How The Hells Angels Actually Works | How Crime Works | Insider

[@underduckbro]

I wish they sent undercover police to investigate politicians

[@mr.voidroy6869]

Unfortunately, the founding fathers were smart enough to make checks and balances but not for themselves

[@wolfumz]

Its kind of amazing. The entire criminal justice system runs while a well-oiled machine when it comes to convicting drug crime. Any drug crime, the whole system works in perfect harmony, like it was made for the purpose. But sex crimes? Political corruption? White collar crime? Suddenly, the justice system grinds to a halt. The justice system is totally ineffective when it comes these crimes. 98% of perpetrators of violent SA never a see a day in jail. But you better pray you're not a destitute drug addict, because the full weight of the law will come down on you.

[@jensgronning4436]

They do.

[@anarchocyclist]

Ohhhh snap good one bro that's so tough abd smart abd cool

[@hadrakir4098]

Off you go.

[@JonnyBGood184]

The book is absolutely brilliant. I read it a few years ago and couldn't put it down. The ATF should be ashamed at what they've done to Jay,he gave up his life for that investigation and they hung him out to dry. A shocking betrayal.

[@BraveClam]

The ATF is literally an embarrassment, and that's why those dingleberries need to get dispersed. They overstep their boundaries.

[@damiandraven4537]

Yea it didn't tell about how much he lied and why he was kicked out of the investigation

[@steverobertson6393]

@@damiandraven4537 Where can we corroborate that idea / story? How do YOU know he lied? Is it obvious? Maybe his book is ridiculous and exceptionally intelligent people can decipher the truth from fiction. Don't know. Haven't read it. But for those who want to believe you over Jay, how do they know you are right?

[@roooooin]

I didn’t know that part of his story yet. I should definitely get my hands on that book somehow. Anyone know if there’s an ebook version available?

[@chevy4x466]

@@damiandraven4537 the atf agents always lie to get the….

[@Tipa_B]

I read this mans book almost 10 years ago. It was a phenomenal book and a great insight both into the friendships formed in the Hell's Angels as well as the failure of the ATF. If I recall correctly, one HA member refused to believe "Bird" was an undercover agent until he took the stand to testify, cuz he considered him a close friend. The book is 100% worth a read.

[@unboxingbraxton2084]

Whats the book called mate

[@Twm532]

@@unboxingbraxton2084 No Angel

[@tomtemple69]

The whole ATF agency is a failure, they need to be disbanded and everyone in it jailed

[@kolisnykizer]

I’m gonna pick that up. Thanks for the rec.

[@takuma359]

@repentandbelieveinJesusChrist1metaphorical madness u got there cuh 🔥 🔥 you should do rap on jah 🌋🔥🗽🗽

[@lostwizardcat9910]

I grew up around hells angels, by the age of 10 i knew the sergeant at arms, treasurer, and president of the local chapter. My father ran around with them for years, he never got patched in, despite it being offered multiple times. He refused because of me. He always told me "Its the clean cut ones you need to watch." The man that wears a button up shirt, with real nice hair and no tattoos in a group of "biker" looking guys is the most dangerous man in the group.

[@themetkaf]

why?

[@lostwizardcat9910]

@@themetkaf Because they're the ones with things to really hide. Not to mention because out of the entire group the cops aren't going to look at the well dressed guy with a nice job first. They'll look at him close to last because all of his buddies with gang tattoos and a petty rap sheet 3 miles long fit the bill more than him.

[@sun-p6g]

I used to get my gear via them in the 1980's. They invited another group of bikers out into a forest for a "chat" over a stabbing. This was in england. There was a newspaper story about some one being shot in the legs with a shot gun. They did not mention the meat clever incident. i got a phone call about going fishing at the docks. We drove srtaight through the gates unchallenged, directly to a shipping container which was cordoned off and there was a customs man there with a handgun guarding it. i was that non badged clean cut guy you are talking about. If they wanted those guns, all they had to do was put their cards on the table.

[@chrislaverick6413]

Why is that?

[@sun-p6g]

​@@themetkaf Every church has its chapter. The word chapter also appears in 'freemasonry' They claim america was built on freemasonry. It is a form of statistical manipulation. I found out about hells angels via tv when I was still at school. I did not know what chapter is. No one told me. i was being exploited the same way as everyone else. It got people killed.

[@yuordreams]

You can tell it's difficult for him to talk about his family and his betrayal. I feel for him.

[@brandondixon207]

Sounds real comfortable to me

[@jeffhoffmann3620]

Crappy...two faced garbage ..laughable ..law enforcent..been corrupt for decades.🤔😠

[@bryonkidder6199]

He's trying to keep all his lies straight...lol

[@johnsonofthunder1026]

Spies are the lowest form of life though . 👿

[@Burzurk1987]

I don’t feel for him at all. He is a walking paradox. He wanted to have his cake and eat it. He wanted the glory of being in the Hells Angels and at the same time make himself out to be some kind of hero cop who bravely sacrificed himself to uphold the “law”. He didn’t care that he betrayed his own family, otherwise he would have never taken that stupid undercover assignment which turned out practically nothing.

[@DioDiablo702]

This is the type of journalism we should be seeing on mainstream media. Hopefully there's more to come.

[@sicksparrow7023]

Insider is fairly mainstream. Owned by a big, multinational media company. It's pretty far away from guerilla journalism...

[@angelozachos8777]

@DioDiablo This type of journalism is Bread & Circus stuff 😂 Are you for real ?

[@davidmackii1513]

It is national geographic channel!

[@djh4328]

Arkansas

[@apokalypthoapokalypsys9573]

James O'Keefe does it.

[@assembled1855]

Bring him for rating Motorcycle Club scenes from Movies and TV shows

[@Daniel-uj1nu]

Amazing idea

[@SidewaysBurnouts]

make him dress up like a rat and eat rotten food in the dark for a contest.

[@musicalnotextr]

Literally it would just be 'Sons of Anarchy' and 'Mayans M.C.' clips. Okay, maybe the Serpents from 'Riverdale' or the One-Eyed Snakes from 'Bob's Burgers'.

[@westoneuler4065]

@@musicalnotextr nah those would just be the only ones that might be close to reality, bikers are constantly in media just horribly misrepresented.

[@TheCanadianWeeb5]

please do

[@MrJRW1]

The Hells Angels story about how you managed to infiltrate the club is one of the most incredible stories I’ve ever seen. Very few people would have the necessary skills to handle playing a role like that. It’s not like the Hells Angels aren’t cautious and aware that law enforcement is always trying to get in. Just insane to even try it. I can’t imagine how stressful and scary it must have been at times.

