This WILL Be The BEST Tudor You See Today!

[@adamk8451]

I absolutely love my Pelagos 39 - but if they made a blue version of it I’d be all over it like a dog on a dropped biscuit…

[@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR]

Ooooooo

[@mrmagoo.3678]

I'm a bit 50/50 with the 39 Pelagos, trying to remember why tho lol, think it was the Bezel?.. too many markings, I agree about the blue tho, if they did a different bezel option too I'd sell everything I own to snap one of them up.

[@adamk8451]

@@mrmagoo.3678 It’s a funny one - I personally think it’s the perfect watch for me, but I get that it’s also quite stark and modern compared to the BB. It’s not a universal hit, for sure. But in blue I think a lot of people would go doolally for it….

[@cradd7108]

Tried one on at an AD and couldn't get around the lightness of the watch. Coming from a U1 it felt almost like a toy on my wrist

[@diskobean]

​@@cradd7108yeah I used to own a cheap Wenger that was completely titanium (case + bracelet) and I could NEVER get used to how light and fragile it felt. I've always worn bigger and heavier SS watches so wearing that was an awkward experience for sure. FF by around 10+ years to present time and now I LOVE a titanium watch, after wearing a huge Seiko Turtle 🐢 on a StrapCode bracelet. I have a few titanium watches now, but none have a bracelet, so just the case is titanium. I could never afford a Pelagos, but I'm keeping my eyes on another Maratac titanium watch OR something else with a Ti case & bracelet in the under $1k range. But yeah, if you're used to wearing big, heavy SS diver's watches and then switch to a titanium, you might never get used to it. It took me another 10 years of going back and forth until now and I'm definitely ready for another full titanium watch. Maratac makes amazing titanium products i have LOTS of them, including their LSA 300m and GMT pilot watches) and they make awesome full titanium watches, but ONLY with automatic movements. I'm kinda over the automatic thing (even though I still wear one pretty regularly), but I just want a nice full Ti solar powered watch that's lightweight AND low maintenance!!! And Russ, thanks for another great review and video!!! That Tudor is simply handsome as hell and I would love to own it 😃

[@DisplayKeesBack]

100% with you on this. Ditch the other Tudors, this is it. The best!

[@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR]

Yes Kees!!!!

[@byergo]

Vintage Tudor snowflake blue Subs are some of the greatest watches ever made!

[@hughmckendrick3018]

My wife caught me gazing at Tudor watches in a jeweller's window. Went in and bought me a BB58. So love that woman and watch!

[@michaelcozens7537]

Tiger Concepts make one. I bought one, it’s the dogs danglies and cheap as chips. The website is pants but persevere as it’s worth it. William, the brand owner, will even build you a watch to your own speck if you want something a little different. Of course it’s an homage, but aren’t all Tudors, and it’s homaging a long discontinued model.

[@jetpack9634]

What a coincidence, i just ordered blue 79090 and black 9411/0 on monday, a week ago, it will take a month to get them, but i hope everything will be alright and i will get them eventually

[@johnmonachelli5256]

The date window is reminiscent of Mr pagani's early work

[@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR]

:)

[@vktravellog1242]

Oh man if Tudor brings this back it would sell out so fast!

[@elfo1799]

6:15 true but it would be in a certain way the most NOS look & feel (despite the bezel) of this amazing blue vintage Tudor

[@spencemiller9301]

A baby present. 🌞 I hope this note flies below the radar. I'm thrilled for you and your family. Just a small token of appreciation for the enjoyment you provide. Spence

[@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR]

Spence!!!!! No way! You do enough for the channel as is!!! Appreciate this a lot! It was a decent first night at home ;)

[@spencemiller9301]

Good to hear! Hang in.

[@malakisands8180]

You are the most Interesting and Educational KZbinr. Making watching your videos enjoyable, I don’t know if Willy Wonka is a Influence to you but the way you mix different ways of vocal delivery and color changing in the video are a trip. I am looking at a older Tudor that is a Hybrid Rolex thanks to you. Thanks from America 🇺🇸

[@michaelschultz1104]

The Pelagos is my attainable grail watch!

[@CocoKoi321]

The square numerals WORK with the snowflake hands, also I miss the rose logo and smile text but idk which model that was far back Oh technically speaking isn't the pelegos 39 the remake of this?

