How Much Power Does the FL5 Civic Type R REALLY Make? *SURPRISING RESULTS*

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[@jdubbsvt85]

That intercooler is definitely helping you make that power. With the stock intercooler, IAT's creep up pretty badly with the FL5's which would decrease your power a fair amount.

[@adim00lah]

Well, the stock fl5 from hondata did 327 crank hp, so with a 10% drive train loss that puts you exactly at 294 whp. Not sure if the intercooler is doing anything tbh.

[@jdubbsvt85]

@Adam A. the 327hp from factory isn't going to tell you much at all. 10% loss is probably on the optimistic side when realistically its more lile 15-20% loss. I can tell you from personal experience that the one I drove the other day with a stock intercooler had IAT's of 103°f and the outside temps were 35°....imagine what they'd be on an 80° day...the stock intercooler is garbage

[@JD-rq7il]

Most factory intercoolers are 100% made for production, ie cheap! Plastic wnd tanks, small cores, etc. Once you hit roughly 100°, timing starts to get pulled. In the summer you are losing substantial power due to lack of cooling

[@adim00lah]

@@jdubbsvt85 I agree the stock intercooler isn't that great, I own an fl5, I'm certainly going to get an intercooler upgrade asap, and later on an oil cooler upgrade as well. 20% is high for fwd though, I would say 10-15%. I never seen anyone say 20% for fwd. Also you have to consider they are in california with 91 octane, which is gonna make a difference as well. Prl on 93 octane was able to get 302 to the wheels on a stock fl5, so if it's 15% from there, the type r is about 355 fly which seems a bit too high. It's probably about 12% loss, which puts the crank hp at around 345.

[@tyhyhh]

@@jdubbsvt85 a fwd car aint losing no 20% lol 10%-12% for a modern fwd car

[@rickeybradley2635]

Thanks Dustin for giving these great videos on the FL5. It's giving me all kinds of ideas. Looking forward to this journey on your FL5.

[@riddlemethis01]

Cool video but I'm a car data nerd anyway so I love these kind of vehicles. It's cool that you're starting with a brand new unmodified car so you can track the progress as you modify it.

[@justwingingit1]

Hey Dustin! Just found you on You Tube and subscribed due to your positive vibes/educational install video. You actually have me convinced that I can do the same. I owned 2 FK8s(one stock/one modified). Just bought a 21 Accord with 9k miles and plan on doing as many SMOG legal mods that I can since it’s a used car. Calif. DMV as you know offers the option to bypass smog for 8 years on a new car if you pay 50 bucks every two years I believe. I still have my FK8 turbo from my 21 CTR but I just saw a Hondata video showcasing how much better the FL5 Turbo is compared to the FK8’s when installed on an Accord 2.0t. Not sure if this is an under the radar/smog option for me but I found it to be an interesting potential option. Look forward to your future videos and just wanted to say positive vibes always trumps hate…especially in the comment section!😁👍👍👍

[@JorgeCabrera-zh7yr]

Yes the main purpose for the intercooler is consistency and cooling obviously but I could tell you that on my car which is a VN it definitely gave me more power

[@jpmotorsport4728]

PRL doing its job there bro 👍😎 Great results and this is the start ! This is gonna be a great build 👍🔥🔥🔥

[@vrstltrades]

The FL5 kinda grows in me, because of Dut's videos! My man!

[@maekshyft2789]

I'll honestly be super interested in seeing what it looks like lowered. The FL5 already has a mean look to it, I think the lowered stance will just add to it. I"m curious what all you're wanting to do to it? Like obviously, once those parts become more available for it :)

[@dustiinw]

It’s gonna be great! Suspension is on the way 👍🏼

[@adim00lah]

On hondata's hub dyno they did 327 on 91 and 340 on 93 octane. At around 10% drive train loss that puts us at exactly the 294 you pulled. So on 93 octane at the same drivetrain loss you'd be looking at like 306 whp. Glad I don't live in cali and I can get 93 at the pump.