[@puertogreekn8675]

Balls of steel for real

[@deecee2174]

Ive met a handful of members from working in the oilfield... An HA member will NEVER straight up tell you theyre a memeber... you put 2 and 2 together and figure it out Alot of HA guys are good too, they dont pick fights with locals or cause harm. I respect the HA theyve always been good to work with

[@theeyehead3437]

@@deecee2174 What do you mean they never tell you they're a member? Their whole thing is that they wear jackets with the name printed in bold letters

[@beangaloot5]

their "whole thing" is what? something you've seen on tv or youtube, I'm guessing .. @@theeyehead3437

[@thedripdrop9826]

​@@deecee21742 and 2 together like looking at the huge patch on their back? They ain't in hiding, chief

[@paulthomasmiller1842]

My dad (deceased) was a club president (not the angels) during the biker wars of the 70s. I could write a book about what I witnessed and what my dad told me. I remember during High School watching him on the local news with the mayor, chief of police and the president of the rival club. Crazy times.

[@yeh.80]

Wow, history is amazing. How do you think this has affected your thinking in life?

[@plark7323]

My father was in one in the bay area in the 70's and 80's and the whole complex we lived in was members and the apartments across the street were memebers.... until one day a gun fight broke out then my pops said its time to get my family outta here. Crazy times

[@paulthomasmiller1842]

@@yeh.80 great question. At one point in my teens my dad made it crystal clear that the club was his family. So I knew that lifestyle wasn't for me. My dad eventually had to go into hiding shortly before he died from ALS. I should also say that I was always treated with the highest respect from the club and other bikers.

[@Jakem763]

What was your dads name?

[@paulthomasmiller1842]

@@Jakem763 going to have to pass. Sorry.

[@thomaslove6494]

Just imagine being one of this dudes best friends in the gang ... Thinking you've got one of the greatest bonds with someone and then one day the cops bust in your door and arrest you... Then you realize it was your "best friend" who is a cop that turned you in.

[@DjDolHaus86]

That's literally the plot of Donnie Brasco, good film, well worth a watch

[@bigredracingteam9642]

These biker gang fellows betray their so-called "friends" all the time. I have zero sympathy for these people.

[@thomaslove6494]

@@bigredracingteam9642 I wouldn't say I have zero sympathy... At least for all of them anyway... I'm sure there are a few real pieces of work. But probably some decent guys also who've just made mistakes as well.

[@SpaceRanger187]

I dont know how this dude sleeps at night. I could care less about grown adults doing drugs.. Go after some bikers, but if your rich you can have a whole island of children to have sex with and then have other rich people come.. what a joke the justice system is

[@CamJames]

@@SpaceRanger187 that guy you're referring to was locked up for those crimes before being murdered in prison. not sure what your point is

[@noobkin997]

The best PR the Hell's Angels get is from cops like this. Even back in the 60's when Hunter S Thompson wrote about them he admitted that the Hell's Angels weren't that big of a deal until the police and the media started blowing them up and then they grew exponentially. They admitted themselves that they were never as crazy as the cops and media made them sound, but they appreciated all the free advertising.

[@mkh29mail]

@@beezub4311 good point. Also on top of this: Texas isn't "just one state". It is the second most populated state behind California and makes up more than 10% of the USA population. Shows that real power actually exists

[@thePyiott]

They rarely mess with civilians, and in some case the keeper crazier gangs in check, but the are No saints

[@noobkin997]

@@beezub4311 I guess you didn't read my comment, I said they weren't a big deal UNTIL all of the sudden attention they got in the late sixties and seventies.

[@201hastings]

Yeah I forgot that meth isn’t a big deal. My bad

[@noobkin997]

@@201hastings You think the HA cornered the market on meth in the sixties? I feel like you're not getting what I'm saying here

[@BillBraskyy]

Every time I see this thumbnail, I keep thinking that's Mike Ehrmantraut.

[@orion3253]

Kid named Finger.

[@mrnolastname3953]

waltuh

[@HellsAngelsBrotherhoods]

Are you a member or a supporter of hells angels brother ?

[@johncruz1769]

From breaking bad? Lmao

[@lunantix]

What's ironic is how similar his story is to a lot of the plot lines of breaking bad

[@TheMooseFromTheRoom]

I actually read "No Angel", great book that I can really recommend ! I ate it right up, couldn't put it down. The way Jay was treated by the ATF was shameful, he gave so much to the case, but he was an asset, nothing more.

[@Nonogrow420]

Ftp....💩🔨rats a rat a RAT🔨👿

[@AnthonyVanzant]

no-offence yet its not a job'description that a legit cop or person of'anytype would take' (whilst it shows little macro-insight to the real'world and the plethora of contrived problems these operations manufacture bƴdèsìgn' so coughing up for the book n'rewarding the innocent n'unnecessary lives that are destroy'd by this kind of pseudo-policing cr*p isnt a wise'choice (just'my opinion yet) its hard to believe that anybody rational could look@any of this as a legit job and/or a legit job welldone' (injussàƴin' ,,,

[@slayermill8621]

Sounds pretty on brand for the ATF. Another 3 letter fed agency that should be disbanded.

[@tazjoplin1733]

Typical federal government move.

[@ScPulli6768]

All of there infiltrators were treated like this

[@johnnada1222]

I remember this guy , he was one tough wide receiver for the University of Arizona. He would go across the middle catch the ball , get his bell rung and then do it again on the next play . A true football badass.

[@Ron-ml2mx]

Literally Johnny Utah!

[@MauriceTarantulas]

​@@Ron-ml2mx Except Jonny Utah was a quaterback punk.

[@huemann7637]

Must be why he was silly enough to be an undercover cop. Guy got the sense knocked OUT of him.

[@johnnada1222]

@@Ron-ml2mx yeah, that’s who I thought of when I remembered who he was.

[@genefogarty5395]

Sounds like a real genius that repeated behavior resulting in the same outcome while expecting something else. No wonder he was a perfect fit for govt' work.

[@jonmueller2117]

I know Jay, and he loves his family as much as any Dad could. Even fathers can make mistakes, but it is how you continue to love that matters. God bless.

[@Captain_Cinnamon]

He did his job to provide food on the table... What mistakes.

[@Nomad_nightmare_1661]

@@Captain_Cinnamonbeing a dirty snitch trying to incriminate good men and failing. In turn cost him his job and family… karma.

