Thorin's Thoughts - G2's New Roster Gamble (LoL)

[@Tjosenn]

Such a delight and joy to look back at these videos of the potential of G2 when we now know the start to end, the domination and kings that was this rooster of G2. Much appreciation to Thorin for these time capsules, there is no one that has done it like him.

[@Adesanmii]

The G in G2 stands for Gamble - like the new CS:GO roster. Gamble2

[@mr.h4ndzum175]

regarding the perkz switch - he already might be in the top 3 mids europe ever produced, if not, he's definitely top 5. the switch is a gamble, but if it works out it just might give him the title of the best eu player ever in terms of achievements. he showed he can carry when funneled, he offers a lot of flexibility if the meta shifts in the same way when it sent mages to bot and his game knowledge is possibly on the highest level. it's a risky switch, but, if it works it will smash.

[@maximilienlemeledo8214]

I'll just bounce back on one of your argument (the funneling one). The biggest challenge for G2 is going to attribute resources. I mean yeah it's great to be able to carry when funneled but hey if you give everything to Perkz then Caps is gonna collapse (we saw it happen multiple times during LCS/Worlds). Both are resources intensive players with high expectations, it might clash a bit...

[@JoeMama-ik7qf]

@@maximilienlemeledo8214 caps only competition is jitzuke and he wont play on the same level as rookie or scout

[@seanbailey317]

Problem is with the current patch Adcs can’t carry a game. So putting your best player in a position that can’t effect the game is pointless.

[@maximilienlemeledo8214]

@@JoeMama-ik7qf On a 1v1, I agree, even though there are still question marks on Febi (if he gets back to his level). But that's not enough. The "camp caps 24/7" worked well against FNC last splits and can still be used against G2.

[@maximilienlemeledo8214]

@@seanbailey317 Yeah as Thoorin says it's more to take Caps away from FNC rather that acquiring a better mid...

[@viktorbogdov6350]

Just dropping a comment here now that G2 won MSI

[@kollat13]

Honestly this video is really reasonable. But it didn't age well :D

[@viktorbogdov6350]

@@kollat13 yea I really liked the video, I just dropped the comment as a callback after the results of the roster changes were there

[@kollat13]

@@viktorbogdov6350 funny thing as of yesterday they are swapping back to this roster :) how great is that

[@viktorbogdov6350]

@@kollat13 I love it! I liked Perkz on adc, his synergy with Mikyx was pristine

[@LePreuxBuisson]

I just came back here to say that I'm happy you were wrong even though I agreed with you at the time !

[@FedericoCasenave]

Score was a great ADC before becoming a jungler at the age of 22, and not only becoming a jungler but when of the best if not the best of all time...

[@chtholly8084]

Jungle is a less intense role than adc so it's not exactly hard to imagine someone swapping from adc to jungle and doing well. On the other hand midlane is as intensive if not slightly less intensive than adc, and therefore if you don't know what the fuck you're doing you can easily crash and burn no matter how good you were at your former role.

[@gigiobb]

Thorin did not say it is not going to work. He did say it is unlikely he gets to the same skill he had as a midlaner. Sure it could happen like Score , but that is an exception not the rule and should not be used as a motto supporting this move. Also you are evaluating after the fact . At the time Score switched it was an incredible risky move and had every reason to fail.

[@surefive2635]

There are less mechanics involved with jungle than any other role. Going from mid to adc is a lot different.

[@jameselliott-hughes3495]

@@surefive2635 If anything the mechanic changes aren't as difficult as learning the role of jungle. Like mid to adc has a lot of common skill-sets that can transfer. Adc to jungle are only tangentially similar.

[@anisbara8532]

@@chtholly8084 ur actually stupid if u think that jungle is an easy role dumbas xD the amount of knowledge u need to have the timing the mecanix cuz if u dont know stupid humain is that adc only plays marksman jungler everything meta soo shut ur mouth or learn league of legends

[@Halfhand]

I think not alot of people consider how burned out Perkz was during this season. He switched to Marksman to get a fresh start and I think with his mechanical skill he can be a great botlaner.

[@NotASummoner]

Being burned out and swapping to adc seems like a deathwish.

