QUESTION OF THE DAY: What one would you choose and why? Would you need it to be self-propelled?
@ewilliams193 жыл бұрын
I would choose Echo, because it’s Echo need I say more?😀
@paulneri8352 жыл бұрын
I read self-propelled mower transmissions clog up in wet grass so that's ruled them out for me.
@wrxs17812 жыл бұрын
My quest for moving to electric and away from gas had the following criteria, (1) known brand name (2) battery cost and compatibility for trimmers and leaf blowers, and battery cost.(3) purpose built as an electric mower. Some brands took last years gas mower and put an electric motor on top. Cost is a factor but you get what you pay for. Stihl was my choice.
@teamclarktrackfield2 жыл бұрын
Great video; however in my opinion, the Stihl RMA 510V may have been a better comparison to the Echo mower…
@MarkThomasBuilder2 жыл бұрын
Yes, I compared these because they're close in price. ECHO has a new mower this year that I'd like to make a new video comparison with.
@kenrobertson95702 жыл бұрын
you can't get the 510 anywhere on the east coast.
@teamclarktrackfield2 жыл бұрын
@@kenrobertson9570 Are you in Northern Virginia (or near) Northern Virginia? If so, contact the Stihl dealer at Northern Tools in Fredericksburg, VA. They have a 510 on display. Also, check out the Stihl dealer at Morton’s Power Equipment in Fredericksburg. They have a good stock of mowers, specifically Tori and Stihl mowers.
@TheGonebald2 жыл бұрын
That was my thought as well. The 510 would have been a much better comparison but if it isn’t available you go with the next one down.
@richardc693227 күн бұрын
Quite a lot of changes since this video on the RMA460. Comes with a 36 volt, 4.8 amp battery with an excellent increased run and quicker charging time. Two inch narrower deck not an issue for me and my needs. I like the one handed height adjustment feature. Currently the Stihl sells here in 🇨🇦 at $700.00 plus tax for the set of mower, AK30 battery and charger. Expensive! I am buying it anyway as a Stihl fan and already have a number of quality Stihl equipment.🇨🇦👍👍👍👍👨🦳
@ariesmight69782 жыл бұрын
Two days ago I purchased the stihl 510 36 volt with the 7.5 Amp battery. With fast charging unit. The stihl 510 is very quiet. Compared to the Toro and work nitro. Which both when running are as loud as whine, from the exhaust end. Of a fully spooled up turbine engine.
@MarkThomasBuilder2 жыл бұрын
I like the quieter sound when running battery powered mowers. The 510 model looks nice. I like the way Stihl gets up to top speed quickly.
@tsant6591 Жыл бұрын
2023, echo all the way. 56v platform is hard to beat. Good luck Stihl.
@MarkThomasBuilder Жыл бұрын
I think the 56v is here to stay for ECHO.
@Hucklebuz Жыл бұрын
Echo is several years old. I still have mine, no issues with anything. Stihl is fairly new. The new Echo (not in this video) appears to be a rebadged Greenworks.
@MarkThomasBuilder Жыл бұрын
Interesting, I'll have to take a close look at some Greenworks.
@rustyrusty96652 ай бұрын
Your 5min of mowing : area is inconsistent since the echo lawn mower cutting weight is 21 inches and the Stihl is only 19 inches. Now do the same test with both mowers being either 21 inches or 19 inches then post the results, but other than that it was still a awesome video.
@MarkThomasBuilder2 ай бұрын
Thanks, since I made this video, ECHO now has another model push mower. I'll have to compare the two brands and see if they make a couple 21" models that are similar in price.
@wrxs17812 жыл бұрын
You forgot to mention the cost of an additional battery, also the associated lawn care equipment and associated battery compatibility. Good revue but for quality the Stihl gets my vote.
@MarkThomasBuilder2 жыл бұрын
That's a good point. ECHO changed their push mower lineup for 2022 with the introduction of their new eForce 56v lineup. The mower is now a steel deck and self-propelled. The Stihl mower is very nice too. The motor engages quickly and gets up to full speed very fast.
@christopherheaton47742 ай бұрын
stihl because I have a weedeater and blower which uses the same battery...
@davidh.75712 жыл бұрын
Might wanna Compare apples with apples. Area covered on a 19” vs 21”? What were you expecting when they both weigh virtually the same. Didn’t mention built quality, steel vs plastic. Hight adjusters, steel vs plastic. And the “on off” switch you referred to on the Stihl is actually the eco mode switch. Not sure if the Echo has this.
@MarkThomasBuilder2 жыл бұрын
ECHO upgraded their mower now to their 56v eForce. This comparison is mostly to show how 2 similar priced items compare. Either one will mow your lawn just fine, but I figured I would show you some results from my series of tests. Also, the new ECHO one is self propelled.
@davidh.75712 жыл бұрын
@@MarkThomasBuilder also is the 510v from stihl. Maybe compare these two units
@wadepatton2433 Жыл бұрын
Love my Echo gear. Stihl can be quirky in my experience. Echo gets my dollar.
@MarkThomasBuilder Жыл бұрын
I can relate to that.
@konamanstudio24473 жыл бұрын
I really you charge time is very important Keep up the great work🍻🍺
@MarkThomasBuilder3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, will do!
@glennbaker3433 жыл бұрын
@@MarkThomasBuilder Stihl also has another mower the RMA 510 which has the same cutting width and a 60 min charge time.
