Why Experts are Warning Against Fasting - Dr. Peter Attia, Dr. Rhonda Patrick, Dr. Gabrielle Lyon

[@ThomasDeLauerOfficial]

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[@ashm9953]

So have you changed your mind on fasting or have you not? We don't have time to watch multiple long videos every day man.

[@just-me6023]

​@@ashm9953 sounds like we are in the same boat. So glad I found SOMETHING! I'm happy for you and glad you found something too! ❤

[@benjiluck]

Great summary. Fantastic group of experts with varying ideas. Please add Joel Greene to your mix of thoughts and perspectives.

[@patricknagel9065]

....and who cares? 😂

[@ukmcltd5122]

Ronda pushed the cov jab and it really felt like she was doing it because she was told in the video it didn't seem authentic so I find it hard to trust anything else she says until she comes out and goes over all the bad stuff that has come of it like she did claiming the stuff she thought was good (unless she has and I missed it in which case I take this back) I'm not pro or anti fasting so no conclusion meant with this comment with the topic of this video

[@josephmonroy3865]

Meat was good. Meat is bad. Eggs were good. Eggs are bad. Fasting good. Fasting bad. I've been doing all three since I saw a video you did on fasting years ago. I'm the healthiest I've ever been. Went from 230 to 200. Remember, there's no money for big pharma when people are healthy.

[@ApolloSuns]

Agreed. Started fasting regularly. Down 50lbs to 240 and feeling so much better

[@asencyel]

the whole point of this long video is just to monitor muscle mass loss due to decreased protein intake as a result of eating only in a limited time duration. keep up resistance training, keep taking adequate protein and all essentials &antioxidants and maximize authopagy potential of the body, such a fundemantal evolutionary defense mechanism alone by itself can take care of so many issues fundamentaly wrong at cellular and even at dna level inside the body. you're good to go. untill "engineered" telomerase repair and elongation is achieved customized fasting regimes for individuals alongside proper macros and autophagy targeted physical training (this is another science) is the golden recipe. no other trash talk now in 2024 can prove otherwise. these are hard limits, hard boundaries well established after massively experimented fads purposefully marketed by the industries for profit maximization and creating consumer dependence on the status quo for the last 60 years starting with the invention of "american breakfast" in 50s&60s. we all know from 80's industrial campaigns against butter/meat/organ meat etc. only to starve whole populations with hydrogenated palm oils, carb&fruit juice loaded diets only to increase obesity to a level never seen in human history before!

[@josephmonroy3865]

@ApolloSuns It started me on the road to better habits. No more drinking. No more processed foods. No added sugars. No coffee past noon. 16-8 during the week and Sat-Sun I live a little

[@OceanFrontVilla3]

Everything in moderation, including fasting. And for women especially, it's not wise to intermittent fast longer than 16/8. One longer fast per year (3-4 days) is sufficient. Also: too much protein is hard on kidneys.

[@pc3903]

Content, views, $$$$ gotta switch it up for them clicks

[@jeffjohnson7470]

Everyone stay calm and just wait six months everything will change again and you won’t have to change anything

[@theselector4733]

😅😅😅

[@mikeallison2595]

Yep. These people are pushing extreme eating programs. The South Beach Diet, The Zone Diet, Atkins, Weight Watchers, Protein Power, Fasting, High Carb, Low Carb, you can lose fat and weight on all of these diets because the main culprit isn't so much what you're eating, it's how many calories you consume that causes weight loss or weight gain.

[@kendrashergold439]

Yup yup yup hahaha

[@Fedorevsky]

Yeah they always have to have something new to report to us so they will change it up to stay relevant and in most cases sell new products

[@Naonicat]

seriously lol i dont know whether i should fast or not. i really dont want to lose my lean mass

[@creepycrespi8180]

The reason fasting is dangerous is the food companies aren't making any money when you are fasting.

[@davidrapant6398]

That’s exactly why I’m very skeptical about these studies that are coming out. You can sway any study to get a result that you want. As soon as I heard all the stuff about heart attacks when doing 16:8 I immediately thought…..ok who has to gain from that? The entire diet industry that’s who. That’s a multi billion a year business. The thing about fasting is…..there’s no health bar to sell for that. There’s no equipment to sell for that. There’s a few books but that’s about it. It’s to easy. You’re not eating🤷‍♂️ I’d love to know what the mechanism could possibly be that causes cardiac problems by missing a few meal. I call BS.

[@parsoniareigns]

Yes it is deadly for the deadly dividends return for stockholders.

[@MusikMarina-ih9se]

Also - fasting is not necessary anymore, if everyone goes on ozempic

[@creepycrespi8180]

@@MusikMarina-ih9se yes, pumping drugs into your body to have your body work in an unnatural fashion is always wise.

[@AllForJesusAndMary]

@@MusikMarina-ih9sehow do you mean?

[@karenbuchert3377]

None of these experts referred to any medical studies for their recommendations. I’m accustomed to Dr Ken Berry’s and Dr Jason Fung’s always referring to studies to support ideas. I’m still wrestling with residual insulin resistance from decades of carb addiction. I’ll keep intermittent fasting.

[@WorldlyAuras-ze9yf]

Ever tried Chromium and Berberine supplements? That may help

[@PepeCoinMania]

These people have papers in a wall They are not experts in anything

[@PepeCoinMania]

@@WorldlyAuras-ze9yf😂for what to buy supplements when you can do it for free lol

[@danwrend6770]

Well, I am living proof that my weight was 290 lbs. Now I am down to 237. Fasting ,exercise, and eating smarter have changed my life.

[@HelenDagr8]

Ive been fasting since I was a teen. My sister has never done any type of fasting and guess who has diabetes? Not me!

[@evedavey2475]

​@@HelenDagr8yeah don't listen to the so called experts. You know what is best for your own body. The experts get things wrong all the time and change advice every 5 minutes. We all end up confused in the end ❤❤❤

[@lasie40]

It is worthy. I am 73 years old and living proof of it. I have been fasting for the past 20 years without any negative side effects. I fast 16 hours on and 8 hours off. On Saturday and Sunday up to 20 hours. I do not take any medications of any kind, not even Tylenol. The last time I had a cold was in 2002. I exercise daily from 0500 to 0600 hrs, do not feel fatigue, tired; rather, full of energy ready to tackle the day by standing up to 8 hours dispensing medications to people my age and much younger. I practice good eating habits and take my supplements. There you have it. Not bad for an old fart

[@etcetc3800]

Which supplements?

[@cielostack2698]

That works for you. What works for you will not work for everyone.

[@liveloveride1676]

Ok I agree it works for you and is good for you, but one hour of exercise a day is not a lot even at your age, if you increase your training load you will need more protein, what you are doing now is putting your body to close to atrophy.

[@nabilmohamadnasir8744]

1 hour exercise a day is better than no exercise

[@liveloveride1676]

​@@nabilmohamadnasir8744Only just

[@mikeanthony706]

I changed my mind listening and watching these "experts". I watch and listen to myself.

[@gatesroyale]

They all sell books

[@charflorida5433]

Yes! Listen to your own body.

[@robbatayaki5505]

60% of americans are overweight or obese because they listen to their bodies 😅😅😅😅😂😂

[@charflorida5433]

@@robbatayaki5505 Rephrase... Because they do not know how to listen to their bodies. Clueless.

[@robbatayaki5505]

@@charflorida5433 if 80% dont know, better not give them this advice. They should, like you, continue to watch quality youtube videos.... lol

[@smarro71]

Thats like: coffee is good for you, coffee is bad for you... I just continue doing my 18/6 intermittent fasting because I lost 30 lbs and I feel great.

[@risefromyourpain]

Keep going. Too many conflicts of interest these days to get any sound advice. IF does work.

[@Mate-it1zt]

One thing i came to understand from following these health advices over years is that there is no such thing as healthy or unhealthy in itself. Coffee contains many antioxodant that neutralizes free radicals. The average american's diet is lacking antioxidant. Thus the average american benefit from coffee. If you are really healthy you might have already enough antioxidant due to other sources so coffee cannot aid that process anymore. Same here with fasting, muscle loss depends highly on your muscle and fat percentage. So the takeaway for me is that we have to take account the whole circumstances of the individual, no substance in itself can be deemed good/healthy without the context

[@ziggy_stooge]

@smarro71 I am also doing 18/6 intermittent. Did you restrict calories as well to lose that 30 lbs? Did you increase exercise? Did you try keto?