[@LoXHumaN]

We just use e85 anyways so not the biggest deal that we don’t get 93

[@adim00lah]

@@LoXHumaN That's awesome, but unfortunately a lot of people out in cali don't their cars converted to run on e85. Not everyone even wants to do this conversion, myself included. I want to keep mine stock. I live on over 6 figures a year now, God forbid i fall on hard times, I can get way more for a stock fl5 than a modded one. This car isn't just a toy for me, it's an investment, like a house.

[@WDLC1911]

GTFO of California… while you still can.

[@codyallen9188]

Gotta suck paying that much for 91 it's little over 4 for 93 in TN great video as always thing is beautiful excited for the future!

[@machwiz]

The induction noises on these type rs are crazy

[@jparreno]

20years ago when I was much more into the scene… we called the Mustang Dyno the Ego killer… seems like that hasn’t changed one bit. 🤪

[@vtec-619]

Type R looking sweet!!🙌💯

[@benpatterson8924]

Feels like Dustin sold his soul to get this car

[@areallytallguy]

Yeah, like it’s a great car but pretty dang tired how nearly all car reviews are provided by the companies. Everyone is biased. Same thing happens with video game reviews, tech, etc. Can’t speak the complete truth for worry of companies no longer providing review units. That’s why I like people like Scotty Kilmer, or Colin Moriarty(sacred symbols PlayStation podcast) who speak the complete truth/don’t work with companies to get review codes, etc.

[@commentmancommentman1658]

I've seen so many people cry and say this is the best car in the world😂, honda fanbois always makes me laugh HAHAHA.

[@514aam]

​@@commentmancommentman1658 not even close to top 20 best car in the world, but go and drive one, they are touge beasts, they are fast, fun and reliable, they are great cars, sure, not better than a BMW M3, or a A45S, but hey, miles ahead of the golf GTI or A35, also miles ahead of the Audi S3.

[@Benjammin43]

@@areallytallguy yup… “sponsored by honda” = biased review

[@JD-rq7il]

Just like others have said, it's the intercooler making those peak gains, as no timing has to be pulled due to high intake temps. An intercooler is absolutely a power gain.

[@djaric]

I'm curious to what these dyno in comfort mode, sport mode, and +R mode. I see that you're dynoing in sport mode? Why is that? Can definitely feel a power cut when switching to comfort mode. I'm not sure if sport and +r are that different.

[@christopherharris6005]

Awesome video as always Dustin. The FL5 is so awesome can't wait to see it hit 600 HP.

[@nighthawk0077]

Way out of the sweet spot. Max is 450 for street use imo on a FWD

[@youcangetsum6871]

@@nighthawk0077 even at 400hp it’s hard to get traction on street tires all that would be no use unless you plan or dragging really just chasing numbers atp.

[@nighthawk0077]

@@youcangetsum6871 lots of guys are running 360-380 wheel on stock turbo with the fk8. I agree in 1st/2nd you will spin, but then again they launch like crap even stock. Best solution would be boost by gear.

[@EJ_Bry]

Hey Dustin, Idk if you've heard but there's a recall rn for the FL5 on the front seats, I guess there was a claim that the driver seat has a squeak and one of the welds on the bracket crack and can cause the seat to rock a bit. Other than that I'm loving the series and I can't wait to see what else is in store for your Type R!!!!

[@dustiinw]

I saw! no issues so far with my seat.. we will see if i get called in for the fix.

[@CaseyCollier]

Is that just a Type R issue? I haven't seen any news on that. [Edit] I just looked it up and it is just the Type R, as far as I'm seeing.

[@Mgsa14]

Sick video hope no Honda dealer workers watch this cuz they gonna add another markup on top of their mark up just cuz how good this car is

[@xFlare]

The FL5 is such a sick car, keep up the great content Dustin. When are we gonna get a Honda sponsored NSX build😂

[@franky_559x]

Love the videos I picked up your new cream sweater & hat 🔥🔥 first time buying from a content creator actually barely found you about a month or so ago when you were doing the Tokyo videos I’m not really a car guy but you make it very interesting to watch can’t wait to see the merch when it comes in !!!

