HMB Increases Muscle More Than Steroids?! (and 8% decrease in fat)

[@ThomasDeLauerOfficial]

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[@heroofharo]

I'm not sure if HMB was just a newer supplement when this video was made, or if the price came down dramatically, but it seems like with bulk supplements, leucine is significantly more expensive. HMB is 300 capsules/ 150 servings at 1g for $22, vs leucine 300 capsules is 30 servings, for $20, but the serving is 5g. What would you recommend, or should I be looking elsewhere?

[@decabeatzHealthWellness]

This statement is 100% FALSE!!! Stop with the lies!! You are just trying get more views. Ask yourself this question.... if HMB is stronger then Steroids then why do Athletes and Bodybuilders take Steroids over HMB??? I will answer for you..... become there is nothing stronger than Steroids!!!

[@danejr7896]

What brand ?

[@ronalonzo3976]

Im sorry but im 64 years old been working out pretty much all my life, and every time i start taking HMB my strength goes way up my muscle gain goes up and my lean muscle mass is so much better...just saying...i know everyone is different But it works for me...thanks for what you do..

[@Edward.44]

can you recommend a brand pls

[@ChiefLeviteEliel]

Where do you source it from?

[@oneiros1401]

Same, every time I start taking it, especially if I stack it with creatine, I am seeing ability to do about 30% more reps and eventually able to lift heavier down the line.

[@oneiros1401]

@@Edward.44 Optimum Nutrition, much more expensive, but I actually se real results. Tried other results, nothing, one brand even kept making me light headed

[@discreetman593]

@@Edward.44 muscletech free-acid HMB is best.

[@horseshoe182]

hmb has helped me. i,m a tradesman working 12h days. i had an right arm tendon injury for months. i was putting up with the pain, cause the moneys good. then i got a bicep muscle strain, i didn,t know what do. this hmb story popped up in my youtube stuff, so i tried it, within 5 days at 2g per day my injuryies are almost gone. i,m so happy about it. i,m 54yo.

[@louisfroment1879]

as a 52 year old builder I am going to give it a try, Thanks

[@CurtisCopeland]

@@louisfroment1879urious, how are your results with HMB?

[@louisfroment1879]

@@CurtisCopeland Hi there nothing yet to report. I feel a lot stronger but it does not yet show. need to lose 3 kg and maybe hidden under the winter layer....

[@CubanMofo]

Did you take 2g in one serving?

[@lukeweatherford8697]

I’m curious which HMB you used and did you break up the dose , I have tendon issues Thank You

[@darthsoulglow321]

Excellent video Thomas. Obviously this isn’t something that you can take when you’re fasting because it will spike your insulin and break your fast. But as a carpenter he takes wear and tear on the body. I would recommend taking this in the morning before you start work or at least by lunch. Catabolism in the muscle and maybe take two more grams before a workout. It’s all about the Preservation of muscle. When you’re not benefiting from the elevated human growth hormone from fasting. You’re a wonderful teacher thank you !

[@paulfleming4710]

IF...IF..it really grew muscles better than roids. The government would make it a controlled substance. Anything that really works..will be removed or under government control.

[@bluebook709]

Tell me about it, the VA is my healthcare provider and they have an absolute war on "steroids." They do not even want to prescribe prednisone when I have a bad outbreak of hives from being in the sun too long. Even T for low T they make near impossible to get. It is so bad that I am continuing my TRT from sources off the net. I have to pay out of pocket but it is better than dealing with government doctors who do what bureaucrats tell them policy is rather than what is best for the patients. I imagine insurance gives doctors a lot of the same pressure and it is all about $$$$$$$.

[@zzerxes]

It’s an amino acid and not a pharmaceutical product.

[@interconnectedmysticalflyi130]

If you take a sarms and ibutampren, Could possibly increase more than some people’s testosterone doses

[@mach5muscle]

Thanks Doc!!! I have been working out for years and doing too much weight and overdevelopment of my chest and front delts led to bad posture. Can't tell you how much these exercises have helped.

[@quantumhealthandnutrition]

I am still having great results with Hmb. My muscle mass increased more while fasting and no DOMS. 💪

[@ReverseGuy]

You have no muscle

[@eps3943]

I took creatine with HMB. It was never easier to make gains in the gym, at 5'10" I used to be 225lbs with a 31in waist until I was in an accident that destroyed my shoulder. Anyway, I used to try to make myself sore but it never happened while taking HMB. People think I'm crazy when I tell them this so than you for making this video.

[@chrisdonnell2575]

You and Thomas are right TRY it and see if it works for you. I am now cutting so like the fact it doesn't spike insulin.

[@danielj6559]

Hey man, do you take hmb+ creatine pre workout when fasted?

[@johnhutton4788]

I knew this when I started weight lifting in high school in 1998. My go to supplements were HMb, CLA and creatine. Use these three with clean food and aminos and you will have a more defined muscle mass. All of these supplements I prefer are safe as long as you follow the recommended servings and you can take more depending on your growth.

[@JimJamBonks]

I remember when creatine first dropped. That was an amazing time. Flex magazine, Muscle and Fitness, all the hype around Cell Tech and EAS. Andro was sold at GNC. It was a great time to be in bodybuilding.

[@discreetman593]

@@JimJamBonks yep, when bill phillips started EAS, and then pushed out the first HMB

[@JimJamBonks]

@@discreetman593 yup. That was awesome. The EAS meal replacement packs.

[@discreetman593]

@@JimJamBonks I still have his books..lol. 90% of it is still relative today. just a few bad pointers. like it saying citrulline won't do anything, yet we know now its a really good n.o.booster. yep those meal replacements were awesome.

[@danielj6559]

Do you take this fasted pre workout?

[@BrentLeVasseur]

Thank you so much for a clear explanation of what it is. That was the first question I had and you answered it perfectly!

[@angusmontgomery9874]

Thank you for your explanation Thomas. However trying to find the FA version of this product is like looking for a needle in a haystack! Everybody seems to only supply the CA type!

[@paulhaynes5352]

Muscle tech has the HMB FA version

[@AssyrianFury]

It’s don’t work. Just take lucine which boost mps more.

[@ska4dragons]

HMB...? Hold My Beer? . . . Okay I'll watch the video now.

[@weedweaver943]

"I don't even really take the stuff" sure.

[@maximusaurelius610]

Sounds like BS…. Works so well pros run HMB rather than Test/D-Bol/Tren …. Sounds like someone selling something

[@Kraftravioli]

You can't take gh nonstop. So take supplements the smol gym bras take

[@FLS713HTX]

I guess you missed the part where he said he doesn't work or is promoting any company that sells this stuff but simply stating what the research says about this stuff

[@rickywoods3101]

The do both goofball

[@tomasprieto9746]

Because it is BS

[@eddiestorey9633]

hamburger Has been around for years and was huge in the 90’s, everything old is new again 😂

[@irshad143ify]

i have used HMB and to be honest it does work… after 12 weeks the result is visible…and lot of my gym mates ask my if i’m on steroids…

[@bryantjenks3598]

when did you start to see the results? What is your age and were you taking anything else?

