How to Install an Anti-Scald Shower Valve | Ask This Old House

[@ShiverPlumbingTN]

Richard makes it look easy. That jobs commonly 4hrs of hard work ! Not a 1st time DIY project. Folks this is why so many homes still have their original tub faucets .

[@shawniscoolerthanyou]

I know that the spirit of most of these videos is about DIY, but seeing how easily he did all of that just convinces me to hire a professional. Especially when special tools like a handle puller are involved.

[@dylanw8823]

This guys a beast. Not only letting the owner watch over his shoulder but have a camera watch his every move. Working while being watched is the worst!

[@jameygorman817]

Dylan W not if you know what your doing. People watch me everyday doesnt bother me. But maybe everyones different

[@joeyraupp4290]

maybe to some people, but not him.

[@HackThePlanetNow]

I fix cellphones for a living and I have no problem letting people watch. I like it actually.

[@nsbyband5239]

They can watch all day but they say 1 word about how my job should be done I'm outta here

[@AxcelGamer97]

Sounds like you're not comfortable with the quality of your work. I always watch anybody working in my house. I do it to ensure that nothing gets taken, if it's a shifty worker, or because I genuinely have an interest in this kind of work and want to know more about it. I'd even like to learn how to do some basic stuff and why not learn from somebody I'm paying to do the job?

[@N3VADAN]

Something about This Old House that the others on KZbin can’t touch. I love their videos.

[@TheArfdog]

Emmy winning

[@jamesreynolds5776]

There's no pretensions or rushing through.. just good old-fashioned education 👍

[@stever5887]

It's a pleasure to watch Rich at work; he's a master at repairing plumbing problems. I watch the show to catch Tom Silva working on various construction projects and Rich doing jobs like this. Their work ethic is inspiring and they help make my day.

[@crumplezone1]

An industrial plumber or electrician is a job for life, good tradesman are worth every penny

[@shawniscoolerthanyou]

Absolutely agree. What it maybe took him 45 minutes to do with ease, I would spend eternity on and still screw it up.

[@PatrickPoet]

Whenever I watch you solder in a wall it makes me think of my dad's brother Bill in Philly who was a plumber as well. His/my Dad's family always made everything into a heroic story and Bill's had something to do with wiping and solder better than normal human beings.

[@manojmago4205]

these guys are living institution.....learning source for millions people forever

[@Freedom-gn2ch]

Hi there I am from Great Britain I enjoy watching videos about plumbing I have seen 3 different plumbers do what you did today and I was wondering why none of them has never used anything to stop the water going through the middle you're the only one who has done that well done you could never beat a professional

[@brownpride5125]

I just love to watch this KZbin channel with a nice people and the knowledge they have is great to watch and you learning the easy way to learn thank you so much!🙏

[@bosse641]

Richard is so enjoyable to watch with his fine skills and manners. .....has he ever worked as teacher? ......he would make a great teacher that's for sure.

[@RealBigR]

+John Grytbakk He is a very personable guy.

[@RealBigR]

+John Grytbakk He is a very personable guy.

[@RealBigR]

+John Grytbakk He is a very personable guy.

[@RealBigR]

+John Grytbakk He is a very personable guy.

[@RealBigR]

+John Grytbakk He is a very personable guy.

[@stevew270]

Whoever came up with the anti-scald valve idea was a damn genius.

[@stephensnell1379]

You can say that again

[@plumbingstuffinoregon2471]

Wow! That bathroom looks almost all original from the 40s or 50s! Very cool! I do like the look of the original handles way better, but it's nice to have an anti scald valve.

[@abc123fhdi]

looks like it had a copper re-pipe at some point wonder how they did that without taking out the tile.

[@ILVT_Plumbing]

I agree

[@TexasGTO]

2:18 "and you really don't want to replace all this shiiii... Tile!" lol

[@QargZer]

TexasGTO he did a great job catching himself lol

[@amirhouseingholinia2023]

TexasGTO LOL man you got sharp ears

[@adamepb]

Lmao I heard that too I was like holy cow

[@joelsawyer569]

He might have said shingle...

[@robertb7362]

I was about to bring this up! "replace all this shiiii" lol

[@briancuprisin4571]

Richard is the best/most helpful of the "TOH" crew.

[@stephensnell1379]

I love it when Richard says-"Don't go over the limit"

[@bkoz319]

4:28 drops running drill into tub and knicks the side of it

[@marqueemark5917]

haha, cast-iron tub, no biggy

[@welfarewagonrepairs]

4:28 hear him scratch the tub with the still running drill

[@fortcastlevgn2368]

WOPW SHT IS THAT TRUE?