[@jimmccaig7946]

BB54 in blue surely. Don’t call me Shirley. Great show yet again👍

[@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR]

Hahahaha

[@chrisbarbz9238]

I second this plea!!! And please let it keep the date complication!

[@Andy5kp]

What a lovely watch! I have the blue BB58 and currently saving for a Pelagos 39. Would get a black P39, or maybe white if they released one.

[@WestCoastAce27]

👍 I have the P39. But would definitely get the white dial with blk bezel option. Would be incredible.

[@finenavaljewelry5798]

For me, the P39 captures the vibe and the spirit of old Tudor (and Rolex) subs. I don't think they need to do a full blown remake, other than a blue/yellowish colourway for the P39.

[@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR]

Need a steel one

[@theestimator]

If Tudor did revise the 39 like you say , block's, fluted, crown guards etc , then there wouldn't be any need to fork out £9000.00 + Excise Duty + Delivery on Chrono 24 to get one, faux patina lume that work's !!!! KILLER for £3000.00 nice ......

[@alexspink4325]

I dunno Russell. Nobody gets every box ticked. Can’t see them putting sub back on the dial, and they’ve parked circles and snowflakes on opposite sides of the black bay / Pelagos property line. I think we’ll get a blue p39 with LHD faux patina, I don’t think they’ll do it in steel 😢 but I do think it’s gonna be a stunna!

[@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR]

Think you are probably right! They can’t make another blue diver in the Pelagos 39 unless it’s the exact colour of the full size Pelagos !

[@Romio666]

What’s the best vintage MN blue ?

[@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR]

Couldn’t tell you my friend

[@Grendal62]

I love the square markers, the color, the bezel. I think eventually we will see a re-release of this, but in a limited run and for a premium 🎉

[@DavidLee-yu7yz]

I so want that watch but I do not have the pocket, unfortunately.

[@justingalore123]

Weirdly I just bought a 94110 (like this with a date!) it’s on the way arriving Tuesday. What are the chances it gets the MWC treatment!

[@ryannewby447]

I honestly don't believe there is anyone else on KZbin who goes so deep into the history of watches and brands. And ultimately makes some of the most endearing content in the watch space. Keep up the amazing work.

[@hektic1017]

TGV does. He is THE horologist.

[@ryannewby447]

@@hektic1017 yeh no bs with Russell though. And slightly more sober and less flexing.

[@draakisback]

You know I like tudor but I have a lot of buyers remorse with regards to my black bay ceramic. It's not because the watch is bad, it's a great watch; it's because the watch hurts my wrist. It's too big, and it's too heavy for my wrist. It would actually work better if it had a proper bracelet instead of a strap because the bracelet would offset the weight of the case. Following that logic, I've tried many different straps with the most comfortable being a rubberB strap (just barely doesn't work). I've owned the thing for roughly a year and I've maybe worn it for maybe 30 hours total. I'm trying to find a place I can sell it but right now the black bay ceramics are not worth much in comparison to a lot of the other tudor models. Vendors like watchbox, only accept tudor for trade ins and my AD offered me 50% of it's value which is the most scummy thing I've ever experienced in regards to watches. I've had my eye on the black bay 54 since it was announced at watching wonders, if I ever get to trade in this watch for a reasonable value, that's what I'm probably going to buy in its place, either that or the pelagos 39.

[@paulgregory2601]

Awesome review, thanks

[@edteach3r]

Beautiful, which is why I have the NTH Näcken Modern Blue. 😊

[@podfuk]

They are so much cooler than the new one, I want them!

[@scottroberts7141]

If they made it I’d buy it, but don’t see them doing it especially as they have just revised the black bay 41.

[@theenavybluemonster]

Agree with you except for the fauxtina.

[@postnick]

See I want a 58, but with white paint not gold… just make a boring black/white/red in 38mm it’s all we want.

[@Dirtywesterner]

somehow this makes my steinhart ocean 39 seem like a good purchase

[@bogrot69]

It's no secret collectors have been waiting with bated breath for a Tudor Subby Re-issue. It's almost as if Tudor is purposely messing with us by releasing watches with a slight resemblance. The FXD being a prime example. Some people were convinced that was the one when early renders were leaked. Heads will explode if and when Tudor decides to wise up. If I had custody of that watch, I'd be heading for Mexico by now 😂😂

[@EFnChris]

Or! They could also be testing the waters for them to drop it.