[@irshad143ify]

@@bryantjenks3598 after 2 weeks i felt increased strength…and in 8 weeks i gained around 10 lbs … after completing 12 weeks …i gained a total of around 19 lbs.

[@irshad143ify]

i started again in july this year …hadn’t been to gym or any exercise for past 2 years… my weight on 28 june the day i started the gym again ( my BDay) was 78kg ….today it’s 85kg …my fat ratio is 12-15%

[@irshad143ify]

@@bryantjenks3598 i used Muscletech Clear Muscle… My Age 32 height 6 feet … 😊

[@bryantjenks3598]

@@irshad143ify impressive. Wish I had those results. But I am 58. Been lifting non stop for at least 20 years.

[@maroney5828]

Never heard of this, where do I find it and how much to take per day

[@Jordan-dr9hq]

look on the internet of course

[@Oldskoolraver-OG]

I'll take whatever gives me biceps like this dude

[@ErikPehrsson]

Like the little guy at 2:25?? 😂😂😅

[@jestergreekgamer1275]

Then, you should take 10 years of hard training, while you eat like an athlete, not like a pig...how about that?😮😂😅😊

[@wread1982]

TRT

[@crosisofborg5524]

@@wread1982TRT does nothing for muscle

[@dvb8637]

Well you have to take steroids than. Which is pathetic just as this youtuber. 😂

[@willwroten4871]

Please someome answer. Is this safe for type 1 diabetics? I kind of got confused on the insulin spikes on this. I know diabetics cant take prohormones or anabolics. I have to be very care with what i take. Im at a point im not getting the gains id like even changing my work outs up with heavier weights shorter reps and alternating with lighter reps with more reps. I only take whey, creatine, glutamine, and bcaa.

[@jameskelly6479]

There was a study done the UK with creatine and HMB together on longevity and they couldn't determine if there was any effect. But they did see the difference in strength increase. Plus they said that there was an increase in testosterone.from taking the two together. I had been taking them for a couple of years before I read that and it seamed like it was true to me. I was able to get better progress with them. I'm 73 years old now and you need all the help you can get at that age. Both work separately gwit well but combined it was magic. The older you are the better they work.

[@JatinGera]

Thanks you so much for your comments. Can you share more insites if any.

[@H.C.Q.]

Creatine contributed to my baldness.

[@jameskelly6479]

@@JatinGera people should learn about the different kinds of muscles that humans have and how to target them with right wait for more effect on them. Not using technical names just knowing A1 A2 B1 B2 B3. This will help you to how to get to your goal. You can target them better. Also there are different systems to achieve the objective you want. Your muscles have a mind of thier own you can make them do what you want if you train them like a dog to behave, and they will obey. PS. There are percentages involved here as well like 30 to 40% targets the A muscles. Say you can lift a 100 lbs, then 30 to 40 pounds would hit these muscles with at least 20 to 30 reps. for one to to two sets. The B muscles would be 70 to 80%. The high B brut strength ones would be 85 to 90%. These all take time to work up to. Healing time can be different for each one and there is different reps as well, including sets. Also, do you want to be a body builder or a power lifter?

[@SP-sl6dj]

Years ago when I was training heavily, the best period of training I did was when I was taking a berry flavoured Met-Rx product which mixed creative and HMB. Sadly I couldn’t get hold of the product anymore. Having switched to other products here and there during my training I felt that the HMB was the difference. I didn’t know much at the time, but I became a fan of HMB lol

[@jameskelly6479]

@@H.C.Q. Creatine contributes to your baldness so there for all men with baldness use creatine. That means if you stop using creatine your baldness isn't going away.

[@lifeonmars2971]

Great break down. I've never tried HMB. But I've taken Luecine for years, and it seems to be working for me. I'm 6'7 300lbs. 38 waist I maybe eat 3times a day. My Wellness Dr. Rand Mcclain who awesome by the way. Is amazed on how I look and laughed and says.. ARE YOU STILL TAKING LUECINE? I say yes.. he'll reply with YEAH, THAT'S WHY YOU'RE CARRYING SO MUCH MUSCLE EVEN THO YOU ONLY EAT 3 TIMES A DAY... CAN YOU PLEASE ADD SOME SNACKS BETWEEN THOSE MEALS!?

[@paulstasiak8482]

"I don't even really take it"... umm, either you do or you don't.

[@estelagraciamedrano9772]

What brands are Best in quality and in price!! Is it good for women All ages, Im in my 50s??? For young women in 20s-30s too???

[@adamsilvester978]

only suitable for people under the StarSigns of Scorpio, Aquarius, Leo, Tarus and Capricorn. Hope this helps

[@rowandavis6672]

Just to let everyone know (bc 99% of the fitness community doesn't know this): Rodent studies with regards to metabolism/microbiome/nutrition in general have absolutely zero correlation to humans because their digestion system and metabolism are inherently far too different to provide any value. Just thought you guys should know and not base decisions off of rat studies. Worth noting that anything related to neurobiology with rats is very valuable so not all rat studies are equal.

[@mrbubblebuns3994]

this knowledge can also be attributed to vaccines by the way, and is a smart way to think.

[@ravenodinson7483]

I strongly disagree that it provides no value

[@jorjajorjan3863]

Your conclusions are very helpful! Thanks.

[@Revelation2-i3b]

LOVE THIS CHANNEL

[@davidr6914]

What about the dose and best time to take HMB?. With food or empty stomach ?.😮

[@flyingthor2650]

1 with your meal 2 one hour before your training 1 before going to bed.

[@davidr6914]

​@@flyingthor2650Thanks 😊

[@meelvis939]

I take it with a protein shake.

[@SHNASTTV]

It's good stuff. I could see the difference between working out with it and not. No noticible energy level difference for me but I see results more obvious, and quicker. You don't feel like you're wasting your time at the gym. You actually get results you can see just putting in basic effort at the gym. But you still gotta lift and workout

[@OwenG]

What brand you take if you don't mind me asking

[@buddhaparadox]

What dosage were you taking?

[@firejoe283]

Any word?

[@dmitryshevchenko349]

Oh really, so you’re saying we can’t just stay on the couch? Cray!

[@theguy1224]

I have been taking HMB for 3 weeks, before even watching this video (crazy how this came up on my youtube feed? lol) and i take 1G (1 scoop) of HMB every morning, to go along with my morning shake. I mixed it with whey protein (or half serving of weight gainer), cistanche, and pine pollen powder. Mind you i did change my diet a bit too. I went from 4 cups of caffeinated coffee a day to just 1. I eliminated a lot of the snacks/chocolate i was eating throughout the day and my lunch strictly consists of chicken, kale/spinach, and potatoes (i'm getting tired of the same lunch LOL). 3 weeks later i can absolutely see improvements on energy levels, recovery, and strength when i workout. I find myself lifting the weights much easier, not getting fatigued midway or losing focus etc. When back in the day it felt like the same weight i was doing, i couldn't even do, even though some days i could. Some days i just couldn't. There was no consistency. So i won't say HMB is the magic formula as i changed a lot of other things to see improvements. For 20 bucks on amazon, and 250 servings, HMB is worth trying.

