Regarding open drives and clean rooms. Back in the early 80s I was a repair tech for a computer manufacturer. I helped train new techs. We had a 10 meg hard drive from which we removed the cover to show new techs how these drives worked. This was a time when one could still smoke at their desks. We used to flick cigarette ashes onto the spinning platters of the disk and watch the heads fling the ashes off the platters. That disk ran for the entire 2 years I worked at the factory and never once had a failure. Those were the fun days of computer repair.
@tarstarkusz7 ай бұрын
I've actually found that the main obstacle to opening and then resealing a hard disk is the torque of the fasteners. Always try to establish what the torque is before opening. If you torque the screws back to what they were, it almost always works.
@nickwallette62017 ай бұрын
Great, now your test HDD is addicted to Nicotine. ;-D BOOT FAILURE Insert a stogie to continue
@raphi_sch7 ай бұрын
For a school project, I open and REPLACED the top cover with acrylics panel. The HDD worked fo all demo I did. It was a 6.4Gb IDE drive.
@nohesiloli7 ай бұрын
I am 27 years old, this is the coolest thing I have ever heard. I always used to open up my failing hdd's for fun when I was like 12 :p
@neilcoo7 ай бұрын
I doubt if that would work these days. The information density on the disk was a whole lot less then than it is now. (10 MB over a whole disk vs 10TB today). Basically a bit occupies like a few atoms now, so very easy to obscure with particles of crap.
@donwilson7 ай бұрын
I've never seen anyone repair a flat flex cable before, this channel continues to be one of the very best on KZbin.
@tarstarkusz7 ай бұрын
That's because, in general, there is no reason to ever fix one because replacements are available. This fix is not going to last. He needs to use wires.
@escapetherace19437 ай бұрын
I've done it. People say it is impossible but it isn't if you can isolate the wires inside. Giant pain though
@XinmingChen7 ай бұрын
It is a common practice for Apple emate because the ribbon cable is prone to damage. I think Colin has talked about this in his emate video.
@rich10514147 ай бұрын
I have many times. Just use magnet wire to jump past the damage. Removing the plastic coating can be an issue with some flat flex cables, but it's not impossible. A razor blade is good enough for most, but if really delicate, steel wool is a better option.
@tarstarkusz7 ай бұрын
@@rich1051414 Yeah and this repair will never hold up. He needed to do it with wire.
@Mr.OCanada7 ай бұрын
I'm one of your Patrons and I watch almost every video. The cadence of your tone and camera work is great. Thanks for showing all the hardware from the past, I find them relaxing and informative.
@donkimble7 ай бұрын
This is the clearest, most concise old computer repair channel on KZbin. It would have been easy to drag this out, but it’s just not his style. Respect.
@alexrosenberg_tube7 ай бұрын
PenMac. They built so few of these. Amazing that you got your hands on one. This project shutting down is what eventually led to Graphing Calculator, which has it's own amazing story.
@JTCF7 ай бұрын
This is exactly the kind and level of tinkering around I love.
@mikeselectricstuff7 ай бұрын
When repairing a flex you should put a wire across, as a solder-only joint is extremely weak and will snap easily
@sebastianlarrivee440026 күн бұрын
Yeah. I typically see the repairs done with thin gauge magnet wire soldered across the break, and then covered in soldermask for extra support
@FriesOfTheDead7 ай бұрын
It's rare that youtube recommends something new that is actually good. Today was one of those rare days.
@Psythik7 ай бұрын
Welcome to the channel
@csciacchitano7 ай бұрын
Welcome. Consistently great stuff here.
@Toonrick127 ай бұрын
If you're interested in Apple while Jobs was gone, you're in for a ride.
@warderjack7 ай бұрын
Welcome, he’s got a great backlog of videos like this
@BardicRJ6 ай бұрын
AYOOOOO!!!! Been watching him for years dude, nice to see you in here!
@tonycosta33027 ай бұрын
The sound of that Connor hard drive brought back some memories. I had the same drive in my MacSE.