[@Nocha-l2r]

Coffee is a drug. It's not good for anyone!

[@bogipepper]

For over 50 years the best single thing I can do for my health is a 3 day fast. Period end of story. Thanks

[@naomisasse9484]

How often do you do the 3-day fast, and with what? Water only? Electrolytes?

[@jm1733]

Very true. Finishing a 3 day right now. It has been my go to for a decade. Sometimes I go up to 7 days, sometimes 5, but always try to atleast complete 3 days. I do IF daily for an 18:6 fast to eating windows. I'm finding that I need more protein than i generally eat though so I will address that next.

[@9thebear]

Fasting has changed my life. Lost 36lbs but more importantly regained my health and don’t look half dead anymore. I fast 36hours every week by skipping Mondays, 3 day fast 4 times a year. It’s so simple.

[@loveroflife1914]

Once a year I do a 7-14 day fast. It’s life changing. People complaining about muscle loss have never done this. The weeks after a fast, I feel stronger, more mentally sharp, etc.

[@kavithanair2174]

Well said 😂

[@QuickSticks8771]

The one permanent feature of science is that it will inevitably change , do what works for you!

[@karlacaban9428]

💯

[@ginnylorenz5265]

AMEN. Thank you for saying it❣

[@ian-f5f]

Not really, so called experts making claims isnt science.

[@juanfermin1841]

I'm 60 years old, and people say that I look 47, I have been doing 16 hours fasting for 30 years, I eat chicken with lots of vegetables and some fruits and nuts and i cook with extra virgin olive oil, I feel great, never had any health problems and I will never stop fasting.

[@DebbieTDP]

47 exactly? Not 46 nor 48?!!😅

[@Bulletproofyourhealth]

​@@DebbieTDP the point being fasting works

[@DebbieTDP]

@@Bulletproofyourhealth I know by personal experience. I found the 47 mark weird. That's all

[@gatesroyale]

There's nothing weird about it. There's just a common trend on what people assume you to be. People always say I look 17 or 20​@@DebbieTDP

[@cielostack2698]

🧢

[@Griza22]

Currently on a carnivore journey and I am definitely getting enough protein. Feel better than ever, I usually fast 16-20hrs a day and have 2 meals a day.

[@dilwich]

Whilst you're fasting someone is losing money . . . . .

[@SamCintron]

Brilliant observation my friend

[@tombielecki160]

@@TruthOnly24 I should go to my local store and give them $10 for everyday I fast?

[@ghostchipoko6929]

When humans fast nobody gets paid.

[@LJ2K2025]

Not really, they'll try sell you some electrolyte bs... or some bs broth to break it 😂

[@captainmcnugget606]

And that's exactly it!

[@tjmasson1013]

Started skipping breakfast go to gym on empty stomach best decision I ever made

[@fernandodesousa9362]

I agree with you 100% I made the same decision and I feel great doing this. Working out on empty stomach was the only thing that helped me see my abs again. Nothing else was working

[@hotsky83]

Nothing wrong with that if you go soon after waking up and just not hungry, but also no benefit to doing that. Personally I'm always strong mid day/evening after ive had good amount of food in me vs early morning fasted work out.

[@df4443d]

what do you mean you skip breakfast? the first meal of the day is breakfast.

[@fwabble]

@@hotsky83 Yes, I imagine so, becuase your metabolic flexibility is in the pan, literally by the sounds of it.

[@feliciak1177]

I agree. In the morning I run without eating anything and then I go to work part time and eat at 1:45 pm when I get home and I feel great! When I eat before work I always feel heavier and not as good

[@SMathai]

Fasting was the most mind-blowing "discovery" I made for myself (I put that in quotes because obviously I followed others like Dr. Fung talking about it). It was like discovering how I had lived in my own "Matrix", got to see it from the outside for the first time, and now I live outside of some unknown prison I had lived in for 40 years (the belief that I HAD to eat). Fasting changed my life utterly, both as intermittent and as the prolonged version. It's one of the most powerful tools available to us, along with what we chose to eat, how much of it, the exercise we chose, and the mental stress we place upon ourselves. Play with all the variables, discover what works for you (and it's fluid - what works today may not work in 10 years as you age and can't do some exercises, for example).

[@HH-gv8mx]

I have always been fasting at least 16 hours a day. But in the past year, I have really been following Dr. Mindy and increasing the longer fast. Doing one 24-36 hr fast once per week followed by daily intermittent fasting. I have GAINED FAT, Gained cellulite, lost energy and it seems like my metabolism is stuck. Like now, I’m afraid to eat because even when I do eat healthy… And I incorporate, walnuts, nut butter, avocados that fat goes right to my thighs now. And now that I don’t have the energy to run like I used to before I cannot burn that fat off. I feel less energized and motivated after longer fasts and definitely don’t have the stamina, strength energy or endurance to do the workouts I used to that left me feeling way more lean, energized and healthier than fasting has gotten me. I need to get back to doing maybe 16 hours of daily fasting but increasing my workouts several days a week. Because walking and doing longer fasting just doesn’t do it for me. It’s like I have no muscle tone, no strength and actually more cellulite than I ever had before. 🏃‍♀

[@michellearchuleta7881]

Well said!

[@crand20033]

I was losing 1 pound per day on a 3 day fast.

[@bobby123321bvbv]

If the "experts" claim it is bad for you, what they mean is their is no profit in it and fasting is good for you. Follow the money on the study.

[@michelespinosa7396]

Definitely 👍

[@amitloutube]

right! fasting is great! these experts are newbees

[@DyceFreak]

Good and bad are absolutes. Only the Sith deals in absolutes.

[@startraffick]

Full fasting is positively impactful while intermittent fasting is done to keep the pounds off. I recently fasted for 9 days, with dry fasting firstb6 days, and water fasting the next 3 days and I can feel the huge difference than when I only do intermittent fasting. Real full fasting works

[@Vicvincexxx]

I heard many experts say sjooting yourself in your head is really bad for your health so I’m trying that out next

[@petebowen9031]

There should be a delineation between fasting for someone in already perfect health with lots of muscle (like these “experts”) and fasting for someone that’s overweight with insulin resistance. Nothing lowers blood insulin levels like fasting.

[@acools07]

Exactly, I do it to keep my metabolic issues in check.

[@kaitietheukulelelady5645]

Similarly, current exercises need to be taken into account. When I trained for a half marathon I could tell my body didn't want to fast. I am now recovering from a knee injury and my energy expenditure is low and my body once again enjoys fasting.

[@michaelcervantez3570]

Bingo! This is what I was going to reply with. Good job 👍

[@kathydecker7364]

Any of these "experts" been overweight for almost 5 decades? None of this constant guessing & disagreement is helpful. I've had enough, other things to listen to!

[@333Susanne]

THIS! look at these experts, all look in perfect shape and health, easy talk for you guys!

[@fawnburgess1441]

These people did not get ill and then experience healing themselves through fasting. I did. And it appears there are volumes more studies supporting fasting than the recent one or two no peer reviewed studies that suddenly don't support it.

[@HH-gv8mx]

I have always been fasting at least 16 hours a day. But in the past year, I have really been following Dr. Mindy and increasing the longer fast. Doing one 24-36 hr fast once per week followed by daily intermittent fasting. I have GAINED FAT, Gained cellulite, lost energy and it seems like my metabolism is stuck. Like now, I’m afraid to eat because even when I do eat healthy… And I incorporate, walnuts, nut butter, avocados that fat goes right to my thighs now. And now that I don’t have the energy to run like I used to before I cannot burn that fat off. I feel less energized and motivated after longer fasts and definitely don’t have the stamina, strength energy or endurance to do the workouts I used to that left me feeling way more lean, energized and healthier than fasting has gotten me. I need to get back to doing maybe 16 hours of daily fasting but increasing my workouts several days a week. Because walking and doing longer fasting just doesn’t do it for me. It’s like I have no muscle tone, no strength and actually more cellulite than I ever had before. 🏃‍♀

[@fawn6336]

@@HH-gv8mx I'm so sorry you are experiencing so much! I can't speak to your results because I don't know your medical situation or food intake! But I know for me, after 30 years vegetarian and juice fast cleanses, I hit menapause and slow metabolism. I follow Dr. Mindy, too. For over 5 years, and Dr. Boz. I had a cancer scare, pre diabetic numbers/ insulin resistance, and some related health concerns including 30 extra pounds of weight! 72 hour fasting on keto diet (whole , unprocessed foods, no seed oils, organic, HIGH FAT 80% of my diet is fat very low carbs) brought my AIC from 5.7 to 4.8 and my cholesteral ratios, HOMO IR to perfect. I reversed all insulin resistance. Cancer healed. I evicted over 30 pounds. I keep it off with IF. But low fat , high carb made me unhealthy. I believe that it's important to eat properly along with the fasting, and to understand the body chemisty as this goes on. I'm going to be 58 years old in June and I feel and look healthier than ever in my life. I get compliments on my skin and hair all the time. There are hundreds of peer reviewed scientifically supported studies on the benefits of fasting, and metabolic switching is important. If you don't follow true ketosis then it's simply "yo yo dieting" and can mess up the metabolism rather than correct it. A continuous glucose monitor CGM is a great tool I paid for it out of pocket for three months, just to see how my body reacted to certain foods. My insluin is down to 6 from over 20! I believe in the power of fasting , correctly, and low carb high fat.

