Got a lot of interest from the vortex video -- having some fun and answering some questions. Hope you enjoy.
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@jimmydiresta7 жыл бұрын
Hahahaha mad love!! Very funny. ... I stopped using lady epilogue and began to use hatchet blades ☺️
@AliHureiby7 жыл бұрын
here comes diresta :D lol
@thekodanator7 жыл бұрын
jimmydiresta I can't get enough of you guys, I constantly learn things I had no idea I should know, and it's awesome to watch you do the same. I hate to get sappy but you guys are turning a generation of unknowledgeable guys like myself in to the stewards of the technical and handyman worlds. You deserve way more than any single subscriber could ever repay. Thanks, gentlemen.
@KingNast7 жыл бұрын
jimmydiresta You came out of the hot side, but who came out of the cold side?
@Lierofox7 жыл бұрын
Probably AvE, he's from the cold side of Canuckistan after all. Hopefully he brought the vice with him...
@jimmydiresta7 жыл бұрын
Dakota Anderson thank you brother!!
@PracticalEngineeringChannel7 жыл бұрын
Man I love this channel. Awesome follow up.
@kungfu1677 жыл бұрын
Practical Engineering
@ThisOldTony7 жыл бұрын
thanks!
@roblowery31885 жыл бұрын
Brady!
@ianbuilds77124 жыл бұрын
No Jimmy's were hurt? What about aVe's??!!?!?? That scream sounded like some irreversible damage was done...
@mitchblocher20877 жыл бұрын
no, turn the vice handle the other way i laughed so hard at that moment
@phooesnax7 жыл бұрын
Now THAT was a Treat Especial!
@ThreeTwoVictor7 жыл бұрын
Thumbs up for the DIRESTA electric leg shaver....
@azbrunner7 жыл бұрын
ThreeTwo Victor - that joke got me to subscribe!
@mrquicky5 жыл бұрын
Have you ever tried one of those contraptions? It doesn't shave perse.... it's an epilator. It literally rips the hair out of your flesh at blinding speeds.
@unclezeds5 жыл бұрын
mrquicky so you turn the speed down to a more manageable FRIKKEN OOOOOOWWWWWWW!!!!!!! level
@SteveBrecht6 жыл бұрын
This is crazy late but you missed the most interesting aspect of the "spool" problem. I did a minor analysis on this problem when I was studying physics. The spool unwinds when you pull it high, and it winds when you pull it low but most interestingly it will drag without winding or unwinding if you hit the right angle in the middle. That angle will be tangential to the center shaft going through the point of contact with the surface it's rolling on. Works for any ratio of spool and shaft diameters. Lots of fun physics in that little problem.
@theplotkeeper708011 ай бұрын
Addendum to this! Very recently, Steve Mould dropped a video on this exact phenomenon. Its a great watch
@mrmudslide56766 жыл бұрын
I continue to binge my way thru your library. This is one of my favorites. Laughed out loud several times and wifey is trying to sleep - not good.
@A_Man_In_His_Van5 жыл бұрын
Seriously? You have a wife that angers when you laugh? Run.
@NBCRGraphicDesign7 жыл бұрын
Great job! A nice blending of science, tooling, humor, and KZbin culture.
@nikobelic22697 жыл бұрын
Now AvE has to keep his stick on ice.
@georgedennison33385 жыл бұрын
NOW AvE has TWO reasons, you mean; the original was to prevent a penalty, (I think), the new one is to reduce swelling.
@Broadpaw_Fox7 жыл бұрын
"Turn it the other way"... I was genuinely rolling at that part...tears and all. Kudos to you!! Still chuckling...that one really tickled...
@bryanb79187 жыл бұрын
how do you not have millions of subscribers? both you an AVE are my favorite channels, and both of you need more recognition!
@mr.bobcyndaquil42142 жыл бұрын
He does now.
@zygrottwanger7 жыл бұрын
I love how Jimmy is in the process of painting his name one something. 10/10
@intjonmiller7 жыл бұрын
I can never pick a favorite bit in your videos, but Twobes, the V in vortex, and Thermal Boogaloo are all excellent. So many layers. :)
@Wild_Bill573 жыл бұрын
Don’t come here to learn science, but I’m never disappointed. Not sure what I’ve learned watching this channel, but will continue to watch it until I learn that answer.