[@dustiinw]

Thanks for supporting man. means the world. glad you enjoy the content man!

[@dwarfkilla91]

If you had a 2020+ fk8 it also has those gauges

[@getgaben]

My i30n was ECU dyno tuned without an aftermarket intercooler, make 234fwkw, 520nm. I installed an airtec intercooler with a fatty core, and a 70mm cold side six months after. Power was exactly the same, only difference is my temps were consistent, and heatsoak wasn't pulling timing.

[@SonikJesus]

Those numbers are amazing AND it was a Mustang dyno!

[@marioquintero17]

I got mine and can't complain about anything. Love the car

[@josedelgado4186]

Badass type R, dream car

[@tioraytm]

On another channel the type R was only doing 13.9 quarter mile.. even at 13.5 it's not impressive but hopefully They can find some speed after some upgrades.

[@samyu63]

I love it that you're still in Japan on daikoku w the Orido's on Larry's video posted just hours ago. Haha. Anyway love ur New type R man! Can't wait for it to see race ur GR corolla and fk8

[@Thawheelman]

If the ultimate goal was to get a "bone stock" baseline Dyno session why not just wait to put any mods on? Because now it's not bone stock? I just don't get that you have your own shop your own channel what's the rush?

[@anffelnyaraujo7932]

Love the video.I know you don't have to but would to see Tim drive too

[@stevendurbin9006]

334 whp dynojet pretty impressive 👏

[@Xnrte]

the new intercooler does look sick as you drive with how much it sticks out towards that mesh on the front bumper. can't wait to see what this fl5 is looking like in just 6 months from now.

[@DekiaryCarter]

Another great vid. Can’t wait for the next one!

[@Lllsteven]

We wanna see thats in that intake runner on the engine what make it soo big from the fk8

[@NoClassic]

I just cant get over how good those JDM brand wheels look on the car

[@angelortiz2096]

Type R is so badass!!

[@johnchriskeen]

of course an intercooler will increase power, not by much but it will help massively compared to that restrictive OEM one.

[@georgejenkinson6243]

The TEs r just not doing it for me on this car. I like the stock ones more

[@MrToastyman900]

i assume it wasn’t a full tank but $42 is ”not too bad”? I would be driving 24/7 with those prices lmao, My speed 3 costs $115 to fill up in Sweden🥲

[@BoostBlueFL5]

Honda did an amazing job.

[@sloan2007]

Of add that 12 % its 329hp. That’s really good

[@dashawnlang3888]

Whp or crank?

[@bapynshngainl.nongpiur3769]

Been loving it🙌

[@garage86zamora8]

Only on my lunch time grate to be watching your videos bro

[@Shoookiez]

Intercooler definitely added some little power slows the air to flow more easily less turbo work = more hp

[@yoltsbp]

Intercooler typically adds 10-15whp yes it’s a cooling mod but it cools the air going into the motor by about 20f more than the stock ic which gives it that power. also lighter wheels affect power readings too. I’ve seen 10hp+ from my forged wheels on the dyno due to them weighing way less than oem.

[@lowlifexalvin]

I lived in your area i just wanna know how you get the emissions to pass lol in your other cars

[@Robert1187]

The intercooler plays a huuuuge part in a type r. IAT’s would have deffinitely put a cork on that power band.

[@johny79action]

I feel bad they limit HP to US market, the FK8 comes with 10hp more in UK and EU.

[@refillz5281]

Either Honda underrated this car, or that intercooler is doing a lot more than you think 😂. Good numbers for sure! I feel like the stock intercooler would drop that power a good bit after heating up.

[@brokentradgedy]

You're acting like they haven't been underrating their cars for years...FK8 and even the Si were and still are underrated

[@rightfight100]

@@brokentradgedy true, but the FK8 did have some heating issues on track. Maybe the extra cooling mods did help with the numbers slightly

[@refillz5281]

​@Dark Abyss The FK8 had overheating issues which would drop the power though.

