Why Don't We Fight the Cartel on U.S. Soil | Q&A with Vincent "Rocco" Vargas

[@thisisironclad]

let us know if you would like to see more episodes like this.

[@aerok111]

Yes!

[@randlecarr3257]

For sure!

[@wardaddy9910]

It's not Adderall to Coke... it is Adderall to Meth. They are both amphetamines. .

[@_nick_d]

I think something interesting you could try is illustrating the numbers. Maybe show a scenario of smugglers might charge for 100 people/day vs growing 100 plants assuming 4 month harvest period to see how profitable each 1 is

[@henrygonzalez360]

​@@wardaddy9910 There really isn't much of a thriving meth market in the east coast, but coke is available all over the country so many people revert to using that instead.

[@PentaRaus]

Because all the right people have been paid. Simple as that.

[@BennyAndTheJets86]

Agreed

[@Crizakafrijolito]

RIGHT. As soon as you ask people to consider the fight in their own neighborhood, suddenly it's not so easy. Suddenly, "we are doing our best". It's always framed as Mexican cartels but just as much, if not more, money is kept on this side of the border.

[@TherealKino8]

Its all a joke

[@tweakedhead]

Dude ur show is great ur great, your really the only person that actually talking about the problems and real issues with south of the border

[@TJB-zt9tx]

The opening ad: Mark Kelly promoting Gallego. All you need to know.

[@hurri-eq2zy]

Thank you for your service.

[@soul3581]

I’m sure the illegal activities will diminish over time once we start taking the threat more seriously. Doing nothing will only make the problem worst and deadly.

[@slickleg6066]

Politicians and people in power do not want this issue resolved.

[@briansanchez6699]

The problem is that we don’t. Take it seriously. That’s why there so much talk about getting Mexico to do something. Which is important but it keeps the conversation away from this side of the border

[@robertfreeman5231]

You are correct. Doing absolutely NOTHING about drug addiction in the US has done and is doing just that. And the supply will diminish when the demand does first.

[@BryanBradburn]

Have enjoyed the show since the start. This episode though was great. Love the conversation between you two. Would really enjoy aeeing more like this sprinkled in amongst the regular format shows. Also, tell is a bjt more about the Masters you are working on. Bryan in Texas

[@H_Hold]

Really good episode

[@amramr9516]

Without addressing the human hardship on both sides of the border, whether big pharma, poor job opportunities, access to education, cost of living, cost of health care, etc... the drug problem will never stop. But these things take generations to take effect and require reforms in healthcare and labour among other things, but people always want to fix everything with a gun. A gun can solve a bad situation in the moment, but it does not fix the cause of all the problems.

[@aliciarodgers3406]

BIG PHARMA started the current opioid crisis. Thanks to the U.S. Food and Drug Administration's approval of Purdue Pharma's blockbuster OxyContin and the government that did nothing for a long time, and when it finally did, was a slap on the wrist to the industry. Stop blaming others and fix the problems this side of the border who are the big drug dealers here? When are they going after them? Let’s work on our side, before we want to cross the line. If there’s no buyers and drugs dealers in our side, there’s no business on the other side and therefore problem.

[@rogelioaguilar9974]

Rocco you should do more cartel based podcasts, or maybe have an Ironclad wing of Cartel podcasts that yayo guys also do every few days. I’d be more than happy to help out! Thank you brother, keep up the good stuff. ❤From TEXAS!

[@caseyosborn875]

Eff the haters Rocco. Keep doin what you been doin, killin it.

[@beckiwildeman600]

And the medical system is providing clean needles and alcohol swabs

[@hbvtux]

It took me several minutes of looking at the producers face and thinking “where have I seen that face before” before realizing I was looking at Apollonia Vitelli-Corleone

[@davel144]

No Kidding! Good eyes

[@rogelioaguilar9974]

Brother I don’t think they’ll ever label them as a terroristic organization, just because imagine the number of Mexican citizens that would get asylum in the US.

[@moic9704]

or the number of americans working for cartels that would qualify for terrorism charges.

[@unazitella702]

​@@moic9704 There isn't actual domestic terrorism charges . This is something that needs to be corrected. Timothy McVeigh wasn't charged with domestic terrorism.

[@robertfreeman5231]

Could they label all the drug addicts in the US terrorists? Just because IF there were no addicts to buy all those drugs, they would stop taking them there.

[@ataraxiadreaming]

Least interesting ironclad I've heard and couldn't even watch all the way thru.