[@AccountSpace]

I criged a bit

[@veergauba]

@@AccountSpace It's probably a cast iron tub, so didn't do much.

[@AccountSpace]

@@veergauba i could have scratched the paint and starts rusting

[@kavezananderura2666]

i am a student at I.O.L V.T.C and pluming is something i like in my life

[@sams6090]

but isn't it a good idea to have that putty all around so when ever people touch it, it doesn't provide a pivot point without support? Just thinking of how over time it will start to bend slightly and rock ultimately causing the putty to come loose and allowing water to seep into the walls. Would it also be a good idea to provide some kind of insulation within that void that is now behind the plate? With the tile/concrete up, it didn't have a void and so less noise went through. OR is that just not a thing that's really possible or an issue and i'm just thinking of too many extreme scenarios that aren't likely to ever happen?

[@kevini4295]

Loved this episode. That lady seems so sweet. Hope she is doing well.

[@brianallard8915]

Yeah Same!!!!!

[@daniehollen4183]

I need this and I need him. He made it look so easy but said it was hard. I have to announce when I am showing or I get scalded.

[@hughbo52]

NEVER give up your option for water volume! Two handles will give you more volume than one. Wish I'd not gotten stuck with one. Kudos to this guy for the quality of his work.

[@hughbo52]

@Pyroman / What brand did you buy? Mine is Moen, put it about 10 or 12 year ago while putting on an addition .

[@Bremend]

So magical he put a circular object on the toilet and it didn't immediately roll off

[@johnathangeorge1109]

I personally like the three handle design better, but also like the anti-scald feature. Does something like that exist?

[@kar15bigdog]

Would be nice to see how he did behind the tile

[@gunsnstuff4040]

They failed to show him piping in the new valve in that tiny opening. Most cases you have to do this procedure from the reverse side.

[@petervachon6989]

In this case, it wasn't needed as he determined in that small space where to cut while taking into account how much the ends need to come into the fittings and then cleaning the ends so they will fit in the valve as a "dry fit" to which he then applied the flux to the connections and was ready to solder. Sometimes, you don't get lucky and would have to work from the rear as you mentioned.

[@oldhardrock2542]

I would have liked to see getting that valve in after cutting the old pipes. I have two i need to change. One I can get to the rear, one I can't.

[@TheTruthSeeker756]

Perfect like usual. Richard the Master

[@thanatossassin]

"I think it's time to give it a test drive!" *Old lady strips*

[@peterryan7827]

Such a neat and tidy job,and that cover plate is excellent.but as you showed ,cutting those old tiles is a concern for cut etc,and the timber with the blowlamp.the times i have come up against this worry ,and flooded it with water before and after ,jus un case,and still gone home and its still on my mind,

[@theorangepersonman]

I love the tile, so vintage

[@anjiesabater826]

Great video. Just what i needed. Question: Is there a product for a single handle anti-scald valve with out a diverter to the tub spout. I need to replace my three handle valve for our shower room which doesn't have a tub spout?

[@westfield90]

I wish I could call him to my house. A few hours ago my handle flew off and it was water everywhere with such force. The mixing cartridge was held inside with just a little Allen wrench pin which the guy working on it didn’t tighten enough. So out it flew and so did gushing water. Mine does not have a thread like this one did

[@tcash2402]

I think Richard just love saying escutcheon

[@jaysmith6013]

Thomas Cass and “full city water pressure”

[@johnporter4628]

There is not sufficent information in this video to warrant it being categorized as a DIY. This is a nice video insofar as it explains how the new valve works and shows the steps of sizing and cutting the hole and removing the old valve. However, it really skips a lot in terms of installing the new piping. That would be ok if the viewers were informed that much was being left out. There is not even a disclaimer in the written notes below the video.

[@morlthree]

I just commented on this exact point!! This would have been the perfect video, too, as there aren't many videos on this topic.