@cristinavekos58086 жыл бұрын
After disassembling a commercial unit for cleaning, I made a few of my own to experiment with, (one that had a bad nic in the vortex plate screamed so loudly, it hurt to touch it, and it shook itself to pieces after a minute). A notable difference, an orifice plate was used for cold side exhaust, to adapt air flow requirement, with no internal.nipple. My take on operating mode is that air is compressed on outer wall as center is evacuated, producing the temp differential. The valve regulates the fraction of that differential that exits, opening the valve gives much colder output but less air flow. This is opposite to Crystal Soulslayer's comment, sorry. Also, efficiency of these is poor, power requirement (it air) was one to five horse power for the units we were using.
@johnmorton54987 жыл бұрын
It's always great when you add a cameo role from another awesome KZbinr
@Big2009Gee4 жыл бұрын
I have a cheap Ebay vortex tube, it only cost £12 and it has -40c on the cold side and +250c in the hot side. Build quality is exceptional too.
@tonyhowe41043 жыл бұрын
Hi! I'm "that older and not so smart Tony" i'm a novice.....really novice ...learning machining and milling. I've crashed my lathe twice. Luckilly only cracked some change gear bushings and keys. Lathe still works....so i managed to make new bushings and keys. Thats quite the accomplishment for me. I really love your channel...and you and Blondi were the inspiration to get a lathe and a mill. The only thing outstanding is the aluminum spindle drive pulley which i can't remove because the key is mangled. I tried a gear puller ..with moderate force. Didn't want more force as it would probably deform the pulley. You are inspiring and funny......learning a lot! Sooooo....what the heck is a vortex tube used for???????
@johnchinn92145 жыл бұрын
YA 862 Hi Tony, way back in the days before fuel injection we used carburetors to properly control fuel to air ratios. Carburetors had a choke which, in the early days used heat from the exhaust to open the choke as the engine warmed up. So the reason for this “history” lesson is that Snap-On as well as other tool companies produce specific vortex tubes used to either heat or cool the choke to simulate operation. They work great! Also for many other uses. Thanks for the info, love what you do and keep’m coming!
@anchorbait66626 жыл бұрын
Thank you Tony. Great video. Showed my dad and we had a laugh together. He's 82, I really appreciate all the time I get with him. Thanks for letting us share a laugh, learn, and spend some time together.
@ThisOldTony6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Anchor, and thanks for watching!
@patrickholmes0017 жыл бұрын
The ribbon thing has to do with where the friction is in relation to the applied force. Think of it as though it weren't a spool. If instead of it being round, it were a deck of cards, and you pushed to the left on the top, it would fall left. If you pushed to the right, 1/4 of the way from the bottom, it would fall right. The force couple between the friction (which is ALWAYS opposite to the applied force) and pull of the tape creates a rotation. Because of the friction between the spool and the table, the point in contact does not slip (ESPECIALLY with that extra weight to it, more normal force means more friction). the rotation, plus the lack of slipping, causes the spool to roll. Note that it rolls in the direction of the pull every time, it is just counter intuitive because one way unwinds and one way winds. That comes from the relationship between where the force is applied, the point of friction, and the center of mass of the object. For a deeper understanding, google "Instantaneous Centers" Thank you for all the awesome videos! I love the "jokes" and the editing voodoo. One of my favorites is dropping stock and having it magically cut to length (boring head video), or smashing it with a hammer and getting the part and pile of chips (vice handle video, I think?)
@Cancun7717 жыл бұрын
Sometimes I wake up at night, scared of what's gonna happen as soon as the guy gets himself a surrealistic B-movie budget crowdfunded and make shis directorial debut.
@MarcusLindblomSonestedt784 жыл бұрын
Can we make it happen? Once his kids & wife can take care of themselves. Wait, they already can. Or they're dead. Not sure which at this point (2 years after video). ;)
@pcfreak19927 жыл бұрын
Your videos always make my day and I am always excited to see them. Please keep them up!
@RosaStringWorks7 жыл бұрын
You are an awesome content provider. Thanks for making your videos.
@timwhite92557 жыл бұрын
I think i shit myself laughing, wait that isn't mine, never mind.