[@user-so5de6yp1d]

thought you were gonna talk about G2's new csgo roster

[@haradrimking93]

G2 IN CS:GO LULW

[@chtholly8084]

The video title literally has '(LoL)' at the end of it and not '(CS;GO)'. If you don't already know to check which game Thorin has tagged in the video title then I dunno what to say.

[@user-so5de6yp1d]

@@chtholly8084 I was watching it through my phone and I have pretty big fonts for text so I didn't see the (LoL) part.

[@zmajodjadrana]

Same here, I was so hyped untill i clicked on video

[@zmajodjadrana]

... Is tis clickbait then?

[@racku222]

You always have different perspective! Keep up the good work!

[@Real_extra_1]

The changing color of the white balance is killing me. Any way for you to get that set in place and not change automatically?

[@Doropression]

I'd say it's worth considering whether it was Perkz himself who thought up the move and convinced Caps and the organization to follow through with it.

[@lewis9149]

Its clear G2 only did this because they could snatch Caps from Fnatic. Although Perkz said he did personally want to roleswap to ad carry and has been talking about it for some time now. Ad carry is the most mechaically intensive role and he's really great mechanically i know thats not all it takes to be great at ad but its part of it. Its really feast or famine he will be top 2 or a complete flop.

[@QuartzGolem]

I dont really see it being feast or famine, he could end up anywhere on the board tbh. I see anything below being a top 5 in your role as a flop tho.

[@Quadra4sproductions]

Lol even Thorin knows how usless adc's are

[@sasha1558]

i think that people overblow how hard a role switch is. And for someone as skilled and experienced as perkz the only thing i would give credit to is the mindset to play duo and if he falls behind how he will deal with that like thorin said in the video

[@AlexoftheLight]

Have you seen perkz adc video from eu server? He's beasting right now

[@brimstone2620]

Funny. You can use the same title for a video about there new cs roster as well

[@samlcyo2]

He did put (LoL) at the end. Still, it's pretty confusing.

[@ersieesich9876]

Very good Video as usual but I personally would add a tiny pause at the end before you say thanks since the cut now seemed very hard

[@wiryx1]

I'm here 3 splits later. Little did you know !

[@prawtism]

Inb4 Capz learns ADC as well and they can switch between mid/ADC on the fly :>

[@cfmulvaney]

Digging those chocolate bar headboards

[@gammmer15]

Thorin you speak about lack of ingame leader in this roster and then propose adding caps for perkz, and eg Bang for ADC. This option also lacks calling.

[@stinglerder7845]

I think Perkz has an advantage over other players, that he can play(or better pick) mages and adcs, so they have way more creativity around swapes and maybe G2 wants to play faster, so i would understand it. but still a risky move and im hyped to see how G2 will perfom

[@dariomajetic5404]

True, duncan u r so right about everything, i love your videos, i play bouth lol and csgo for many years now. And i can said u r the goat of esports jurnalist. Keep up the good work.

[@jameselliott-hughes3495]

Couldn't agree more with that comment. It's also similar to TL's move, it isn't just what you gain from the acquisition, its what you can deprive the team of. TL and C9 were probably the most competitive team in both splits, and I think had this C9 roster gone into next split with Jensen they might well have been able to take games off of TL in playoffs (obviously hypothesising a bit here), but TL with Jensen has gained and deprived C9 of a key asset. As much as it pains me, its pretty smart of TL.

[@QuartzGolem]

You can see Steve's mindset behind each acquisition in the announcement video. His excitement for CoreJJ is much greater than what he feels about the Jensen deal. CoreJJ is a pickup that he believes will actually bring the roster to the next level, Jensen is such a slight improvement over Pobelter that it is very likely that the main motivation was denying the biggest threat to another domestic title(at least until 100t possibly signs Bang)

[@evanbelcher]

Like it hoards the top 2 eu mids and basically guarantees a worlds spot by dominating eu, but what happens when you get to worlds?? Seems pretty shortsighted, unless Perkz can turn into a world-class adc in 2 splits - not impossible but harder than some people might imagine, even for a top player

[@Manu-gr3ow]

Here a my 2 Cents on this: In case of Perkz, he has been talking about role-swapping at one point in his career for some years now. And if your mind is set on that idea, you will never find a better opportunity to do so. Yes, it is a big gamble for him, but I honestly think, if someone can pull this off, it would be Perkz. He certainly has the skill and game knowledge to succeed (Although there is a good chance that Mages/Bruisers Bot will stick around). We'll see how it goes... On the topic of Caps, I think for him, it is about getting better as a player. His mechanical skill can match the very best, but especially at worlds it was pretty clear, that he has obvious flaws in his play. In order to get better, teaming up with Perkz, practicing on an almost daily basis, seems like a good idea to me. He is bound to learn something. Hopefully some restraint in laning :P Overall, I'm deciding to be excited for the next season. I'm sure, G2 will come up, with some crazy picks and strategies to amuse us :P There is a chance this might actually work and if it does, it's gonna be insane!!!