[@nighthawkj30A4]

I wonder what brand of shower valve kit Richard used. House i live in was built in 1964. Has the same set up

[@Skateforlifelad]

Love the content, wish he was my journeyman Putty only on the top side just in case any water does get in it has a place to escape and also air to dry

[@torobravo8023]

I love this guys, excellent video, thanks for sharing

[@tory-anntorres8001]

We love this program. We can not wait for Monday to come every week. I have not seeing the new parts that you purchase to replace in this case the anti-scald valve, is there a place on your site where you publish the manufacturer model cost and where you bought it? thanks. Luis Torres

[@tombryan1]

Always cut the tile about an inch lower than the original valve because as you can see he installed the new valve lower due to the supplies having to be cut. Hw barely covered the opening with the escutcheon and handle trim.

[@sainarshad2663]

Learning everyday something new from you guys. Thanks

[@expertnugget]

Sain Arshad do not take anything from these people it's all scripted

[@rrofficial8553]

i always enjoy your working guys do you guys already have the next generation all of you????

[@CarlosLopez-hi3pk]

I'm addicted to this channel

[@amerdeen9406]

I just need to know how to connect the hot and cold after he took all three out

[@Jv9319]

I have this same setup in my shower (including tiles). How much will this cost if I would hire a professional?

[@fernandorodriguez4382]

I’m impressed that faucet is nice.

[@Pinoyphilly]

Richard and This Old House: can you give us the link to buy that Stainless Polished Cover to hide the hole after you cut the tiles? Thanks and let us know, please.

[@randallcebulski1290]

It came with the valve unit. Probably unable to buy that part individually.

[@HCkev]

Just learned what an anti-scald valve is... For years my wife and I were set on not flushing the toilet while one or the other is in the showers, I just tested and we actually have an anti scald valve lol

[@FanoFinz]

Awesome job. That scald protector is great. Last year my nephew got 2nd and 3rd degree burns because of scalding water in the bathtub. I hope people do put scald protectors on their faucets because the water can get hot enough to scald people.

[@carlosgomes3758]

i really like the way hes teaching how to fix things thanks

[@jgonzales9041]

why cold water is at left side in the valve plate?

[@MrBobity]

Would a Balancing valve do the same thing?

[@dylanreischling4151]

I have those old 3 way ones. The exact set actually. The issue is they leak really bad

[@brandonirving5014]

Dont get me wrong the anti-scald feature in new construction and remodels is great however, wouldnt you make sure the temperature is where you want it BEFORE you get in?

[@drb4074]

What happens when somebody flushes the toilet while you are in the shower? Cold water pressure drops, hot water doesn't, and you get scalded. These showers prevent that from happening by equalizing the pressure in those scenarios.

[@jameswalker590]

Watched a rerun of Rescue 911 a few months ago where the roughly 10 yr old daughter was trying to give the 2-year-old a bath (Mom should have been there, but she was busy and didn't know what was happening). The water was turned on too hot and scalded the infant. Infants and the elderly are more susceptible to scalding. The limit screw is very important if children or the elderly are involved. Water heaters need to be set to at least 120 (some will say 140 to kill legionella bacteria, but 122 is where they stop reproducing).

[@Mike1614YT]

the hot water temp coming from the water heater should not be set above 120F- esp if there are kids, disabled, or elderly people i the house. 135F will scald you fast, it's dangerous. BTW the average temp of a "hot shower" is 100-102F.

[@vincentponce4276]

That was so freaking awesome !

[@trainmaster0217]

These new fixtures suck. I bought a new Delta fixture and found out after installing it that you can't regulate the flow of the hot water from a a trickle to full on. I used to be able to regulate the flow of both hot and cold water but not now. The hot is always full on. Not good when giving my two small children baths. And the hot water is not as hot as the hot water form the sink even though I have the temperature limiter set as far as it will go to full hot on the cartridge. Considering buying a new cartridge for my old fixture and reinstalling it.

[@anthonygraceffa4827]

Ritch in this state hot water limit at shower head is 11o degrees not 118

[@celladuffy8919]

I love these videos. I wish he would do one on what I'm looking for. I have an old bathtub that has three handles. One controls the HOT, one controls the COLD, and the middle controls the DRAIN. I need to replace it. There are 11 inches between the hot and cold handles and I do not need a spout. There is a spout that comes out of the tub. There doesn't seem to any reason to replace that BUT if I can't buy what I need without a spout, I'll buy it! I can't seem to find what I need. Help! Can someone on here tell me what this unit is called and how do I find one that is not attached to a shower.

[@garfieldnate]

Cool video, but I dislike this type of water control interface. The valve in the back is fine, but the single dial doesn't allow to you adjust the temperature and water pressure separately.

[@garfieldnate]

Also, intentionally limiting the temperature range of the shower is really annoying. Sometimes you need the hottest water possible for cleaning or something.