[@DanCath]

100000% correct

[@alexjones4623]

I love your content so much mate. As someone who is brand new to the watch world it’s nice to watch these videos and get a history lesson on all these wonderful different brands and being helped to understand specs and styles etc… thank you for what you do

[@carlkim2577]

Until then, Steinhart does a very nice homage.

[@edteach3r]

Agreed! It is such a good placeholder that it is here to stay, regardless of what Tudor does.

[@bruh_oly1370]

Nth amphion sub blue may scratch that itch . Although £700 for miyota I’d go see tiger concept

[@skxcellent]

Absolutely stunning! Great video, Russ, thank you! That vintage Tudor is a dream watch for me for sure, and if Tudor were to re-release it (at a price point for us mere mortals) then my wallet will take a beating for sure!

[@fraisernash5656]

I so love this one, comparing the Pelagos just doesn't cut it for me, your bang on with the 58 revamp

[@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR]

Cheers Russell

[@martinharrison4245]

I thjnk that old tudor sub is one of the coolest dive watches ever. It would be amazing , but unfortunately they wont do it . Demand would be huge , but it would hurt sales of their other watches. But we can dream russ !!!

[@WonderWusel]

The christopher ward c60 pro 300 tridents do look more or less like that.

[@lonewolfemcquade8133]

Great show brotha I actually love the folded end link bracelets. I find them alot more comfortable over modern bracelets.

[@austinzizzi1142]

If they could just make the pelagos 39 in a matte dial but no

[@samuelkim2611]

I am not a fan of Tudor, but this old model of Tudor watch changes my mind !!!

[@superdad4324]

This was an awesome experience with this vintage Tudor! I’d love to see some more vintage experiences maybe a seiko ;)

[@frankyf8439]

I was thinking this a lot I’d love this as an ex submariner

[@robertmorano2372]

This is so good looking. I've been looking at a few homage watches lately. Mostly homages of watches that are no longer in production. This would make a beauty homage for something that's not $3-$4k. I love Tudor, but we all know that would be the price if they did make it again.

[@tonygarcia5081]

Is there a difference between 9411/0 and 9411?

[@Tom_H327]

I guess "pristine condition" is MWC code for "dirty, scuffed and scratched to shit and back". 😂

[@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR]

Hahahahaha I’ve got more scratches and war wounds as this puppy has! And it’s older

[@cartoonpete407]

Had a Tudor Mini-Sub in the early days of my watch collection back in the early 90s that came with Rolex parts like this one, but with a racheted uni-directional bezel and sapphire crystal. The lume was gone after about 15 or 20 years. Sold it to another watch collector as I grew out of small watches .

[@kelorednaxela]

Please, no faux patina! Why make a watch that looks old from the beginning?! People in the 50s, 60s etc. were buying new-then watches and were not stuck in some vintage-inspired old times mania. For example, in the 007 movies, James B. always had a modern watch for the time when the movie was made. And the indices should be applied (or at least pressed like on Seiko 5), not just painted! Flat indices make it look cheap.

[@lonewolfemcquade8133]

ABSOLUTELY 💯 AGREE 👍 I can't stand this mustard yellow faux patina trend. I think it looks horrendous. I have no idea why anyone would want a modern watch with faux patina

[@inthecellar5951]

Interesting review mr mwc. The crown guards on those old Tudors are great and make me wish the current models had them… wonder why - is it too similar to the submariners then? Who knows but I’d love a 54 sized Tudor with crown guards! Way more accessible and enjoyable imo!

[@alvinmick218]

I would love to see Tudor do some faithful 1:1 reissues with modern upgrades where necessary. That would be my dream watch.

[@Clambelly]

dude you are crazy, correct and entertaining ! Tudor was always the "poor man's Rolex" ... but there is an opportunity to do somethingspecial. I only hope that the watch would be 44mm - 45mm

[@WestCoastAce27]

Mixed emotions: that is an insane piece of Tudor history, thx to London Guy for allowing you to share it with us. But I’m wearing my P39 and feel it’s Tudor’s Sub. Yes, hoping that in 2024 (updates are done in 2 yr cycles according to my AD so it and the BB Pro will be eligible next yr) the same bright blue as the 42 has comes to the 39. Or a white dial blk bezel P39… Would like the bigger hr markers - that would be awesome.