@Collinormous7 ай бұрын
I'm not even joking when I said I had a HDD in a 286 Samsung laptop that had the gasket fail and get sticky goo over the top platter. Deciding the drive was toast and I had nothing to loose I washed it...with water and soap...then blew dry it with compressed air. Put it back together and it literally booted up. Scandisk did show a few bad sectors but the drive worked enough to explore.
@superJK922 ай бұрын
Luck 100
@LaskyLabsАй бұрын
Bruh
@XerShadowTail7 ай бұрын
I really love how you are very delicate and procedural with repairs for vintage electronics and not just doing whatever might work! Awesome work!
@chriswareham7 ай бұрын
Ooh, cliffhanger ending! Looking forward to learning more in a future video.
@cpeak667 ай бұрын
I consider myself quite an Apple geek and am rarely surprised by stuff but WOW, I'd never seen anything like this! Keep up the amazing work!!
@eCoLL777 ай бұрын
Great video - never seen anything like that before. Somehow I miss the sounds of hard drives but then I realise the speed and storage limitations from back then, and I'm happy we have SSDs now!
@cyberyogicowindler24487 ай бұрын
Harddrives die if dropped (else can last many decades). But SSD die already when left unpowered for few years (the more writes, the faster) because they are DRAM with 1 year refresh rate. So with any nowadays tablet or laptop it is unlikely to recover any of its data when found on an attic only 10 years later.
@bigmclargehuge11707 ай бұрын
Hey, you don't need a whole clean room to do hard drive repair safely, a laminar flow hood will do just fine. Especially for older drives, you can cheaply DIY one with a Corsi-Rosenthal box.
@danielktdoranie7 ай бұрын
Yet his repair worked fine
@bigmclargehuge11707 ай бұрын
@@danielktdoranie Yes, thankfully! One can make sure the repairs stay working fine by whipping up a quick laminar flow station for cheap!
@nickwallette62017 ай бұрын
I don't have any Corgi-Rosincore boxes. Will an Amazon one do?
@bigmclargehuge11707 ай бұрын
@@nickwallette6201 Sure, you can substitute the corgi with any terrier breed of similar size, and pine oil can be used in place of rosin.
@nickwallette62017 ай бұрын
@@bigmclargehuge1170 Haha :-D Thanks for playing. 👍
@AaronEiche7 ай бұрын
This was absolutely fascinating, and I'm delighted you took the time to cover the repairs and solutions required. I'm eagerly awaiting part 2!
@guardianbob7 ай бұрын
there were a couple of times when i thought "holy shit he's actually going to do that". Respect for doing everything possible to fix it.
@piero_757 ай бұрын
You continue to make absolutely the most compelling and best edited repair videos I've seen on youtube.
@surejan77877 ай бұрын
For anyone wondering what this is, it is an early Apple PenLite prototype.
@thelegendaryckКүн бұрын
Ive seen a slighly less sketchy cable fix where they cut it a little more to ensure no contact, tape/glued it for rigidity, then added wire from a cm away on each side after scraping the coating off like you did but away from the damaged area
@RobertBoerner7 ай бұрын
In my opinion, this was a beautifully done video. Excellent story telling combined with excellent detective work. I very much look forward to the next installment.
@Bushidounohana7 ай бұрын
One wow after another in this go-round, great show as always, Colin! Such an incredible find and ninja-level repair mastery, such a pleasure to watch you work!
@markhuebbe7 ай бұрын
I love this deep dive. Thank you for all the work you do. This is one of the best vintage channels on KZbin and I get excited every time a new episode comes out. 🙏
@schvabek6 ай бұрын
I do electronic repairs as a hobby on my channel, so I can’t tell you how many times projects like this go wrong, how time and labour intensive and nerve wracking they can be. Sourcing parts (especially for a freaking prototype tablet!!!), troubleshooting, brainstorming ideas… Very impressive, and the video itself is awesome! Respect! ❤
@toasTr0n7 ай бұрын
Thanks for having us along on your adventure. This must have taken months to plan, acquire the hardware, execute, shoot, write, and edit. I'm amazed at your level of detail and storytelling ability, and the subject matter is just enthralling. I'm glad this prototype found its way to you and I can't wait for the next video!