[@kindler554]

Just dropping by to say that your money was on the right place XD

[@martinsmario3842]

The 2 points that need answers: How the Botlane gonna develop ?Synergy and as a duo (and individually for PerkZ) ; How Caps gonna evolve into G2, the biggest question mark: Caps as said by Thooorin is someone who did not play with the restrain sometimes necessary to pop off at the perfect time he was playing aggro everytimes .... But before he had Broxah the best jungler in EU who covered him + Hylisssang roaming mid and putting some vision around him sometimes .... Now he has a new team, so the synergy gonna take times and not only that but he's with Jankos as a Duo Mid/Jg when Jankos int like sometimes he does who's gonna save the game? Broxah was consistent alot of times. Very risky move imo, and i don't like the way Ocelote "conquer" LCS by eleminating potential rival like this, here he takes a valuable pawn midlane for himself. Cool for him but i just hope EU LCS is still stacked next split.

[@Edwoonie]

I remember the first time I saw that crumbzz intro. I literally thought I was lost lol

[@Panda256]

90% sure this is like the Huni scenario, where Huni/Caps felt like they knew more than their coach and that they were being pushed too hard, so they joined another team as a "Fuck you, Dad!" moment.

[@CxerRy96]

My biggest problem with this move is why stick a guy who is literally top in his role in the region and top 3 at worlds in terms of overall performance (not gonna say in the world there's lots of talent that didn't make worlds for various other reasons)

[@fr33ko]

Wow, this might be the first time I have seen Crumbz in a meaningful fashion in the last 6 months.

[@iXSIKOBOIXi]

Also, don't you think putting PerkZ and Caps on the same team, PerkZ can mold Caps into a better midlaner than he was?

[@swingyouth2749]

I don't have time to write a super long response, though I wanted to point out one thing you might have missed; Perkz mental wellbeing. You are so right for condemning his decision based on it ruining the potential mega-legacy he could have set as a mid laner. But, he's someone who's spoken about burn out multiple times before, and getting role fatigue, and I genuinely think that if he'd stayed playing mid for two more years he'd have become more and more miserable. So for him, I think of this is more of a move to put some life and excitement back into his career. This doesn't mean it's good for the org, but I think that's a lot of where Perkz motivation is coming from :)

[@shanietraps]

This aged well :P

[@xboxfullauto1000]

Where he at? Esports Mystery?

[@shrekfanboy5446]

G2 and screwing over their botlane. Name a more iconic duo (not counting TSM and disappointment)

[@skulphire3679]

NA and international failure.

[@A7OldRscplayer]

EU and Poverty/poor/teeth

[@coryspivey4410]

rekkles and crying on stage

[@onthatiming]

Wadid still got a team, Hjarnan seems to be taking a break. They also didn't screw over Zven and Mithy, dumbass.

[@tompossessed1729]

G2 let there bot lane go to na out of free will they did not replace them

[@christianladu1136]

shout out to thomas pynchon my dude thorin with the literary references

[@Florentin_DE]

Im watching this after they won msi and im laughing my ass off :) this was by far the cockiest move any team has done ever and it is so awesome that it worked out :)

[@michaelmills3066]

Good work as always @Thooorin. I wish you were more involved with Lol. It has alot more money than CS.

[@lovebattleforge]

Hes not welcomed there for events and such... besides cs pays a lot

[@michaelmills3066]

@@lovebattleforge Yeah Riot doesn't like people who call out their bullshit agenda.

[@chtholly8084]

@@michaelmills3066 Besides, Thorin has repeatedly stated that other than high-profile matches, he really doesn't enjoy watching League games, so why would he get more involved with LoL? It's one thing making a video here and there on the really big League stories (because he is the e-Sports Historian), but I don't think there's a person in the world who could or would incentivise Thorin to get more involved.