[@reddirtwalker8041]

Touching on the terrorist organization question. Rocco mentioned we should try and work with the Mexican government regarding the Cartels, but just before that indicate that the Cartels are not necessarily seen in a corruption light in Mexico but more as an acceptable feature. If its a feature, how do you work with the government then? Also, it is in their best interest as the same lines that supply drugs and people are likely moving guns south. Mexico seems to care so much about that, that they are suing an American firearm company.

[@robertfreeman5231]

All that "sounds" great. Look up what "supply and demand" means and go ahead and try to say it dont apply to drugs too.

[@user-OG-g]

In Europe the opiates we have to swim through DEA regulations to get are OTC and they don’t have anywhere near the problem we do

[@billalumni9142]

The addiction crisis may not have started with 'Pain is the fifth vital sign' campaign, circa 1996, but it sure hit the accelerator by normalizing pain meds.

[@hailtothe_rooster1572]

Some people might remember but this topic was thought of being a high probability military action in the 90s. Doing what I’ve done and experiencing this firsthand living on the border…. I’m convinced the government has a hand in the money pot in one way or the other. They’re very good at job security

[@wardaddy9910]

They are involved !

[@ellenburkes1270]

Yes❤

[@DioChavez]

How about "extreme prejudice" for street addicts?

[@robertfreeman5231]

It will never happen

[@mikelitten7489]

Cheap and efficient answer

[@tylerdurden4006]

Roflmfao, "why don't we fight the cartels"? Probably because they were made by and armed by murica and murican military and it would be d*mb to be fighting your own supply lines. 🤷🤣

[@saramccracken1133]

wait I love this!!

[@sidanx7887]

Yeah that would be a great idea - cause it went so well fighting terrorists in Afghanistan and Iraq - anyone one who was truly there and not Special Ops etc ask them what a day to day is like - this is a stupid idea fighting someone who is more sophisticated and lives fucking next door

[@TherealKino8]

Also lives in your home lol 😅 we are better off allies but mx is tired of being disrespected by the u.s

[@JulioDelatorre-i8e]

Conflict of interest

[@sangrebravakennels6462]

Because people on both sides are payed

[@jameslyle6854]

Yes , more episodes about what is happening at the BORDER ! The U.S. is under attack ! Letting this happen is going to lead to our downfall , and a lot sooner than anyone can imagine !

[@robertfreeman5231]

From within by all the DRUG ADDICTS

[@kriscsandli2147]

Did the legalization of cannabis in America slow down the illegal trafficking by the Cartels

[@wardaddy9910]

They get their weed from the United States now and sell it in Mexico. The stuff from Cali is better.

[@henrygonzalez360]

Yes and no. The Mexican cartels have backed off from snuggling in Mexican weed, but now Chinese triads have set up indoor grow operations all over the country from Oregon, to Oklahoma, all the way to Maine. Smaller grow ops but more potent marijuana so more lucrative.

[@robertfreeman5231]

Has ANYTHING slowed down the DEMAND for all drugs in the US?

[@mikelitten7489]

What legislation? Weed is still illegal. Just because a state legalized it doesn’t mean the feds can’t get you.

[@J19118]

Did ending alcohol prohibition slow down consumption of alcohol?

[@yummybubbles]

Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday

[@robertfreeman5231]

Why dont You at least TRY to FIGHT ALL THE ADDICTION in the US in US soil first, then guess where the cartels will go? Away! Supply and demand applies to the drug market too! The biggest problem i see with that happening is that would require the US to accept at least some fault in that whole mess and that aint gonna happen. So keep passing the buck and playing victims.

[@unazitella702]

Mental health & addiction focus & eliminate the flow of drugs. Yet, we have a dire need for all medical professionals.

[@lexi-ho2nw]

stop your junkies as soon as your junkies stop using drugs the cartels will stop🎉😂😂😂😂

[@bruinrose]

They're always blaming Mexico but never take responsibility for their drug users creating the demand

[@robertfreeman5231]

This here! YES! Almost no one else will state that!

[@williamryan9195]

That is a bullshit argument. The Drug Traffickers AKA cartels are organized crime syndicates.They will not quit if demand was stymied. That is not how addiction works. These are violent criminals so quit making stupid statements about what you think you know about this.

[@Chad-ww9gw]

little fish we dooooo

[@jasonolivar2518]

Congratulations

[@txchick1111]

Yes.