[@jroobz]

Yeh would be nice. I better join the wait list now then

[@mike8620]

great looking watch. i was on board with the suggestion right up until ‘fake patina’.

[@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR]

Forget I said that then Mike!!!

[@porscheoscar]

Ironic that Rolex decided to use "off the shelf" movements in Tudors since that's literally the entire history of Rolex themselves. Rolex did not make their own dials they outsourced to Beyler. Rolex did not make their own bracelets they outsourced to Guy Freres. They did not make their own winding crowns they outsourced to Bonichini. And of course famously Rolex never made their own movements they outsourced to Aegler, Lemania and Zenith. A watch made entirely by Rolex did not become a reality until 2004 when they just started writing giant checks to buy the companies they'd been buying parts from all along. Similarly Rolex bought Kenissi Manufacture the company that makes the movements for Tudor after ETA got word to Rolex and others that it was cutting off supply of their movements. ETA only supply their movements to the brands within the Swatch group which was actually forced on them by the Swiss government who wanted to keep it a Swiss only club or something. That's a long crazy story in itself. I like the snowflake hand but it seems strange for Rolex to order Tudor to only use snowflake hands on all their Black Bay models. As you noted that's not the history of Tudor. Or is it that they're just banned from using Mercedes hands and using the name Submariner? Either way they should mix it up a bit. The Omega 57 arrow hands or batons would look great on Black Bay. The square hour markers is also great nothing makes me yawn faster than yet another dive watch with round hour markers and no numbers. Too sterile and one dimensional given all the options at disposal. The brand new Longines Hydroconquest for example does a small snowflake hour hand, which is an interesting change up, stick hour markers, a lollipop seconds and arrow for the GMT hand. That's moving the design ball forward.

[@UGA.D]

The closest you can currently get is the Pelagos with the snowflake hands AND square indices.

[@robcameron9351]

Omg that Tudor sub is WILD. Perfect.

[@evyatarsahar]

You can do a review on seiko spb117j1 or outer alpinist?🙃

[@GrumblingForesight]

Would be over the moon if they would but I just can't see Rolex ever letting them do one. Would love to be proven wrong though! Thank you for lovely vid as always, Rus.

[@thakart3]

This would be an awesome release! The closest version is the peligos 39. It would be cool for them to lean in that direction even more when the next version comes out!

[@peakrider4886]

Been patiently waiting for a blue Pelagos 39 which I’m convinced they will do at some point although the colour might not be quite right if it’s the same as the larger 42. I wouldn’t be surprised if they do a blue dial BB54 either at some point which I suspect will be as close to a Tudor Submariner as we’ll get. Rolex isn’t going to let that name be used by anyone else.

[@tacticoolgent1784]

I dig the vintage Tudor with the blue and aged yellow indicators.

[@stefanbede5861]

I have the black 7016/0 without the date from 1974. Love it, but for the money they go for these days has made me thinking of selling it. I really agree with your plea to Tudor though. Would be a great watch.

[@boma23]

I've been waiting for a blue 39mm since it came out. Was literally first thing I thought... at that point I'll have my grail watch.

[@DialsAndKicks]

Yes yes yes and further more Yeeeeeess! Love iiiiit! And I might of said it already 77 great year for that stunning watch!! It’s me birth year and the watch that got me into collecting watches 😍😍 ooh I want his so bad me wallet hurts 🤣🤣 I think we all are waiting for that blue dial snowflake hand Tudor sub with a little hint of patina 😍😍 get in!! Great video my friend ✊

[@mrlex4725]

I don't see Tudor ever releasing a Submariner, they have the Black Bay line and that's their "Submariner ". The next BB58 will probably be similar to the new 41mm and the 54. So hopefully by next year we get to see it. Great video, thank you.

[@inlandwatchreviews5745]

If Tudor would release a new Tudor Submariner, I would sell my watches to buy one.

[@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR]

Me to!!!

[@richardtwyning]

Very nice 👌 To me I get a very sporty modern vibe from it, I'd never guess it was 1977!

