This will make a BIG difference when you cut miters/bevels!

Is the router table a better miter/bevel-cutting tool than the table saw?
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[@softxpandguest708]

Could we maybe get a short video on feather boards and how to set them up effectively? I've never seen them before!

[@hymandumas3901]

This old Marine turned wood worker learns more every time I watch one of your videos than I do watching several from other professional wood workers. Thank you

[@MakeSomething]

Now I need that bit! Thanks!

[@artswri]

I find that any angled cuts like these are invariably more challenging than they look. These are great tips for achieving high quality cuts (and are quite nicely safe as well.) Thanks for another video that will directly improve my woodworking skills!

[@jxk7712]

I kinda wish that I was an apprentice in your shop. Excellent video. Thanks

[@silvermediastudio]

Top notch content. Can't get this kind of multi-faceted approach to problem solving in woodworking anywhere else.

[@bradfry5403]

With all the different scenes in this episode it really highlighted how well you edit on your channel

[@brewster84067]

You must be psychic. I was literally struggling with this today in my shop and knew there must be a better way. THANK YOU - can't wait to try this technique!

[@markproulx1472]

Excellent tips here. I also appreciate the fact that you get down to business instead of blathering on like numerous KZbinrs do. Finally, big thumbs up for not playing music during the video.

[@ridercoachdanielle3220]

So much this. I spend an inordinate amount of time watching woodworking vids while I'm working on stuff I haven't yet done well, and I can't hang when the first three minutes are a dude hemming and hawnig about (mostly) himself before he gets his sh together and remembers that his audience came for answers, not so that he could strut and wave his chin around and grace people with his own stream of consciousness. I try so hard to be generous and have some perspective on those ("guy's a woodworker, not a tv host, and he DID put out some free content for me, don't be mean"), but these vids are stll a major breath of fresh air.

[@johndufford5561]

Thank-you. Very well thought out & demonstrated. Love how, when possible, you show multiple methods to achieve a safe & desired effect. Always appreciate that about you videos, James

[@thesweetone]

I've been struggling to do a 30degree perfectly and this opened my eyes to using my router. Amazing as always

[@notasheep199]

I was cutting some miters today on my table saw and was wishing for a better way to get it done. I got a router lift a week ago and ordered the bit 5 minutes ago. I enjoy all of the content you put together and have helped myself and many others enjoy the hobby more than you can imagine. Thanks for the great insights, Mike

[@deadle_]

This kind of thinking is exactly why I subscribe to this channel, James. Thanks for posting, looks like a large 45 router bit is the newest tool on my list!

[@mainemanlooking40]

This video has totally changed how I cut my miters/bevels. I purchased the larger bit and use it with a Rockler coping sled on my router table. It holds the pieces perfectly and cuts the miters in one pass.

[@bearthompson6506]

You always come through to save the day! I’ve been trying to cut a nice long 45° bevel on some pieces of 1/2” plywood for French cleats. I do mostly hand tool stuff so don’t have a lot of experience with my router (table mounted). I figured out my pieces all had humps in the middle of the bevel because the outfeed was no longer flush with the fence by the end. I came here looking for a solution, and lo-and-behold here you are coming to the rescue (and not for the first time). Thanks for all you put into these vids. Cheers 🍻

[@adrianscarlett]

I built a set of bearing guides for my CNC machine for this purpose. I can feed the material in from one end and have the bearings hold the workpiece at both sides of the cutter. Next upgrade is to add a power feed roller to improve surface finish. It's worth looking at canned cycles and macros for smaller things like drawer boxes

[@e.t.preppin7084]

I can honestly say in 35 years I never thought to use a router table or shaper for this. Love it

[@heystarfish100]

Great information and explanations as I’ve come to expect from James. Even though I’m much experienced I oftentimes learn something new or reinforce vital safety lessons from watching your demonstrations. Thanks James for your wonderful content.

[@gabrielkoby6308]

Thanks for all the tips. Don’t do much woodworking, but when I do, your tips make it easier.