@OCDRex117 ай бұрын
Been watching you for years. I love every video and topic. This though, this was my favorite to date! I would have never seen this had you not done this work and jumped head first. Thanks for sharing with us all!
@wojiaobill7 ай бұрын
Colin really demonstrated his knowledge with this one. Great video.
@termiterasin6 ай бұрын
Amazing process restoring and documenting retro hardware.
@signorelephant5 ай бұрын
Amazing work. Clear that you are a professional. Seeing the mess when you opened it up would probably scare off 80-90% of people immediately. A delicate procedure putting humpty dumpty back together again for sure.
@viceroy77927 ай бұрын
That was great! I’d forgotten about those awesome old Powebooks! I had owned several of them including a Duo. I was so proud of that thing. Those were great days!!
@D4RKV3NOM7 ай бұрын
Dude this channel is great! the cinematography is crispy as hell and the quality of knowledge and content is of a high calibre, really good stuff dude!
@FinalBossOfCanada4 ай бұрын
Ad Hoc is a term derived from Latin that means "For This" or "For This Situation." In the context of technology and computing, "Ad Hoc" refers to solutions that are developed specifically for a particular problem or task, without considering broader applications.
@LightTheUnicorn7 ай бұрын
Great work! I had a drive from an Amiga fail in the way you described, throwing sticky goop all over the platter and drive internals. It spun up, but there was no saving it as a working drive, never got a good read from it after that. What an amazing opportunity to work on such a machine!
@TheRealWulfderay7 ай бұрын
That is simply amazing. I've repaired flat flex cable before, but I had never heard of the trick with the hard drive. Something to add to my toolbox!
@cheetosthrash7 ай бұрын
your repair videos are absolute golden. keep up the good work, man
@92trdman16 сағат бұрын
Mad respect for the effort, The proto-type successor (with keyboard and track-ball) was use in the 1995 movie called "Hackers"
@SarahKchannel7 ай бұрын
An old trick with stuck drives is, to put them in the freezer over night. The cold sort of deactivates the sticky mess and if heads stuck the thermal contraction loosens them up.
@Sashazur5 ай бұрын
I would think a big danger here is that when you take it out of the freezer, it could get moisture condensation on any of the circuitry that’s not inside the sealed drive part.
@Ojisan6425 ай бұрын
This was the most difficult repair and restoration I’ve ever seen. Amazing job!
@alexis0a7 ай бұрын
This is one of the most interesting videos about prototypes I've seen, you made an incredible work fixing it and archive all that you can, so great!
@hisnameisjoel6 ай бұрын
I don't think I've ever been so invested in old hardware! Thank you so much for putting this all together
@mac27collection7 ай бұрын
It's nice to see a flat flex cable repair be *successful* for once, seems that more often than not they go awry. Awesome episode, can't wait for next week's! And congrats on 400K 🥳
@Toonrick127 ай бұрын
Next stop, 800k!
@veccio7 ай бұрын
*Bows down to your classic PowerBook logic board and spinner hard drive knowledge* Absolutely loved this! I was on the edge of my seat watching the flex cable repair, but figured if you had attempted it, you knew what you were doing. :)
@GeekmanCA7 ай бұрын
This reminds me a lot of the Modbook. For those who don't recall, a little over a decade ago, a company called Axiotron offered a kit (or service) to convert stock Core2Duo MacBooks into reversed touchscreen models just like this. They were fairly popular for a time.
@Raptor50aus7 ай бұрын
Thanks for the ride down memory lane when I worked for Apple in Australia. I do remember this prototype being talked about too.
@edblor7 ай бұрын
As always Colin, great video, the nostalgia runs deep on this one too. Looking forward to the next one.
@Natervader137 ай бұрын
Your work continues to amaze.
@bobweiram63217 ай бұрын
I wonder why Apple doesn't have a gallery museum of all their products.
@thomasandrews93557 ай бұрын
i repair vintage macs professionally, internally they do in some departments.
@davewhite71827 ай бұрын
They did and Jobs threw it out when he returned. He believed in the future and not the past.