@kisielthe1st7 жыл бұрын
The diresta's lady shaver was top banter.
@DoRC7 жыл бұрын
Tighten till you hear a crack....back off a quarter turn....
@terryisaac81954 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah, that's hilarious and that's how I've always done it. With enough experience you can anticipate the crack and actually turn the crank back fast enough to ignite the flux capacitor and then you're home free (absolutely no crack is possible...😎)
@terryisaac81954 жыл бұрын
I've learned most of what I have already forgotten from Reverend Jim (Iggy) Ignotowski of the People's Church of the Peaceful (Taxi)!!! And I remember my conversion happening about as quick as Rev. Jim's did. One second you're BMOC and a 4-square Frat dude; then you take the dare, and all of a sudden you've swapped your Frat sweater for a grungy blue denim jacket, and your personal anthem becomes "Lost in the Ozone" which you sing along with Commander Cody and His Lost Planet Airmen!!! Life is Great!!!
@michaelt.93724 жыл бұрын
Don't forget to leave it for the night shift.
@pjhalchemy7 жыл бұрын
A boatload of work and fun...Breakfast of Champs. Thank You Tony (Mr. Wizard) for all you bring!! Had to watch it twice because I laughed so hard. I was 2 meters but shrunk in my old age to .00979 furlongs. Maybe it was because gravity changed or I expanded laterally. Almost hurt my self busting up....Man! ~PJ
@emmettcoen7 жыл бұрын
Lol I just recently started watching your vids.. Went from this pt1 n 2 back to 2013...so funny and amazing how sharp you have become since then in all aspects :)
@pyk_4 жыл бұрын
"It's not really a problem if you're a normal person" I love this.
@KRAVATTNET7 жыл бұрын
Is this stand up Engineering or a funny machinist? Love the humor and details you put in the videos! :)
@kklop014 жыл бұрын
I think it might be time for me to get some therapy - your sense of humour is absolutely killing me (in a good way). Seriously, love your videos!
@jboone85614 жыл бұрын
Tony we use these at work for the commutator slotting machines(simple slotting saw on glorified mill). We use vortex chillers, the OD of the hot side is almost 2" if my memory serves me right. Overall length without the flex nozzle is about 8-10 inches. We use Abanaki brand. Looks identical to this Vortec 610 15 SCFM Adjustable Cold Air Gun on amazon.
@gpcgamerTV7 жыл бұрын
Had a Good laugh watching this video. Thanks for making my day better
@briangasseling34897 жыл бұрын
Your vids keep getting better and better!! Love the humor!
@briankenney4287 Жыл бұрын
I love your videos and laugh a lot because of your great sense of humour. I built one of these devices when i was a pipefitter helper in the mid 1970s in a steel plant. It had hot discharge and snow came out the cold side. Neither exit pipe was long. My sense was the most important feature was the ratio of the outlet diameters to each other and to the vortex diameter. I think there may be another consideration related to your experiment. Is your shop air dried? Having moisture in the air may be critical. Calgary gets Chinook winds that are warm in the winter. It is caused by the moist air rising on the west side of the Rockies(expansion) causing the water to be removed and the air heats up as the air compresses on the east side of the mountains, when it is dry.. It is called adiabatic heating. I think this effect may be important to the heat rise and cooling of the other side and the snow I saw. Might not, but I thought I would ask the question. Brian
@mikecurtin98315 жыл бұрын
Very much enjoying the humor, the learning, and the troll crushing. Thanks much.
@robertdickerson162 жыл бұрын
I had to subscribe,your editing and humor is spot on ,
@sorinmiliescu5 жыл бұрын
The quality of humor and the wild imagination of This Old Tony is addictive.
@RoisinT27 жыл бұрын
This time, the hula-skirt for all tools got me good.. xD You Sir, are hilarious! And the same time fun and educational to watch.
@ootjesurcamp2 жыл бұрын
Haahha the Stefan getting immediately denied part, was great!