[@sweetpeace5]

@@HH-gv8mxresistance training meaning weight training &/or body weight and cut back on the fats! There’s a ton of calories in nuts and nut butters!

[@YesPlease1]

How long did it take you to recover from your illness once you had started fasting regularly? I'm in the same boat, chronically ill, recently started fasting to try to recover from it. It's especially hard because I'm underweight and have mobility challenges that worsen when I'm not fueling myself. But my view is that I need to plow through the difficulty of fasting to regenerate my white blood cells so I can fight my chronic infections. Also the autophagy clearing up junk congestion and dysfunctional cells and organelles. My hope is that after each fast I become a bit stronger and eventually reach a tipping point where my system can resolve the overwhelming stressors it's under currently.

[@anthonyreid4960]

I am not so sure that they are warning against fasting. What I am seeing here are suggestions to be more mindful about protein when considering or engaging in fasting. For instance, suggesting being cautious about skipping breakfast is not suggesting against fasting, it may simply mean having your feasting period earlier. Eg. I used to have breakfast around midday and my last meal around 7 or 8 in the evening. I now have breakfast around 7 or 8 am and my last meal around 5pm. Then I saw the suggestion that prolonged fasting need not be frequent. I don't see warnings against fasting generally

[@michaelwills1926]

When the “experts” say you’re wrong, then you know you’re right. Keep cracking Thomas 💪🏼

[@yacinebektache1866]

"Fasting is the best medicine ever "

[@Bulletproofyourhealth]

Ikr

[@rayrwyr]

Still true

[@mesalouis8976]

Yes!

[@jose-anneleclair7561]

Agreed! 🙌🏼

[@allenbrost9564]

I think fasting is BS. Just change your food quality and you don't have to suffer by not eating.

[@Sopalida]

All of these people are fairly lean to begin with and they train hard compared to most. I think you should talk with Jason Fung. His clinic uses fasting for insulin resistant metabolically challenged overweight people. Fasting works best for them to improve their quality of life in every way.

[@fredsmit3481]

Thomas, you are mixing up what they are saying. Dr. Attia's stopping 3 and 7 day fasts is completely different from Dr. Patrick's skipping a meal. They are not talking about the same thing and you try to make it seem that they are talking about the same thing just because they use the term "fast". I stopped 3 day fasts because they affect my workouts, but I still do OMAD and have not noticed a detrimental effect from eating only once a day.

[@KIMRR24]

In my opinion, he's taking words out of context and as you say, he's mixing it all up to have people believe what he wants to enforce in this video.

[@prometheusrising8767]

is called biased towards fasting...

[@gracemarsh9707]

Fasting is good for people I eat breakfast but finish eating by 4pm/ 5pm I’m only eating 2 meals a day and feel great at 61 my skin is glowing.

[@robertstambulovski]

Most people eat too much ' fasting is not skipping meals just going longer without food '

[@BetsyRoss2U]

I fast. I rarely eat before 1pm. I maintain a healthy weight, I feel good and I am not hungry. Sometimes I don’t eat until dinner, depending on my activity level or energy level.

[@mhmdnazel1]

Breakfast by 7am is very important... last and final meal 6.30 or 7.30pm..You will feel much better.. As you age..missing breakfast will cause problems..missing lunch is recommended unless you are involved in heavy work under the sun..or eat some light snacks if u need to , drink water, and take a nap ..

[@lyns2686]

I'm the same. I don't eat until 2 pm or later, and it's easy for me. I know that eating earlier in the day and stopping by late afternoon is supposed to be better for you, but my mind and body can't do that. I'd be cheating all the time in the evening. I didn't start fasting for any reason as I didn't have health or weight issues (haven't had a cold since 1986 and it lasted 1 day, nor have I had the flu my entire adult life - or flu shot), but figured it would keep me healthy as I am getting older.

[@jomardel]

So basically anything “experts” tell you, don’t take too seriously because it will all be proven to be the opposite years down the road… as long as they get the views and clicks on their videos is the plan.

[@wickflair2976]

Social Media Science

[@DyceFreak]

If you remove your genitals you will have more blood energy for the rest of your body.

[@flyerelite5153]

That's right

[@HeroicCoachDan]

Consensus vs. Science

[@milycome]

It's all about the Ratings.......or the clicks. ❤

[@leonfrancis3418]

The thing about fasting is that no one makes money from it. We always think about the food and snack corporations, but nearly all these "experts" have sponsors, or a product with their name and face on it that would break a fast if it's regularly consumed. Fasting doesn't grease anyone's palms.

[@janapeony8561]

8 years fasting and I feel the best ever. I am tired of these so called experts like Attia and Patrick and their waco studies and conclusions.

[@waynemcdonald9600]

I am almost 72, insulin resistant, down about 90 lbs doing KETO but still need to drop a few more. I need more muscle mass....was never an athlete. Sticking with two meals a day until I have a normal A1C, etc. I eat breakfast and have a second meal early afternoon....about 2:00. In the gym 3 days a week with resistance training. Will start daily brisk 2 mile walks when weather gets better. Your posts seem to be addressed primarily to people whose profile I don't fit.

[@water4fire4]

Have you interviewed Dr. Jason Fung yet?

[@jvnonu54njl]

Jason Fung LOL. That guy is the main event at the circus

[@Macgee826]

@@jvnonu54njl that the circus you work at as part of the freakshow?

[@JPinShenzhen]

@@jvnonu54njlhave you read The Diabetes Code or The Obesity Code? There is a ton of research and evidence in those books. What makes you say he is in the “circus”?

[@JPinShenzhen]

@@jvnonu54njlhave you read The Diabetes Code or The Obesity Code? There is a ton of research and evidence in those books. What makes you say he is in the “circus”?

[@wshyangify]

That's his main Schick lol

[@dori.32]

Fasting is a spiritual discipline that is taught in the Bible. Jesus expected His followers to fast, and He said that God rewards fasting. Fasting, according to the Bible, means to voluntarily reduce or eliminate your intake of food for a specific time and purpose.

[@sobered1344]

Exactly. Fasting is meant to be a spiritual practice... not daily for nutrition purposes... 😂 nowhere in the Bible do people fast everyday. It's meant to be short term.

[@mmommo10]

in the Bible it says it proves clarity

[@anneg7411]

Amen! I usually fast for 16 hours daily, and did my first 72-hour fast at the end of Lent. At first I was worried I would lose muscle, but I started resistance training before around the same time that I started IF, and so far fasting has not resulted in muscle loss. I fast for both physical and spiritual health 💪🙏

[@Medic91A]

​@@anneg7411, how do you know you haven't lost muscle mass, did you get a muscular biopsy done, or are you simply guessing? Never trust personal anecdotes unless backed by evidentiary proof!

[@kathrynfriedlund3280]

Yes!!

[@chantaylor5562]

I fast since 2020 my food bills plummeted. Blood work best it’s ever been . Have a relationship with a beautiful woman 20 years my junior . Happy life 🎉

[@AlekTrev006]

Well done, well done indeed 👏 😊

[@James-N01]

Exactly, same here, intermittent fasting has only made my day to day life and health better.

