TSM BLEW Their Enormous UNFAIR ADVANTAGE With Bjergsen - TSM's Wasted Windows - League of Legends

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Some thoughts on TSM not embracing the enormous advantage they gained by having Bjergsen grandfathered in as an NA resident for so many years.
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@MrNrj6490
@MrNrj6490 3 жыл бұрын
“What about this lineup - Impact, Xmithie, Bjergsen, Doublelift, and CoreJJ” So TL with Bjergsen
@xJinRaGna
@xJinRaGna 3 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't have changed much. Jensen and Bjerg were so close to each back then that it's only a slightly better TL.
@BBshark000
@BBshark000 3 жыл бұрын
Change Impact to Alphari and Xmithie to Blaber then NA has a chance of making out of groups.
@TheUnderJaker
@TheUnderJaker 3 жыл бұрын
@@BBshark000 lmao. Jensen was just as good as Bjerg. And C9 beat a Korean team 3-0 with a rookie top and support. It wasn’t the players. It was the org. Regi and TSM are absolutely aweful at developing and using talent. Regi makes his coach’s, coach like it’s season 3 still. They play slow, scaling league of legends. They have 0 versatility, even with Alphari. TSM will never be good until Regi leaves the org
@lucianopereira8961
@lucianopereira8961 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah that's the point, tsm could have had TL amazing roster with bjergsen instead of Jensen, which wouldn't change that much.
@marstonpablo2542
@marstonpablo2542 3 жыл бұрын
@@BBshark000 And Doublelift to Sneaky and then they'll make it past Viktor
@brefi_art
@brefi_art 3 жыл бұрын
the transition from TSM roast to Gamersupps ads is why im here.
@maurice6908
@maurice6908 3 жыл бұрын
work of art ngl
@Jonius
@Jonius 3 жыл бұрын
3:34 "C9, TSM and TL all have better international results than TSM." Oh wait...
@AleXoEx0
@AleXoEx0 3 жыл бұрын
Think he meant CLG instead of TSM in the list of 3 :p
@kingpingaming4503
@kingpingaming4503 3 жыл бұрын
I was a fan of Bjerg back when he was on NIP. I got excited when he decided to come to NA. To this day I'm upset that he never got a proper structure around him (like an actual damn coach). Back in the day people were hype to see him fight Faker. Imo TSM failed Bjerg, and I feel he could've accomplished so much more internationally.
@maurice6908
@maurice6908 3 жыл бұрын
he had the opportunity to go back to EU. Bad judgement on Bjergs end imo. Regi probably baited him to stay and Bjerg was still too young see through it. I feel like he wasted the height of his career. On FNC or G2 he could have actually won Worlds/MSI.
@kingpingaming4503
@kingpingaming4503 3 жыл бұрын
@@maurice6908 i agree with a lot of what you're saying. In the end it was ultimately all his decision. I hold the opinion that a good coach is necessary for an athlete to recognize their fullest potential. I think TSM failed Bjerg by giving him how many years of "im just a filler coach Parth".
@mattk3158
@mattk3158 3 жыл бұрын
I've thought the same for a while now. Copenhagen Wolves was my original favorite team, and I was so excited when I saw Bjergsen was coming to NA. Looking back on what it turned into, it's such a disappointment.
@jihadalott992
@jihadalott992 3 жыл бұрын
@@maurice6908 I dont think its bad judgement at all. Bjerg made massive amounts of money & had regional success. Yeah, lack of international success sucks, but it was never guaranteed that EU was gonna win worlds with Bjerg in the first place (bc Koreans dominated internationally for most of his career). Now, he has a good legacy (at least regionally, and lets face it, NA isnt winning worlds any times soon), loads of money, and he was given stock in TSM. People think that legacy is all that matters when at the end of the day, money drives the world and being able to make MILLIONS more in NA led to a more financially lucrative career as EU didnt start paying their players well until only recently (like past 3 years).