[@TheChaz5504]

Great video Russ. If Tudor takes your advice, I’m in trouble 😂

[@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR]

Cheers Chaz!

[@phillipedwards420]

I agree! Bring it back!!!

[@palemale2501]

I would be happy with a Pelagos 42mm (snowflake and block indices) but in a darker blue and stainless steel.and no date.

[@Phil5150Bower]

Now that is incredibly awesome ❤❤❤❤❤

[@Cull_Obsidian]

fun fact: lame turns yellow in the dark and bezels go light in bright sunlight. How can a watch do that at the same time? Well, when isn a watch not an original watch, a frankenwatch if you will 🤔

[@kevinpriestly324]

I've been waiting for Tudor to revisit the blue Tudor submariner for many years They will never give us what we want , that old blue subby is a thing of beauty , I'm close to pulling the trigger on the black bay blue 41 and just be done with it Or the pelagos takes my fancy what do you think

[@STROND]

Such a nice piece ❤

[@daltontrum83]

In all the vids I've seen talking about vintage Sub's, I never knew they had friction bi directional bezels.

[@resjon7981]

They will make it, they must!

[@mariog7213]

Please no more faux patina.

[@drbobsnightmare2521]

Hi Russ, I fell down this Tudor mini-Sub rabbit hole since yesterday. Got any video Ideas to accommodate a mental watch compulsive?

[@marcocastagnetti7086]

Two schools of thought, one the Tudor 58 is the modern sub, or two Tudor could leave this as their ace card for the future.

[@horologyhype]

Couldn't agree more! 👏

[@atabeydr]

Black for BB58, blue for pelagos 39

[@markbowman7240]

great video and i totally agree if they reissued the sub i honestly think theyd push omega in position/ sales

[@carforumwanker]

They where less than £300 new !

[@jaysterling26]

But think - the Pelagos 39 ( closest version today) will be £3 million in 5 years the way inflation's going - better buy now (this message has not been sponsored by Tudor).

[@frank327]

Yes! Everyone wants it - they should do it with the shadow bezel and faux patina. It wouldn't detract from Rolex sub at all, it has such a unique visual identity even with the same case shape.

[@ElderPinto254]

this one is awesome yepp its one of the best tudors i agree... the hour hand is so nice!!!

[@clarencebenjaminlim]

Yes !!! Ive been holding on those Black Bays. To wait for a re-release

[@jorgenvandeburgt8670]

Waiting for the Black Bay 69.

[@Utshka]

I totally agree. A reissue of that Snowflake submariner would be the hit! It will catapult Tudor even further ahead, playing with the big league guys.

[@simsalb]

I think you're on the ball with this one. However creating another waitlist? Nooooo!!! 😯

[@VMIyanks04]

Awesome video! So what do you think of the blue NTH Näcken x WatchGecko that’s pretty much exactly what we’re looking for? It’s got all the right stuff except it’s not Tudor. Do you think homages like that are worth it? Love the channel! Thanks!

[@DavidHolliday]

NTH were recently served a trademark cease and desist by Tudor and have said they will no longer produce the Nacken with the snowflake handset as a result. I have the blue version and it’s a very nice watch, won’t be the same with different hands.

[@VMIyanks04]

@@DavidHolliday Wow! I guess they are starting to crack down on that. Darn! I loved that blue one! I almost bought it earlier this year. Now I wish I had! I looked at their new ones and I don’t like them as much.

[@DavidHolliday]

@@VMIyanks04 What’s interesting is that the Tudor US trademarks are quite recent - approved November 2021.

[@stephenrhodes3916]

They've already done so with the release of the Black Bay 54. I imagine they'll release a number of iterations over the coming years in order to improve it.

[@dillonquick5134]

Yes I agree! However for my bigger wrist I would like it to at least be 41mm minimum with actual drilled lugs.

[@Simonize41]

Here’s hoping you don’t get the call, Russell.😉 “What do you mean you haven’t received the watch? I sent it back via Evri/Hermes a month ago!”😇

[@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR]

Hahahahahaha

[@robh.2400]

Amazing watch! I'd buy a re-release for sure.

[@davemck1887]

I too have a plea to Tudor, give us a freebie, i'm skint 😁.

[@binyard1972]

Bang on the money review im with you 💯 percent really hope they bring it out