[@johnporter4628]

@@garfieldnate Sadly for those who want the capabilities you mention, housing codes for new construction and replacement faucets don't allow the independent hanle design in showers anymore.

[@garfieldnate]

@@johnporter4628 Thank you, I didn't know that! That's pretty annoying.

[@johnporter4628]

@@garfieldnate However, you can still buy the two and three valve style if you can find someone experienced to install it. I've had three licensed plumbers tell me they will only replace a three handle with a single handle because of the code requirements.

[@mikesahle1193]

Thank you 🙏 great knowledge with great 👍 job .

[@krisone5253]

LOOK AT HIM GO. RICHARD TRETHEWY IS LIKE MY GRANDPAW IN THE , 1950'S INSTALLING PLUMBING FOR THIS MODERN WORLD 🌎🌍

[@checkyoursix5623]

Moen offers a feature called Posi-Temp. I wanted that feature so someone in the shower in bathroom # 1 wouldn't get scalded when someone in bathroom # 2 flushed the toilet. At the time I did a bathroom make-over with new fixtures & plumbing, that Posi-Temp feature wasn't available on their standard products in the Big Box stores, but you could special order them - same product name & model, but WITH the Posi-Temp feature, for about $ 10 or $ 20 extra per unit. Don't know what they do these days ...

[@JoeZelMusic]

I wish they would post brand/model of the part that was used. I see a few others posted the same question and were ignored. It looks like a Symmons brand but would really appreciate it if anybody knows exactly which kit this was. I love videos from TOH but not sharing the part numbers used makes it much less useful. Please let us know what was used here. Thanks!

[@JonO387]

It's 2020. People still get in the water before testing the temperature?

[@prestoncoker6620]

Hi how do you know the brand of the forsett to change the cattrages because they don't have the brand name of the forsett stamp on it

[@georgelopez3737]

The name would be on the faceplate

[@ncooty]

@2:47 Why damage the old hardware? Could be donated to a homewares resale shop. In renovating our old house, we've relied a lot on those places for period doors, hardware, etc.

[@Maniac8275]

What do you mean? Nothing was damaged when taking those off.

[@dizleran9276]

We are not worthy ! We are not worthy! 🙌🙌

[@alolipa]

I learn something new every time I watch this guys

[@cmetube]

That's a very nice cast iron tub they don't make any more.

[@xkidgodx]

Can lowering the temperature at the water tank work also?

[@meganmccarthy8114]

I would say yes, but I prefer not to do that because I hate when my washing machine has to work with lukewarm water for the supposed hot cycle. If that's not gonna bother you, I say go for it-- more energy efficient and all that.

[@stephensnell5707]

@@meganmccarthy8114 you prune washing machines use cold water inlets and use an element to heat it up

[@foxgamingofficial8710]

My family needs this

[@Guillotines_For_Globalists]

You think that they would make the plate larger than the hole and then have a preformed rubber gasket instead of putty.

[@BurtBowers]

Blaine Bugaski I agree with you though as i watched him making the line for the template then cutting right on the line itself would put the cover plate edge right on the edge that was cut into tile. i personally would have cut 1"within the template line not on the template line itself..it did look nice otherwise..

[@Guillotines_For_Globalists]

Yes. Cut as small as possible. More tile isn't a bad thing if it doesn't get in the way of installing the new valve.

[@Guillotines_For_Globalists]

With silicone you would have to apply it on the exterior, around the plate. That would work but silicone doesn't last forever, it will flake off and look nasty eventually.

[@ChronicBongitis420]

@@Guillotines_For_Globalists I think they mean a premade silicone gasket

[@johnporter4628]

The plate is larger than the hole, I believe, and the template should be slightly smaller than than the plate to create an overlap.

[@DavidGomez-co4uy]

very good the instalation shower valve ...i am the argentina

[@jamesstaton3653]

David Gomez

[@jdorffer]

Wrong water can make its way up, steam rises in a hot shower, putty should have been placed all around

[@randallcebulski1290]

I totally agree. You are right there, why not go the extra inch?

[@stephensnell1379]

It can only go up steam although it rises in a bathroom it Cannot rise through the wall(this would only happen if the water leaked into the wall)

[@Jg-lq6hs]

If water manages to get in it will be forced down your wall.

[@alexsu6872]

did no one see that poor woman spent time shaping the putty but realized its not needed? heartbroken :p

[@tlowery04]

nice old spout and handles

[@ajggar732]

Love them cutaways!