@johnchoi4473
@johnchoi4473 3 жыл бұрын
TSM is the reason Bjerg is big as he is right now. They failed him in not getting international success, but they are the reason Bjergson is such a big name. Bjerg is one of the most decorated and successful players in league history. TSM made made him the NA God. He is set for life
@HlebHD
@HlebHD 3 жыл бұрын
Usually when someone pauses his video to promote something I skip it but Thorin makes even those entertaining af.
@mwaithephoto
@mwaithephoto 3 жыл бұрын
Kinda messed up you put the jensen intro and then proceed to wear the Cloud9 jersey lol LOVE IT
@shrekfanboy5446
@shrekfanboy5446 3 жыл бұрын
JENSEN 🐍
@TheOfficailTribe
@TheOfficailTribe 3 жыл бұрын
It was the double flex
@TheTandemParanormalSociety5139
@TheTandemParanormalSociety5139 3 жыл бұрын
It's funny he put someone claiming to be the best mid laner in Lcs on the intro at all
@chltmdwp
@chltmdwp 3 жыл бұрын
Connecting dots that doesn't exist.
@jamescalder5115
@jamescalder5115 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine TSM with Hauntzer, Karsa, Bjergsen, Doublelift and SwordArt... That was something they could have done and taken 2 players from FW who were relatively cheap and were super strong players at that point.
@AaronBeSpeedy
@AaronBeSpeedy 3 жыл бұрын
That sounds nasty! I can see literally every lane destroying anyone in the world on any given day
@jamescalder5115
@jamescalder5115 3 жыл бұрын
@@AaronBeSpeedy That team would have been insane and tbh it would have cost a fraction of what they paid SwordArt this year for 2 internationally proven players in their prime.
@DEVILONBOTHSHOULDERS
@DEVILONBOTHSHOULDERS 2 жыл бұрын
@@AaronBeSpeedy bjergsen and hauntzer vs lck and lpl solo laners LOL
@maurice6908
@maurice6908 3 жыл бұрын
Sadly TSM fans don't even know about their history. They either live in the past or in constant denial. They still think TSM is the most successful org in NA but forget about these facts. Thorin summed it up nicely: 1. In the last 7 splits TSM won one title and were only twice in the final 2. Six times at worlds and only made it out of groups once (also under lucky circumstances, player from 2nd best team banned, C9 got four times out of groups) 3. Two times at MSI, never got out of groups (TL & CLG made finales btw) No flame intended but its hard to respect people who think that TSM is the best NA org ever.
@haisj2006
@haisj2006 3 жыл бұрын
as a TSM fan ngnl i have to agree, there were a lot of players and opportunities could have acquired back in the day
@Gungrave123
@Gungrave123 3 жыл бұрын
So, in other words if Regi wasn't Regi, TSM could have amount to something? Never knew.
@macoveisilviu1607
@macoveisilviu1607 3 жыл бұрын
Damn, I love the way Thooorin is advertising Gamersupps.
@LordKeram
@LordKeram 3 жыл бұрын
One thing Thorin didn't even touch on, but which is huge is the Santorin residency. A guy who has not played a single split in LCS, but was counted as an NA resident for his whole carrier. It's not an overstatement to say, Santorin might not have a carrier in LoL if that doesn't happen.
@cbl1222
@cbl1222 3 жыл бұрын
I think he has a carrier cuz he had to take the plane to come to NA
@KojitheMaster
@KojitheMaster 3 жыл бұрын
That ad was pretty good ngl
@XxILikePie03
@XxILikePie03 3 жыл бұрын
The fact Thorin can do the ad mid-explanation and then jump back like it didn't happen lmao pro!
@fenixflys
@fenixflys 3 жыл бұрын
As a long-time TSM fan (until recently), Thorin is 100% correct. All of the times Regi says "Our goal is to win worlds" were followed by absolutely disappointing roster moves. We could have had PraY and GorillA after an amazing run at worlds. We could have had kaSing (who everyone thought would be a great choice after scrims leaked) and though we got biofrost, we did nothing with the rest of the roster. If TSM wanted to win worlds, they would through money at bjergsen and doublelift to get them to play with Huni, Spica (or a much better international jungle), and Swordart. We could pick up SelfMade or even Karsa and actually have a team that would compete internationally.