@tatianaes33546 ай бұрын
@@davewhite7182just recently, Cook reiterated this stance
@Sashazur5 ай бұрын
I worked at RCA in the 80s at the lab that developed color TV among other things. They had an actual museum on site, it was very cool. Even the ceiling light panels were shaped like old TV screens. But it wasn’t usually open to the public.
@old_liquidАй бұрын
@@davewhite7182but without the past there is never be future. He is wrong.
@GreenAppelPie6 ай бұрын
that actually quite interesting for a '92 device, portable computing was barely a thing back then.
@carsonwalker567Ай бұрын
Loved seeing the work done on this cool machine!
@ethanlittle7767 ай бұрын
I love these repairs. This is exactly what I like to do in my free time. Just did similar on a G3 Clamshell
@hidde16267 ай бұрын
Awesome repairs. I respect that you had the courage to work on this prototype hardware.
@mmkf7 ай бұрын
I would recommend ddrescue instead of dd if you are not sure about the condition of the drive.
@JHMBB27 ай бұрын
Dude, dude...impressive work, simply amazing. I'm stunned. Thanks for sharing, the vids not over yet and I can't wait to see the end result but that flew cable fix was just insane. GAH a cliff hanger?!
@ronavitzur21677 ай бұрын
Oooh! I worked on software for that. We were trying to build an iPad out of 1992 technology. Good times!
@ThePrimaFacie7 ай бұрын
This is a really well made video. Thanks for it. You could do a short on taking apart the HDD and blur the disks out cause that part was pretty interesting. So much work and problem solving done. I look forward to the next one.
@GrnArrow0923 ай бұрын
Seeing a working prototype of anything is an interesting thing to see. it shows where they are in the development stage and gives a few hints on what they were trying to accomplish. I can't help but think that this prototype is most likely an ancestor to the modern day iPad.
@james-d-mills7 ай бұрын
This is genuinely one of the most interesting videos I've seen in a long time, thanks Colin!
@stuffwhy35017 ай бұрын
Incredible drive repair! Incredible work overall, but also that in particular
@richardbaker9747 ай бұрын
Best video this year from TDNC
@GarthBeagle7 ай бұрын
Dang, great work!! And congrats on hitting 400K subs 🎉
@markredf1507 ай бұрын
Awesome video! You really did have plenty of tricks up your sleeve and got results!
@GameInterest7 ай бұрын
I hope this video gets you to 1M. I love this.
@kerryhall4 ай бұрын
Dude your hd fix is absolutely insane. Wow!
@felixman96917 ай бұрын
I AM SO excited to learn the history of this thing in your next video. This was a fantastic project thanks so much for sharing!!! Inspirational
@Matichuu7 ай бұрын
Thank you for your work. One can learn a lot of about maintenance and repair from this video alone.
@mason.alexander327 ай бұрын
Hahaha the alliteration at the end!
@veitjacob97647 ай бұрын
That was very interesting and your skills are impressive!😮
@insanelydigitalvids7 ай бұрын
Wow! Wow! Wow! What an incredible piece of Apple history. My thanks to Colin and the lucky owner that we could get to see this. 🙂
@LangleyNA7 ай бұрын
Very good, This Does Not Compute. I am excited for any following coverage you share. :) Your videos are always wonderful for me. :)
@rollingtroll7 ай бұрын
Dude. You are good at this stuff, it's honestly impressive.
@EvexiansVideoworks7 ай бұрын
AYO NO WAY. YOU HAVE ONE OF THEESE?! Edit: (NAH, SCREW THAT, HE HAS MORE THAN ONE!!!!) I thought theese were all just.. concepts!! I never knew they actually existed! Dude you matermind! How did you get this?!
@quantumphaser15 күн бұрын
Ahh SCSI. Here's an old IT joke from the 90s we said a lot. System Can't See It
@The_Traveling_Clown7 ай бұрын
😢 I wish I had this man's troubleshooting skills. Might actually be able to fix my U-Matic player.
@pierickroux18917 ай бұрын
Great episode ! I love the investigation you made to fix it ! Wow !
