Thomann Classic Guitar S 4/4

[@frededberg6893]

These are real sleepers 'for the money'. I bought one of these last year and have discovered that if you take a little time to enhance/upgrade, it is possible to make these sound much, much better. The appearance seems 'average', but the sound can be enhanced to be quite good. The To Do list is something like: I polished and leveled frets as needed, swapped to bone saddle, swapped to bone nut, put it in front of a speaker and played LOUD music into/at it (to break in wood sonically), I also very carefully thinned ('wet sanded') the polyurethane finish (I used micro mesh pads, lemon oil and micro fiber cloth to wipe dry). Of course, I swapped to good quality strings (currently D'addario titanium normal tension, possibly changing to carbons soon). Later, I upgraded tuners as well. These guitars offer a great price to performance. I hope Thomann keeps selling them and that Hora in Romania keeps building them!

[@konstantinsalafountidis5966]

Some one guy told me, they were made in Portugal

[@frededberg6893]

I emailed the Hora factory and spoke to a person there. I have confirmation that this model is made by them. It seems there are other models made by the supplier in Portugal too though. The Hora supplier makes a lot of sense -- Romania has a good supply of spruce and maple to draw from. Those are the two main wood types needed to build this guitar. Also, FYI, there are at least two videos on YT from Hora factory itself. If you give them a look, you'll see the familiar headstock shape used in the Thomann guitars and the 'native' version used in some Hora brand guitars.

[@konstantinsalafountidis5966]

@@frededberg6893 wow, it looks like good detective)))

[@frededberg6893]

Thanks! FYI, I have bought two low-budget, mass produced factory guitars from Thomann in the last 6 months. The Classic S 4/4 (the Hora-built one) I love. If you spend a little effort to setup/upgrade/work out the bugs..You can have a really nice sounding/playing classic for dirt cheap. (I spent $120USD + upgrades). The other (I think, but am not sure.. was built in Portugal). It has laminated back/sides, a nice solid spruce top though. That one I am only so-so about. Go all solid wood(s) if you can. They improve with age too. You can uncover more info about Hora from Google - search for Brands Of Romania. Hora Factory, etc. They do make some nice guitars. The top of the line is all solid cedar top, solid rosewood back/sides, ebony fingerboard, ... for a very reasonable price! Check out SM 20. -- lists for about 400 EUR on the site mentioned above.

[@konstantinsalafountidis5966]

@@frededberg6893 Still, 400 Eur is not much for all solid instrument

[@myra1203]

Спасибо полезный обзор. А качество сборки как?

[@konstantinsalafountidis5966]

на 4. 13 лад немного приподнят и маленький шов, залитый чем-то белым, где гриф прилегает к деке (12-14 лад) а в остальном нареканий нет, все хорошо

[@thehitman06]

Is it good for flamenco ?

[@konstantinsalafountidis5966]

I have never played flamenco. I don't know if it is good for it

[@konstantinsalafountidis5966]

Here is thomann guitar for flamenco www.thomann.de/intl/ru/thomann_classica_flamenco_1f.htm

[@frededberg6893]

The short answer is.. probably. The difference(s) between actual construction of a 'flamenco' guitar and a more traditional classical guitar is not all that great really. There is probably a greater difference in playing style and approach than the type of woods used, bracing patterns, etc. The differences between the Thomann S and the Thomann 1F flamenco guitar are these: the back is laminate (not solid) maple (the Classic "S" - is all solid wood!), the neck is mahogany on the 1F, the fingerboard is 'blackwood' (probably a roasted or stained hardwood) and the 1F is made in Portugal ( I think I know the identity of the builder but am not 100% sure so I won't mention it here), whereas, Classic S is built in Romania. There probably are some minor differences in top bracing pattern as well -- but I don't know that for a fact. So, you have some *minor* differences in construction. Oh, as a side, I would also remind that an all solid wood guitar will IMPROVE it's sound over time. A laminate sounds as good as it can from Day #1 and will never improve (and likely deteriorate gradually over time). The larger differences are really in how it is to be played. If you've taken formal classical lessons you'll know about (right) hand position, the 'sweet spot' (fingernail + flesh) to strike the strings, etc. One big difference you'll typically find (between classical guitars and flamenco ones) is how it is set up: flamenco guitars usually have lower action and players strike the strings (right hand) forcefully and often trying to invoke a buzzing or near-buzzing tone from the fretted note. The use of the thumb can differ a lot in particular. "Pure" classical technique shuns 'buzzing' or unclear notes! These are great guitars for the money. I recommend for flamenco or classical. You can always take it to a guitar tech/luthier and ask them to set it up for flamenco (vs. classical).

[@thehitman06]

@@frededberg6893 thank you for your response guys , this classical guitar back and sides are made of maple that's why i suspected it could have this agressive sound and that fast response compared to mahagony ; for the setup i know to replace the saddle and to lower it a little to make it like a flamenco guitar(with bone saddle of course)

[@Telazivis]

Does it have a tensor?

[@konstantinsalafountidis5966]

what tensor is?

[@Telazivis]

@@konstantinsalafountidis5966 I’m sorry, I meant to say “trust rod”. Thanks

[@heinrichplischke2820]

Эта гитара сейчас 129 евро стоит, ставь костяные порожки, оба, струны теперь уже можно опускать ниже, гитара уже устоялась, и струны ставь Daddario EJ43, звук будет то что нужно, и бас появится.

[@konstantinsalafountidis5966]

спасибо, приму к сведению