@devinhiatt99953 жыл бұрын
I know this comment section has some age on it but I think I've figured it out. As Tony showed: the cold side is a vacuum when the hot side is wide open and is under compression when the hot side is closed. Which means that at some point the valve on the hot end can be set just right so that air will flow out both ends. With that in mind it has to be noted that the the air coming in to the hot side is still expanding from it's compressed state in the line. That expansion is droping the air temperature in the inlet initialy, then the temperature should rise again as it forms outer vortex. Soaking up heat from the walls of the tube and repressurising a bit. I'm totally glossing over some fancy science here, but I'm thinking that as the inner vortex escapes it has to pass by this low pressure zone in the incomming air causing the cold side vortex to lose its heat to the fresh incoming air. I think this effectively makes a heat trap, using temporary differences in pressure to force heat to flow to one side. IDK. Just some ramblingings from a dude in the comment section. Take it with a grain of salt.
@randalhuffman88274 жыл бұрын
i wish you were my neighbor, bro...... i feel cheated in life....... lol... i used to be a machinist. And I have always loved science. you are my role model and hero..... although my days having fun with machine tools is over because of a busted up body, my mind is still active as ever. I like watching you make things and also investigative tasks. I love how you are so precise with your tools and jigs. that makes all of the difference in the product. please keep up the good work.
@ThisOldTony4 жыл бұрын
sorry to hear that but thanks and great to have you watching!
@daddyphatsax3048 ай бұрын
I never realized the name of this video until just now...I just read the thumbnail the first time through. lmfao....ode to the horrible break dancing vjo from the 80's with Turbo and Ozone!! Classic!!
@alexeivaningen7 жыл бұрын
DUDE.. I Died laughing at the end.. Love your stuff and the humor add is epic
@ExStaticBass7 жыл бұрын
Delightfully comedic while equally informative as usual.
@kraftybeard42727 жыл бұрын
hahaha great stuff Tony, having a good time learnin' and laughin' over here
@azyfloof7 жыл бұрын
Loved that ending, Tony! :P Also, penny nail for a nickle 😂😂
@jimnnobody7 жыл бұрын
Totally fun to watch and learn from.
@crystalsoulslayer6 жыл бұрын
I wonder if it's a friction thing. The hot side gets hot because of all the friction created by the vortex, increasing the temperature, which causes that air to expand. Cooler air gets squeezed into the middle. The higher pressure around the end valve thing keeps the cooler air from being able to get out, so it bounces back. Then the cooler air speeds up as it hits the narrow tube, pulling the central "column" of chilly air out as it forms. But it doesn't pull the input air as much, because that's swirling around the sides, mostly heading toward the more open hot end. The hot air vents at the end valve, so not as much of it is available for the cold end to pull out. And that is the end of my theory. Really enjoying the channel, man.
@button-puncher Жыл бұрын
ATF (automatic transmission fluid) is what I like for machining aluminum. By design, it's meant to keep steel and aluminum parts separate and lubricated. Whatever no-name brand seems to work fine. Thanks for the follow up. Interesting/weird device. With my compressed air powered vacuum pump, I can keep my forehead cool while I bleed my AC system on my car, 3 minutes at a time, while my compressor cycles. ;)
@mayflowerlash114 ай бұрын
You have a wicked, wicked sense of humour
@hopper17 жыл бұрын
I thought the phone call was a reference to James Greene's Short Serious Shennaningans, but after further review I'm thinking it's the dude with a large cache of Canadian Pesos.
@txm1007 жыл бұрын
Man, I love your videos and humor.
@jonathanlunger27753 жыл бұрын
We use adjustable versions of these at work for supplied air hoods. Weve broken enough to know that theres no nesting tube in a nested tube trickery. But they are made of plastic and dont operate at any crazy pressures.
@pudster22377 жыл бұрын
You are a funny smart guy. Awesome videos!
@douglasmcleish73553 жыл бұрын
You are the real thing. Thanks for attempting almost anything. Take care
@joeschmitz33466 жыл бұрын
Air conditioning units are based on the vortex tube idea. You got a compressor, the heat exchanger coils outside and the cold coils on the inside of the house. They just added a exchanger gate to recirculate the oil that helps keep the compressor oiled.