[@MelodicMizeryPs3Vids]

around the late 70s early 80s my dad was a mechanic and loved bikes, was driving on the freeway and saw a guy on the side with his bike broken down and was a hells angel. my dad was always friendly to help anyone his entire life and helped this guy get his bike running again. afterwards the guy pulled a gun out and said you gotta come with me and meet some people to make sure your legit and not some undercover. my dad went and they found out pretty quick he was just a regular guy. he ended up hanging out with them alot. he had some sort of vest, i know it wasnt a official but i think it was the ones they give people in "Training" or new members for him to wear when he was around. he went to alot of their parties mainly or just rode for fun with them. he said alot of stuff he saw he didnt want to tell me. he said women were anyones women. at least the onces he experienced. i know there is ones that there are hands off on. around the time i was born they had a big raid in the chapter in our city and he said all the ones he knew were leaving and going to the california chapter to get away from the heat. so my dad burned the vest he had and never went back to anything like that. i would ask why didnt you keep the vest. this was in the 80s when i was wearing jean jackets with heavy metal patches all over them thinking thats the coolest thing. he said it was like wearing a target and if the wrong people ever found it he could get killed. didnt even want anyone to find it ever in his closet. he also didnt own a bike at the time, he had one when he was younger and crashed them. he was actually a horrible rider nearly died once lol. but he said when he was around the angels that he knew they always had a spare bike he could ride with them. they were very giving. weather that was to course him or if they just liked him i dunno. he would help others tune their bikes or fix them. i worked with my dad as a mechanic as i got older and thats just how he was. we had our own family business and often if he saw someone who worked for us or a friend of a friend having issues he would just go over there and start working on their stuff for them and never charged them and would either fix it or tell them what they needed to fix it. sometimes we would spend 14-16 hour days at our shop it was exhausting. time to him didnt matter, he practically lived at work. but he also provided for his kids from his first wife, me, my 2 adopted sisters, and then his 3rd wife he took care of my step bro and step sis and when my step sis had a kid he took care of her kid as well. a few years ago he died broke and crippled with a caine. he only had a trailer and a half paid car. i sold the trailer for 10k and paid the car off with it and kept it.

[@KennyJimenez-ng6zb]

Your Dad died a rich man.

[@MelodicMizeryPs3Vids]

@@KennyJimenez-ng6zb i can say he def died rich in spirit. i also seen him lose alot of money over the years by helping other workers and stuff. would loan them money and never get it back. from what i know he was owed at least 8 grand total from various people he helped. there was another story he told me something about being in a bar with them and a huge fight brokeout with another biker gang. i wanan say it was with the outlaws but i cant say for sure, some of these stories he told me when i was 9 and told them to me multiple times. but im 42 now so its kind of vivid. but the bar fight it was enough to spook him to not go drinking with them again. he seemed to really enjoy his time around them but also had a sense of this cant be long term thing around when i was born. i think the cleveland chapter being raided was prob the best thing to happen and prob give him a out. anyways thanks everyone for listening to me yap about my pops!

[@rebel1052k]

@@MelodicMizeryPs3Vids Thanks for sharing your insight, great stories to read and RIP to your Pops. He sounded like a very kind and generous man.

[@MelodicMizeryPs3Vids]

thank you @@rebel1052k

[@kanelbulle59]

Wow this is quite the story, I love how he basically just treated them as a normal group of bikers (with some caution ofc). I think HA is an very interesting group since yeah sure they are mostly criminals and dangerous BUT they will rarely hurt anyone without a real reason cus they have their own rules/honor to follow and beside that they are a family and it’s kinda sad to hear the betrayal on a family level when a cop who infiltrated, stands against them

[@Lanwarder]

Friends of mine were hired to play and being soundmen at a hell's angels party if I remember well.....They brought around 15 or 20K$ worth of equipment. At one point things went bad. They told the musicians and techs to go in the basement and shut up (or something like that). They spent quite a lot of time there from what I remember, then they got out (I don't know if they were told not to look around or if everything was clear by then.) They gave the guys 20 to 30 k$ or something like that and asked the "Did you see anything strange last night?" where they all said "nope, I don't remember anything weird" and they all went their own way......I've had weird gigs in my life. That one I'm glad I did not get.

[@jonnymac8925]

Why not? 20-30k to sit in a basement for the night? They also didn't see or hear anything and they all left unscathed so it sounds like a win to me. I can't play any instruments well enough to be in a band but but I'll gladly sign up! Lol but in all seriousness, that's wild and incredibly sketchy

[@Lanwarder]

@@jonnymac8925 I never said that they did not hear anything.......They've allegedly heard quite a lot.....and I'm not talking only about people arguing lol... I've been in bands most of my life. I never experienced anything like that.....I forgot to be clear about something, they received 20-30k$ but all their gear was.......well, let's say that they didn't get in back and it'd be a safe bet to assume that no one is ever going to use it ever. (Making it as a musician in today's world is such a hard gig that I'd probably happily hide in a bunker for 20/30K$ if it didn't mean that I'd end up losing around 20kS worth of gear that I've spent years selecting.....Gear that is now probably worth more money now than back when I bought it lol and call me weird, I sorta get emotionally attached to my gear, especially my instruments lol (Yeah I know, being emotionally attached to a guitar or an amp is messed up, but all songwriters are messed up to a certain extent in my opinion lol and well, a lot of musicians in general are lol.) Anyways, I'm sorry, it's 7 A.M. over here, spent the night recording then had 2 and a half drinks (I'm trying not to have a huge alcohol tolerance lol)....I then fell asleep, saw your message and somehow decided that now was the right time to answer......probably wasn't the best decision :p, but whatever, I felt like specifying a few things that weren't clear since I should have been a lot more specific and clear about what I wrote in my original message, That mistake is entirely on my and I sincerely apologize. Have a great and hopefully awesome day! Take good care of yourself :)

[@greywolf7577]

@@jonnymac8925 He'd have to spend most of that rebuying the equipment that was destroyed.

[@Whelessry]

​@@jonnymac8925 my guess would be a bad fight broke out and someone ended up getting killed. I.e. murder

[@tomhamilton1348]

Definitely didn’t happen but creative story anyway

[@eddyram4932]

I work security and the last director we had was also an undercover with some biker gangs back in the 80s and 90s. Dude looked normal, but if you looked at him long enough, you’d get this feeling like he was a bad dude that could hurt you. He was really nice though, and took care of us until he left our team.

[@franksir5528]

Hey answer me this. Why can The Hell's Angels have a right out in the open club house, but Latin Kings cannot?

[@eddyram4932]

@@franksir5528 go ask the latin kings🤷‍♂️

[@franksir5528]

@@eddyram4932 that's a good idea, perhaps I shall

[@genefogarty5395]

@@franksir5528 One's a gang and the other's a motorcycle club.

[@franksir5528]

@@genefogarty5395 bullshit

[@trapperensor6608]

My dad was the trauma doctor on for the twin peaks shooting. We were eating at Logan’s roadhouse which is within a 500 yards of twin peaks. It was right after church he heard the ambulances looked at his pager and finished his meal that was the last I saw of him for about 3 days straight. Right across the road is Baylor Scott and white Hillcrest so the drive to the hospital was less than 5 minutes

[@SidewaysBurnouts]

people that were there say that was started by a fed sniper.

[@ReckOne559]

@SIDEWAYZBURNOUTZ and not a single biker was convicted. Majority of people that were injured were done so by law enforcement. No civilians were hurt either. Interesting isn't it

[@SidewaysBurnouts]

@@ReckOne559 at some point we have to realize the feds serve the ruling class, the bankers and the secret societies.