[@roberthubbard5008]

Mexico needs to do something about all the people disappearing every day. Young and older. Male and female

[@bruinrose]

US needs to do something about all the drug use

[@Reyes_e]

Literally more people go missing in the US everyday but who talks about that y'all act dumb and turn blind eye just pointing fingers

[@DeborahFlorian-gy6lw]

Absolutely!

[@stevegrifftx]

Cartel groups and their players should be designated as invading soldiers and enemy combatants.

[@robertfreeman5231]

What about all the addicts in the US? Should they be designated as victims and be given a kilo of their favorite drug? please

[@KR-mt2zx]

Yes, this is interesting.

[@thomasfredericks3230]

You know we can't do anything without approval of Mex gov. And they don't approve

[@chuckweber542]

Facts and the Mexican government would be scared to fight these cartels because they will go after there family's and that's what they do.

[@aerok111]

They don't want to. Lots of dirty laundry.

[@austin-j9t]

Except you don't need approval from the Mexican government on u.s. soil. Yes right the cartels. Take everything from them on u.s. soil. From their associates to their legitimate businesses in the u.s.

[@RDCM1008]

Once we stop finacial transactions with Mexico they will understand how serious we are.

[@aaronvega862]

Not that simple the key countries are 🇺🇸 and China 🇨🇳 who use Cartels as proxies how about stopping transactions there nope no more wealth for Capitalism

[@henrygonzalez360]

They are one of our largest trading partners and with the high likelihood of a conflict with China within the next 25yrs our government (both parties) have advocated us increasing trade with our southern neighbor. It isn't an easy fix.

[@Tepaneca]

​@henrygonzalez360 not one of, they are our largest trading partner. Any open conflicts with Mexico would devastate both economies

[@RDCM1008]

@@Tepaneca Your wrong. China is our largest trading partner. regardless, if we are important to them then they will change. To put it in laguage you and Mexico can understand, gold or lead, you choose. Exercise our power damnit.

[@henrygonzalez360]

@@RDCM1008 That's the universal language.

[@GrayHat0621]

I have one question I’m pro legal immigration done the right way. My question is how many resources did you use from people prior DOD/ SD / Any form of government?? Because I’ve seen personally people use assets inside the government be able to put them to the top of a longggg stack

[@colliercivilian4673]

Question* Do you think a deterrence of labeling them terrorist organizations on a government level is that it would lead to finding their strong ties to Chinese organized crime which undoubtably has ties to CCP in Mexico & Ultimately lead to china being labeled a supporter of state sponsored terrorism which would lead to even hotter relations with china?

[@osochistoso]

I rescued a dog the cartel left to die next door to me..I filmed and posted it..cops won't do anything to protect us.. I'm hoping the cartel doesn't kill me..

[@dd-uj8jx]

Rocco dont forget about the quarter million greengos that live at any time in San Miguel Allende GTO

[@stalker7892]

The main reason we shouldn't is because it would be a nightmare. They're imbedded among the people and in some places are revered. A lot of civilians would be caught in the middle and killed in the crossfire and or deliberately killed or held hostage by the cartels..

[@monkmoto1887]

So just let them have it all? We’re talking 5-6 figure death counts just from drugs the cartel ships in. They’re already killing people, on a mass scale. Your answer is just let them do it because stopping them will be hard? That attitude is why Mexico isn’t half the country it should be. Shame on you

[@gusbatcho96]

Especially in the US people don't know how many connections there is

[@UncleTwoTimez]

The price you will pay for cowardice far outweighs the price you pay for action.

[@oscarescobedo.1]

There's a gun behind every blade of grass in America.

[@bruinrose]

You fight cartels by stopping the drug demand

[@skaterd00d14]

It’s all about will power!!!! People do drugs because we have will power we can choose what we wanna do!! If you’re going to take a risk like doing drugs and you end up overdosing well that’s that!

[@GrayHat0621]

Suboxen is not the way to go either is methadone. They are both the same thing as heroin. One is an antagonist and the other is an AGONIST. Imagine a 1 door you need to unlock 2 keys one is made for the door so it fits and turns to lock/unlock. The other fits into the door but doesn’t turn so this is what it does neurologically. Basically they are both very addictive if you look at the true statistics, less than one percent of people are able to come off Suboxone.

[@mtntoughfitness]

💪

[@thenotoriousvlog5986]

Put the national guards from those border states on the border! Because border patrol agents ain’t doing Jack.

[@mcluvin65]

He should be corrected, the current administration or the past one are only partially responsible, Congress needs to change, strengthen or update immigration laws, Presidents use executive orders. Remember there was a bipartisan bill that was killed before it went to a vote, passing laws is the answer. Also punishing low level criminals?, how many TD Bank executives are facing jail time for money laundering for the cartels? If we are as successful stopping drugs as we will be human trafficking, we are doomed.