[@cielostack2698]

That worked for you. Won’t work for everyone. Clearly not working out or running or playing sports. Being active requires calories. Duh…

[@chantaylor5562]

@@cielostack2698 😂😂😂 I can bench twice my body weight not many people walking the planet can your theory is dismissed

[@jasonwallace6945]

Most people benefit from not eating for at least 12 hours

[@dulaneyfit80]

I intermittently fast 6 days a week for 18-22 hrs, weight training and cardio fasted also 6 days a week. My weight consistently is around 240lbs, muscular and lean. I do not track macros, simply focus on protein intake and moderate carbohydrate consumption. I’m so tired of the experts stating you lose muscle, catabolic state kills performance. I have more energy, strength has improved and my natural testosterone levels remain high. I feel and look amazing, better than I did in my 20’s….I’m 44 this year.

[@Abiwrl]

Summarizing: Fasting can be beneficial IF the protein intake amount is correct. 1gram of protein per pound of body weight (or target body weight).

[@thewrightoknow]

As a Type 2 diabetic, I will keep on with intermittent fasting with a keto diet! Great interview with so many guests. Thanks for your help.

[@alphacause]

Anything, taken to the extreme, can be deleterious. If you consume too much water you can induce hyponatremia, which can be fatal. Should we, therefore, consider drinking water as dangerous? Absolutely not. Similarly, fasting can have benefits, but it must be done in such a way as to not induce significant muscle atrophy it can be problematic.

[@BOZ_11]

Yeah, Attia abandoning fasting when he was doing crazy 7-day water fasts regularly, is advice for himself, not the average faster who's doing 18h to 48h. The average person is 28% body fat percentage now (this is just below the obesity threshold); fasting is crucial for average Joe. The advice should be: fast for up to 48h, and get the eggs, bacon, butter, ground beef and electrolytes down you.

[@Myspiritualrhythm]

This is a psychological trick that GREATLY rises fears of body builders but what about the fact that overly huge muscles aren’t healthy for joints in the first place? Maybe less muscles via fasting is healthy for joints

[@OttoBoy]

If the concern with IM is deficient protein intake, doesn’t the issue presented on recent videos that the discovery of the body’s ability to utilize protein over a longer period than previously assumed offer a “best of both worlds” position? If consuming high amounts of protein regardless of the duration of the feeding window still offers the benefits of protein consumption, why not continue IM while reaching protein intake goals during whatever one’s feeding window is?

[@alphacause]

@@OttoBoy Exactly!

[@Cekatu]

​@@OttoBoy SIMPLY. 🏆

[@traceler]

You need to interview Valter Longo, Mark Matson, Jason Fung and other people who knows more about fasting, mTor and AMPK and cell signaling pathways.

[@HeroicCoachDan]

Add Jeff Volek, Dr. Don Clum, Tim Noakes

[@martinwawrzynczak5449]

Dung is a joke who ignores lots of nutritional science

[@picmenose]

I haven't eaten before noon for over a year and am in excellent shape, with strong muscles, workouts, and protein!.

[@HH-gv8mx]

I have always been fasting at least 16 hours a day. But in the past year, I have really been following Dr. Mindy and increasing the longer fast. Doing one 24-36 hr fast once per week followed by daily intermittent fasting. I have GAINED FAT, Gained cellulite, lost energy and it seems like my metabolism is stuck. Like now, I’m afraid to eat because even when I do eat healthy… And I incorporate, walnuts, nut butter, avocados that fat goes right to my thighs now. And now that I don’t have the energy to run like I used to before I cannot burn that fat off. I feel less energized and motivated after longer fasts and definitely don’t have the stamina, strength energy or endurance to do the workouts I used to that left me feeling way more lean, energized and healthier than fasting has gotten me. I need to get back to doing maybe 16 hours of daily fasting but increasing my workouts several days a week. Because walking and doing longer fasting just doesn’t do it for me. It’s like I have no muscle tone, no strength and actually more cellulite than I ever had before. 🏃‍♀

[@picmenose]

@HH-gv8mx Maybe it's time to shake up that routine, stay away from the sugar and carbs and experiment, eat only whole foods. If you're female, it may be a change in hormones. Don't give up.

[@pamelawalker8052]

Skipping a meal is just that. Going on a fast should not be stressful, if it does make you stress, dont do it. Experts are always changing their minds. Its getting ridiculous. Skip the sugar, eat when you are truly hungry and enjoy your life.

[@sinkintostillness]

I also think it's ok to be hungry, we don't need to give into that urge immediately. Sometimes just drinking a glass of water will overcome hunger pangs.

[@solesurvivor3723]

Brought you by the proud sponsors of protein powder!

[@Omnamahshivay8079]

😂😂 well said 😂😂

[@kjkernSerendipity]

Ha, yeah. Every time I watch one of these I always ask myself why I can't get enough protein in.

[@HH-gv8mx]

Yea no shit

[@jagr06]

protein powder isn't the same as protein from meat. It does help though but it's not as efficient as meat has more nutrients in it.

[@mustdoddy]

In last ramadhan, i only eat once at 18.00 and drink (18.00-22.00 time window) i feel great

[@Viholio]

I think they need to define/clarify their use of the term fasting. 1. Are they referring to intermittent fasting? (Eating only within a specific time window each day?) 2. Are they referring to OMAD (one meal a day?) 3. Are they referring to 24 or more hours without food? Etc.

[@aggj14]

I agree. I try to intermittent fast 3 days a week 16/8 and I try to still get the recommended protein.

[@MichL_71]

Agree, it's all higgildy piggledy.

[@159awi]

I just don't think we are designed to eat all day. The only animals that do this are herbivores. We do need plenty of protein for sure but do we need to be eating it all day long?

[@mesalouis8976]

You’re right! We’re not designed to eat all day. These experts are lying. They want us fat so they can sell us more Ozempic.

[@barbarafairbanks4578]

@159awi Your 'point' is moot. In fact, not a relevant point at all. Failure to Fast does not equate to 'eating all day'. AND... is not at all the suggestion being made here😊

[@159awi]

@@barbarafairbanks4578 granted, 'all day' is hyperbole. But these guys seem to have a fear of catabolism. But that is a perfectly normal state. Required, in fact. At some point you have to tear down the old and build up the new. And there are plenty of other proteins that need to go besides skeletal muscle.

[@saskhiker3935]

I don't fast. I just make dinner the last meal of the day around 6pm and don't eat until 8am. I don't consider this fasting. Just normal eating for me.

[@barbarafairbanks4578]

​@@saskhiker3935 Very sensible. So much confusion over what constitutes 'fasting'... I'm not surprised that (imo) many here have the same feeding/non-feeding window as you, but insist on calling it 'fasting'😅

[@TLM19017]

I have been doing either 16/8 to 18/6 for over six years, I am soon to be 60 in the best physical shape I have been.

[@RetroPc-k7j]

I've been fasting every day for more than 3 years. Recently, I started exercising and gaining muscle! I'm 40 years old and can work all day with full energy, without getting tired or losing concentration. It's been 2 years since I last caught a cold. I'm going to do this for the rest of my life no matter what!

[@Hosedinho]

Same!

[@MrQuadcity]

The video featuring Thomas DeLauer discussing expert opinions on fasting, including those of Dr. Peter Attia, Dr. Rhonda Patrick, and Dr. Gabrielle Lyon, offers several key takeaways on the reconsideration of fasting practices: 1. **Shift in Expert Opinion:** Many health and fitness experts who once advocated for fasting have revised their views based on emerging evidence and personal observations related to muscle mass preservation and overall health impacts. 2. **Concern Over Muscle Mass:** A significant concern among these experts is the potential for muscle loss during fasting, especially with prolonged periods without food. Maintaining muscle mass is emphasized as crucial for health and longevity. 3. **The Importance of Protein:** The discussions underline the critical role of protein in preventing muscle breakdown. Adequate protein intake is essential, particularly after periods of fasting, to support muscle protein synthesis. 4. **Revised Fasting Practices:** While fasting can have benefits, these experts suggest modifications to fasting routines to mitigate negative effects, such as focusing on sufficient protein consumption and timing workouts to preserve muscle. 5. **Protein Intake Recommendations:** For those engaging in fasting, a higher protein intake than previously thought necessary is recommended-ranging from 1.6 to 2 grams per kilogram of body weight-to support muscle maintenance or growth. 6. **Exercise and Fasting Compatibility:** Resistance training is highlighted as beneficial during fasting periods to help counteract muscle loss. Proper nutrition, particularly adequate protein and calorie intake around exercise, is crucial. 7. **Balanced Approach to Fasting:** The experts advocate for a balanced approach that incorporates fasting into a lifestyle that also prioritizes muscle preservation through diet and exercise, rather than fasting in isolation. 8. **Fasting is Not One-size-fits-all:** The evolving perspectives of these health experts reflect a more nuanced understanding of fasting, recognizing it can be part of a healthy lifestyle if properly managed, especially in terms of nutrition and physical activity.