[@Jack-pe7sb]

Not in terms of content I don’t think

[@michaelmills3066]

@Thooorin creates the best LoL content. I wish I had a way to contact him. Duncan knows Lol is worth his time. The scene is much bigger and has a much bigger impact in the e-sports industry. For someone who isn't interested in Lol content Duncan spends a good amount of his time creating.

[@beamer_boi]

Perkz performed way better at worlds

[@bobbungo2]

Perkz has shown to be a cerebral player that has clutch mechanics and this world showed he doesn't choke, he shows the fuck up. If Perkz pulls it off, he will be one of the most legendary players to ever play the game and remembered for a long long time. It's a gamble only legends will make

[@tobygreppellini5960]

sadly caps is non of those things and now doesnt have a roaming support or a stable jungler to stop him inting his tits off

[@Arizzo97]

here before the video goes public

[@winstong7438]

Damn that impersonation of a hypothetical thought process that caps might of had was a bit toxic 😂

[@TheStormie456]

If i'm g2 or perkz, im stipulating that the adc roll needs to be treated as such, and this is my reasoning. If anything goes wrong (and i feel like this team is going to have a rocky start because of shotcalling and identity) the FIRST move is going to be "oh perkz is an unreal mid" and theyre going to pivot him back. If youre going to do this, double down on perkz being an adc, don't hit the oh shit button as soon as something goes wrong. IF perkz can hack it and be a 1-2 adc in the LEC we need to up his street cred

[@ohhbliviousgaming]

What if G2 were able to get mikyx and bang. Wunder Jankos Perkz Bang Mikyx I'm new to LoL and don't know if bang could communicate well but on paper dope team

[@dominickrinaldi6727]

Looks like Fanatic is going with Nemesis from MAD Lions E.C.

[@mr.h4ndzum175]

yeah wadid was amazing against rng.

[@ffsFonix]

video not in sub boxes thorin it is unlisted!

[@Novalifee]

I think the role swap is almost an insult to the god-tier bot lanes like Hans-Sama Gorilla or Rekless & Hylissang. Certainly Perkz is one of the most talented mid laners EUW has produced, and realy stable... but I strongly believe that thinking he is as gifted to pass trough people that has been mastering the position for 5 or more years, along diferent metas... is not a bold move, is almost ridiculous. On the other hand, if we consider the meta changes this year... and the fact that roles are not written in stone.... is G2 thinking behind the scenes on stablishing a new & diferent style in the bot lane? Maybe constantly flexing the mages around mid & bot lane? That posibility is certainly SCARY. Because Perkz could roll over with an aggresive support in that scenario. I can see him easily getting to caster ADCS like lucian or Ezreal. But honestly, I don´t see Perkz playing stuff like Cailtyn. The mindset to play that is not "is a diferenet champion, but I can keep my playstyle. Requires a total diferent set of abilities. And... outside soloQ. Can he have the ability to not absorb resources from Jankos, and give it to Caps and Wunder, like Fnatic did lately? How will he perform there? Too many questions. Still, in terms of publicity, at least G2 has woke up the curiosity of all of us.

[@commonpepe2270]

is that a sock on his mic?

[@evgeniasenov9470]

Perkz is up there with the EU mid greats tbh.But why not just get a decent ADC like Bang for example,he has some english knowledge won't be an absolute disaster...now Perkz has to somehow be on the level of Rekkles or at least Hans which is ridiculous...but on the other hand he said he is burned out so..

[@TheKillkorde]

I've been a Fnatic fan and played League since season 3. I'd prefer Perkz over Caps in a Worlds Final. Not because he left, pretty happy he left actually. He might even surprise me and become better than he was, but for now I thank him for his service and am glad Fnatic have moved on. Hopefully he doesn't become the next Febiven.

[@SlimeGod666]

Thorin ' do you like my sleepy voice ' Shields

[@CA-ml3iv]

So early its still unlisted :j

[@igniortix]

Thooorin with the sigmund freud look

[@larzarus1234]

RoleSwapping the 2nd best Midlander of Worlds to ADC. thinking

[@shaso5532]

Also u underestimate the fact that having both Perkz and Caps means they denied top2 mids from other teams

[@ul4906]

Perkz doesn't need to be as good / better than Hjarnan, its worse than that - he needs to be as good as the best ADC G2 could have got if they kept Perkz mid. And he won't be.

