up. I'll just watch now.

[@Dillisan]

@@bryceamas Nah it's all good, honestly. I very much appreciate and welcome the tips, just know that U have Autism and ADHD so I struggle to take in new information, especially written lol. Plus I don't like to change things so I will look into the talent swaps you recommended but probably won't change anything... I started this series in season 1 with the BDK (wasn't easy for me), every season going forward is purely voted by the community. Near the end of the season the community will once again vote for next seasons roles (melee/ranged left to pick), then the spec. I wanted to play MW the least but I'm honestly glad they picked it, it's not easy for me and I love the utility Monk brings. Glad you're enjoying, new Episodes out every Friday :)

[@bryceamas]

Of course! I think these are fun videos and it's fun to watch someone learn and grow as well as watch them and learn new things myself. Monk (MW) is one of my favorite class/specs. They are so much fun for all the personal things you can do with them. They have an awesome suite of Dr buttons, 3ish AoE stun/interrupts and don't forget Transcendence! That ability is fun when it comes in handy. Keep it up! I'll keep watching for sure! 👍👍👍 And don't worry about the personal things. You do you and have fun, that's all that matters.

[@adrianunderwood5573]

who is meg? would like to watch the mistweaver guides as well.

[@Dillisan]

Like mentioned in the video, her channel is linked in the description :P

[@billymays9296]

If a player, as a tank or dps, isn't either topping, or competing for the number 1 spot, on dealing with afflicted, then that player should stick to single player games.

[@Dillisan]

I try to cover everything and I'm incredibly competitive with it. Everyone should do the same imo, it's a team effort!

[@samadams2315]

whats the add on he has at @6:21 does anybody know

[@Dillisan]

Which one, nothing sticks out to me? One of my WA's? One that displays my stats?

[@firdatgame]

You can solo 2 afflicted with a dispell. They live for 10 seconds, which means you can dispell both if you're quick. (revival also works)

[@firdatgame]

obviously not saying it's a healer affix, everyone should help, but in a pinch it works.

[@Dillisan]

Yeah with the 8 second CD it's doable but in the heat of the moment I get too flustered. I'll get better :D

[@datmeern8404]

Genuinely curious. Is there a large number of players that take this much of a reserved approach to pushing keys?

[@Dillisan]

What do you mean exactly?

[@datmeern8404]

@Dillisan This isn't ment to be a negative question to be clear. In my case, I like to attempt things I'm not sure I can complete. So I tend to push as high as I can until I hit a wall. I understand that you also have to take the other players into consideration when it comes to success. All in all its been an enjoyable series, keep it uo.

[@Dillisan]

@@datmeern8404 All good, I honestly didn't understand what you meant by it. Do you mean my journey is slow? Episode 1 goes over my background for healing and I'm still new to M+ in general. My DH was done in 2 weeks but that's my comfort pick, MW Monk is really challenging for me :D

[@datmeern8404]

I see. I wasn't necessarily talking about your journey. Just seems people stear away from higher keys because that underestimate what their capabilities are.

[@Dillisan]

@@datmeern8404 Different skill levels and a lack of confidence which I also have. I put myself down a lot and I'm also very critical of my own ability. I know I can push further but I don't enjoy high keystones with pugs. You can get some great groups/players but it's not always the case and can be incredibly toxic.

[@Andarath69]

Never play with Ragnaros players.

[@Dillisan]

You're the second person to mention this, have I missed something? xD I won't pick players purely on there servers though, always willing to give someone a chance.

[@maybeehh4860]

Imagine putting spells on bar instead of using decursive

[@Dillisan]

I prefer mousing over them tbf

[@Kitahand]

Decursive is still a thing?!

[@SkippyTheBeerCan]

Season 3 and afflicted still not fixed in elvui 😂

[@Dillisan]

Yeah don't even go there lol. There was a plater fix for this but it never worked for me...

[@enbeeyo]

It helps to communicate expectations before inserting your key. If you want one of your DPS to consistently help with afflicted, express this right then and there. They might not even be specced for dispelling (!!) It IS pretty typical for "healer mechanics" to be carried by the healer, as that doesn't slow the run down, while a DPS needs to "waste" a global that would've otherwise have gone to damage. Personally whenever I heal I say -I'll take care of "the healer mechanic" (whether that's explosive last season or afflicted this season), but if everyone's low, you better be ready to cover if you want to live.

[@Dillisan]

Even if it is possible for the healer to deal with both, it doesn't make this a "healer affix", that's just a poor way of looking at it. And I did communicate with the group before placing the key, which I also mention multiple times in the video.