@robertsaca35126 ай бұрын
4:00 that's the switch for eco mode
@davidwain49883 ай бұрын
i would probbaly say stihl
@MarkThomasBuilder2 ай бұрын
Stihl makes a great mower. ECHO updated their mower lineup and don't offer this exact one anymore.
@iMiik2 жыл бұрын
I would go with the 2022 Echo hands-down. although i like the design on the Stihl. The all new 46V battery lawn mower by echo is has it all.
@inspectorjavert55632 жыл бұрын
the echo is the better choice only if you dont have the money or are too cheap to buy the stihl.
@americantroy773 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the comparison, I went from the echo to the toro 60v and the toro blows the echo away
@MarkThomasBuilder3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info. I've only tried a Toro gas push mower so far. I'll have to look at the one you have.
@americantroy773 жыл бұрын
@@MarkThomasBuilder one other thing was I had a issue and the echo customer support was terrible
@MarkThomasBuilder3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for letting me know. I've heard good things from someone as well.
@sstyrna65923 жыл бұрын
Had a 2 Toro's gas last35 years , they still work , I got the Toro 60volt Personal Pace , love it , best machine on the market , did my homework
@paulneri8352 жыл бұрын
I think the Echo looks sexier than the Stihl but looks more "plasticky" (weaker?) than the Stihl. Anyway...not sure Echo is available in Aus. Another issue... is Echo a long term player? Victa 82v line has been discontinued which is very unfortunate and now all us Victa owners are scrambling about looking for batteries. Hopefully Stihl will be around a long time. So...Stihl for me.
@MarkThomasBuilder2 жыл бұрын
They're both long term brands that you don't have to worry about. ECHO made an upgrade to their mowers and no longer offer the plastic material. The new mower is self-propelled and part of their eForce 56v system.
@davidh.75712 жыл бұрын
The 510 would have been a better comparison.
@davidh.75712 жыл бұрын
Sadly we can’t get the Echo mowers in Australia. Just as the Americans can’t get Victas despite the company being owned since 2008 by Briggs and Stratton.
@robertsaca35126 ай бұрын
I bought a Victa 82V yesterday, so not discontinued, awesome mower, just no self-propelled feature and it's not light.
@paulneri8356 ай бұрын
Dude, do you live in Australia? It is an awesome mower and, yes, I find it heavy too. Its nose seems to burrow down.@@robertsaca3512
@bertraminc94122 жыл бұрын
Comparing the old Stihl 19” to a 21”? Biased much? Of course the 21” will mow more, especially if you walk faster!
@MarkThomasBuilder2 жыл бұрын
These 2 mowers are close in price, so I tried to come up with several tests to show how they compare in a variety of categories.
@alishmee4 ай бұрын
Have you tried the stihl mower with bagging? Any idea on runtime?
@MarkThomasBuilder4 ай бұрын
No, sorry I haven't. They offered a second battery for a discount, like $50 more. I'm sure with 2 batteries it would be long enough to mow any reasonable size lawn.
@alishmee4 ай бұрын
@@MarkThomasBuilder thanks for the response! I plan on picking one up with an extra battery :)
@OZBIE Жыл бұрын
Can't imagine all that plastic on the Echo will age well.
@MarkThomasBuilder Жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's hard to say, but it seems very durable so far. They switched to metal a year ago.
@MaangasTVProduction4 ай бұрын
Aaanndd Stihl
@bux49 Жыл бұрын
Blade mount. Plastic or metal ?
@MarkThomasBuilder Жыл бұрын
Metal, I believe. I don't have the mowers to look at anymore to give you a 100% answer.
@dontrim-macdonald8214 Жыл бұрын
Why does the echo get a star for size, you picked the smallest model that Stihl makes. Also the bag size? You said both were emptied 3 times, and how much it cut in ten minutes. The echo was a bigger radius, so obviously it would cut more. You put a smaller machine against a slightly bigger machine and then penalized it for your choice. Personally I’d say they are pretty much even
@MarkThomasBuilder Жыл бұрын
I tried to compare mowers similar in price, so I compared as many features as possible. Unfortunately Stihl made a smaller mower in this price range.
@benjaminleslie31552 жыл бұрын
yeah I'd say both these mowers are pretty lacking. the rma 460 for one thing is part of their residential line and echo's 58v platform as a whole is not great. I'm definitely excited for their new 56v stuff but their 58v platform is pretty bad from what I've seen. and the stihl rma 510 is rather underwhelming given it's part of their professional AP line.
@MarkThomasBuilder2 жыл бұрын
I'd like to compare some of the 2022 models from Makita and DeWalt too.
@sstyrna65923 жыл бұрын
Toro 60v Personal Pace , all the way wins . Paid 500$,Hamilton Ontario
@MarkThomasBuilder3 жыл бұрын
I tried their personal pace gas mower many years ago and found that I like the hand control better. I would like to try their 60v to see how it works. Someone else recently mentioned they like the Toro too.
@sstyrna65923 жыл бұрын
@@MarkThomasBuilder I had Toro's for the last 30 's , my last one survived 15 years.had starting issues in early spring and late fall , got old ,out to pasture and shot in the gas tank.
@Jv199793 жыл бұрын
Rather use gas
@MarkThomasBuilder3 жыл бұрын
It depends on how tall the grass is. Gas is my choice for tall ditch mowing. If it's normal maintenance, I'd go with battery power.