[@danninava9211]

1st time watching ur channel awesome

[@1Bad2SS]

Nice numbers! FL5 is looking sweet. Why didn’t you take the GR Corolla to dyno it stock as well?

[@dustiinw]

we will be. i'm on hold with the GR Corolla for 1 more month due to my contract with Honda

[@1Bad2SS]

@@dustiinw Ah, well that makes more sense now. I was beginning to think you abandoned the GRC. These two hatches are my fave at the moment and while they are very different, they still are direct competitors. I’d love to see you mod both and test them against each other afterwards! I’m sure your one of few who probably owns both of them.

[@frederickhalljr8947]

As far as the torque and horsepower It is consistent because you have a new intercooler If you had the old intercooler on there it would be going up when you 1st get in there and going down as it heat sinks The intercooler has a lot to do with how the air is flowing around The motor

[@johnconstantine2754]

Would the dyno numbers have been any better, if at all, at say 93 octane?

[@dustiinw]

Yes definitely

[@candidovelez4808]

Awesome bro! 👍

[@VentureOnMedia]

That simulator was pretty cool! Loving the car Dut 🤙🏻🤙🏻

[@dustiinw]

Miss you Pat!

[@Twinturbovan]

Can't wait to see the kind of numbers when you get a race intercooler for track use!

[@nighthawk0077]

He's already done the intercooler mod, I dont think he's going to, or needs to do it again.

[@nighthawk0077]

Looks like honda focused on flatter torque curve and better powerband up top in the rev range.

[@PhantomFL5]

I just went to the dyno, 298hp stock (Comfort Mode). Just k&n filter

[@WhtRthosebruh25]

When are you going back to Japan? I love the R34.

[@jamesvang4392]

That top end tho!!!!

[@FastLaneWithVitto]

Really liking this thing 🔥. How would you compare one to an m2 comp? Obviously they have their differences, but just out of curiosity….

[@nighthawk0077]

Dont think theres any comparison. M2 is in a completely different class. Still like the R tho

[@FastLaneWithVitto]

@@nighthawk0077 yeah I don’t necessarily mean against each other because they are very different. Just meant from like a preference point. I’ve yet to even see an FL5 local to me, so assuming I won’t get to drive one anytime soon either haha. But definitely curious how it would feel compared to the m2 as I have one!

[@nighthawk0077]

@@FastLaneWithVitto Yeah I'm not sure how you would compare without driving both. Interestingly, going by the Dyno numbers they are almost equal when you look at power to weight ratio. Fun to drive, space and practicality likely go to the R. BMW has more tuning potential and RWD is a better platform.

[@s58xeno]

@@nighthawk0077bmw advertises wheel hp, and m2’s are lighter. big gap between the both. don’t state that they make similarities in the power weight ratio when they don’t.

[@nighthawk0077]

@@s58xeno lol nice try, not sure how you managed it but everything you said was wrong. No manufacturer lists whp figures, it's always at the crank, and M2 is heavier. I would only own one for the first three years, then they become a money pit of problems.

[@luislopez7819]

I want one now 😅 the new type R looks amazing

[@stevendurbin9006]

Gotta get the king Jamie on that tuneing part when available too tune the platform 🔥🔥

[@mautsukuda]

A lot of potential. But definitely needs moar low. Lol. That wheel gap is hideous! 😂😂

[@spitfire3280]

91 octane highest in CAL? That's a shame. In Australia, it's 98 RON across the country...possibly equal to some beefy mods just in that?