@luiswu98924 жыл бұрын
I know this is late, I just ran across it. A little over 30 years ago I found one in a Big Lots store for a dollar. It was a personal model in a leather holster that was to be used in a hot explosive environment for personal cooling. The user wore a large hood connected to the cold side. This would be highly filtered air to prevent oil and other contaminates through. I took it to my college to find out what it was. My electronics instructor knew what it was. He said that Rudolph Hilsch found this information in France. This was during WWII and he was a German Officer. He hung on to the research until the end of the war because it was fascinating. Note: I may have some of the recount wrong since this happened in 1985. Hilsch continued the research and tried to find the unknown inventor. Eventually he was credited with finding it and his name was added to it. I seem to remember that someone came forward and claimed it later, but I do not know if it was the original researcher or not. We took mine down to the shop and ran it with 90psi air. We were using a bulb thermometer, we were reading well below freezing temperatures on the cold end and close to 150f on the hot end. Hence the leather holster. We had to stop since the cold end froze up with the moisture that was in the feed air. Mine could be disassembled for cleaning and the valve adjustment was used for the users temperature control. It was really a sweet device. I lent mine to the school, but when my instructor was replaced at retirement, the incoming idiot through it away. Sorry for the long post. Been awhile since I’ve had a chance to.
@95t95t95t7 жыл бұрын
regarding your tape problem: The current axis of rotation of a rolling cylinder is the point where the cylinder touches the surface and NOT the axis of symmetry of the cylinder itself. This is true for all time, although the axis moves as the cylinders moves. Pulling the tape results in a force acting on the cylinder at a point ABOVE the axis of rotation (but below the axis of symmetry; that why it is counter-intuitive). Hence there is a torque and subsequently a rotation toward the person pulling.
@thedivinehammerswoodworks18957 жыл бұрын
Lol! Nice add in of Jimmy👍
@AidanShaffer5 жыл бұрын
Is that who the guy was that posed into existence at the end of the video? Who is Jimmy?
@TylerBoespflug7 жыл бұрын
The Note on fire was funny. At least you'll have it to light your torch if you lose the striker.
@Thunderbelch7 жыл бұрын
Lol, another epic video! Thanks for entertaining us mortals! Wrt the vortex tube, a few ideas for experimentation come to mind: What difference would a flare/taper in the tube make (would probably have to be very gradual)? What about if you poke a (very small) hole in the tube right where the FLIR shows the highest temp; the theory being that if you dump some heat there (without ruining the vortex effect), you should be able to get colder temps at the cold end...
@JuanFernandez-zv2oz7 жыл бұрын
Your spool problem is just a ratio. You should design a tape dispenser with dual captive planetary gearsets to fix it. Obviously. The world needs this.
@maximthemagnificent4 жыл бұрын
The teflon tape being pulled tangent to the roll made the TOT's Pointless Tangent all the more enjoyable.
@garyknight86167 жыл бұрын
Brilliant. I've been meaning to model the flow dynamics of a Vortex tube for a while now. I am a CFD technologist. The flow sim on SolidWorks is a good first stab but the physics solvers are not going to be as good as the "Pro" solvers in something like Star-CCM+ or Fluent. If I get time on the mainframe I will let you know what I find. Thanks for the brilliant videos.
@raphaeldittert93307 жыл бұрын
laughed my ass off and nearly choked on my sandwich at 00: 48 xD you sir....made my day ! thank you ! XD
@EddieTheGrouch7 жыл бұрын
3 dislikes so far... Jimmy, AVE, and Stephan? Nah. Thanks for the fun!
@Thunderbelch7 жыл бұрын
Could also have been mrpete222, he got a shot this time too :)
@bostondan777 жыл бұрын
Another great video, thank you!
@rogermarshall89915 жыл бұрын
Is it possible to try the tube in a coil. ?? Like a heated ring to try & heat water. ?? Or multiple coils just to see what happens or happened. Thanks Tony always a pleasure to watch.
@PhilWoodard7 жыл бұрын
I have used vortex tubes (Exair) and the hot side has a Z or N (orientation upto user) shaped piece of metal inside. I suspect this creates a higher pressure region by acting as a sort of diffuser which turns part of the flow back towards the coldside. This is before to air reaches the valve in that design. My personal best with 60psig shop air and a 50cfm disc inside was -95F on the cold side. We use them to freeze water in pipes for a temporary plug.