[@ReckOne559]

@@SidewaysBurnouts facts

[@trapperensor6608]

@@ReckOne559 maybe I don’t know that part I just know it was suppose to be a knife and chain fight and they brought guns

[@mrwayne548]

Damn the fact he so readily admits his failures. It tells you how much a different man he is today

[@CalzaTheFox]

This interview is a great example of how life can get complicated fast. It's also a great example how the ends are justified for the means, and regular people are often run over as a consequence.

[@sebastienbolduc5654]

I've heard similar stories from former undercover officers who worked on cases against the Hell's. In the end it leads to nowhere. An officer can spend well over 2 decades investigating and building up "a case" and then it all gets thrown out of court. They have good lawyers. My old business law professor in college had been a lawyer for them during his younger years. Nowadays the Hell's are mostly involved in money laundering. Where I live it's now illegal for them to wear their patches in public. Just wearing a jacket can land them in prison. So they have gone underground like an SOB. All of their club houses have been demolished. Another thing this guy doesn't mention is that they lure young men into the club through the use of younger woman. The younger women will pretend to just run across them and invite them to a party, "Oh, it's just a party, etc." They're prospecting when they do that. Any ways, I never understood what the big deal was about them. Never cared either. As for this former cop, the whole system is corrupt. He found that out the hard way. I bet law enforcement wasn't there to protect him nor his family after the SHTF. Obviously someone from the inside ratted him out. His fellow gang members were probably more loyal to him then his brothers in blue.

[@threethrushes]

GABOS game ain't based on sympathy

[@J.B.1982]

That’s the funny thing about gangs and mafias, the government is no different. We just give them more legitimacy, they have bigger guns, and hold a slightly more peaceful order.

[@jakedee4117]

Oh wow ! luring guys into you club with hot chicks, that's got to be a RICO predicate right there 🤣🤣🤣

[@darthjarjar5309]

Not even worth the huge risk of getting caught and the consequences when the charges are brought and have to live with a bounty on your head. Unlike Organized crime that avoids targeting law enforcement, the biker gangs don’t care who you are. And then you have your own agency suing you for a book you wrote, ungreatful motherf*kers. This should be suing for permanent security detail.

[@382u3uuej]

It is an amazing example of how the government is 100% at fault for crime, everyone knows who these people are but due to stupid legislation and lack of interest by the government they don't get arrested, look at Bukele in El Salvador, he got rid of the criminal gangs that were worst than in mexico and now is an extremely safe country, the gangs got crushed when someone assumed power and decided to end it, similar cases happen constantly where the state is lenient and crime increases and when it applies the law crime goes down, it's amazing to me that bands of criminals can roam the street wearing a big sign that says "I'm part of a criminal organization" without repercussions due to stupid laws that protect criminals and lack of interest by the state.

[@jjs6568]

After reading "no angel" like ten years ago I was astonished to hear about the law suit against dobbins by the atf. But if there was anything i would say more about the book is how apparent it was after reading it that the biggest obstacle dobbins faced was not collecting evidentiary means to convictions, but being bogged down beaurocratic red tape that prevented any real work from being done. Politics and crime are so connected in ways its unbelievable.

[@Baseballnfj]

It's the same thing... crime is just legalized political strong arming until it crosses to physical violence... which the state contracts out to other agents than the ones in charge of legal and monetary harassment.

[@Baseballnfj]

If you don't pay a state ordered fine in most cases eventually men will show up at your door and threaten violence if you don't do what they say. It's no different from the mob. What do you call men with guns showing up at your door? Because that's what the law does.

[@Dgn404]

The Hell's Angels are so hard to morally assess. They started as veterans that were fucked over returning from war, they don't bother you if you don't bother them, they contribute to society and yet... the killing and drugs and such. I feel like these were good people that were cruelly let down so they lost faith in society and decided to fend for themself(at least in their beginnings). Correct me if I am wrong though, I met one Hell's Angel in my life, I don't know enough to have a solid stance.

[@ddoppster]

Power always corrupts, especially in authoritarian structures. That alone, is enough to know. Outlaw clubs require you to place them above wife, children, loved ones. That should make that moral assessment rather easy, unless one is totally alone

[@HellsAngelsBrotherhoods]

Are you a member or a supporter of hells angels brother ?

[@davidkuharich9269]

@@Dgn404 they are men old school men, all in all a Great group of people living as freely as they possible can. They all work and are business owners. Don't believe all the propaganda you hear.

[@predac0nmiami]

I remember watching Jay Dobyns talk about this exact experience on the episode of Gangland about The Hells Angels. Good to see he's still around and still speaking on familiar topics!

[@privateprivate3767]

F*** ATF agents they killed kids at Waco and ruby ridge

[@Costa_Conn]

How have you got time to watch YT? Back to the maps. 😉

[@Chris92881]

Gangland was such a great show. That was back in the heyday of Spike TV if I remember correctly. It might be time to bring that one back.

[@predac0nmiami]

@@Chris92881 I recently re-watched the whole series and it's super outdated and antiquated but it's still super informative and interesting. Also i'm sure Gangs are still a problem in America but I don't think it's on the same level as it used to be too much technology, cameras & facial recognition software to get away with Gang Activity imo on a similar scale as the early 2000's

[@bigfishy7816]

Good to see still around NOT

[@LivingOnCash]

In the early '90s I had a custom bike shop in SoCal. I had a few HA as customers. I also had a friend that knew an ATF agent. That agent wanted to do an undercover operations like Dobyns did. My friend asked me if I would talk to this guy because he wanted to pick my brain about what I knew about the club. I declined and told me friend I didn't even want to meet this agent, let alone talk about club life. I had to explain to my friend what a dangerous position that would put me in. I don't think the agent ever got involved with the club.

[@browngreen933]

Wise decision. I was able to talk my actual brother family member out of joining. He's very glad now because his best friend did join and ended up spending 26 years in prison.

[@jamest3002]

"We want you to be a part of something that, if it goes sideways, will fall entirely on your head at no cost to us." 😎

[@manualspellcorrect9073]

@@jamest3002 Sounds like another gang that frequent lodges.

[@NemoBlank]

Some friends you hang with, some you try not to hang because of.

[@JokerInk-CustomBuilds]

I used to do security surveillance work for them in my country. Both in clubhouses and high ranking members homes. I wasn't involved in the club either. It was allways a hairline balance to make sure I never owed them anything or got to hear or see things that would give them a pinch on me. But they payed me real well for keeping quiet so it took me a while to slowly work my way out of them calling me when they needed work done... I'd have made the exact same choice you did!

[@BrutalJambon]

Alex Caine's book "Befriend and betray" about his own time as an Hell's Angels undercover is still one of my favourite read. I'm gonna get this one's a go for sure!

[@channelx92]

I believe this was the most honest interview he has given to this day. It was nice to hear him acknowledge that not all members are criminal drug addicts and the club does do things to help the community. That is very true when it comes to kids. Are there members that participate in criminal activity? Im sure there is just like the general public but you can't lump everyone together.