[@oldironsides4107]

I started shedding my hair. Well just the center and my face started to look like a sad looking basset hound. Inalso just stopped brushing my teeth as well. Been about 6 months or so. Also threw a few batteries at a hobo last week. Sheering half of his ear off.

[@carterhayes4624]

Cutting out all that junk food and starting to eat healthy is enough on it's own to make you feel more energetic and stronger, with all that going on who knows if it's the HMB that's making the difference or not

[@subspace666]

well its not that surprising since google owns youtube i would hasard a guess you looked HMB up before buying it somewhere.

[@graysonwood8816]

yeah, 20 bucks for 250 servings is cheap imo.

[@theguy1224]

@@carterhayes4624 I didn't cut all junk food out, i would say more than half though. Before i would eat cookies or a donut and coffee mid morning breakfast but it's replaced by a protein/fruit smoothie. Then for lunch i have the chicken (or salmon) with kale.spinach and potatoes. Then mid afternoon snack i would do the same thing, either chips or cookies/donut and another cup of coffee. Now that's replaced by a whey isolate protein shake. I get home from work and have decaf cup of coffee when before EVERYTHING was caffeinated coffee. Then for dinner will be whatever i can make or find. So it's not a perfect diet but i did make some improvements. With those improvements i noticed more energy throughout the day and i just feel better. I'm sure if i went on a strict ZERO junk food diet i would feel even more amazing but i'm not trying to do all that because while it's good to start eating a bit healthier, i am trying to bulk so i need calories.

[@christinaherren]

I don't work out much, just Pilates for strength training. Would this benefit me at all.?

[@stevenmoore3480]

no

[@richardlawson6787]

Yes

[@branboom3342]

Maybe

[@happylucky7354]

Yes

[@roninwarrior216]

Any good hmb product?

[@partabillo6500]

Ronin ! Changed my life. I will never eat the same ever again."Unless you physically trip and your face lands in a box 4.Fo/stacking without risk combine all and all legal safe ronin warrior

[@timwilkerson7523]

I’m on 450 test cyp and 300 npp per week and 20mg anavar per day. Should I switch over?

[@monokumannius4522]

You need more. Tren hard, eat clen anavar give up. Good luck

[@Icecold0505]

Best troll post

[@blood_sausage9620]

Id add tren and mast for that real HARDD look

[@TheLom1011]

Absolutely, don't wait.

[@jackcaptain5476]

16 iu/day hgh.

[@the_oni_desdenova]

Well a supplement store owner i trust said to me when asked about hmb that it is slightly more effective than leucine that you have to take it for a long time period in order to notice its full effect and that it will make you smell

[@sn41175]

I’ve used HMB before and now just got on it again and recently I’ve had joint pain from working out 4 days a week and training jiujitsu. My experience is my joint pain started to go away literally and I don’t mean to post this just to talk but I mean it literally went away the first day I got back on HMB ( no joke ) I take muscle tech HMB it’s a great product. I was also feeling like I wasn’t recovering fully as of late due to all my training. Now I feel fantastic it’s what I really needed. I did research the first time I got on it just to make sure I wasn’t harming my own health taking it. I’m 47 years old and seeing the positive research made me want to use it and I have no regrets. I highly recommend it. Even if you don’t believe me try to research it first and have your own assumptions. I absolutely love it I know the p90x guy has a HMB product I saw which I see positive reviews it’s worth checking out.

[@alantan6786]

Same thing happened to me. I'm in my 50's and was just taking Creatine. I was sore all the time so I wasn't training as much. As soon as I started taking HMB, the muscle soreness went away. It literally disappeared the next day. I do get muscle fatigue which prevents me from training everyday but the soreness is minimal even after a very hard work out. The other side effect I noticed is that I'm constantly hungry, famished in fact.

[@libracordial]

Was the product you were taking the MuscleTech Clear Muscle (which says “HMB Free Acid” on it)?

[@BeerkegGarage]

10:09 your not getting soreness because you are not switching up your routine enough. Muscle memory is the reason for that, instead of weight lifting so intense crossfit excercises. Superset push ups with pull-ups/ plyo push-ups with muscle ups. Get crazy with it and punish yourself

[@dcruzn8131]

Where to get it?

[@jabanichan9531]

dcruzn ! Never try to rush things or this[ kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z5_Sn3eun66Ahq8 ] could be the outcome.

[@Carywilliford]

How is hmb on the liver. I’ve lost 48 lbs on keto between your videos and Dr berg. Thanks for all you two do. I feel way better. I have nafl and it’s all but gone. I went from 209 to 161 and still need to lose a few more before I start bulking up.

[@BANGbucketHEAD]

Okay I'm interested best supplier where to get it and how much does it cost?

[@chaosdweller]

Same

[@Namenotneeded470]

I get it from my heroin dealer

[@hobologna]

I prefer plant based protien as whey is hard on my stomache and gives me body acne. I still use some casien and even mix my Vega Sport shake with whole milk some mornings for extra calories. Will HMB help convert plant protein more efficiently?

[@alexdenommee3219]

I have supplemented HMB-ca for over 8 years now. I don't like the fact that you don't get into a tldr for people who don't understand you. The basics of HMB is that it's a leucine metabolite used to prevent catabolism, it does not promote anabolism, it's used in muscle wasting diseases and those on chemo, and also in livestock. It has minimal to no effect in all moderately trained individuals. The only use it would have in trained individuals is for cuts/caloric deficits which require preventing going catabolic, the same reason I use it. It's not recommended for anyone or anything tbh. Taurine is where the magic is

[@johnjones8664]

What is it about taurine

[@whatwilliswastalkingabout]

Just started using HMB three weeks ago. I’m going to put it right up there with Creatine and ZMA. Fantastic results. The drawback? The smell is somewhere between gym socks, split oak and zesty Doritos.

[@ddl4374]

Yet Is that really a DOWNSIDE ?

[@nashambenyisrael7689]

Lol

[@memejest]

Does it make you smell?

[@whatwilliswastalkingabout]

@@memejest VERY good question. And for the answer to that, you’ll have to ask my wife😂 Honestly though, I haven’t noticed anything.

[@memejest]

@@whatwilliswastalkingabout lol, ok thinks for getting back to me.

[@luloops]

I started taking it about a month ago and I def. see and feel the difference. I am smack right in the middle of menopause and it has helped my recovery after work...my job is fairly physical. My skin texture is better too.

[@chassiex3]

Thank you for sharing!