[@bretthollenbeck812]

Thank you so much for this video. I’ve been working a box project with mitered corners and have been trying to do them on my table saw. Just can’t seem to get them square and straight. I watched this video and decided to try the router table instead. It worked great! And that tip about attaching the board with double stick tape to be a guide helped a lot! The miters came out square and flush. Thanks James!!

[@dalatina911]

I love how you explain each scenario in detail and how to fix mistakes related to that scenario. I have been trying to learn how to do mitered cuts to make floating box shelves and I keep overthinking everything! I have a router, but not a router table unfortunately! You just earned a new subscriber, thank you!

[@woodworksbygrampies1284]

Excellent video!! I appreciate you taking the time to test options and then sharing your findings. Thanks and have a good one, Adios! 🖐

[@316woodworks9]

Master! Never got a bad tip. Nuance is your talent. You are the best! Thanks

[@garykorzelius5930]

You always add to my woodworking knowledge. Thanks.

[@glencrandall7051]

I don't do many miter cuts but these tips will come in handy for the next time I have to do one. I really like the Hedgehog feather boards but they are expensive. A set of four would be about $160. Of course you could get by with less that that I suppose. Thank you for sharing James. Have a great day and stay safe.

[@jonathanpartsch]

Thanks, Nubs! I ordered a guided 45 degree chamfer bit with cut height of 1" (cut length 1-3/8") based on this video.

[@bobwallace5257]

Great info Stumpy! Love the new feather boards!!

[@sababa1022]

I use this technique to cut miters on the sides on my boxes. I built a small sled with a backer board and clamps to hold the piece in place and use a runner in the miter slot to control the sled. Simple, easy and I can use a stop block to duplicate the lengths. Just slowly raise the bit until the height gets you the cut you want.

[@donalddparker]

Excellent advice I'd not considered. I struggled with my last jewelry box where I put just a tiny bit extra pressure during a few inches on the table saw leading to unclean miters. Definitely give this a try. Cheers!

[@kentgray2220]

Such a timely video. Today, I needed to cut 1/4" x 2-1/2" miters. It took about 2 seconds to head to the router table with the miter bit. I'm a bit right side thinking, so there were a number of test runs prior to cutting the work pieces. Once dialed in, in too all of 3 minutes to cut these perfect miters.... Its the only way I'll do it from here on out.... Thanks

[@rlevitta]

There's a third option for supporting the outfeed side of the material. Some routers have an adjustable fence so that one side of it can be moved forward or back so that it becomes kind of like a sideways jointer. My Festool router table has a micro-adjusting knob to move the right side of the fence back so the left side is more forward and can support the outfeed side.

[@cyrilnorrie8450]

Thanks, James, for another great video that gives an option for a sometimes difficult task. Mitres have unique challenges and this info will be very helpful. I have learned a great deal from you over the last few years. Great job!

[@cindyhammack68]

Fantastic! Never thought of doing that! Thank you!

[@jimadams6159]

I find I learn from all of your videos. You have a great way of explaining things which I am able to understand, being a novice to woodworking. Thanks and keep up the great work. 👍

[@Kenniii3]

Brilliant as always, James!

[@jimanderson4495]

As always….great tips. Thanks James

[@mariushegli]

I have nothing to say really, but I appreciate your content, and wish to help with the yt-algorithms.

[@thomaskirkpatrick4031]

Great idea, never would have thought about using my router table for a 45 degree miter.

[@theofarmmanager267]

Excellent. Problem explained very well and a couple of solutions. I will add one more - and then dismiss it. My Incra table and fence has the option to bring the outfeed part of the fence forwards (or backwards) so that the gap you described (when metering right through the board) doesn’t occur because the outfeed fence supports the, now slightly thinner, timber. However, getting the fence forward by the right amount is not easy and I much prefer that method of d/s tape a longer scrap of wood on top. That should also support the very top edge of the timber/plywood/veneer so that you get a cleaner cut.

[@chrislambert9435]

Thankyou for your presentation , , , Chris , , , Norwich, England

[@Littleshedjoinery]

I’ve shifted from making bevel cuts on the table saw to using my tracksaw and a 90 degree rail guide. Works flawlessly everytime and none of the setup time associated with a router table. It does take a little time to dial in the 45 degree angle on the track saw but once you’ve done it it’s a “set and forget” setup.