[@eleazarpyscher8569]

What is the labor cost on everything he did? That demo had to add a little to the quote.

[@onecrazywheel]

$70 bucks an hour at probably a 5-6 hour job. Maybe $350-420. Maybe less hours than less costs. The fact a plumber would know there is lathe and wire to cut out would add more time in an older house. If it was a house built recently than it could be way less time and money.

[@eleazarpyscher8569]

onecrazywheel Thanks

[@LUNA71CHEVY]

Looks like a 700.00 job to me.

[@jamesdaugherty117]

@@LUNA71CHEVY thats about what i paid

[@badersulieman3619]

Always great show

[@donovanjohns6208]

The putty looks similar than the Play-Doh.

[@mohdmujeeb4384]

Nice you works im plumber 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

[@KCostelloe]

Make it look so easy!!

[@Ironbuket]

Why does it need that giant hole cut in the tile, when the front plate appears to be much bigger than the template? You can just cut any shape hole you like as long as it is smaller than the template, maybe this was what was written on the template? The template is the max sized hole not minimum which is what he seemed to think it meant?

[@johnporter4628]

Try working on the piping in a smaller opening. Likely tricky the size he has it.

[@louisekevins7815]

Job well done!

[@dfpolitowski2]

Maybe, depending upon the condition of the water this new mechanism will corrode, all those working parts and need another service call within 8 or 10 years. A three valve system may be a better choice.

[@jamesstaton3653]

Toolmaker in

[@johnporter4628]

Not to code. A plumber won't do it.

[@jaysmith6013]

this job is well beyond the scope of a home weekend DIY'er

[@mustafizurrahmanchowdhury7136]

hi richard you are guru as i have my idea on plumbing and some interesting points to develops. so need more to understands your mechanisms , will you friend give more teachs me

[@abdelhaklarisso5700]

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[@compitaviga4898]

Really good plumber nice job 👍🏼

[@x2h3]

shouldn't it be easier to limit the water temperature at the water heater?

[@meganmccarthy8114]

You can do that, but then all your appliances that use hot water will also be limited, so your dishes and laundry might not get as clean as you want. It's definitely an option if you aren't worried about that, though!

[@meganmccarthy8114]

@Jdj Xhhoh no, why is the world so full of horrors??? 😩

[@eliahupinchasov1976]

It is better to lead the two supply pipes out of the wall from the outside. And hang a shower column on the tile. By the way, there are many different models of them now. To keep such a water ''bomb'' in the wall?

[@johnporter4628]

I've never seen that, does it conform to code in the U.S.?

[@eliahupinchasov1976]

@@johnporter4628 If they sell in Amazon, then everything is according to the US standard "Shower Panel Tower"

[@johnporter4628]

@@eliahupinchasov1976 One can buy all sorts of parts that are not in accordance with building codes. And those codes can vary depending on state, county, and municipality. I've had three plumbers tell me they can only replace my sixty year old three handle bathtub faucet with a single handle faucet because the plumbing codes don't allow otherwise. These are licensed plumbing companies, not general handymen. Yet one can buy two and three valve sets not only through Amazon but in local stores here.

[@eliahupinchasov1976]

@@johnporter4628 It doesn’t matter who the customer is, it’s important who the manufacturer is and he is always and everywhere the same .. well, you know who!

[@DiscoveryDarks]

Time for you to give it a test drive, ...Richard quietly stays in the room.

[@tepigfan1599]

3:07 us band people are like "we use that for our mouthpieces"

[@seventh-oneproductions]

Yes, a lot of good information in this video!

[@AWIRE_onpc]

They should make the 3 handle in a version where it has the same system to prevent people being scalded.

[@jamesreynolds5776]

I don't think it's possible due to water flow etc.. plus most people nowadays would prefer one handle to 3.. however I did like the look of the original handle..

[@johnporter4628]

I've heard from a plumber that they do, but it is very expensive

[@mescnick]

Thanks

[@SenorDennis]

Can someone give me a part number for this shower valve with cover and everything? I can only find the actual valves

[@andreyyaromich8277]

DennisK moen and delta both make plates designed for their own respective valves. This valve is probably 20 years old. New valves are even smaller easier to install (moen positemp, delta universal)

[@KhalidAli-lb2lc]

Thank you

[@Andrew-rs7tp]

I love this show as a kid and now

[@BrandonLedbetter]

I love this guy