[@crispybaconmatters7160]

I hard disagree with this line of thought Enbeeyo. If you have a dispell, and its afflicted week, you are expected to help out and not go full zugzug. It's not a healer affix, at all. Let me know how VP goes for you while you designate it as a "healer affix," cause multiple people are going to die (we have other things we have to dispell there, and we cant cover it at all alot of the time in the first section of the dungeon).

[@WhoMify]

Who's leaving.. Kazzak player as always

[@Dillisan]

I won't comment on Kazzak but I've met all types of butt faces from many servers xD

[@KilianHD]

wat this is push week how can it be hell weird

[@Kitahand]

Do you have dispels? Just curious, not everyone that has them KNOWS they have them >.>

[@COREcasual]

I got ksm season 1 as a healer and the new affixes made me not want to play this season at all. I haven't played wow since season 2 dropped

[@Dillisan]

I kinda wish I healed on something in season 1 to have this comparison, sad you've not played since though cause I'm still having a ton of fun

[@skarb5797]

The biggest issue I’m seeing come up repeatedly in your commentary is one primarily of mentality. There’s a lot of “I can’t do anything for X player” when truthfully you absolutely can. Every stun you deploy (like on those maggot frontals) or interrupt you use (like on withering curse) is healing you no longer are responsible for. You can use a single global (and sometimes an off global) to prevent hundreds of thousands of damage that you would need to spend 5-6 globals to heal up. Keep at it, you’ll get there once you’re more familiar with all the mechs. I’d also stop doing heroic dungeon weekly and world quest stuff asap, you’ll get your sparks just from doing keys and save yourself like 4 hours a week of filler content by just using that time to blast more keys which will drop better gear than any of that.

[@Dillisan]

Pretty sure I only say that a couple of times, it's not a repeat :D. The Maggot frontal for example, I can stun them but fail to do so but it's not MY fault if they stand in the frontal and I can't do anything to heal them through it. The Whither curse I also admit that I failed to interrupt them but again that's not all on me. I point out my flaws because I know I need to improve and it also helps viewers that don't know about these things. There's still a lot I need to do to improve, I am completely new to the spec so this is to be expected. Things will get better :) I have still been doing the Heroic weekly cause my gear is so bad and my luck for upgrades has been awful, so every chance I take it. But this is something I will ditch soon. I already stopped doing the spark stuff as mentions in either this video or the previous, same for the world boss. Time is very limited, I usually only have Wednesdays for recording.

[@skarb5797]

I watched all three of this series back to back before commenting this and heard remarks along those lines at least a dozen times, those were two examples from this video which I thought were particularly salient. But that’s what I mean about working on your mental, healing in this game is entirely a mental game of balancing the things you can and can’t control and understanding the difference. The first step of that is realizing that you probably won’t outheal damage from other people making mistakes, but your toolkit has a LOT more than just healing and if you think about those tools (like your kick, leg sweep, RoP, para) as if they’re major healing cooldowns you’ll find you have to heal a lot less by stopping damage before it happens.

[@maxandsam6487]

sawhen you a healer you have no time some times to do other thing let dispell ghost the dps dont get this if you lett the group get tofar down they wil start dieing i just stopped playing that week it made me so mad a week later im still not wanting to go back and play wow.

[@Dillisan]

I'm sorry to hear but not all groups are like this, there are some great team players out there

[@anonymgrabjrn7456]

first

[@Dillisan]

yes

[@nicimi]

jesus christ - some players are sooo bad

[@Dillisan]

Yup, I'm one of them :P

[@dewittejager]

22:28 what addon is that to make the cam and gear look like that ?

[@Dillisan]

Narcissus :)

[@dewittejager]

@@Dillisan thanks man

[@Swarmah]

for resto druid, a vp 20 with a group that does not dispell was impossible, and made me rage quit, when they blamed me a resto druid unable to deal with a debuff which easily melts people +2x afflicted. I have to use a cooldown for my only spotheal ability, i have to dispell a debuff from player, and then my hots cant heal the second afflicted, cos dispell is on cd.

[@Dillisan]

Yikes, I bet Dragon boss was fun...I can only dream of healing 20's!

[@Swarmah]

@@Dillisan if people know what to do, VP is the easiest dungeon. If people save their defensives for times where its actually needed. VP doesnt have like group damage thru all the dungeon that is significant. For example, if you do hoi, there its hard, because the trash aoes, the bosses aoe, and so many things happening. In VP people pretty much dont have to use defensives at all besides the 2nd boss ( dragon ), and when they use em, which on average at least 2 are for each class, its easy.

[@Dillisan]

@@Swarmah I'll bear that in mind, thanks. I generally dislike VP cause of the Dragon boss in pug environments but I've only experienced lower keys so far, hopefully higher keys go a lot better.

[@Swarmah]

@@Dillisan define low key. :D I have some guildies who refuse to help people with keys, cos they say a +18 is low key, some say even a +20 is too low key for them :D