@joaobrito2653
@joaobrito2653 3 жыл бұрын
Akaadian could very well be the second best jungler they had in terms of his best split. His 2019 split, especially playoffs were pretty good
@joaobrito2653
@joaobrito2653 3 жыл бұрын
@Jay exactly, and then got fucked over in summer because tsm thought it wasnt fair for grig to not get a chance to play just cause it was hurt. but is it fair for akaadian to have to fight for his spot after being 1 game away from beating that tl super team? no it wasnt, and life isnt always fair, and it would be much better for the team if they built on their existing synergy, but instead they regressed massively as a team because they were flip flopping their junglers, which means their synergy with mid and support will be worse
@trentgraham5123
@trentgraham5123 3 жыл бұрын
It's funny how if TSM actually did this and exploited the loophole, Thorin would be making a video on how much a cheating org they are for twisting loopholes. They don't exploit a loophole and they're flamed for not doing it. Makes absolutely no sense to me, even as a C9 fan.
@joshschroeder5127
@joshschroeder5127 3 жыл бұрын
As a long-time TSM fan... I laughed so hard at the Gamersupps ad. Well done.
@beldaras6787
@beldaras6787 3 жыл бұрын
The ad may have been the most banger part of the video. Had me laughing so hard!
@birdy4215
@birdy4215 3 жыл бұрын
Great follow-up to the topic discussed on summoning insight
@stefankatsarov5806
@stefankatsarov5806 3 жыл бұрын
I think a banger roster could have been Huni, Reingover, Bjergsen, Doblelift and what ever supp to be honest in 2016. Who knows that might have been the best NA team ever, might even go to semis at worlds before C9
@years-ti7xl
@years-ti7xl 3 жыл бұрын
So basically Fnatic 2015 but with Bjerg and Doublelift, I think Smoothie or Biofrost would be good, but I would say Smoothie since he was playing well on C9.
@nikkof5384
@nikkof5384 3 жыл бұрын
If it’s 2016 it has to be Aphro. Borderline impossible due to the recent Doublelift kick from CLG but no way he wasn’t the best support.
@manporo5865
@manporo5865 3 жыл бұрын
Basically, the issue was having Dyrus and Hauntzer instead of an import, but at that time, there wasn't any real top laner that was worth taking that was available for importing.
@Verlisify
@Verlisify 3 жыл бұрын
"If you like that subtle taste, unlike those TSM fans that know fuckall about taste" That plug is making me switch to gamersupps with Thorin's code when I run out of my current energy powder stockpile
@winstong7438
@winstong7438 3 жыл бұрын
Thorin is simply put, a G.
@nostalgiacorner1999
@nostalgiacorner1999 3 жыл бұрын
They were obsessed with “communication” and “development”
@NickPilmeyer
@NickPilmeyer 3 жыл бұрын
First Thooorin video I've watched in a couple years, can't remember his accent being this heavy. Did it get heavier in lockdown or?
@mingxungoh5630
@mingxungoh5630 3 жыл бұрын
Ah my fav Thorin content. The one where he just shits all over TSM. This is what i subscribed for.
@TheDarkKnightEE
@TheDarkKnightEE 3 жыл бұрын
it is unfathomable how TSM did not at any point pick up Odoamne whilst they had a selfish ADC player (doublelift) they could have had 3 EU players in the top 3 positions then DL and his pick of the NA supports
@laflame6031
@laflame6031 3 жыл бұрын
It seems to me that TSM chose to shy away from Koreans because of their experience with Lustboy. Having a person with likely poor English, from a different culture and a high chance to be homesick/culture shocked might be a hassle that makes a korean import signing less appealing. If my explanation is accurate, it might inform the reason why they avoided koreans at the jungle and support positions since those are heavy communication based roles.
@years-ti7xl
@years-ti7xl 3 жыл бұрын
TSM: doesn't want to sign Koreans Also TSM: we signed Huni.