[@kathyjenkins4067]

Sounds awesome!

[@ph3n1xryse]

as a woman of a certain age( will be 50 in June 2023), I appreciate this comment

[@ph3n1xryse]

also may i ask which product you use?

[@kathyjenkins4067]

Can you tell us the name of the brand you are taking?

[@robertholmes2306]

HMB has been debated for over 25 years. And still no real answer to if It works.or not I first read about it in Muscle Media 2000. If I try it. I would probably start with 3 grams a day. And maybe later add 400mg of ATP. But if it really works it would of caught on by now.

[@saintoflastresorts2272]

Depends because supplements is the wild wild west. Companies can but fillers.

[@SD-unlimited]

I may still have one of the first issues of MM2K where Bill Phillips was breaking the news on HMB. I tried one of the first batches before it was EAS branded. It -may- have helped with recovery? But I was much younger back then so maybe it’s more beneficial as you age.

[@MattDxstined]

@@lightbeingpontifex LOL just buy some powdered mitochondria

[@robertholmes2306]

@@lightbeingpontifex ATP Can being bought on Amazon. Its not creatine. But they both work great together. Hell add 10m Boron a day and have a interesting stack. 🤔

[@HozM10]

Not understanding the insulin leveled. I am type 2 diabetic will this help me or make things worse for me?

[@poetofthekill2571]

I would also like to know this

[@Zainkhan-ct6qy]

Did you find an answer

[@geraldfriend256]

Not much spike at all.

[@Zainkhan-ct6qy]

@@geraldfriend256 did you test this or is that just a feeling

[@Zainkhan-ct6qy]

Did tou also manage to find this a beneficial supplement as us a diabetics it's harder to gain muscle

[@idoitmyown9068]

Is this safe to take while breastfeeding?

[@tarteashawilliams1429]

On my bottle it says not to take if pregnant or breastfeeding

[@piotrurbaniak6871]

More content like this:) Love ur sceptic and critical approach :D It is more common ur last videos, and I think its great

Long video: AFAIK HMB doesn't build muscle better than steroids. As for the first study the placebo group lost weight while the HMB group gained weight, I feel that's kinda relevant when looking at strength gains over a 4 week period.

[@Dr.MikeGranato]

Correct. Without using a metabolic lab to control caloric intake, the study is dead in the water. Equate calories in the context of a surplus, then they can begin the study.

[@liptonicetea274]

Take both lol

[@Mr25thfret]

I'm 72, I've taken steroids and I've taken HMB and HMB most definitely builds muscle faster in older adults. About 9 months ago, I discontinued HRT (hgh, hcg and testosterone) with my doctor because the only result I saw in 18 months was a thinning head of hair. I have only been taking HMB for about 3 months. All my gains have come recently. Best shape (muscle wise) of my life and I have been an (amateur after college) athlete all my life. The HMB extends the duration of muscle density for people my age. This and H I I T has changed my physique. Cheers!

@@Dr.MikeGranato To me it kinda is: Overeat and train: Gain muscle and fat. Undereat and train: Lose muscle and fat. So if I lost weight vs if I gained weight I'd assume that would affect my strength. Now if it's just 1 kg difference over a month then maybe not. But I'd expect weight gain/loss to affect average outcomes.

[@hjboss09]

Someone share your results I’d like to see before and after and what HMB does everyone recommend pls share a link

[@thafoundation]

Creagen -Creatine matrix has hmb and Creatine I got big pretty quick and I’m Hard gainer

[@bjornanderson9254]

What was your protocol for both?

[@kandy5129]

@@bjornanderson9254 keep taking it because there's no reason to "hop off" creatine or HMB

[@williamcotten7714]

Doubt

[@henrymedina9260]

Can you take hmb on fasting hours ? Does it spike insulin??

[@richardlawson6787]

It can't spike insulin...only calories can

[@nathanfoster7133]

Where can i buy it?

[@Corbots80]

Lol if it worked. We all would be using it. HMB has been around for more then 25 years. Cheap and easy to get.

[@dylano7242]

Hmb + creatine can help, but in no way compared to even low dose test. Hmb has been around since 90s and prices come down significantly. But leucine is cheaper, however to leucine can spike insulin if you need to be low insulin hmb better than leucine . Hmb pretty mild on the body like creatine and best when these 2 are combined, but you need do research and find a manufacturer that has independent inspection and proof the product is what claims it is . as supplements have no regulation in u.s. and can put saw dust in it and sell you it , you have no right to know. Many times if you have digestive problems with creatine, protein powders etc it's because the product is filled with unregulated filler garbage.

[@justinw1765]

If one is worried about insulin spiking, taking the leucine with a complete protein, or some fat, should slow down and regulate/smooth out that process more.

[@fatimazohra5642]

When it comes to enhancing muscle growth, incorporating supplements like HMB (beta-hydroxy beta-methylbutyrate) can be beneficial. However, it's important to remember that supplements should never replace a proper diet and exercise regimen. Look for supplements that include ingredients like creatine, protein, and beta-alanine, as they have shown potential in aiding muscle growth and recovery. Always keep in mind that supplements should be used to complement your training and diet, rather than serving as a complete replacement:kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z5_Sn3eun66Ahq8

[@dumbassjohnson3691]

Bro everyone knows

[@hanichair9001]

That supp works

[@DecemberGalaxy0]

​@@dumbassjohnson3691some people just can't help but spew chatgbt shit all over the internet

[@texasturner2313]

Great advice. 👍🏻

[@ianmcmullen418]

Did chatGPT wrote that comment for you? 😅😅😅

[@ryanmarshall3435]

Bulk supplements have great prices. I just started getting Collagen, HMB, and L-Glutamine from this place.

[@hosseinpershing6305]

I doubt about this brand quality, all of their products are weird cheap

[@dalemcgugan5174]

Is there a HMB link? Does he recommend a particular brand???

[@nonas4815]

Dale! Changed my life. I will never eat the same ever again."Unless you physically trip and your face lands in a box 4.Fo/crazybulk without risk all legal and safe dale mcgugan

[@vicecolder]

darn!!! I was about to order some HMB but then there's another video, actually listed right above yours if you search HMB that says it basically does not do much at all. maybe i can find more videos about it. that video claims a real study showed HMB doesn't do much

[@expertdo2443]

Robert! Changed my life. I will never eat the same ever again."Unless you physically trip and your face lands in a box 4.Fo/stacking without risk combine all and all legal robert suddeth

[@larrytate1657]

Does do much compared to steroids but us natty guys need every lil edge we can get.

[@geraldfriend256]

I’ve heard it can help retain muscle but ONLY during a fast. It’s a bcaa metabolite and bcaas do not help either unless there is adequate other amino acids to use.

[@blkarmani]

It supposedly works well for elderly but not so well in younger men supposedly if I remember correctly. I have use it with creatine and I give it a thumbs up.