[@NeverNedDead]

yeah probably not.

[@soaptastesalrightiguess7932]

Also... I think it's important to remember that Perkz is human -- Imagine how much stress the poor guy is under...

[@snooples]

wen u thought he wuz postin on france cs

[@TaintedStaff]

I'm waiting for Thorin's thoughts on the G2 csgo roster.

[@Pedro-ql4pq]

STOP FEEDING THE NARRATIVE THAT KHAN CAN'T PLAY TANKS. Summer Split regular season champions picked: - Mundo: x10 - Ornn: x2 - Cho'Gath: x4 - Darius: x3 - Renekton: x1 - Kled: x2 - Gnar: x2 - Camille: x3 - GP: x1 - Jayce: x4 - Jax: x1 - Vladimir: x1 - Kennen: x2 - Gragas: x3 - Aatrox: 2 Not only can he play TANKS, but he also can play just about anything in the top lane that you'd want your top laner to play. And yes, I will acknowledge KZ didn't have the greatest Summer split and failed to make Worlds but that team had problems that go way beyond the narrative that a single particular player couldn't play tanks.

[@bananabird62]

I mean its not like their summer was as good as their spring 2018 where he only played 3 tank games (sion)

[@Pedro-ql4pq]

@@bananabird62 Yeah, its not like Pray and Gorilla suddenly started to look old as dirt in summer, and even then Khan won MVP. In Spring he played more carries because the meta allowed him to. Whats with you people suddenly talking about tank players as if they are the best in the world? No one talks about LetMe or Impact in the same light as they do Smeb or theShy more recently. What's with suddely wanting to bring Khan down because "he cant play tanks" when the dude's one of the best carry players in the world and a capable tank player too? Yall really want to follow a stupid ass narrative like that?

[@tompossessed1729]

I like lol

[@PHILLYMEDIC69]

*scolds hjarnan* 1 minute later.. *scolds perks even harder* ahhahahah i fucking love thorin

[@mdhpclan]

The thing about hjarnan is that your opponents have to play with 4 banns which is/could be really important

[@NeverNedDead]

Why 4? Only his heimerdiger is dangerous or am I wrong here?

[@DemicentDog]

@@NeverNedDead Exactly... they must ban heimerdinger so instead of 5 bans they have only 4

[@darrak1]

Guys, let's be frank here. I like balls and G2's got some serious balls pulling this shit. I haven't watched EU LCS in 3 years, but now I'll, just to see if G2 can pull this off or fail miserably. No homo though.

[@DollofFate]

I have to say before i watch this. As i dont like to say, i have to admitted that g2 will be so strong since the mage/bruiser bot is still a thing. Perkz will be able to pick either traditional ad or mages and that will be even better than what bwipo did last split. I dont see any other ad will be able to do that. Especially the top adc like rekkles is not even attempt to try it out

[@omars4521]

It's still pre-season so current meta doesn't count

[@dontask3613]

I think they would do fine even in an ADC meta, but I don't think mages in the botlane will stay around for very long.

[@darrenfleming7901]

perkz should've bamboozled them all and went to fnatic, would've made imo the best eu roster for sure.

[@ragnorian257]

Perkz was playing adcs during funnel meta anyways fuck it why not. Just pissed because there was no reason for Caps to leave fnatic

[@TheKillkorde]

Also, Bwipo is the best player in EU. Doesn't mean Fnatic should swap him mid.

[@LelouchLothric]

#G2ARMY is invading Thooorin!

[@Huperdome]

Guys, don't take what Thorin is saying so serious. He is not a good analyst in League so he is not always right. Kikis was previously playing top lane for G2 when they won one of their EU trophies. Years later, he joined Polish super team Illuminar as a jungler. He literally transitioned to jungle month or so before joining. Then they absolutely destroyed polish scene and European scene with his jungle knowledge, later after this Vitality got him because of Yamatos great understanding of players. We already know what that ended, right? They went for Worlds only because of Kikis, the player who was playing top lane for many years in LCS. Top lane - won EU, transitioned to Jungle - shocked whole world with his synergy with Vitality. That kind of transition isn't always bad, if player KNOW he can do it, I would say we should let him. Just wait and we will see. Im not afraid to say, based on my own analogy, and psychological observation, that Perkz is that kind of person like Kikis that can do multiple of things at once. And Sorry for my eng is someone felt pain after reading this haha

[@Englerko]

kikis was jungle before top , also he played mostly tank duty on top because expect communication was shit. And playing maokai /nautilus vs playing adc is god damn difference.