[@mikelitten7489]

That “bipartisan bill” was killed because it wouldn’t do anything to stop illegal migration. Look it up, you were lied to all in effort to blame Trump. It actually legally allowed millions of illegal immigrants every year.

[@aaronvega862]

Question? Is it true that a lot of detention centers are privately owned and are making profit gains of the migrants. We can’t fight em’ on U.S soil because once it’s on 🇺🇸 soil the brokers and main players once exposed will disrupt economies on a global scale

[@mikelitten7489]

Yes, watch James O’Keefe’s movie Line in the Sand

[@markbarnes7203]

If you show the rest of the immigrants what we do to the Cartel and criminals with force and stay on top of it. They'll quit out of fear.

[@rachelderagonartist9766]

What you don’t understand is that many are working for cartels out of fear. The cartel threatens their life and the lives of family members. Who would you be more afraid of- the jailed guy who has fingers everywhere and threatens to kill your parents, your kids- or more afraid of the guy who put him there?

[@RobinDupa]

Trump is your only option at this point

[@TherealKino8]

Yeah cUs he did something last time jokester

[@KGFishyFingers]

​@@TherealKino8He did

[@TherealKino8]

@@KGFishyFingers sure he did gtfo

[@ChristopherDwiggins]

Because it would cause a very harsh war on our soil and make both our countries easy prey to outside forces. I believe that was or will be the need should we not change. Make us fight a neighbor openly, and that war will perpetuate or we'll take their country. They'd use some who would be criminally minded enough to not take into account the real power of us weapons that need to be used. Plus, China would immediately jump in. Even if we help with Ukraine and Isreal, we still would get used to be pointed their way. Imo.

[@legoking8955]

why did you get rid of my comment

[@carlbecklehimer1898]

It took my wife 12 years and over $20,000 to become a citizen. That's kinda dumb.

[@sntmdsa3628]

That’s not dumb.

[@Armenian_Me]

Easy breakdown, doing nothing, will do nothing and expect nothing. This could be a 60 second video.

[@robertfreeman5231]

Right, like drug addiction in the US

[@Angry_patriot]

Don't read the comments bro, listen to Rogan

[@elaishh3533]

It gets tricky being it’s the cia and all 😉

[@jeremiah9457]

This guy is obsessed with Mexican culture, he's Puerto Rican! He played an outlaw Mexican biker in a TV series who murdered and did business with Mexican drug cartels! What is this obsession!!!

[@mikelitten7489]

That’s the whitest comment I’ve ever read

[@prmac9776]

💯

[@041375lalo]

Well I don't believe that's the right question the right question should be whether people living in United States a fictional state occupying land of the northern American Native is NOT legal as we all have determined IS REAL in Palestine. Settlers don't have rights sovereign native American lenders do

[@mexicansadness]

13 minutes in and bearly getting on topic im out

[@TheRednose3269]

To the question of "Why don't we fight cartels on our soil" and he says "it's not really that easy" I would def disagree with him. It is pretty easy, first step any suspected cartel member we check their citizenship, and if they are here illegally then it's automatic deportation. That would get rid of at least 25-50% of them, but we would need a closed border. Any American citizens we would need a task force to work on those the same way we did with the Italian mafia and can use RICO and other laws to slow them down. Then last step I believe we should classify them as terrorists in order to take the fight to them..... But to do any of this we need an administration that wants to put our American citizens first which the Harris/Biden admin does not.

[@Tepaneca]

If we label them terrorists then Mexicans will be able to flood here without consequences. Once a country has terrorists their exports are no longer immigrants but refugees and USAs immigration laws are different when it comes to war refugees.

[@robertfreeman5231]

If ANY administration put American citizens first they would have at least TRIED something to stop all the drug use. And its obvious NO administration has done ANYTHING. But yeah You take the fight to where it puts no blame on Yourselves!

[@hectorsonia4353]

I think you really don’t have no clue of what is really is happening and I will like you stop what you are doing or actually go deep and actually expose the truth

[@MrPepeton75]

Ha ha ha ha 😂😂😂😂 WANT TO DESTROY THE CARTELS 😂 ❤LOVE EACH OTHER ❤ ❤LOVE AND STAY WITH YOUR KIDS❤ ❤DON'T KICK THEM OUT AT 18 ARE YOU NUTS?