[@chrisforker7487]

Great video, this will come in handy on future projects. Thanks

[@tinkeringinthailand8147]

Another professional educational presentation, I love watching your work.

[@libertyvilleguy2903]

Excellent tips, thank you.

[@johnslaughter5475]

Definitely one of your best. Kudos, James. I like the 2nd method, with the guide board taped on, best. This appears to give much more control. The router needs more control. 👌😊

[@andrewj5998]

James, you've been reading my mind this week. I have a 10 inch benchtop band saw that belonged to my Dad that I would like to tune up and make operational again. My table saw and circular saw both scorch hardwoods, even though neither blade has seen considerable use. I mostly use them for ripping down 3/4 plywood. However, I've never cleaned either blade, and they're probably both covered with pitch and plywood adhesive. And I've been putting off making a mitered box because I can't seem to cut a decent 45 with my table saw. Thanks!

[@watermain48]

Great information. Thanks James.

[@unknown-ql1fk]

I'm new to wood working and inherited a router table, never quite knew what to use it for but now I have some ideas. Thanks for the vid

[@StumpyNubs]

You may also like this one: kzbin.info/www/bejne/sIavdJmOh9OijM0 and this one: kzbin.info/www/bejne/n5XXdH6GlLB-a6M

[@MCsCreations]

Awesome tip, James! Thanks a lot! 😃 Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

[@edhalson3154]

Perfect - great video and explanations...thanks!

[@markkoons7488]

Well done, Stump.

[@52memor]

WOW Stumpy I'm so glad I saw this.. Sometimes I need to do this and I hadn't thought of it .. MANY THANKS MERRY CHRISTMAS FROM THE GREAT BRITAIN.

[@bigjabroni7514]

My guy you've got me wathcing woodworking tips which i'll never have the need to use in my life - but your videos are so great and informative and im sure for those in the industry love them! Keep it up!

[@TrevorDennis100]

Woah! Masterful editing James. We could see the workpiece nudge up just as you said the word 'snipe'.

[@robertsmith3518]

Another great YTV ! Thanks for the info

[@billqqq]

Always great tips and techniques!

[@henrysiegertsz8204]

Just superb. Great information, brilliantly presented without fuss or padding! Well some padding, but we all have a little of that here and there?

[@martinwoodworking]

Very good idea for bevels

[@olddawgdreaming5715]

Thanks James. Really good information on cutting angles. 🙏🏻🙏🏻👍🏻👍🏻👏🏻👏🏻✋🏻✋🏻

[@hitechfl]

Awesome video, as usual, thank you!

[@kosinskiarek]

You are one smart cookie sir!

[@J.A.Smith2397]

As usual great advice!

[@tonymarrazzo354]

I love those featherboards - the fact you can adjust them with one hand is awesome. Gotta say tho, all those on your table at one time looks a bit like a medieval torture device! Great video as always.

[@islandcharlie7132]

That is good stuff, Thank you.

[@norm5785]

Great information thank you for sharing this with us, from Henrico County Virginia

[@derekjarman1638]

Great idea! - i'm going to try the router on some small pieces that need 45's 👍👍

[@1954JDR]

Thank you!

[@markduggan3451]

Great information as always.

[@FormerlyKnownAsAndrew]

Looks crispy!

[@kristofervansoelen8327]

We use these exact same techniques almost every day on our Table Saw, and love it. We clamp a special sacrificial fence to the rip fence on the table saw, and angle the blade so that the teeth actually cut into the sacrificial fence. Then we can feed our sock through in exactly the same way you describe with the router bit, but with the speed and ease of set up of a table saw. You also can cut any angle up to 45 degrees, and aren't limited by your selection of router bits. The only issue is that on steep angles there will be a piece of off cut that wants to jam between the blade and the fence. The way to overcome this is that the sacrificial fence needs to have a rabbit cut out of it, large enough that the scrap can fall under the sacrificial fence and not get pinched, but leaving enough that your stock will be supported. This means you will need a different fence for whatever height of material you are using, as you will be feeding your stock along the top quarter inch or so. sounds a little complicated just over text, but it is a gamechanger for sure.