[@blantant]

I listened to the whole thing and came convinced that the whole thing was a giant waste of taxpayer money. Who are the real bad guys? AFT are the crooks. Defund them.

[@jendee1260]

mexican drug cartels do the same thing…

[@killerdove123]

The scariest thing about the Hells Angels is the missing apostrophe.

[@browngreen933]

😃 😀 😄 😁 🤣 😂 😃 😀 😄 😁 🤣

[@REVY01]

A chilling revelation indeed.

[@kevan4978]

You've obviously never met them in real life or you wouldn't be saying that

[@johnmunro4952]

Many hells?🤣

[@BradsGonnaPlay]

@@kevan4978 you’ve obviously never heard a joke in real life or you wouldn’t be saying that

[@Guiltyconscience83]

Yea. I read your book. The operation was a giant jerkoff. I forgot the name of the guy in charge but he seemed like he just wanted the clout of running the op instead of actually trying to build a case. Felt bad for Jay when I read it as it sounded like he was used and kept undercover way too long. I think the biggest arrest I recall from the book was sometime who did tattoos for the club threatening Jay after they pulled Jay out to try and prosecute guys. All that being said, Jay seemed like a pretty solid dude. Tough line of work.

[@NG-cf7zh]

Jay seems like a decent guy who is utterly powerless to his own ego. You’re head of a family and decide to do this prolonged undercover role within a very dangerous organization? A father has two jobs, to protect and provide for his family, and he endangered his family. Glad it worked out but it’s incredibly selfish in my mind

[@acidwaste00]

it wasnt even a year he said he didnt make it to the yearly vote, and they only bust 50 peeople thats nothing in the scope of things, they should of stayed for 5-10 years and busted entire gang, 5 years is nothing

[@Huntbarternsteal]

You have read one side of a story from a guy who lies for a living and your on board. Your just as smart as a hells angel apparently. Never trust a man that doesn't drink

[@carsonking6199]

He’s an ATF agent, that’s worse than any gang member

[@sdfsdf2205]

@@NG-cf7zh I mean he knew full well what he was going into. It is interesting though, in these situations people fly off the radar, witness protection.. become non existent with their family. However he went all out writing a book, all while still talking to news outlets to this day, why?

[@YouCareMoreThanMe]

This is badass. Makes me realize how I could NEVER do this. You have to be a rare caliber of man to do this and pull it off at that

[@JonahNelson7]

Yeah a fucked up caliber

[@FreeAllenWrench]

If everyone in society was built like that, it would be a very tortuous world. It takes all kinds.

[@jerkchickenblog]

bullshit. you just have to live the life and have nothing else to live for. but if you're in law enforcement and want to be known as a badass or are very ambitious, many are willing. a lot of this is talked about like it's some goddamned movie. it's not that. there are moments of high drama but they are rare

[@ThePandaAgenda]

@@jerkchickenblog bro walking up to an Angels club house after being greeted by 4 armed guards and saying “no, sir, I will not give up my firearm” takes a certain amount of cojones

[@nonconformist369]

Yeah a true rat deceiver. Gains trust and then shits on everyone.

[@chillwillfromtheville]

I saw a solo Hell’s Angel riding early morning once in Colorado Springs years ago. I was literally amazed only having heard of them.

[@gohar777]

same situation with me lmao

[@Omenxiiii]

I just saw one today. Blew my mind

[@HellsAngelsBrotherhoods]

Are you a member or a supporter of hells angels brother ?

[@HellsAngelsBrotherhoods]

@@gohar777 Are you a member or a supporter of hells angels brother ?

[@gohar777]

@@HellsAngelsBrotherhoods Definitely not a member. I just enjoy biker culture

[@Joe_Goofball]

Another ATF agent that did this was William "Billy" Queen--he infiltrated The Mongols. Interesting book "Under and Alone"

[@genefogarty5395]

Embellished is an understatement.

[@cinemanuggets24]

I normally hesitate to watch videos over 15 minutes. This series is an absolute exception

[@cinemanuggets24]

@konartis2 exactly

[@TaylorDelRey]

I love how obviously uncomfortable he became when talking about how the women are treated. He did not wanna get into that aspect of this.

[@jendee1260]

you liked how he didn’t want to open a can of worms on human trafficking post the “me too” era? not exactly cool.

[@ShellShock794]

ATF never ceases to make bad calls

[@MiniLemmy]

This is why it’s so hard to bring organisations like the Hells Angels down - to get in you have to become like family members, and if you do succeed in doing that, you then have to betray that family - not an easy thing to do when you’ve invested so much to get to that level with them, and the organisation is very smart in having the minimum 365 day prospect period and processes for full membership - makes infiltration damn near impossible!

[@komiks42]

I also think that organisation of that scale, and with so many chapters, is near impossible to eleminate. You can cut one head off, but it will regrow before you cut the rest

[@joeblow9850]

Exactly

[@MrCmon113]

That's infinitely easier to infiltrate than lots of organizations that are LITERALLY just a family.

[@iamgreen2964]

I don't see why it would be necessary to eliminate the Hells Angels. There are people that are even worse, being members of even worse organisations, that should be brought down and no one is talking about. Let's start by corrupt politicians, corrupt cops, Neo-Nazis, the KKK, the Pharma industry, Monsanto and so on...

[@bossyspaghetti]

I'm actually surprised it isn't longer; a year is not really that long to know someone, and a big undercover operation can go a year+ no problem.

[@lukesball1]

"I wasn't going to kill anyone punching them in the head." I think it's usually the curb on the way down that does that.

[@tylerdouglas480]

Lmfao 😂 too right.know ppl doing time for that very thing

[@getgot7461]

@@tylerdouglas480 That pissed me off too. So much of what he admitted to doing would put people in jail, EVEN IF they had reasonable excuses like he apparently had. But because a cop did it, no problem. Even if it means starting a gunfight where tons of people died that wouldn't have happened otherwise.

[@missouricanna640]

There was a kid , twenty one years of age that got into a bar fight here in my town. One punch he was dead. Freak accident but it does happen.

[@adamarket]

This is pretty fascinating and informative. I read Hunter S. Thompson's book back in the day and I've always been interested in the phenomenon of the Hell's Angels. This was a solid interview.

[@edwardschmitt5710]

Do you know two people need to be involved for an interview?

[@valhallaxx]

Thanks for mentioning that book, I was going to read it years ago after I finished Fear & Loathing in Las Vegas but forgot about it till now.

[@Jwlar]

@@edwardschmitt5710just because one person is off camera, doesn’t mean they don’t exist. This is still an interview, he is still answering questions from an interviewer.

[@gordonlandreth9550]

@@valhallaxx It is a very good book but remember that back then the Hells Angels were much different than they are now , or even 30 years ago .