[@dabizzness1840]

I used to take it all the time, its honestly just for people who workout in a fasted state. Slows muscle breakdown and speeds up recovery. It was good at first but i found just eating a small snack or meal b4 a workout does me more justice.

[@WilliamAndrews0]

I'd be more interested in the effect without training. All these studies are about increase in strength while excercising and then even try to compare it to steroids is kinda a joke. Steroids are so strong, that you build muscle and burn fat, while literally sitting on your ass. You don't need to do anything to get big and lean, as long as you don't spontaneously double your calorie intake. How would HMB perform on a person, that isn't experienced in training and also doesn't start working out after taking it? We know that even creatine pumps the existing muscles full of water, so you look a bit better, even without training, because your muscles get fuller, even if no actual muscle-fibers get added. Does HMB have any effect with no training at all?

[@elaineremains]

i was wondering the same thing, would it help someone with fibromyalgia who has pain and muscle weakness and can't exercise much at all... but there doesn't seem to be anyone in the comments talking about such peeps!

[@lightbeingpontifex]

yes theres an effect with no training but only old ppl and hospitalized ppl can feel the difference,,,

[@elaineremains]

@@lightbeingpontifex what do you mean by 'old people' .... i think i'm old!

[@lightbeingpontifex]

@@elaineremains old ppl like 60+,,, trouble walking sitting or doing any physical activity,,,

[@elaineremains]

@@lightbeingpontifex thanks for clarifying and for your original comment, i really appreciate it! i might not be that old lol i admit it :)

[@Accidic]

While I will not make any claims of benefits to all users, I can say with certainty that the effect while consuming HMB regularly (I started with it in the 90s) is clearly noticeable for me specifically. I tried taking Leucine for some time alternately and honestly did not notice the same level of benefit but would not say it's impossible. Recovery and soreness if you really are pushing is somewhat muted for me on HMB and bounceback is far superior to any other supplement that I've tried. Having taken it through a few injuries I also felt that I healed faster but that admittedly is purely anecdotal and could be the placebo effect in action but would at least be consistent with the muscle repair speed it seemed to aid. Don't get me wrong, I don't think it'd rival something like steroids and similar, but I would not opt to take those things due to their significant negatives which I've neither realized nor seen referenced in regards to studies for HMB.

[@Accidic]

Also, considering a 1.5-2g dose (most studies are done at 3g dose) was over $1.50 a dose in the late 90s (though $0.50-$0.60/dose was achievable (perhaps foolishly) if you procured it as many did as it was first being realized), you can easily find pure (human) food grade HMB in the vicinity of $30/lb or less. That's approximately $0.20/dose for 3g. I easily spend that much on iodine sources alone as I do not live near the coast and hate eggs. I'm also certainly not going to stress over $0.20-$0.50/day when I'm seeking out a $5-10 cut of meat (single portion) for a single meal.

[@SAFFRONINFERNO]

@@Accidic Did you gain Muscle when you were using HMB?

[@Accidic]

@@SAFFRONINFERNO Yes. But I was seeking to gain at the time. I don't know that it would directly attribute to the HMB (and is of course admittedly anecdotal anyway) but faster bounceback time with less lingering soreness would make me think that it would.

[@SAFFRONINFERNO]

@@Accidic that's great I was thinking whether to try it out or not 👍

[@Accidic]

​@@SAFFRONINFERNO I personally believe it is well worth it for me at least. It may be that I'm deficient in this or that but even if it didn't create gain, the benefits I can see when using would be enough.

[@georgehemming654]

Can someone,anyone,anybody please tell me where I can buy some hmb from I live in Birmingham would really appreciate it.thank you.

[@martinsalmon-oe2vr]

Amazon.

[@Glyn23]

I started taking HMB after watching this. I’ve definitely got stronger.

[@imlevitating___]

In three days?

[@Glyn23]

@@imlevitating___ it took about two weeks. I thought I’d been ripped off but because I’m a cheapskate, was determined to finished the bottle. Then noticed the weights ide been struggling with was all of a sudden easy. Could have been a million things, but I think that HMB helped.

[@bryantjenks3598]

@@Glyn23 Bottle? It is in powered form, what to make sure you aren't taking something else. I am 5 weeks in while on a 2 mg 2 times a day (one as a meal replacement and one as part of a pre-workout). My strength might have gone up just a small amount in certain areas, but my weight loss has come to a standstill. Wondering if I will start losing weight again or if my strength will go up more or if it is all placebo effect.

[@Braindazzled]

I'm not familiar with the term Creatine Kinase. Is it the sane as Creatinine? Because I was mistakenly diagnosed with kidney problems for having elevated Creatinine as a result of weight lifting and taking creatine.

[@mrmegabuckssongs]

CK is a waste byproduct of muscle and creatine metabolism. As a result, those who lift, who are more muscular, consume creatine and more protein will have more CK in their blood. If you're not lifting, don't have higher than average muscle mass then elevated CK in your blood is more likely to indicate possible kidney issues.

[@Braindazzled]

@@mrmegabuckssongs Indeed. Nevertheless, some people, Like myself and some others, will be completely healthy and yet excrete an elevated level of creatinine when they take creatine (the specific number that I had, and many others on line have reported is 1.43). As soon as I stopped taking creatine and waited a week or two for it to exit my system, my levels went back to normal. None of the doctors, including kidney specialists, had ever heard of creatine supplementation, despite ti being extremely well researched over decades. It's just something to keep in mind if you're on creatine and your doctor gets those test results.

[@juanpartida6516]

Stop eating processed carbs, sugar, processed foods,junk foods,wheat, flour and your kidneys will heal in 6mo-12mo. By the grace of God I bit chronic kidney disease. What I eat and ate? Carnivore diet. Always talk to your dr. I’m not giving you medical advise just my testimony and my experience

[@Braindazzled]

@@juanpartida6516 thanks, but my kidneys are fine. It was just that the doctors didn't know creatine supplements can elevate Creatinine levels. (FWIW, traditional medical advice says to avoid all protien with kidney trouble.. )

[@Saccara]

@@Braindazzledthe creatinine is always elevated from lifting and taking creatin. Totally normal and absolutely no reason to stop taking creatin. Unfortunately most doctors have no clue about this whole thing and always advise people to stop taking creatin cause of the kidneys. All BS, you’re kidneys are fine if you’re not taking steroids so start taking creatin again all year round. It’s the best and most studied supplement existing!

[@mr.sherrill9137]

"I don't even REALLY take the stuff" that's different then "I don't take the stuff".

[@TrojanLube69]

Because technically he takes it when using protein, or leucine.

[@havoc1zero]

You just said you’re on a “low carb protocol” yet I get ads everyday with you saying that eating pizza is ok. 👍🏼

[@liljuz1981]

you're confusing Thomas with v shred

[@havoc1zero]

@@liljuz1981 man I’m an idiot. I totally thought they were the same guy. I just watched a couple videos Thomas made addressing this and now I feel dumb as 💩😂

[@liljuz1981]

@@havoc1zero all good I thought the same thing for a min way back

[@jferristube]

where do I get this HMB?