[@lapisredux]

@love the typo...feeding your socks into a table saw would be pretty scary!

[@garybrown7860]

Great information. Love this channel

[@larrymanns364]

I don't even have a wood shop and I want to buy this bit now

[@joshneill6057]

You the man once again! ❤

[@randsipe224]

You are 100% correct. 45’s on the Table saw is iffy. I use a jig for that . With you advice I think I will try the router and 45 bit.

[@bbobba]

Great information

[@robertrohler3644]

good info thank you

[@whatworkedforme]

great video with a science approach.. i.e. reasons rather than tradition or guesswork.

[@chrisswartzwelder8494]

I use my shaper with a power feeder to cut my 45s and it works great nice clean cuts every time.

[@danyodice1048]

Great info as usual...🤘🤘

[@dpmeyer4867]

Thanks

[@sapelesteve]

Another excellent and informative video SN! 👍😉👏

[@gregj2647]

Good information

[@Ty-bz7zx]

Fantastic info and techniques, big router bits can be intimidating and scary =) I made a miter sled for the table saw and have had perfect miters ever since with no worry of losing fingers or chunking my pieces if there are any imperfections in the wood etc... I probably need a better router table tbh... Thanks and keep the great content up!

[@wolfman75]

Thanks!!! 👍👍

[@lemagreengreen]

Yeah, bought a big 30 degree bevel for this purpose and it's pretty perfect despite not being the most expensiv bit to begin with. Great for making hexagonal hollow ylinders to round on the lathe.

[@realpdm]

I ran into that snipe problem trying to make some custom domino/loose tenons. When I'd do the 2nd side the round over would remove enough material that the tail end would flop into the router bit too deep. Thank you for these tips!

[@v8trauma]

"Stumpy, how many feather boards do you need setting up for the shoot today?" YES!

[@StumpyNubs]

They make a big difference, especially on long workpieces of for repeated cuts.

[@v8trauma]

@@StumpyNubs oh I know, saved my bacon more than once.

[@e.t.preppin7084]

Miter saw for sure on mounding 45’s and miters.

[@silknfeathers]

I use the (Festool) tracksaw whenever possible. So long as you dial your angle in well, perfect cuts, every time. I've used the router when mitering end cuts, however.

[@randsipe224]

A thought…. Cut the bulk of the 45 on the table saw, then refine on the router table.

[@pixelkatten]

As someone who has access to a jointer but not a tablesaw or a router table, I've never had this problem. Just set the fence on the jointer correctly and push your board through!

[@bofadeeznuts469]

That bit damn near made me chub up a bit lol. That’s a big hunk of metal

[@davidshirk2024]

I find your videos both entertaining and helpful. Thank you! Would individually adjustable entrance and exit portions of the fence help with this problem?

[@jamisonr]

When you showed the bit, I thought, it looks like a Whiteside, I sure hope it is because that's what i use!

[@agoogleuser1594]

I was running into the same issues on the table saw. I eventually solved it by buying a track saw. Pricey but a worthwhile investment.

[@jeffb5858]

I guess for narrow pieces you could use a coping sled that clamps down the piece? Seems like that would help a lot

[@davidshaper5146]

I've never used the feature, but I can move my outfeed fence to support the cut edge. I think a lot of good fences can do this.

[@stephanieray6587]

Ok now I have to finish my router table & lift.

[@JakeRaytheRounder]

That nasty tear out!

[@taliamon]

The hidden gem: Combining the clamps and hedgehogs for a down-pressure feather board. ... Really need to add those to my tool set; my big box brand feather boards are such a pain to use. It looks like you tend to use four, any reason a home shop would need more than that?

[@StumpyNubs]

I don't think I've ever used more than four at a time.

[@jonathanpartsch]

I don't understand why he used the quick clamps instead of the knobs like are on the table surface. It looks like the router fence has T-track too, so why no knobs on the fence? Anyway, I am maybe going to get some of these hedgehog feather boards myself. Usually two of the "standard" style feather boards are sufficient - three if you have one on the other side of the bit. I think he may be using four due to the lower amount of contact area that these hedgehog boards provide vs. the standard style. Maybe someone will confirm or correct me if I am wrong.