[@DimitriTacoEater]

The first mistake this man made was working for the ATF.

[@midnite22767]

Society glorifies and worships Hollywood actors for their betrayals on film but undercover agents have to be considered the best actors in the world because their very lives depend on their performance. Can't imagine the stress his family had to go through because of this case. Thank god there are officers like Jay Dobyns willing to do this dangerous thankless work.

[@SpaceRanger187]

yes.. Making it seem like every MC is like this is so stupid.. The amount of people I have heard hate on people that ride bikes.. All of this would end if drugs were legal and regulated. Most probaly wouldn't even do them anymore.. no different then drinking before your 21..Notice how everyone isn't an alcoholic after 21.. Because once its legal, its not that fun

[@ciremai303]

I was at a steakhouse where the Hell's Angels were having a big dinner and I was in the bathroom and I saw one of them come out the stall and went right back to their table he didn't wash his hands

[@wannabe4668]

Wow, I can sleep at night after reading your experience

[@laikakills6309]

Monsters.

[@rancon265]

He prolly didn't pee on his hands.

[@toddgittins5692]

He had wipes in his vest.

[@user-lh8di9cs7p]

That's how you know they're bad to the bone..... savages

[@Linusgump]

I read his book right after I bought my first Harley in 2009. I wasn’t looking to join a gang, but was curious who is out there and how things go so that I can avoid confrontation with them. It’s a good book, and reading it got me interested in other motorcycle gang books. I wish he had gone into more detail about some things in this video, but maybe he wasn’t asked those questions.

[@som2596]

They are not gangs. They are Clubs.

[@Linusgump]

@@som2596 what’s the difference?

[@giuseppenasca2091]

​@@Linusgumpclubs = troublemaker on a superficial level (kinda) Gans = violent criminal organizations

[@artanderson3732]

Jay played football for the University of Arizona back in 1982-‘84. He was a great receiver!!! Guys got guys!!!

[@HellsAngelsBrotherhoods]

Are you a member or a supporter of hells angels brother ?

[@afridnishad6617]

@@HellsAngelsBrotherhoods didnt know yall recruited through youtube comments

[@rkidd3485]

The family has no idea their life will never be the same. Crazy

[@BozoDuhClown]

This guy sounds like he honestly enjoyed the outlaw life more than being a fed

[@Jeremy-ql1or]

Wouldn't anyone?

[@Nomad_nightmare_1661]

That’s why they start them stupid cop clubs and dress like bikers on a weekend. 😂

[@tardwrangler]

I respect the fact that he mentioned the good things he saw them do too

[@HellsAngelsBrotherhoods]

@@tardwrangler Are you a member or a supporter of hells angels ?

[@tardwrangler]

@@HellsAngelsBrotherhoods I’m not a member. Not sure what you mean by supporter though

[@JoeMaxFpv]

That was the most clear direct explanation to date! Awesome. And my favorite part is how he subtly defended the angels having had real connections within. Well done

[@HellsAngelsBrotherhoods]

Are you a member or a supporter of hells angels brother ?

[@JoeMaxFpv]

@@HellsAngelsBrotherhoods been a supporter for over 25 years.

[@HellsAngelsBrotherhoods]

@@JoeMaxFpv oh ok, So do you wish to be a good member of hells angels brotherhood

[@JoeMaxFpv]

@@HellsAngelsBrotherhoods I knew my chapter well. 10 years ago I may have. My current job with traveling and family I wouldn’t be able to commit to the time required to give the club the attention deserved. I’ll always be a supporter of the good the club does for community. I truly appreciate any consideration.

[@RJSAMCRO]

There is a great show on HULU right now called Gangland and it talks about Joe Falco and how he worked for the ATF infiltrating the Vagos MC then the Outlaws. It's incredible and worth the watch for sure

[@chefmesser420]

Show has been around for a looong time

[@adamcasey6899]

Read the book

[@ranger18771]

You remind of a younger co worker who said "do you know will Ferrell?" Old news lmao

[@Chris92881]

It's Charles Falco.

[@82566]

​@@ranger18771 🤣🤣🤣

[@Swnsasy]

This was very very interesting to learn.. So much more organized than I realized.. It's insane how deep in these undercovers can and do go..

[@JokerInk-CustomBuilds]

they do a real good job making ppl think they are just a biker brotherhood by doing community charities etc. they even have YT channels portraying them as brotherhoods that help eachother become better humans and family fathers etc. Its insanely orgnized.... Having seen things from the inside as a contractor I can promise you they are hardened criminals that anyone should stay as far away from as possible...

[@JonahNelson7]

Welcome to humanity. We’re built for systems and love playing our part in them

[@RealityCheckGA]

Thanks for this great interview. After watching it I've joined the Hells Angel's

[@ec_dreamilily]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@onesykaranja2903]

🤣🤣

[@AshleyNoneya]

Lol congratulations

[@scotcoberly2013]

SURE YOU DID!🤣🤣🤣

[@thirtynine3955]

Do they let you ride your e-bike?

[@lilyvonlicht1517]

over 20 years ago my dad found a bunch of hells angels shirts at a flea market he listed a few for sale on ebay and almost instantly was messaged by a member demanding they come pickup the shirts he has(he didn’t list all of them at once so he was able to keep a good bit😳)

[@martindonohue900]

I'll never understand how someone could put their family at risk like this. If I had no wife or kids it wouldn't be an issue for me in this job but I couldn't risk their lives for a job.

[@adog3129]

cops want to hurt people above all else. they just go through the legal means of doing so because they don't have the balls to put themselves in legal danger or to admit that what they like is the destruction.

[@PaperMakersAdeludedbroad]

Money and passion maybe

[@LimJahey710]

I read his book a few years ago. Great follow up. Tough to hear about his family and the inevitable follow ups and house situation.

[@joeyho5134]

A Salute to you , Sir. It takes strong willpower, courage, high sense of integrity, quick thinking ability and forethought.

[@mauricamcginnis4063]

Ya l am sure it was all worth it just to get a thumbs up by someone like you .

[@RETRIBUTION_TIME]

As a professional shoe maker, I was looking for heels angles, but this'll do.

[@lecobra418]

Are you a professional dyslexic as well?

[@jamielacourse7578]

I lived on the same block as the H.A clubhouse in Edmonton. Our neighborhood had a ZERO % crime rate year-round.

[@twally87]

well... 0% in the official records, anyway lol

[@pauljaramillo1727]

Lmaoooooo Canada? Man stfu

[@eddiek6390]

The Canadian HA is prolly the scariest chapters of HA. There are reasons why there's only one 1%MC in Canada, and it isn't because of the winters.

[@terrymiller111]

Crime is everywhere. You mean street crime that's in the open. The drug deals, white-collar crime, pedos, etc. still were going on.

[@fh11235]

I know a guy who was walking home late one night and had to relieve himself. He came across a potted plant in front of a regular looking building entrance, and went ahead. Turned out to be a clubhouse. He was lucky he could sprint!