@jerrymoreno17147 ай бұрын
Such an interesting dive into all that could’ve been from Apple in the 90s. Another great video from an awesome channel!
@JacobHunt047 ай бұрын
Dang, leaving us on a cliffhanger! I can't wait! I loved the hard drive segment. Joining patreon because of this one.
@iiidiy7 ай бұрын
Great save on this one! Such a cool piece of Apple's history, and now I CAN'T WAIT for the next instalment! :)
@Ultimatebubs7 ай бұрын
You are a bold man, trying to power on a one of a kind prototype like that without checking the system board for bad capacitors!
@howardbaldwin12267 ай бұрын
Another fab video! Thank you for making these captivating stories.
@digitalrampage7 ай бұрын
Never connect power to a Duo before a recap. They leak so bad (particularly the 270c) connection to power destroys the circuit. Additionally only use newer power adaptors like from the powerbook or iBook G3 (clamshell) as there is a large RIFA in those original power supplies that will go up like a Christmas tree
@noseotter-012 ай бұрын
This is a GREAT video. Spellbinding. Thank you
@RetroMacCast7 ай бұрын
This is amazing! Congrats on getting your hands on such a treasure!
@stephenhood29486 ай бұрын
Reminds me of my Kyrocera QCP-6035. That thing was so advanced for its time.
@kjamison59517 ай бұрын
“If you like the video, I’d appreciate a thumbs up.” Oh, you got the thumbs up BEFORE I watched the video. Your content is awesome.
@woodengamer7 ай бұрын
I remember seeing this, glad you got so far with it!
@antcosentino272 ай бұрын
i find it reassuring that even a company like apple has prototypes that are as hacked together as my own... and kudos to you for this video - some serious electronics and embedded system development skills here.
@Derpy19697 ай бұрын
Excellent use of ancient product knowledge to glean design clues to restore functionality.
@ConsolesRetro7 ай бұрын
Machine qui amène à l’inspiration 😄 (après un « sofa wine » ^^)… Un travail de qualité, une voix off nette sans superflu tout comme le travail effectué sur cette « drôle de bête »! Merci pour le partage et du temps consacré pour monter vos vidéos… 👍
@TweeterMan2877 ай бұрын
I have a Powerbook Duo 2300c of which I was recently able to get the original hard drive backed up for personal archival. It once belonged to a long time Motorola employee.
@marcusdamberger7 ай бұрын
I wonder if this was ever shown at any conventions such as WWDC or CES. Maybe only shown to people who had signed non-disclosure agreements, if so might explain why nothing written about it or any old video? It would be cool if there was a video like from Computer Chronicles from the time.
@NiallMurphy7 ай бұрын
This is a masterwork.
@gdutfulkbhh75377 ай бұрын
Showing off some great skills there. Very informative - thank you.
@dus10dnd3 ай бұрын
Instead of opening the drive, you could twist the drive. It won't feel like it has moved at all, but that small amount of flex could release the actuator.
@TechwithStefan7 ай бұрын
amazing work!
@duncan-rmi7 ай бұрын
those bendy pcb cables crop up a lot in portable video gear from around that time, & I had to mend loads in sony vx-1000 dv camcorders. nice work. >looks at ipad< we've come a long way.
@duncan-rmi7 ай бұрын
one of the small flotilla of ipad minis that my kids use- I've repaired it six times. each time I pry the shattered glass off another busted digitiser, I write the date on the shielding plate underneath. 😂
@Toonrick127 ай бұрын
So what is this? Some sort of Powerbook Duo that's a tablet? The date codes do line up to other experiments at the time from Dauphin and Samsung. The 16mhz 68030 is also a dead giveaway considering that aforementioned examples used similar speced 386's.
@thecorruptedbit55857 ай бұрын
possibly a Penlite prototype
@10p67 ай бұрын
Around the same time Atari was working on the 'ST Pad'. Same external developer maybe?
@ukmk3supra7 ай бұрын
I'd contact Androda re the flat flex cables, he's made a few for other systems, powerbooks mostly - they look simple enough to replicate.