[@barbarafairbanks4578]

@MrQuadcity Good and very useful summary. Thanks!👍

[@rwalt66]

They done made their money from fasting now it’s time for them to move on. SMH

[@wickflair2976]

I've noticed this several times as well

[@wickflair2976]

Social Media Science

[@jessejmartinez2210]

Some of these people hit their health goals using fasting. Now time to flip the script. Come on man.

[@dlg5485]

Not everyone who says something you don't like is a grifter. New research data is constantly being released and these guys consume that data and respond to it. That is what science is supposed to do, evolve. That said, I have no plans of changing my 18/6 IF routine because I don't do prolonged fasting anyway, which is primarily what they are concerned about. In any case, it's a bit lazy to always assume that everyone is lying to you. My suggestion is to review the latest research and see for yourself whether or not there is any validity to what they are saying.

[@38kenaly]

@@dlg5485 I couldn’t say it any better. Completely agree with you

[@russellboyd-jb8jv]

THEY SAY FASTING IS BAD TODAY, BUT IN 9 MONTHS, THESE SAME EXPERTS WILL SAY FASTING IS GOOD.HOW CAN FASTING BE GOOD FOR YOU YESTERDAY, ACCORDING TO THE STUDIES, AND TODAY ITS BAD FOR YOU.

[@greekgaddafi4468]

Garbage spewed up in the name of science and it's always changing to suite someone's agenda while you fast someone is losing money us Muslims have been fasting since the day we were 15 guess where the least heart attacks cancers are in the Quran says fasting is good for you period anyone who has fasted can testify it's a rest from all this chemical filled foods were now forced to eat they mad people are awake the more often you fast the less often you get sick so big pharma and the food industry who are in Kahoots are kicking themselves

[@janetkrulock1971]

Exactly!

[@SKErwin2]

It's not that they're saying it's bad, they're cautious because IF can lead you to eat less protein than necessary (probably because of the myth about how human body can absorb only 30gr of protein per meal, which was already debunked a few videos ago)

[@barbarafairbanks4578]

...uh derp🥴 Updated data? 😃

[@barbarafairbanks4578]

​@@SKErwin2 Agree! 👍 Logical explanation. But trying to sell those who believe we are being bamboozled, based on their (conspiracy theory) idea that the fasting cash cow has run out of milk🙄 - therefore, no more profit from fasting advice - and that's why experts are changing their minds. Nevermind ANY logic on how they made a profit on advising fasting in the 1st place 😂 (makes no sense)

[@TrueWren]

I like that she said 'skipping meals' what does thst mean, who decides thefe should be 3 meals and day and if you do less your skipping a meal or adding of you do more.

[@220grit3]

Peter Attia took something to the extreme and STILL after 3 years only lost 10 pounds of muscle.

[@martinezjames83]

He was lean. But looked better. He looks chubby now

[@jagr06]

what do you mean by extreme?

[@timothykowalewski3943]

Attia looks like he's getting some pharmaceutical help these days. Those muscles showed up unnaturally quick. ​@@martinezjames83

[@63ah1275]

I did IF and went from diabetic to an a1c of 4.8. I backed off a little bit on IF (down to 4 days/wk) and gained 25 lbs and inflammation increased. I'm going back. I would assume these people aren't prone to metabolic issues.

[@Jess-on-the-Tube]

I feel something they may also have in common is a relatively intense/religious workout schedule - you could probably call these people athletes. There's lots of benefits common to fasting and exercise, but that doesn't mean more of both is better in combo. Constant heavy workouts probably do pair better with "feasting" mode. If you're already working out so much that you couldn't gain fat if you tried, maybe you're already on the edge. Like, I am noticing the contrast with the perspective of other big fasting proponents who advise to keep exercise low/light during long fasts so as not to confound the muscle preserving processes - which seems synergistic with the natural rhythms. Maybe those guys have just been on the money all along, and if you're a gym junkie with a high exercise load who would never dream of skipping a leg day, this is just the expected result of "I'll just add fasting to what I'm doing". Sometimes these "biohackers" have a tendency towards extremes that override instincts, you know? If I did what some of them do, my body would fall in a heap - or at least it would have at the beginning of my healing journey. I wouldn't care to try their way now. I don't know. I'm no expert myself. But I do know fasting works well for me for keeping my health in check with a lifestyle that my body can sustain. I feel like I'm working with its natural rhythms and it isn't going to revolt on me. Let them experiment with maintaining heavy training AND fasting AND adding 2g/kg of protein and crunch their spreadsheets to see the results. My body and I will keep on doing what works well for us.

[@Cekatu]

You are on the money. 🎯

[@HH-gv8mx]

I have always been fasting at least 16 hours a day. But in the past year, I have really been following Dr. Mindy and increasing the longer fast. Doing one 24-36 hr fast once per week followed by daily intermittent fasting. I have GAINED FAT, Gained cellulite, lost energy and it seems like my metabolism is stuck. Like now, I’m afraid to eat because even when I do eat healthy… And I incorporate, walnuts, nut butter, avocados that fat goes right to my thighs now. And now that I don’t have the energy to run like I used to before I cannot burn that fat off. I feel less energized and motivated after longer fasts and definitely don’t have the stamina, strength energy or endurance to do the workouts I used to that left me feeling way more lean, energized and healthier than fasting has gotten me. I need to get back to doing maybe 16 hours of daily fasting but increasing my workouts several days a week. Because walking and doing longer fasting just doesn’t do it for me. It’s like I have no muscle tone, no strength and actually more cellulite than I ever had before. 🏃‍♀

[@63ah1275]

@@HH-gv8mx lose the nuts.

[@kristencobb230]

@@HH-gv8mx. Are you going through menopause by chance? I was a runner and saw some of the same undesirable changes in my body. Balancing hormones helps.

[@myrandaclark1395]

Fasting has been practiced in many religions for centuries ❤ Jesus fasted for 40 days and 40 nights to be more pure. Fasting is healthy ❤

[@Ayverie4]

Ok .... it was NOT to "be more pure"... he's Jesus, he couldn't GET any more pure 🤔

[@dkcanada1]

I couldn't agree more! Our bodies were created to survive famine.

[@mikepetrilli4686]

So are you suggesting that fasting for 40 days is actually healthy? Jesus also walked on water, that doesn't mean I'm jumping off of my cruse ship😂😂😂

[@Dreamingofyou317]

He isn’t real though

[@RobertOfStAlbans_]

@@Dreamingofyou317he existed, he just isn’t God.

[@77chaotik]

All I know is this: Due to 18-hour fasts on a daily basis, I was able to lose over 30 pounds in a 4 month period. In addition to the weight loss, certain biomarkers improved significantly (i.e. cholesterol, blood sugar/insulin resistance, blood pressure). Not to mention better energy levels and mental clarity. So, considering all of the benefits mentioned above, I will continue with my daily fasting protocol. Naysayers or individuals that no longer fast will not deter me from continuing such a practice. 👉💯🧘‍♂️🙏☯️

[@Streamlined955]

Agree 100%. Fasting has been the easiest way by far for me to maintain a healthy body weight.

[@HaouDavid]

Well said! 👍👍

[@mjgrant1515]

i agree, i will never stop time restricted eating (17/7 to 20/4 with occasional longer fasts) because it helped me lose weight & keep it off but best of all it cured my compulsive eating ( mostly junk foods) & i’m now feel super healthy at 70. been doing this since i was 62. how can this possibly be bad for me?

[@azzgunther]

This seems to be what they're indicating in the quotes in the video: that fasting will cut fat and possibly muscle mass.

[@barbarafairbanks4578]

​​​@@azzgunther Yes, I agree. An, imo, those here who are reporting weightloss with Fasting may have missed the point of this video.... IMO the point of this video was to make viewers aware that Fasting can have drawbacks - especially when it comes to the realization that a loss of muscle mass will generally accompany fatloss. I DO think Thomas chose the wrong (unfortunate) title AND subtitle for this video. When we get past the negative (possibly clickbait) title- and watch the video, we see that no 'expert' is generally against fasting - but, instead, are stating that fasting d/n work for them - and further that they wanted to convey some of the misnomers about - and drawbacks of - Fasting. This, imo, clearly came across in those video- but again, an unfortunate and misleading title was assigned To this video!