[@jabdinnar8531]

Jim! Changed my life. I will never eat the same ever again."Unless you physically trip and your face lands in a box 4.Fo/stacking without risk combine all and all legal safe jim ferris

[@richardlawson6787]

Walmart

[@michaelblatteis]

My experience with Transparent Labs creatine/HMB supplement was a shorter time spent in the gym. E.g., decreased rest intervals, increased load/intensity, and improved overall satisfaction with gym time and work output. I was taking it along with preworkout before my lifts, the product suggests taking it 30min after your workout. I’ll be trying out the suggested directions with the last half of the tub.

[@zeus9271]

Bro im about buy an expensive whey protien and ihave to get the max benefits from that so iwant to buy leucine too.. In search of leucine im ended up here, which would you suggest me to buy pure leucine powder or HMB

[@Akritides-savvas]

@@zeus9271 no need to buy expensive why,go with whey concentrated ,why isolate only if u have stomach issues with whey concentrated

[@zeus9271]

@@Akritides-savvas im shredded.. Tried some mass gainers to gain weight nothing works for me. So this time iwant to buy something that really works for me.. So i choose HMB + biozyme whey concentrate

[@Warlock786]

Thanks for posting brother. Any side effects so far ?

[@pignapoke6772]

I'm 50. In last 2 years I've had both hips replaced. I have an artificial knee, pinched nerves and arthritis in cervical spine as well as 2 broken vertebrae with nerve damage in my lumbar spine. My hips were going for years and I waited too long. Atrophe was an issue. Excercise is very difficult because recovery is extreme. Excercise Monday and cant function for days. Repeat. I began taking hmb (and make sure I'm getting vitamin D outside) about two months ago. Enables me to recover and keep a routing workout schedule. I can walk stairs now without it being a project. I need fewer meds now. I cant say I know all about hmb. I just know what the result is so far. No weight loss noted but I'm just taking it one step at a time. Itll come as I grow stronger maybe

[@ShooterinOK]

Sir, I'm 53 and similar, 3 years on chemo fighting cancer - 21 hours of surgeries.Then the radiation helped me have heart disease. Between that stuff and my joints / back, it's hell. What are you using exactly? I'm new to even hearing about this. Thanks!

[@TheForgivenman]

Sounds like you need copper and Boron

[@jondoe170]

Also tumeric helps me with inflammation in the joints. Collagen has help me tremendously also with knee problems. Creatine is decent but didn't push me to run a marathon or anything. This KZbinr is very wise and does his research! Hmb is a must

[@kcsunnyone]

Is it only for men or can women use it? Also I had a reheated baked potato for dinner tonight (tip from your suggestion).

[@bannanaization]

HMB is not hormonal. It is a metabolite of leucine which is why it prevents muscle protein breakdown. You can take it whether you are a man, or a woman. Does not matter and will not affect your hormones at all.

[@abe5316]

Baked potatoes with butter,yogurt or ghee good,eating the skin is better if you can.

[@cristianfaison8238]

sweet potato, bacon grease and cinnamon powder 🔥

[@hikedayley9309]

Bill Phillips was the original guy pushing HMB back during Body for Life in the late 1990s I did it and put on 4 1/4 lbs of muscle my first month

[@r45-i8b]

Used about 20 tubs of this in capsule form each tub had 120 capsule's i took 3 capsules 4 x a day along with all other supplements + gym & cardio eat clean = lots of wasted money that would of been better spent on whole foods etc.

[@matthijsgeerlings]

This has to be one of the most well-explained videos on a supplement ever made. Great job.

[@JLUX100]

HahaHahahah ahha yea fucking right

[@xMw3PUSx]

bless you

[@blood_sausage9620]

I thought hmb was a failed supplement?

[@cyclist5000]

It is. There were a lot of discrepancies and conflicts between the few studies that were done on it.

[@lightbeingpontifex]

i think it is,,,

[@dmitryshevchenko349]

Are you guys inventing misinformation here?

[@aaronw5345]

@@dmitryshevchenko349Bill Phillips put HMB on the map 25 years ago but it pretty much disappeared within a few years. If it worked, it would still be popular like creatine.

[@MrMortyBaby]

Is it beneficial to take creatine too??

[@hartoka8478]

Mr morty! Changed my life. I will never eat the same ever again."Unless you physically trip and your face lands in a box 4.Fo/crazybulk benifit ll safe and legal mr morty

[@claudiaharris187]

I'm getting chemotherapy for colon cancer. I'm also using fasting. I started taking HMB just this week to reduce weight loss and muscle wasting. Does anyone have any comments that might help me? Thanks!

[@the1stime]

Organic hexane free castor oil pack on your liver while you sleep. Add a little castor oil to the cloth every couple days. (You’ll have to apply cellophane wrap over the cloth to minimize the mess, and wear an old shirt.) Do it every night, with a heat pack for a month and see how you feel. A little DMSO on your liver before the castor oil is even more effective. Also, take a supplement like NAC and/or TMG to increase glutathione. To assist your kidneys with the chemo dissolve 1/4 teaspoon baking soda in 6oz water and take it 1-2 x day between meals.

[@lozgod]

It says it has an increase in basophils which is an immune response.

[@TL....]

"2-3 o clock in the morning, i'm comin in the door " - Tim Thompson

[@lozgod]

@@TL.... is that my guy in my avatar? He also serves as an avatar for a prank call soundboard called The Pissed Off Dispatcher.

[@haroldhurst2347]

How does one obtain this product?

[@R0T0RGUST]

Exchange “money” for goods and services. Money is a paper, metal, or digital commodity that is in your possession, and some people in possession of goods you desire may trade with you. Hope this helps in obtaining.

[@MrRarab]

I used HMB back in 1923 when a bottle costed $200. It was good stuff so good I still look 36 years old 99 years later.

[@martinsalmon-oe2vr]

I have a packet of frozen prawns in the freezer that are three years past their sell by date, and I swear by them for muscle and strength gains.

[@Otzyworld]

Very informative video

[@matthewsetzer5251]

Which HMB brand do you suggest ?

[@battyarom3619]

1:14 Never try to rush things or this[ kzbin.infoUgkxT1bhUEidupyWZ7Snmu6W9wm-v1IqIMGL ] could be the outcome

[@Thomasmollo1964]

He “doesn’t even really take it himself” 😂😂😂

[@rawx485]

I would like to see a saftey study that went beyond just a month long.

[@stefanweilhartner4415]

There is a long term study that went on for 150 years. All subjects died.

[@SD-unlimited]

3:37 It’s not much longer, but it looks like the safety study was actually 8 weeks rather than the 4 stated.