[@manavkhakh9757]

294 whp is 327 crank horse power which is amazing from this car

[@nickadkins7765]

Could be anywhere from 10-15% drivetrain loss, so really it could be anywhere from 327-345 at the crank

[@haniefnoor403]

In our country malaysia, the lowest ron rating for our petrol gas station is ron95, the highest one is ron100, which means we got much more premium gasoline than the others, which also can make more power to the car i guess haha

[@haniefnoor403]

@Lim Li Sheng yeah i know that, what i meant was our fuel were much higher rating than other countries, which means our fuel gives better performance than the others

[@Shono731]

Dustin!! Incredible video good sir! Two months ago I traded my 2019 fk8 and it was Sonic Gray Pearl and bought a black FL5!! Both great cars but I love my FL5 just a bit more! Thanks for an incredible video and for finding out power numbers to the wheels!! Keep up the phenomenal content and i look forward to many more videos! 🚙😀👍🏼

[@dustiinw]

Thanks for watching man!! 🙌🏼

[@Shono731]

@@dustiinw you’re welcome brother!! 😀👍🏼🚙

[@Liz-bf7xo]

Looks so good!

[@Mugenkidd82]

Nice numbers.. who's the tuner?

[@rickeybradley2635]

I run premium fuel in my FL5 but I guess you can run regular in this generation.

[@jacobrev6567]

I am so excited Dustin his Honda Civic type r on the Dyno already

[@AntFragale]

To all who think the IC is simply for consistency and doesn’t add power in stock form, I’m just here to say you’re wrong. Charge loss is a thing and just about every single car with a stock IC sees heat soak even on the very first hard run. It’s not like it takes 5 full throttle pulls to see IATs climb too high. It’s literally on the very first run.

[@CLOVER_1219]

Personally, i think that intercooler mightve cause your turbo to have a tiny bit more lag.

[@moorelow]

Man I really love this car

[@ChinitFxt]

Damn that good

[@johnbabcock9766]

So this has an aftermarket intercooler and you guys are touting “stock”? intercoolers Make a huge difference and produce big power gains. I’m confused.

[@ChivosGarage]

Damn hella deleting comments, I enjoy seeing both sides, f k ‘em just leave them.

[@Mk7_kev]

Intercooler on stock tune/boost is really for consistency in power so I feel it only made the test more accurate to see how well the car can potentially perform

[@devonle5548]

Tuning day let’s go 🎉

[@tristangarcia7735]

Didn’t you also upgrade the charge pipes and other cooling pipes

[@federico12329]

The gas cap 🤣

[@algierredolozajr9964]

a bigger intercooler with bigger pipes are power adders

[@iamsavage9578]

Good shit !

[@Autizzo]

Do they actually come with a PRL intercooler?!?! That’s pretty sick

[@kyberbleeding9660]

no they said it was a mod

[@Autizzo]

@@kyberbleeding9660 ah, I thought it was a bone stock dyno test

[@levi99]

What did the fk8 get again? I think it was below 300hp?

[@CL9k24a3]

Where Im at all fk8 cars making 299-304chp and 245-250whp. US dynos read crazy high.

[@remsangachhakchhuak1738]

I may have miss3d it but what's the bhp of the car before tuning etc.

[@charvlim5159]

Had the US gotten the fk2 i wonder, if they would still be as hyped for the FL5 😊

[@lewischafer3333]

Awesome Content ever

[@onihensen]

I think 91 was a little over 4 dollars when I left cali

[@IDv8I]

What's going on with the old Z?

[@BOOSTEDDUDE]

You said it was only $42 to "Fill Up" the car. Unless it's tank is only 8.2 Gallons I'm guessing you still had 3+ gallons left in the tank. Congrats on the high #'s!

[@LoXHumaN]

12% lower than a dynojet, not buying it cause 293whp is a lot for a stock type r if this dyno reads low.

[@justinhale2160]

Hondata hub dyno showed 340 hp 370 tq.

[@hazzyperez6640]

wow!!! honda really put theyre love in that car... you said it so much potential... when parts become available for it i can see it in a class of her own... ✊🏽 #LOVEHONDA

[@user-xu7zb6dh3x]

what program is your tuner using ?

[@g0d182]

⚫Want to see that test without the prl upgrade Maybe not a balanced test compared to stock fk8 with 0 upgrades

[@yeasirarafath32]

I love you content ❣️

[@angelhernandez-ln8ik]

next video - first blown fl5

[@Skidz1818]

10:25 HP & Tor #s