@PeterWMeek7 жыл бұрын
The commercial vortex tube I have (not because I had any particular use in mind, but just for the "cool {ha-ha} factor") says that opening the hot end valve reduces cold air flow and lowers the temperature. So it looks like you get to choose "how cold" or "how much". BTW the hot air valve looks more like a needle valve rather than the fairly wide open rig that you have. Edit: (based on the idea of putting vortex tubes in series) any back pressure on the cold side seriously compromises the effect. No stacked vortex tubes for you, Tony.
@eformance7 жыл бұрын
Wrong, 2 meters isn't 78 inches, it's 144Mhz!
@rogermarshall89915 жыл бұрын
Or a huge power bill ???
@michaelt.93724 жыл бұрын
I'm so happy someone made this comment. Someone is gonna try telling me that 70cm is 27.559" not 440mhz
@Lierofox4 жыл бұрын
@@michaelt.9372 You guys sure are hamming it up in here!
@twotone30703 жыл бұрын
Actually 78 inches is 2 metres. 2 meters are just useful.
@gamemeister273 жыл бұрын
@@twotone3070 I've been walking on feet my entire life. The only thing meter has ever done for me is tell me what my power bill is gonna be.
@jeramydowns24874 жыл бұрын
I've watched this video many times. Don't watch it late at night if you have a dog. He woke up and is now begging for a treat lol
@ErosNicolau7 жыл бұрын
:))) Watthias, Hank Bakes, KeepYaDintheVice, all these are guys whose vidjeos I'm watching with the same zest as am watching yours!
@MrZenerTech4 жыл бұрын
Wow you never fail to educate -and- amuse me! ;~)
@Talisman-tb6vw5 жыл бұрын
The vortex tubes I've used needed 90psi minimum and ran best at 120 to 150 psi. So I installed a new air compressor with my $50,000 I had laying around. Then I was able to run all 8 vortex tubes in the electrical cabinets to keep the pesky electrons happy.
@kevinbarnard3502 Жыл бұрын
The pulling the tape off the spool tangent brought back a distant memory: Physics is fun. Just ask Mr Wizard.
@idopyrotechnics7 жыл бұрын
Hey, I loved the video, thanks for the answer on the original comment and in this video, it's always appreciated!
@eriknyvelius83326 жыл бұрын
Haha i love this channel! Such a funny guy🤣
@YodaWhat6 жыл бұрын
+This Old Tony -- Twobes suggestions: Water bath for hot tube. Shopvac to air compressor inlet. Vary the air pressure more, higher. Add a larger or smaller tube on the hot side, that telescopes . . . Always assuming you still have any of this kit.
@JahanJamshidi7 жыл бұрын
very funny guy. love your comments (even more the quick ones).
@ShadowScotsman7 жыл бұрын
xD you are definently getting subbed, i love how to take a complicated and somewhat boring topic, like why the vortex makes the plastic tube spin in the oposite direction and manage to explain it using teflon tape in such a way that actually makes me interested and want to go research it even though i know the actual science behind that wont be nearly as awesome as you made it seem. excelent work man
@confuseatronica7 жыл бұрын
go home James Clerk Maxwell, you're drunk
@clydecox21085 жыл бұрын
Whatever happens, your videos are always awesome : )
@zhiqiandu31104 жыл бұрын
Perhaps it's a bit late to bring it up, but I think my understanding is intuitive enough: The entirety of air in the hot tube is spinning with nearly equal angular velocity. So let's change to a rotating reference frame with the air. We rotate with the air so that air in our eyes is static. Also ignore wall friction for the moment. In this rotating frame, there is an artificial "gravity field" that is actually the centrifugal force in an rotating frame. In this artificial gravity the tube wall side is downward and the center side is upward. And as the same thing happens in earth's atmosphere, that low altitude air bears more static pressure thus must be hotter than high altitude air, here the wall side air bears more centrifugal pressure than near center air. Thus the center air is colder and wall side air is hotter. Essentially we are making a mini atmosphere layer wrapped inside a tube, with earth being the wall and outer space being the center. Then the cold tube tap off from the center where air is cold. The hot tube tap off from the wall where air is hot. You can't draw high altitude cold air in actual earth's atmosphere to cool yourself because when drawing high altitude air to your house you must compress it to match low altitude pressure and the air is heated. But here cold air is tapped off in axial direction, it doesn't need to go through any compression. When center air went missing, the wall side air will "raise" towards center, depressurized and expand, because again the center feels no pressure from our artificial gravity. This expansion cools it down so that they become legitimate cold "high altitude" air and can be continuously tapped off. Adding friction to the wall means extra heating mechanism for "low altitude" air, thus the hot side is very hot while the cold side is not very cold. And there is wall thermal radiation the the "low altitude" hot air, other than tapped off, has another way to give off the extra heat by radiation out of the tube.