[@anjikanjik]

why are so many commenters here so.... negative at new ideas and new studies? Thomas is just helping you make informed decisions. and sometimes data changes. Take what you will, and leave what you don't. No need to be snarky about it.

[@jacksquat4140]

It amazes me how little these "experts" know about nutrition. They claim this, then they claim that. This, that, this, that. Like Paul Saladino, he changes his mind every 3 years.

[@R27035]

All these experts that are going against fasting are very healthy and fit. They don't need to fast and hence why they might find fasting detrimental. They don't have much fat to lose. For those of us who have a host of metabolic conditions are are overweight, fasting is still probably highly beneficial.

[@Extrasinn]

That's it.

[@kristencobb230]

Nailed it 🎯

[@ratinhoembondeiro646]

Yeah and their fasting routines seemed to lack applied intelligence but they just seemed to do it machinely without wisdom.

[@michaelweiss3579]

Enjoying this part of your channel Thomas, not just the interviews, but combining several into specific themes. Good stuff!

[@johnwoodard8717]

This video focused a great deal on muscle mass, and I get why that's important, but what about those of us doing 16:8 in order to improve insulin sensitivity?

[@thetreekeeper143]

I only eat 2 meals a day but i go to the gym and work out hard. The other day, my work colleague said my muscles are huge.

[@Noegzit]

@7:00 Rhonda made the claim we don't store amino acids. That's wrong because 70% of the amino acids we use come from recycling, so our whole body is in fact a protein store and is our main source of protein largely before the food we eat. Moreover when we eat a lot of proteins in a meal our digestion slows down so that amino acids get more slowly into the blood where they can still be present long after the meal. I don't really buy this story we would necessarily be in an extreme catabolic state and break down our muscle as soon as we skip breakfast. Honestly if we eat 100g of protein at lunch and 100g at dinner I can't believe we could lose a significant amount of muscle mass before noon.

[@manoverboard4677]

How many times do you think "experts" can tell us to do the exact opposite of what they espoused previously, before we come to the understanding that we're being manipulated? I'll tell you in my case, that moment is now. Thanks for the memories Thomas. I wish I could say it's been fun.

[@timothykowalewski3943]

If you need new content everyday, a great deal of it is gonna end up contradictory, and a lot of bullshit will pop up.

[@brockashsfrund]

Yeah bart kay has ruined most of the health influencers I used to follow including Thomas. Bart tears them apart lol

[@paulaspagnuolo8285]

BINGO! Makes it obvious that it’s about selling product. Keep changing your gimmick and keep people tuned in. It’s a signal to I subscribe for me.

[@TirraOmilade]

Dr. Lyon saved my life with her protein suggestions. I was going through perimenopause and one of the best remedies to relieve symptoms was significantly increasing my protein. I will add that you, Thomas, sold me on iF and that relieved Perimenopausal symptoms, too.

[@Snnow-yq5sd]

It is the fat that saved you not protein. Please research Dr Elizabeth Bright when it comes to your problem

[@barbarafairbanks4578]

@TirraOmilade Me too!😃 (Dr. Lyon saved my life...) I went fm sickly vegan, back to omnivore (and good health!) - the very day I caught her interview on 'Health Theory' Podcast 4 years ago👍

[@HH-gv8mx]

I have always been fasting at least 16 hours a day. But in the past year, I have really been following Dr. Mindy and increasing the longer fast. Doing one 24-36 hr fast once per week followed by daily intermittent fasting. I have GAINED FAT, Gained cellulite, lost energy and it seems like my metabolism is stuck. Like now, I’m afraid to eat because even when I do eat healthy… And I incorporate, walnuts, nut butter, avocados that fat goes right to my thighs now. And now that I don’t have the energy to run like I used to before I cannot burn that fat off. I feel less energized and motivated after longer fasts and definitely don’t have the stamina, strength energy or endurance to do the workouts I used to that left me feeling way more lean, energized and healthier than fasting has gotten me. I need to get back to doing maybe 16 hours of daily fasting but increasing my workouts several days a week. Because walking and doing longer fasting just doesn’t do it for me. It’s like I have no muscle tone, no strength and actually more cellulite than I ever had before. 🏃‍♀

[@SF-ow5ru]

Fasting is neccesary for a specific group of people. Wisdom is 'nothing works for everything' so yes, fasting might not be for everyone, . However only the ignorant denies the benefits of fasting on re-setting cellular activity. Thanks.

[@jsun3117]

They got 6 or 7 figure deals to change their perspective?

[@BlobBlobkins]

"Fasting is neccesary for a specific group of people" which group? Can you elaborate, please

[@usrIO30581l]

@@BlobBlobkinsa group with a detail mind set, organize, critical, open thinking, and able to test the theories, understanding what they analyze on what works and what doesn’t.

[@nickwojtow6787]

BS!! This is the same eat for your blood type crap!! The human body functions the same way for everyone within reason. An animal based diet with fasting and exercise is the way to go. The human body was never meant to eat constantly throughout the day. Its designed to go days even weeks with little to no food. Feast and famine diet lol

[@BlobBlobkins]

@@usrIO30581l ah understood thanks, I thought with specific health conditions, I'm testing it myself right now

[@russellbennett8470]

I think it would also be important in a video like this to address people who may be fasting due to certain medical conditions. All of the people in this video were fasting to optimize health.

[@jaket5751]

Be intentional and listen to YOUR body. That’s what this comes down to. YOUR body knows what it needs better than anyone on KZbin. Thanks Thomas.

[@LadyAxe13]

Call me a rebel, but I do what I want and what suits me. Period. The only "expert" on my health is ME.

[@Markhypnosis1]

Of course, do what you want. But to say YOU are the only expert on your health is a bit ridiculous. How do YOU know what is actually bad for you? Did someone tell you that eating utlra processed food was very bad for you, or did you work it out for yourself? My point is that with all the garbage food around nowadays we simply can't determine what's bad for us without some kind of external information source. When we ate what we found and grew we didn't need to know any of that.

[@AllForJesusAndMary]

I disagree that Myalgic encephalomyelitis is able to do this.

[@steve1711]

Just sick of these so called experts. Give it a few months and they will all be saying something different. Next week, we were wrong about SAD. Ultra-processed foods are good for you.

[@jumbledb0798]

Better to change based on new data then ignoring data and being married to bad science

[@AlekTrev006]

@@jumbledb0798right - but this specific video features very Fit (already / currently) experts saying FOR THEM .. they personally aren’t fasting as much these days… But the point / magic of IF is more keenly felt on those losing weight to GET to that Fit state, finally. Certainly, once you ARE in Maintenance Mode / Healthy Weight… you don’t need to be as aggressive with Fasting as maybe you were initially. But that’s vastly different from “ Fasting is not useful - period.”

[@barbarafairbanks4578]

@stwve1811 Hyperbole will get you nowhere😅

[@barbarafairbanks4578]

​@@jumbledb0798 Absolutely! Excellent point.👍

[@barbarafairbanks4578]

​@@AlekTrev006 Your comment is obtuse. On the ine hand - you acknowledge these experts are sharing their personal anecdotes on the fact they, personally, are finding fasting is not benefitting them... But then you turn around and imply that they are saying fasting is not useful...period. Which IS it?

[@j.r.nicole8527]

Excellent Post Thomas. I’ve listen to all those people, but don’t have enough time in the day to be up on all of their personal research. I luv the way you utilized all of them into one well done analysis..

[@ChuckWallace-c3x]

I've been doing a 16/8 fasting protocol for years. I am 67 and feel like 45. I consume organic foods, wild blueberries, apples, greens, onions, organ meats, regenerative pasture raised eggs, Bison, Elk and other healthy proteins. I switched from doing intense fasted workouts (due to excess cortisol levels) to fed weight training, and have actually increased my strength. The world record for 198 lb squats is only 365 lbs for the 70+ age group. At 67, I have done 465 and plan on shattering the record by age 70. It is ALL about strength for longevity. Your body watches your "Vitality" and produces hormones to match. My motto... "Don't let the old man in!".

[@patrickdrury1480]

Great video. Putting all those experts together in one place like that. Nice job, Thomas.

[@simplenothing]

I've always felt that it is super easy to regain muscle after fasting. I water fast for usually 4-7 days a few times per year, and no question, you do lose some muscle. But within 2-3 weeks, I'm back to making progress at the gym. Sometimes you have to take one step back to propel you two steps forward.