[@nicechock]

I hear they died from having permanent erections@@stefanweilhartner4415

[@MM-sq5pf]

​ok, may ill pass on the hmb then@stefanweilhartner4415

[@longjohncrypto688]

So was the bottom line that leucine is just as good? I have leucine in my cabinet for other things (longevity, mostly).

[@Jason_The_Man]

I’ve heard of severely overweight people losing a lot of weight on HMB but I have no info on dosage.

[@herlysarmiento9863]

Thomas, what can I do to help my skinny teenager to gain muscle... I cant find good videos in this subject for teens. I am worried. Thank you!

[@gman21266]

I am 57 now. And I'm still a small guy. But as a teenager I was VERY skinny. My frame has always been very small boned. Most thin women have larger wrist than I do. My mom and dad were brutal and had me doing extremely heavy physical work for long periods. And I was lucky to ever get a good nights sleep in all of my high school days. My teen life was work work work go go go. I ate a lot of food. But never gained weight. However... I also consumed a LOT of sugar. And I NEVER drank water. I was strong as hell. Much stronger than kids 50 pounds larger than myself. Never hit a gym but I threw 200 pound logs all day like they were toys. And I was ripped as hell. But still skinny. (I eventually went on to become a US Army Airborne Ranger at 140 pounds). But I was always really skinny as a kid. I was 5 feet 9 inches when I graduated high school. 112 pounds. So here is my advice: 1 -- Is your teenager too skinny? Or just thin boned? If they are very thin boned - then focus on building up muscle with more protein, less carbs, grinding workouts with good recovery times, and all the sleep they want - but only at night. 2 -- Are they eating enough good calories? And if so, are they negating it with junk food and sugars? Don't let them know you are monitoring what they eat. Just watch closely for a while and then make your best guess. 3 -- Is it possible they have a vitamin or mineral deficiency? Consider doing a blood test to make sure. Possibly twice. 4 -- Most importantly --- Talk to your kid, Show love and concern and understanding. Let them know you understand that they may not like the way they look, or the way other kids treat them. But also let them know that you believe in them, you are confident in them, and explain to them that there is really no reason for them to ever feel insecure. THEN!!! 5 -- Get involved with them - to improve BOTH of you. Diet, gym, lifestyle. etc. And KNOW that you will be doing BOTH of you a great thing. :)

[@MM-sq5pf]

Dbol

[@tjrex2001]

Literally the same advice applies to them as to adults. 1) Eat more 2) Eat More 4) Eat more

[@PuppetMasterdaath144]

Eat a. . S

[@keithwilson9378]

look into Iron man programs like POF but use these as guide lines meaning dont make a program too far off these programs . today so many over train . to keep it simple train every other day. try to make a increase of weight every week even if just 5 pounds on compound exercises

[@dancarlson8449]

HMB is and always has been a supplement that looks good on paper but yields minimal real world results….we’ve been thru this decades ago with Bill Phillips schilling it and nothing’s changed. Might be beneficial preserving muscle mass while dieting

[@dancarlson8449]

And I think I’d let a medical professional with an education analyze bloodwork results. There are things beyond this guy’s simple “analysis” you should be paying attention to.

[@PowerHouseWrestling]

Totally agree. I’ve done HMB twice and did nothing for me at all

[@jackaro0343]

any supps that you do suggest while keto?

[@AnDre-fj5lb]

I never trusted in supps except creatine. but I needed something replacing HGH and ibutamoren, because those increase weight too much, although both get the job done for recovery. now I started HMB, and I got through a very intense training, and as expected, my body couldnt recover at the rate it should. but now with HMB, I start feeling recovered, and for now, Im going through my training protocol, without any weight increase, so looks like its working

[@AnimalFarm341]

Think it depends on age as well, from what I’ve seen it’s great for older adults

[@jameskelly6479]

Does leucine mix with creatine? If not can they be taken apart at different times?

[@jimmyorton3276]

James! Never try to rush things or this[ kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z5_Sn3eun66Ahq8 ] could be the outcome.

[@rus75b39]

If you can afford to take about 9-10grams a day, then the stuff does actually work pretty good. Decreases muscle soreness big time, more energy, fat loss: but I think that has to do more with increased muscle mass. Reduced joint soreness. Slightly increased strength, but again I think has to do with some increase in muscle mass. Biggest thing was endurance for me. Very noticeable endurance increase after about 2 weeks. I did this for 2 months. Workout days:3g in morning, 2g before workout, 2g after, 3g at bedtime. Off days: 3g, spaced out AM, Afternoon, PM. I was 205, probably 15%BF, dropped to 193ish at around 8-10% BF. With thighs and arms about a half inch bigger. I personally had no stomach discomfort, which some people do. If the stuff were cheaper, I’d definitely use it. I just don’t think the results are worth the money you spend.

[@aphexish]

Any problems when you came off?

[@rus75b39]

@@aphexish No problems, you just don’t continue to see the benefits. Having said that, once you increase your muscle cell size(hypertrophy) that cell remains stretched out. So, when you lose some of the muscle size you gained while taking any supplement really, you are able to gain most of it back. Basically it all depends on what your goals are. The stuff does work, but unless your body is very good at absorbing and utilizing it, you’ll just need a lot more than the dosage on the bottle. I didn’t see any negatives except for the cost. Biggest thing I noticed after stop using it for about a week was the return of muscle soreness.

[@jasonsoutdoorsports8632]

Where and what kind should I take?

[@mansonfatir1929]

jason! Never try to rush things or this[ kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z5_Sn3eun66Ahq8 ] could be the outcome.

[@AmitK]

I went vegan for last 2 month, main source vegan protein, I had tricep pain near elbow for last 4-5 days , I ordered HMB , its not best version one like muscletech clear , but its nutrex 1000 a cheaper one, I took 2 caps today (4-5 hrs before writing this) , pain is gone, it recovered my tricep pretty fast. I think HMB 's mix result is if you are vegan kind of guy who taking kind of inferior protein , not much BCAA etc. HMB works pretty well in there .

[@MrObvious125]

All the supplements in the world won't prevent the damage a vegan diet will cause.

[@nathantrujillo3061]

How much should a daily dose be?

[@lightbeingpontifex]

i think 1.5g,,,

[@martinsalmon-oe2vr]

Daily dose is 3 grammes, split into two separate doses. Stuff works wonders for recovery.

[@improvisewitme]

Bill Philips, the founder of EAS supplements was saying the same thing back in the early/mid 90's. I use it frequently. It's affordable. And it works. Helped me recover from a torn rotator cuff. Great informative vid!

[@jorndoff2002]

“Feels like Deca”

[@jabdinnar8531]

HMB Magic! Been on it for 3 weeks, and it's wild how this video popped up on my feed! 😂 I'm downing 1G of HMB daily in my morning shake - blended with whey protein (or half serving of weight gainer), cistanche, and pine pollen powder. Feeling like a champ! 💪💥 kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z5_Sn3eun66Ahq8

[@bigglyguy8429]

cistanche is awesome but cycle it, don't take every day

[@Carlos.Rivera]

And where I can get jt?