[@Phoenixesper1]

How is it possible for this man to step in public again?! And to reveal his actions against a gang like this? I would think it would be very easy to find and take him out, let alone his family and friends in the age of google.

[@jasondashney]

It drives me nuts when stories like this come out, but then don't answer the elephant in the room.

[@mattramos4629]

He recently retired as a football coach and is well loved in the community

[@Phoenixesper1]

@@mattramos4629 and that stops bullets how exactly?

[@mmboiler10]

In fairness before the trial fine then he can't testify then. But after it's really just a cost. I mean those directly involved might want revenge. But it's the same as how he said the battles don't usually happen in public. They arnt trying to get arrested. Depending on where he lived not getting caught could be pretty hard. So loss of money, possibility of jail time, and in return you get revenge. It's a terrible business model. At the end of the day all these criminals are just businessmen.

[@lanceacosta3823]

The Marshal's witness protection program ... ATF are federal, remember?

[@tylerm0089]

Very interesting, and even more rare, believable....Thankyou "Insider". I believe this man is honest and I rarely ever think that.

[@healthyb-fu5zd]

He's a lair. And he's good at it. Never trust a fed

[@HellsAngelsBrotherhoods]

@@tylerm0089 Are you a member or a supporter of hells angels ?

[@keenant.7827]

Jay is the coolest guy ever! He was my first baseball coach growing up.

[@DefaultTheseus]

It's crazy how much Kurt Sutter's version of the Hells Angels (Sons of Anarchy) depicts reality. Such a clear-spoken person yet the whole scenario is so 'gray'. And he is definitely right about the paraphernalia part of the business.

[@DisparityOfBeliefAndTruth]

Sons of Anarchy was a cheesy soap opera for wannabes and white trash. There’s a reason why it’s the most popular shirt at flea markets, trailer parks, and tailgate parties.

[@TC-bt5ow]

Love that show 😁

[@garlandrose9948]

You can tell he and Elgin James really did their research. I heard they interviewed club members or former club members to get accurate depictions. Everything this guy says is portrayed very well on their TV shows.

[@jaybrady3128]

Happy was a former hells Angel, Lenny was a former one as well. Was a few that helped or starred in a few episodes.

[@jakefavre]

Everything he said was known in the 70's, he never had to murder anyone in front of another member, he was never a part of any club ......

[@asleepinthealley]

Why is this still on here? The Jury has stated the guy was such a liar that his testimony was worthless. Even the ATF had to distance themselves from his lying antics.

[@JerichoGreen1]

I've read his book, it was amazing.

[@davidbullock289]

In the medical community whenever you see that type of blackness underneath the eyes, that’s not in the eyesocket, but just on the ridge is either two things either being socked in the face too much stress, or too much alcohol or drug use, which causes that to show up

[@andyspencer4786]

This guy spent two years in the Angels, he most definitely had all of those, constantly, every week.

[@PURDY_POISON]

Is it permanent?

[@Iburn247]

This wasn't long enough. Awesome content

[@ssisnake]

My Dad did this in the 70s after he got back from Vietnam when he was a state narcotics officer and I had some cool photos of him we lost due to one of the many disasters in California. Some wild stories he told me about it.

[@death-head674]

100% I bet that didn’t happen

[@terrymiller111]

@@death-head674 No, it did. It just didn't get as far. Dad was just a hang-around, or MAYBE got to be a prospect for a few months.

[@goodvibesvideo4545]

imagine if he just took the mission to create fire dad or grandpa lore, all jokes aside w guy for risking his family just to help stop these people commit crimes he even betrayed trust created relationships just for justice. Big respect to him

[@mysticeye4525]

Scary stuff. I hope you and your family are doing alright sir. The kind of courage it would take to infiltrate a gang like this is unimaginable. I hope some good came out of your efforts.

[@warchildwarhammer8837]

If I was him I'd leave the planet

[@MrDeano-eu9rg]

Nothing came from it other than a waste of tax payer money

[@OldManPaxusYT]

all that may be well and nice (ur comment) but doesn't it seem worth a bit less, overall, when he sells out to do an INTERVIEW...on ww media?!!! Seems NUTS, to me! Maybe i am missing something but i see VERY little benefit in this and about a dozen AWFUL negative consequences... Even if he doesn't care about his, or his family's safety, what about future journalists, agents, police, military etc that are doing under-cover work? The more ppl like Jay 'put it out there' on the media, the harder it is for them to do their work and not get caught or hurt or killed.

[@phreshian]

All he gained from this is a couple of pats on the back and a lifetime of looking over his shoulder.

[@wildwestside]

The worst gang he was ever part of where the ones that did Waco and violate the 2nd amendment daily

[@abolishqualifiedimmunity]

The Harrah's incident happened because of the police instigating it. The clubs were at an understanding at that time but the police stated some untruthful information to instigate the situation.

[@doylejodi7502]

To have the presence of mind to hold up to the scrutiny of the gang consistently....knowing that at any moment, one slip could mean your end...

[@dreamtimej]

The most riveting “How Crime Works” by Insider.

[@knightfall209]

From what I understand he had a lot of actual footage of him conducting acts unbecoming of an officer and they did not want to pursue specific crimes due to his involvement.

[@angryrick2330]

He sounds like he is still apart of the HA lol.

[@jakefavre]

He never murdered anyone in front of another HA member, thus he was never a member

[@DOC_951]

I would watch a full 2 hour doc on this

[@OcarinaSapphr-]

Sadly, this isn't just America- Australia has also really been bad for motor bike gangs; about 10+ years ago, a shoot out happened in my own hometown- & I didn't live in a big city - to my childish mind, this stuff happened in Sydney & Melbourne & Brisbane, the Gold Coast or Perth- not my hometown. But it did- & it was only about 5 blocks from the house I was living at the time... As he says- not all motorcycle groups are criminal- there are groups that do charity work, incredibly good deeds - but make no mistake, there are ruthless & violent gangs, too...

[@nedflanders4158]

I'm also in Australia and you are Incorrect, EVERY SINGLE bikie gang are criminal scum. Sure some of them pretend they are decent by doing some "charity" work for cancer kids etc. But back in their HQ they all plan and commit many crimes. They all deserve to be in prison.

[@JokerInk-CustomBuilds]

They are all over. Even in europe. In my country they basicly controll the drug market...

[@nedflanders4158]

@Meyer Aliyeh sure, but we don't have those in Australia. Bikes are a real problem here

[@elfishcoder7287]

The ones that do charity work are involved in criminal activities, they're just doing those things for pr.

[@damascusraven]

Wow, an ATF agent doing something good for the nation? Rare sight.

[@pitpride1220]

This type of crime needs to be exposed and reported on more.

[@sole__doubt]

I hear you. The fact the FBI gets away with this level of criminal behavior on our own citizens is appalling.