[@tobygreppellini5960]

i genuinly think perkz is still a better and more consistant mid than caps especially at world, caps had a good number of games especially in the play offs where he got absolutely clapped and in a large respect they succeded inspite of caps not because of him he had some less that convincing games vs c9 he got humiliated by both scout and rookie in multiple games (the yasuo one comes to mind) where as perkz was a determining factor in beating the most hyped undisputed no1 team in the world going into worlds and frankly held up better vs rookie that caps did and has a much more measured play style where as caps is smash and get fed or int the game away

[@tobygreppellini5960]

and be4 someone says vs c9 about the azir play that won the game i give the same arguement as the jackylove play that won ig the game vs kt it was a momentary over performance in what was a fairly lack luster performance in that game to that point in a game where they won of the back of the play from bwipo that swung the game in there favor killing the enemy adc pulling 3 people away and doing substancial damage to all 3 for fnatic to get the baron and then some poor play by c9 over commiting in a bad spot

[@tobygreppellini5960]

when u type a comment early in a video and then thoorin makes the same points after saying caps was better >.>

[@TheKillkorde]

G2 are gambling when they don't need to. Rather replace bot and keep Perkz in mid. Also get the feeling Perkz was pushing for this, but not because he really wants to play the role. He seemed extremely burnt out at worlds and he's possibly thinking playing adc will remove a lot of pressure from him. Not because he's bad at dealing with pressure, but because over extended periods of time it burns him out.

[@DARKLORD97873]

are u okay u sound kinda sick ??

[@FadedXenox]

I thought you were gonna talk about the cs go roster with the addition of jackz and lucky

[@DarkChaosKaxi]

This decision feels like a lovechild of Zuna (Vulcan) and Rekkles (Alliance). I can't help but feel that both Caps and Perkz will look worse by Summer.

[@AvaPlaya13]

I disagree about the caps - faker part of this vid. I think that worlds showed how much room he has to improve in that regard. Do I think Caps is an incredibly talented player, who can single-handedly win you the game with advantages that he gains in lane? Yes. But you know who does it better? Rookie. Those matchups weren't favorable for Caps, but he was absolutely DISMANTLED by Rookie. He was down 30-40 cs by 15 minutes. And we called Rookie "Poor Man's Faker" He has a long way to go before we put him there. I would like to add that I had several EU fans tell me that Caps was a better mid than Rookie, both before and during world's. The guy lost lane to Scout, much less Rookie.

[@KeeperOfDarknessvk]

Perkz with the Ambition long con,switching roles to win worlds

[@gabewoods7630]

Who thought that he meant the CS:GO gamble (minecraft for life)

[@GlacialCityMTG]

Team Liquid CoreJJ?

[@NeverNedDead]

Hey don't criticize hjarnans performance against IG. He played good actually. The only part of the map that didn't get completely obliterated was bot lane so it wasn't his fault. He is still not one of the best adcs I agree

[@maeschder]

This video should be a bit of real talk for all the people that say he just blindly hates on Hjarnan

[@LinardsZ]

Bwipo can play tanks Thorinnn watch the games of EU LCS Spring Finals

[@shaso5532]

I'd rather go with Wunder tank top than Bwipo tho

[@weszzz589]

1 Angle that I don't think has been touched is this: Riot intends to have Mages as well as ADC's in the botlane and possibly diversify even more so therefore putting Perkz in the botlane might actually be a really smart move. Perkz has proven to be able to play both archetypes of champions. He might be 1 of the only players who can pull that off at such an elite level. So it probably will give G2 a lot of flexability in draft compared to other teams who have botlaners that can only play Marksmen. In this regard Perkz can bring the uniqueness that Hjärnan brought to their draft, but potentially at a higher level. Therefore Perkz might just be a straight upgrade over Hjärnan.

[@Vaki1397]

Congrats to Misfits on winning LEC 2019

[@prashanthkumaran2768]

Mason Kemnitz hmmmmmmmmmmmm............