[@barbarafairbanks4578]

@simplenothing OR you could be the type of genetic outlier known in (mostly gym circles) as a 'gainer' - put on muscle very easily. ...def, not common for the majority. And so... not recommended, imo, for the average person. Another case of 'What's good for the goose'... NOT necessarily 'good for the gander.'

[@HH-gv8mx]

I have always been fasting at least 16 hours a day. But in the past year, I have really been following Dr. Mindy and increasing the longer fast. Doing one 24-36 hr fast once per week followed by daily intermittent fasting. I have GAINED FAT, Gained cellulite, lost energy and it seems like my metabolism is stuck. Like now, I’m afraid to eat because even when I do eat healthy… And I incorporate, walnuts, nut butter, avocados that fat goes right to my thighs now. And now that I don’t have the energy to run like I used to before I cannot burn that fat off. I feel less energized and motivated after longer fasts and definitely don’t have the stamina, strength energy or endurance to do the workouts I used to that left me feeling way more lean, energized and healthier than fasting has gotten me. I need to get back to doing maybe 16 hours of daily fasting but increasing my workouts several days a week. Because walking and doing longer fasting just doesn’t do it for me. It’s like I have no muscle tone, no strength and actually more cellulite than I ever had before. 🏃‍♀

[@buildyourownhuman]

The guy here was fasting almost 1/5 of all days... once weekly, 3 days monthly, 7 days quarterly...

[@buildyourownhuman]

There's a guy who had crohns disease... he lost over 30kg in the hospital... and put it back on in only 12 weeks... muscle is actually very easy to regain,even after extreme loss...

[@Goatie89]

The biggest take away is that fasting can be a tool to use, but make sure your not excessively straining your body with multiple day fasts. Intermittent fasting seems fine as long as you are getting enough protein and rest to recover.

[@dintb]

Like you're not stressing the body out by eating shit foods and drinks. Give meva break.

[@barbarafairbanks4578]

@Goatie89 Your 'takeaway' on what they are actually stating here is , imo, correct. How can so many here just hyperbole their way thru this video and come up with a skewed version of what's being said? Lol, are there 2 video's here?😅

[@Samyramirez]

So this is what the experts say Mr. Delauer? I thought you were the expert. So we need more protein now? What ever happened to restricting protein to achieve autophagy?

[@just-me6023]

For me fasting is life saving. I'm pre-diabetic and very overweight. With severe insulin resistance. No matter what I've tried including a GLP one I cannot keep the weight off. So I put myself on a strict keto diet and started intermittent fasting. But I'm doing this to heal a body that has been under stress for a very long time. So for me while keeping the muscle is important because I'm an older woman it is also important that I get this weight off and don't go down the road of diabetes. So for those of us who are not at a healthy weight or not at a healthy point in our lives fasting might just be the thing we need.

[@dongeorge3441]

Im 56. 5 ft 9. July 2023, i was 230 pounds. Today with 16/8 fasting, and weight lifting, im at 180. Still have 10 pounds to go, but what ive learned in the last year has turned my health and self confidence around. Getting enough protein is key, I agree. 👍

[@FenrirsBite77]

Treating diabetes, cancer, and Alzheimer's is Big business. If "experts" recommend something, find who's sponsoring and act accordingly .

[@SwaddleArt]

I used to rabbit hole on KZbin about health. For many years. Now ignore everything.

[@finurra3905]

really appreciate that you compressed all of this info into 1 vid

[@codniggh1139]

The best benefit of fasting is that you lower anxiety and dettach emotions from eating, so you are not associating bad or good feelings with food, so you feel really liberated, you feel control of yourself, pain is not that bad, fear is gone. That alone is worth of it.

[@smokey11a1]

This is intriguing, because I found that fasting for the last nearly two years has dramatically helped my heart problem (afib) and also increased my whole body muscle. I have put on more muscle in the last year (fasting of at least 18 hours), than I had managed to put on in the last 10 years. There appears to be a growth hormone release when fasting for a reasonable length.

[@442jetmech]

Thomas did such a great job representing everyone he interviewed. Thats a lot of trust from all the other experts interviewed. Thanks for the daily motivation!

[@HavalinaSSUSMC]

I used to watch most of your stuff and liked it. You are floundering here lately, I wish you well.

[@coachkobi]

It’s what happens when you must produce more content

[@scott29103]

I'm 60. I regularly do 18:6 fast. Sometimes this is done by skipping breakfast, sometime an early dinner/late lunch at work at 3PM, then breakfast 9AM. I work out 4 times a week, 5PM weekdays, morning on weekend, and always eat plenty of protein after I work out, meat and plant. Any other times I stick to mostly plant-based proteins. DESPITE FASTING, I HAVE GAINED PLENTY OF MUSCLE MASS! So much, that is is obvious in the mirror. I am not competing in any sports, so really how much muscle does one need, if one is obviously very muscular? When I did a 4 day fast I did lose muscle, but I got it back soon enough. So I do a prolonged fast only a couple times a year just to hopefully get into autophagy. Fasting is the easiest way for me personally to keep off the fat. My priority of low belly fat and sleep well (I can't go to bed too hungry). Since I lost weight this way five years ago, I no longer have heart palpitation or puffy feet!

[@ratinhoembondeiro646]

Yoyr body is the real barometer and not the ''experts" opinion.

[@TheTitor81]

The key to fasting is knowing what to eat during your feeding window. Make sure to consume enough calories and proper macros according to your individual goals and needs.

[@glasshalffull1992]

THIS

[@daletroy3348]

There are people who are constantly looking to optimise there diet or workout regime and they never ever stop , so they are in a constant state of change and these people are front and centre of this movement.

[@garycrypto-pd1mk]

Very informative. Thanks for all the time and effort you put into collating and discerning the truth. Much love, brother 🙌

[@sf-db4jq]

I like how the term "expert" gets thrown around --there arent any in a field with more questions than answers

[@BOZ_11]

Where's the study that corroborates the theme of this video? There's no shortage of fasting studies

[@luizakipper7844]

It's actually pretty simple. Ketosis is only reached after about 3 days of fasting. In ketosis, lean mass is burned at a much lesser rate than in standard calorie restriction. Your whole body now runs on fat, with the exception of muscle, which only runs on glucose, generated through gluconeogenesis from aminoacids. The fully fasted state (ketosis) also comes with the amazing benefit of increased autophagy, meaning that the protein that you are burning to generate the glucose your muscles need is going to come from defective cells at a much higher rate. Simply our bodies' wonderful machinery fine-tuned in a few millions of years of evolution 😄 Source: scientific articles, logic, fasted for 21 days and felt great

[@bengoodey]

As long as you can avoid snacking your golden. Thats pretty much way I use IF. 🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation: 00:00 *🚫 Many experts, including Dr. Peter Attia and Dr. Rhonda Patrick, have shifted away from advocating fasting due to evolving perspectives on its efficacy and drawbacks.* 02:17 *🍽️ Skipping meals, particularly breakfast, is no longer viewed as beneficial for intermittent fasting by experts like Dr. Rhonda Patrick.* 03:27 *🔄 Dr. Peter Attia has revised his stance on prolonged fasting, recognizing potential drawbacks such as muscle loss.* 04:21 *⚖️ Brad Kearns highlights the importance of balancing health strategies like fasting with stress management for optimal well-being.* 06:40 *🥩 Dr. Rhonda Patrick emphasizes the significance of protein intake, especially after fasting, to prevent muscle breakdown.* 08:16 *💪 Dr. Peter Attia underscores the risk of muscle loss associated with fasting, prompting his shift away from prolonged fasting practices.* 09:11 *🏋️‍♂️ Dr. Gabrielle Lyon emphasizes the importance of preserving muscle mass over fat, backed by research indicating the health risks of muscle loss.* 10:21 *🥩 Mark Sisson advocates for a protein-centric diet to maintain muscle mass, marking a shift from his previous dietary preferences.* 11:42 *🔄 Dr. Lane Norton acknowledges the potential for muscle growth even with intermittent fasting, provided protein needs are met.* 14:30 *🍗 Dr. Rhonda Patrick recommends higher protein intake for muscle preservation and growth, surpassing the RDA.* 15:22 *💪 Dr. Gabrielle Lyon echoes the importance of dietary protein for skeletal muscle protection and advocates for higher intake than the RDA.* 16:11 *🛠️ Dr. Tommy Wood suggests maintaining adequate calorie and protein intake, along with resistance training, for muscle growth during fasting periods.* Made with HARPA AI

[@nghttrn001]

My 5-2 and 18-6 is working extremely well for me this far. I will be sticking to it until I reach my goal weight. Then, I will eat the good nutrients whenever.