[@badnewstalkstech6900]

@@sole__doubt blame the govt agencies for everything when there are groups like rhese committing far heinous crimes. People like you like to idolise criminals and see the govt agencies doing a good job against them keeping your @ss safe at nights as the villains

[@JokerInk-CustomBuilds]

@@sole__doubt you a prospect or just an online groupie? LMAO

[@sole__doubt]

@@JokerInk-CustomBuilds are you a child or just an online idiot who trusts the feds? LMAO

[@sole__doubt]

@@badnewstalkstech6900 Nice straw man. I dont blame the govt agencies for everything. Im just saying that people trusting the fbi is a big mistake. The guns I carry keep me safe, just like everyone else, law enforcement isnt there to protect anyone. They are there to try to get justice for the crime against you. You dont even know the role of law enforcement, this country is so far gone.

[@m.k.s.p.7746]

Awesome, thanks!! My cousin was a deep cover narc in the 1970's and I thought that he had some hairy stories ... Also knew a DEA deep cover agent that ended up addicted to heroin because he had to live the life. (He ended up going through a methadone detox ... tough stuff.) I couldn't imagine the commitment to get involved enough to be patched into the Angels, where anybody could call you out.

[@Seymourjohnson69]

All that time undercover and he didn’t shoot one dog. Best atf agent ever

[@DeniseLeigh123]

This guy was serving hay makers to make sure they didn't die. Got to appreciate dedication.

[@cjtuckerbpmc]

Twin peaks wasn't a rival gang fight it was a massacre by police.

[@EzekielEshechiel]

you are now, one of my personal heroes man thank you

[@HellsAngelsBrotherhoods]

@@EzekielEshechiel Are you a member or a supporter of hells angels ?

[@Supermariosupervideo]

as interesting as these are Always remember government agencies don’t have your back, only its own

[@mauricamcginnis4063]

Stop making promises you can't keep up LoL hahaha 🤣😂

[@shaymorcormick8743]

@@mauricamcginnis4063 you telling the feds that?

[@mauricamcginnis4063]

Shay why ?? Is that what you do .??!!!

[@bladvenci8237]

😂 Damn this guy, especially when I saw the still and video, started. I thought it was Mike from "Better Call Saul"😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@AndorranStairway]

He looks like a Hell's angel undercover as an ATF agent

[@wfletch3270]

I read No Angels few years ago and couldn’t put it down. Fascinating stuff

[@syyenergy7]

Good interview and seemed accurate and honest. Simple facts and no bs drama.

[@TheRealHexZombies]

John Malkovich is really going all in on his new biker movie.

[@victorcontreras9138]

What a great video and my admiration goes to the infiltrator. He has lots of courage and stamina to do all that. A thing I learned from this that really surprised me was that to be in the club I thought a member had to be a wild, partying rabble rouser but some can choose to be mild at parties!

[@blastermaster2383]

Dude , I was in a major club here in Australia & not all members have the bikie appearance that you’d expect . In saying that , these guy’s weren’t to be under estimated either .

[@ypaulbrown]

@@blastermaster2383 well said

[@SirTorcharite]

​@@blastermaster2383 I've found sometimes it's the most dangerous fellas who intentionally try to look plain, forgettable, and unintimidating. Just useful in a variety of situations to have the element of surprise up your sleeve for when it's needed. A man who's genuinely dangerous but looks like he should be teaching a computer lab course is a possibly very scary person lol.

[@victorcontreras9138]

@@blastermaster2383 I believe that! I guess different countries might have their own style in clubs like they do in their language. I love cars and street racing was my game. My Hot Rod looked mean and I challenged a "friendly" looking car and he beat me! Turns out the dude had a big, souped-up engine under the hood. We refer to those type of cars as "sleepers" as it's what's INSIDE that makes them badass⚠️ Thanks for your text!

[@carsonking6199]

Don’t admire ATF agents, they’re bigger criminals than the hell’s angels

[@Bandersonloud91]

yeah im amazed hes still alive tbh

[@lexooo]

Super interesting stuff

[@n3wt]

This type of docu you wait for a while.

[@connermckay4012]

I got the same ad 3 times in like 5 minutes watching this video

[@HellsAngelsBrotherhoods]

@@connermckay4012 Are you a member or a supporter of hells angels ?

[@nghiephuynhmn1987]

Thank you for your service Sir!

[@n8y538]

Crazy how u can just hop online these days and see how an entire criminal organization works .

[@tiqo8549]

We had these Angels here in the 90's (The Netherlands). They are all gone now...thank God for that. Justice made sure they are removed. Some of them killed, most of them in jail. We now live in peace.

[@joshmartin1938]

I was in Amsterdam in 1981. It's blurry but I remember being in a weird pub-near the red light district- they had non-alcoholic beer-but had hash space-cakes, etc. Remember talking to a couple dudes who's jackets read- Hells Angels Holland- we were smoking tobacco with hash. Talk about a buzz. Seems like the Pub had a dirt floor. Maybe not. lol

[@ThomasA.]

Yeah now we just have police that are beating up innocent protesters and a government who is willing to violently disown our farmers. What a peaceful and fine country. 🤮🤦🏻‍♂️

[@ThomasA.]

@@No-One-of-Consequence Well I'm everything except a left winger. My whole country has gone to sh-t because of the left. The only point I'm trying to make is that this guy makes it seems The Netherlands is perfect and there is no problem at all which is false. And by the way you are argumenting it seems you are the left wing nutjob. Because instead of objective criticism you just play it on the man and shout insults at me. Typical socialist scumbag.

[@getgot7461]

I bet it's far easier to control when both prostitution and drugs are more decriminalized. US cops love looking like heros, but they're just "treating" problems of their own creation. When I say their own, I mean them and the law, since they work in tandem and generally support things like rampant guns and treating drug addicts and prostitutes harshly. More civilized countries get to focus on real crimes rather than hunting their own citizens for doing stuff that people are always going to do.

[@jerkchickenblog]

that just means the bad stuff went underground. there are always things going on, but it is best when it's hidden from normal people

[@K1DCAT]

It’s crazy how big the gang is, it’s spread over multiple countries

[@2TMarie]

This retired agent has "balls that clank, for being involved with the Hell's Angels for 2 years! 💪😮

[@sole__doubt]

yeah its really admirable to pretend to be someone you arent to try and catch people doing things that shouldnt be illegal in the first place. The fbi are the real criminals here, and the sad thing is that until it affects you, you wont believe it.

[@Yourboydrew]

This man speaks with conviction. Great vid

[@brazilnut8898]

Ok 54 indictments but how many convictions? Why would you leave that part out?

[@anthonyiocca5683]

Because undercover work is mostly a waste of money. But some really enjoy pulling it off. The longer it goes on is what they get to brag about.

[@jonasbjorn2503]

Ett stort tack för att ni står upp för yttrandefriheten.