[@hanichair9001]

@@Carlos.Rivera just see this comment

[@kenlawdhammercy5804]

If you think it’s a coincidence that this is on your feed, you should look into how companies share your data amongst each other. You are deep into the consumer rabbit hole bub

[@GlennMarshallRocks]

HMB (and everything else discussed on this channel) is a naturally occurring substance. So, what's the idea of posting a link to a video pushing steroids with the bad music...? It's certainly not in keeping with the ethics of this channel...

[@jerryholbrook13]

Where and how to get this?

[@fartimoore2055]

hmb! Never try to rush things or this[ kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z5_Sn3eun66Ahq8 ] could be the outcome.

[@larrypotts564]

I was looking for something other than creatine. My body doesnt want anymore. HMB powder?

[@jimmyorton3276]

Larry! Changed my life. I will never eat the same ever again."Unless you physically trip and your face lands in a box 4.Fo/crazybulk safe and all legal without risk larry potts

[@larrypotts564]

@@jimmyorton3276 thanks

[@johncalla2151]

The Jacob Wilson studies were held in very poor regard, to put it diplomatically. There's a lot of talk about what happened there. I wasn't there so I can't say that it's true. I don't think Wilson works for the University of Tampa anymore, FWIW.

[@ThomasDeLauerOfficial]

Yup that’s why I covered the debate a bit

[@eliotness107]

I used once HMB back in the days when going for losing fat, i fasted 16 hours every day and training on the gym 4 times a week and also daily hour walks. Dont really know how much it really helped my Journey but i did get the results i wanted so thats that

[@neerajkamra]

Im literally doing the exact same thing as you - but fasting for 20 hours a day. How did the results look after a couple of months?

[@borgir83]

HMB was a hyped thing when I started training around 2004. When alot of studies showed it was not worth the money compared to leucine it dissappeared. Im starting to see alot of ineffective supplements making a return now like ecdysterone, tribulus etc.

[@dapapaful]

Why ecdysterone?

[@borgir83]

@@dapapaful Probably because in a study on ants it had great anabolic response. Since its a plant sterol and works on bugs, it was marketed as anabolic in humans. It probably is, but in those doses you have to take it, you probably die of the fillers used in the capsules :-).

[@aztecgladiator13]

I've taken Ecdysterone and I've gained strength and muscle. Not insane buff but good muscle. Just ordered 2 bottles gonna start again stack it with laxogenin.

[@lunard8690]

Any suggestions for what I should take?

[@borgir83]

@@lunard8690 Eat alot of protein rich food and take a shake with hydrowhey and added creatine and maltodextrine before and after training. That will take you far. I have tried ALOT of supplements, some good, some bad. But in hindsight alot of them are not worth the money. I also added glutamine to my shakes. Cant say if its neccesary thou, but at least its cheap. Then its good to take a multivitamin. A PWO can be a great booster sometimes. Beta alanine is great for endurance, but most people take it in too small doses. It has to be taken for a month, three to four times a day in 2-3 gram doses. After that a maintenance dose of 1 grams twice a day is enough.

[@jamesbrown2375]

There is a lot of different one which should I get?

[@tripinvest8160]

I’ve experimented with HMB and I’ve had the best results with it in comparison to other supplements alone.

[@qwertyqwertyqwerty4324]

better than creatine?

[@tripinvest8160]

@@qwertyqwertyqwerty4324 Yes. As soon as you stop using creatine, size and strength drops. But, with HMB, body mass can be maintained longer as well as strength. Between the two, HMB actually contributes to the building of new muscle tissue rather than an artificial pump with creatine, but I do like the strength boost with creatine…Both in conjunction would be ideal for gains imo.

[@maxb4210]

@@tripinvest8160Why do you think HMB is so under recognized if it’s as good as you say it is then? This is the first I’ve even heard of this supplement and I’ve lifted consistently for 4 years now

[@PumaTomten]

In my youth I mixed HMB in caps with a machine, working out 4-5/week and doing both construction and lumberjacking I was dosing lots of creatine monohydrate, HMB and EAA daily with a decent diet on 2500-3500 kcal and my strength/energy was unmatched

[@leftysr2stupid354]

Unmatched..?

[@martinfalk4093]

@@leftysr2stupid354 his energy could be felt even here in Germany.

[@thekuba9352]

You are radioactive just because of your strength and energy.

[@93Beefcake]

i am in still in awe of your unmatched strength

[@PumaTomten]

@@leftysr2stupid354 Yup unmatched from any other method I tried before, too hard to understand?

[@constantintrudel3756]

I train for triathlon (half Ironman distances) and I have been trying HMB for almost one month now. What I can say is my recovery does seem to be a bit better / faster. Is this the magic end all supplement, no, but it does seem to help with proper recovery. I am also starting to see slight gains in cycling (speed / endurance). I will continue to take for now and possibly follow up with an additional comment with more info.

[@JonathanLifeisForLiving]

hat supps have helped you mostly for endurance marathon style training, thanks in advance.

[@Chronx100]

Yo, any update? Are you still taking it?

[@constantintrudel3756]

@@Chronx100 I actually ended up taking a mixed creatine and HMB. I Cycle on and off since, and it seems to do the job. As I train a good amount for Triathlon (5-10 hrs a week), I am definitely seeing results, but it's hard for me to evaluate and say it's the mix that is making the difference. What I can say, is my recovery is pretty good compared to without. That allows me to perform better during training and the circle continues. I will say though, it's not magic. Taking this doesn't magically decrease fat. Diet is still the key in that race.

[@seanspec89]

@@constantintrudel3756 what dosage?

[@Larimuss]

Hmmm interesting. At $50 a bottle I don’t know still 😂 so much stuff to potentially take.

[@R0T0RGUST]

None of these studies ever delve into the genetic differences between experiment subjects. Some people methylate different things differently. Some people respond differently metabolically to different substances at different times of the day. People more epigenetically susceptible to insulin insensitivity, people who have more or less myostatin, people with more fast twitch or slow twitch muscle fiber ratios…et cetera, on and on. Supplements are going to work with different efficacy on different people. I can say this for my experience. 50 year old caucasian of mostly Irish descent. 6’2”, 215lbs, always have had a propensity towards an endomorphic but overall slim build (skinnyfat). I noticed in my late 40s, like most of us that age, that my muscle tissue was atrophying regardless of diet. I have started resistance training as a necessity for metabolism preservation vis-a-vis testosterone maintenance. I have also used a technique for stimulating HGH production to that end. Here is what I do: 1. 3-4 days at a time of no carb eating, light carbs at the end of the day here and there on other days so my body remembers how to handle them. One or two days a week, I don’t eat anything until I’ve been awake about 8 hours. I mix it up. 2. 30/30/30 fat loss method; Most days of the week, I eat 5 eggs within 30 minutes after waking and immediately go do 30 minutes of light cardio (