[@mslisteningloud]

5-2? Curious what that is. thanks!

[@nghttrn001]

@@mslisteningloud I eat 5 days, water/black coffee fast for 2 days. Saturday night I eat dinner, then don't eat again until Monday night.

[@Medic91A]

​@@nghttrn001😂 starving yourself always works...until you die.

[@SuperAngelic5]

Some people are overly focused on losing weight fast. It can easily turn into an eating disorder and obsession. They become weak, lose muscle, and they are anxious all the time. They start to believe they look healthy.

[@HH-gv8mx]

I have always been fasting at least 16 hours a day. But in the past year, I have really been following Dr. Mindy and increasing the longer fast. Doing one 24-36 hr fast once per week followed by daily intermittent fasting. I have GAINED FAT, Gained cellulite, lost energy and it seems like my metabolism is stuck. Like now, I’m afraid to eat because even when I do eat healthy… And I incorporate, walnuts, nut butter, avocados that fat goes right to my thighs now. And now that I don’t have the energy to run like I used to before I cannot burn that fat off. I feel less energized and motivated after longer fasts and definitely don’t have the stamina, strength energy or endurance to do the workouts I used to that left me feeling way more lean, energized and healthier than fasting has gotten me. I need to get back to doing maybe 16 hours of daily fasting but increasing my workouts several days a week. Because walking and doing longer fasting just doesn’t do it for me. It’s like I have no muscle tone, no strength and actually more cellulite than I ever had before. 🏃‍♀

[@SuperAngelic5]

@HH-gv8mx Longer fasts do not work for me either. I was in the hospital for 9 days at the end of last year. I could not eat because of surgery on my colon. I was shocked at how much muscle and strength I lost. It took weeks to get my stamina and strength back. So long fasts are not for everyone.

[@redwoodelf5678]

Great episode Thomas! Intermittent fasting is something that has always worked best for me as a way to lose body fat, most likely because it makes compliance to a calorie defect easier. I have tried many variations over the years of fasting and choosing what to eat during my feeding window, and I find that an 18/6 fasting schedule (usually switch to 16/8 on heavy training days) and following a modified version of Stan Efferding's Vertical Diet works best for me. ( I cut out the white rice, potatoes, and orange juice when I am trying to drop body fat.)

[@Philliesfandom]

A month ago I started 18-6 fasting and it’s the best thing I’ve ever done! Down 26lbs, no cravings, loads of energy!

[@hiriasbloodweaver8593]

It's ridiculous how much of the bigger picture these experts are missing, perhaps this is a case of tunnel vision? Some of what they said is missing important details, and some is just plainly wrong. First of, a prolonged fast (at least 5-7 days) once or twice a year is plenty for autophagy and to protect against Alzheimers & Parkinsons. The really next biggest thing to do is eating a keto diet when you're eating. You do not need/shouldn't do regular (weekly) fasting, unless you're trying to lose weight / have insulin resistance etc. It is much better to improve your regular diet than to eat junk and fast to burn it off. Second, water fasting will accelerate muscle loss and slow fat loss. It is MUCH better to dry fast if possible, so no food and no drinking at all. Of course that's only possible if you're not sweating a lot. But dry fasting will burn up to 3x more fat than water fasting (up to 1kg per day) AND you will also lose much less muscle. If you are regularly fasting for weight loss or insulin sensitivity, rather do a 2-3 day dry fast than water fasting, it is much more efficient and totally safe if you go only 2-3 days. In fact up to 5 days is quite easy really. Beyond that, monitoring your body and checking with a doctor is a good idea, but you can go up to 5 days without any major supervision (assuming you have fasted before). Third, skipping breakfast is absolutely intermittent fasting. Assuming you have dinner at 18:00, you go around 18 hours until lunch, which is easily enough to burn your glycogen and enter slight ketosis. You have, in fact, fasted for 18 hours. Just by skipping breakfast and not eating past 18:00, you are already doing a 18/6 fast. Fourth, assuming non-obesity, after a fast, you should at least do a refeeding period of 1,5 - 2x the length of the fast. Frequent fasting can be stressful to your body, but that is really only a major concern if you drop below 10% bodyfat or go into REALLY long fasts, like 30+ days water fasting / 10+ days dry fasting. Going beyond that is risky and should not be attempted without medical supervision. Fifth, of course you're not supposed to do heavy workouts while fasting to prevent muscle loss. In fact, if you start running out of breath, you start burning muscle. You should only go for light activity while fasting. I cannot fathom how this is not obvious to these experts. Also I cannot believe I have to say this, but you should only fast before workouts, not after. You NEED the protein after the workout, otherwise what is the point? Sixth, you CAN absolutely hit your protein needs even on OMAD, you will get benefits even if you only eat 1 meal with 100g+ of protein per day. It is in no way a problem to do intermittent fasting and still hit your protein goals. In fact, if you're not trying to gain muscle, 60-70g of protein is plenty for the average person, that is like 200g of meat + 50g of cheese. Of course you can eat that in one meal, it's not difficult at all.

[@txlockednloaded2128]

I implemented less fasting once I got to 18-20% body fat that was over 10 years ago. I was doing IF and keto after that I was able to add back in healthy carbs and more flexibility on cheat meals. If I ate something bad like for ex a cheat meal and a slice of cheesecake from the ccfactory, I'd do a 24-hour fast and some type of zone 2 cardio. It works for me. You just have to feel your body out and figure out what works for you. Imo, of course

[@HH-gv8mx]

I have always been fasting at least 16 hours a day. But in the past year, I have really been following Dr. Mindy and increasing the longer fast. Doing one 24-36 hr fast once per week followed by daily intermittent fasting. I have GAINED FAT, Gained cellulite, lost energy and it seems like my metabolism is stuck. Like now, I’m afraid to eat because even when I do eat healthy… And I incorporate, walnuts, nut butter, avocados that fat goes right to my thighs now. And now that I don’t have the energy to run like I used to before I cannot burn that fat off. I feel less energized and motivated after longer fasts and definitely don’t have the stamina, strength energy or endurance to do the workouts I used to that left me feeling way more lean, energized and healthier than fasting has gotten me. I need to get back to doing maybe 16 hours of daily fasting but increasing my workouts several days a week. Because walking and doing longer fasting just doesn’t do it for me. It’s like I have no muscle tone, no strength and actually more cellulite than I ever had before. 🏃‍♀

[@txlockednloaded2128]

@HH-gv8mx I'm no doctor, but fasting too often can wreck your metabolism. I hit plateaus in the past from fasting too often. You should probably track your calories for a week and see where you're at. Maybe cut down fats and add in a few healthy carbs.🤷‍♂️ walks after meals helped me greatly as well.

[@beautifulgirl219]

First I'm high protein, 1 g per lb ideal body weight. I don't fast over 23-24 hours, but I don't do OMAD as long-term lifestyle, I suggest at least 2MAD over 4-12 hours, depending on what you enjoy and have reasons for. Broadly, if I want to increase leanness I add fasting, if I want to build muscle I eliminate fasting. Broadly, increased fasting reduces total protein & calories & total insulin with its anabolic and fat-storing properties. I lose muscle slightly fasting aggressively, but much more fat loss, as best I can tell. I gain muscle a bit without fasting, but gain proportionally, but not a lot, of fat. People consider me lean either way, I'm not talking a lot of fat gain. But I'm leanest with a bit of fasting as I practice it. When I want to see those abs, I fast. Bikini perfection, a bit of fasting can be a tool and a friend, and I do experience health benefits, IMO. Start your day with a couple sets of squats or deadlifts and you'll feel like a lioness at the office, and look like one. :)

[@rocketmaniscool]

There was also a video stating cold plunge like what Joe Rogan was doing was actually harmful in the long run. There was an actual study proving harmful effects. Now I am also skeptical about this long sauna Rhonda is advocating.

[@janetb2217]

I’m still gonna fast here and there regardless what anyone says, mostly 16-20hrs but occasionally 24-36hrs+

[@beardumaw24]

Fasting is totally worth it if your fighting a disorder or a disease, fasting has very strong health benefits for disease prevention, according to Dr Jason Fung, and Dr Tomas Frigseed, (spelling) real use research and clinical trials.