[@SkillsofAesthetics]

he thinks his talent can over shy the experience ..But how can he compare to the top adcs that played these limited champions their whole life .. Will perks be better than han sama? or the shalke dude ? .. well we have to wait.. but me neither dont really like that move.. its exciting for sure.. but something negative smells in the air

[@Barahuna]

Sry but Thorin has little clue here. It was Wunder and Perkz carrying worlds. Wunder did a phenomenal job. On the other hand the true weakness of G2 is Jankos. He is a very inconsistent player. Caps was good because others supported him like Hylissang or soaz roaming and sacrificing themselves for his lead. As you stated right, with new adc mikyx will be hugging him. The point is, perkz will no longer have that much impact on the game as he used to, that will be a mental challenge for him.

[@krzysiekx222]

That words about jankos don't age well.

[@blondasak4696]

Jankos choker, 2 Times worlds semis, once in finals and MSI champ. Hm. How many Eu Players have better International results 😂

[@michaelmills3066]

Brilliant move for G2. I noticed at World's G2's middle and top lane kept up with or stayed ahead of their enemy laner during laning phase. G2's bot lane would be 30-40 cs behind. If G2 can have that pressure in all three lanes they'll definetly be a top team at next World's. So, I believe it was a great move. Now all three lanes will be pressuring early and not have a weak lane that can be exploited. Great move for G2. Bad for Fnatic.

[@tobygreppellini5960]

will they? perkz is entirely unproven and vs better players caps runs it down mid like a bot (similar to bwipo when he fell apart when he finally faced a top lane threat) this is a stupid move perkz and soaz have a similar dynamic in the comparison to caps and bwipo cap's is great with a lead in a winning match up but is a complete liability with no off switch and no concept of safe play in a losing match up the same as bwipo where as perkz and soaz are far more stable and adaptable players and far more capable of playing the bad end of a match up without pissing the game down the drain fnatic fucked up letting soaz go and g2 fucked up letting perkz go (atleast from mid anyway) both teams have made some horrible off season choices and have doubled down on a meta which has historically been brief whenever it has appeared both teams will not perform to the standard they did this year i will guarentee that

[@Mazsi1201]

@@tobygreppellini5960 "caps runs it down against better mids" happened against one midlaner the entire year :D

[@ryanrobinson2850]

I will definitely mourn 2018 FNC but I don't think perkz to ad is a desperation move. I think perks could be one of the best adcs. He's already proved he can do it mechanically he just needs the game knowledge. It's definitely a gamble but the pay off is huge.

[@seif.boughanmi8956]

Yeah poor FNC not only they came so close on winning worlds but right after getting stomped in the finals they go and lose caps and soaz

[@FIFAxPROxRxUMADBRO]

G2 just fucked there bot lane hard nothing wrong with hjarnan and wadid they played so fucking well at worlds and when G2 ran the gauntlet to make it to worlds they were a massive reason they made it. I think fnatic won’t miss caps I feel like people forget how much broxah and hyli roamed or sat mid all the time and sometimes especially at worlds he would absolutely throw games like he did in the finals

[@tsunayoshisawada5353]

"Western Pawn" 😂😂

[@Athraxes]

Was probably intended to weaken Fnatic more than make urself better...

[@Affenpeter]

Seriously? You rate Jankos the highest? Wtf .. This guy has underperformed whole summer split and even fed so hard at worlds that they almost couldn´t make it out of groups. There is a reason this guy was called a choker. In my opinion the jungle role is the only weak point of this squad.

[@21stcenturymusicman]

Who else clicked on this thinking it was about the CS team?

[@blendon8]

I place Perkz above Caps but Caps has more talent, it's sad he is so inconsistent.

[@tobygreppellini5960]

consistency is a talent and a very important one

[@Mnu3l]

Caps isnt fully develop and i dont think g2 is the right place to do it, caps should stayed whit youngbuck 1 more year (yes youngbuck not fnatic)... Totally agree whit the points about Perkz.

[@S1eepingBearu]

I feel like this video was made for me after my skt comment lol

[@wongwaijeremy]

EU has more Mid talent than ADC talent. I can see this is a good move for future of LEC. But it is definitely not the "Super super team" at the moment. The super super team was the Fnatic lineup.