@24680kong7 жыл бұрын
At 1:53 when you have the hot end open and it sucks in at the cold end: I can confirm that even store-bought vortex tubes do this. We had one in our lab and spent several hours trying to figure out why the dang pressure gauges weren't working right. Also, if you put vortex tubes in series, it is possible for it to get a little colder/hotter, but you'll need a lot higher pressure air. For it to work, it requires a significant pressure drop. So if you have a 100psi drop across one and you have 2 in series, you'll need more pressure. Actually it's not so much the pressure drop as it is the multiple of it: an inlet of 200psi and outlet of 100 isn't nearly as effective as going from 100 to 15psi.
@elcidbob4 жыл бұрын
Seems like this is still just the Joules Thomson effect with the length differences and vortexing increasing the dwell time for the hot side. That increased dwell time lets air on that side hang around a bit longer to be a heat sink for the air escaping out the cold side. I suspect that thanks to the motion along the outer edges is a higher pressure with a relatively low pressure along the middle of the tubing and that you only see the temperature differential if the opening on the hot side is a smaller area than on the cold side. Basically, all the factors involved create a sort of "virtual" orifice some distance away from the actual one where we actually see the beginnings of the JT effect. It'd be interesting to see the actual pressures at different points inside, the effects of inserting air foils, and lengthening the cone inside.
@hatersaywhat89867 жыл бұрын
Btw, great production as always! You (in my mind) are the best editor on KZbin with great content! Be careful though, the evil head of Hollywood will be calling if you keep this up! Don't say I didn't warn you!
@CornHolePoker2 жыл бұрын
love this episode, very informative, I'm aware of much of this, but you brought it to light, and made it understandable to a jr high school drop out like myself. my question ( if you can read my mumbo jumbo from last comment ) ... If you put cooling fins at hottest spot, (or dribble water over it ) would you get even cooler air out the other end?
@professorbellorum7 жыл бұрын
Oh my god, just before 12" You really got me laughing. Great shout out.
@TorSmedbergGames4 жыл бұрын
6:06 That was more fun than it should have been.
@bigbossimmotal4 жыл бұрын
I couldn't help but notice that funky whistle noise it made. I wonder if there is something Sonic going on in there. Using sound waves to heat the air? Kind of like a Sonic Welder.
@wyowolf695 жыл бұрын
Is there a practical use for such a device? or is it just a curious phenomenon ? Love how you make and investigate things!
@ChrisB2577 жыл бұрын
More fascinating stuff Tony :)
@chaseweeks27087 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the laughs.
@adriangaleron32934 жыл бұрын
WOW amazing two videos. I didnt know bout that device. You should have isolated the system and give it a try, certainly the pipe is loosing energy the mid way to the hot outlet.
@ejose7 жыл бұрын
Do you think that if you remove heat from the middle section, the cold exit could reach negative temperatures??? thank you for all the time expend in your vids and for sharing ;)
@ahaveland5 жыл бұрын
Tony, I don't know if you'll see this, but thanks for doing these videos - I've been curious about Hilsch vortex tubes for over 30 years, but I still don't know if they change the ratio of oxygen/nitrogen at the outputs. As it also works like a gas centrifuge, I would hypothesize that one end will be oxygen enriched, and that could be really useful. Perhaps one day you could look at this?
@Sup3rman1c9 ай бұрын
Can't say for sure, but I would imagine the difference is so miniscule you can't detect it without gas chromatography or some other sort of really accurate measuring.
@ahaveland9 ай бұрын
@@Sup3rman1cdifference in density between oxygen and nitrogen is significant - I would expect the output concentrations to be markedly different too.
@gregg41646 жыл бұрын
I think the biggest issue is the use of Aluminium. It dissipates heat at such a high rate that it is most likely interfering with the proper operation of the vortex tube.