@chanquyenhuynh9095
@chanquyenhuynh9095 3 жыл бұрын
@@years-ti7xl Huni has already had experiences in the West. He played in the West more than in Korea. He also knows English so communication isn't a problem
@nubbinthemonkey
@nubbinthemonkey 3 жыл бұрын
They won 2 back-to-back LCS championships and an IEM with Lustboy. He wasn't even at his peak. They wish they had more players of Lusts caliber *Also made it out of worlds groups with Lust
@cryfier
@cryfier 3 жыл бұрын
I love that you show how bad of management is going on over in NA. It is not only the big incompetent orgs, but also the whole show and everything. What a waste of time and resources.
@PixelKatana
@PixelKatana 3 жыл бұрын
Thorin you are the GOAT. Never change!
@bronsonnolan1383
@bronsonnolan1383 3 жыл бұрын
Man Jensen couldnt even be bothered to fix his alph alpha.....Imagine these guys in real jobs
@CrustyDonutts
@CrustyDonutts 3 жыл бұрын
Cloud9 really feel like they have kicked TSM off the pedestal and taken the spot as fan favorite. All my TSM Fan friends hardly watch the league pro scene anymore and I literally can't tell you the last time I seen "Bay Life" anything.
@NoradNoxtus
@NoradNoxtus 3 жыл бұрын
My life was uncertain until 10:09 Now I feel safe and at home :)
@connoryouknowwhat4537
@connoryouknowwhat4537 3 жыл бұрын
10:20 cracked me up
@m1racle348
@m1racle348 3 жыл бұрын
xD
@Boy10Dio
@Boy10Dio 3 жыл бұрын
tsm could have had prime huni, prime reignover, bjerg, d-lift, aphromoo. how they didn't break the bank to get this lineup after huni and reignover took over the eu lcs i will never know, i was expecting them to at least rectify their top side of the map immediately when the combination of huni and reignover emerged at fnatic.
@kissblade8587
@kissblade8587 3 жыл бұрын
That clip about GamerSupps is gold. But tbf with TSM, they did try a lot of things he mentioned like importing EU players and they absolutely bombed with them. (Kobbe, Yellowstar)
@danielley5430
@danielley5430 3 жыл бұрын
Edited :zven mithy
@Speedlover77
@Speedlover77 3 жыл бұрын
When you see Jensen in the intro , you know its going to be a banger Video
@prawtism
@prawtism 3 жыл бұрын
What does Jensen say after "or at the very least..."?
@williampham1399
@williampham1399 3 жыл бұрын
Jensen opening pog champ lol
@jacquelinej2036
@jacquelinej2036 3 жыл бұрын
Anyone catch what he was saying after "you may know me as the best mid laner in LCS or...."? The audio is pretty low.
@williampham1399
@williampham1399 3 жыл бұрын
@@jacquelinej2036 i couldnt understand him either, definitely a combo of him speaking low and a bit fast
@nathanwang4047
@nathanwang4047 3 жыл бұрын
@@jacquelinej2036 or you will soon
@loxi9
@loxi9 3 жыл бұрын
@@jacquelinej2036 "or at the very least you will soon enough"
@RaymondGOAT
@RaymondGOAT 3 жыл бұрын
TSM had the best Mid-Laner in NA for years I 10000% Thoorin this video been waiting on this video
@Sam-uf7nu
@Sam-uf7nu 3 жыл бұрын
How is S10 Summer Spica a top 4 jungler but not S10 Spring Blaber?
@isaacgavin7
@isaacgavin7 3 жыл бұрын
He was talking about all the junglers who played for TSM in their best iteration of said player.
@Sam-uf7nu
@Sam-uf7nu 3 жыл бұрын
@@isaacgavin7 Oh lol, seems like I switched my brain of... thank you! I was wondering how the best junglers are so bad :D
@cy5386
@cy5386 3 жыл бұрын
This video only makes sense on hindsight. Thorin highlights the import ruling perfectly but completely misses on the fact that; at the time, the 2016-2017 TSM rosters 1) Neither showed any signs that they would choke internationally 2) Actually appeared like they could have done well at worlds The notion that TSM shat the bed for every other year is fine, but the idea that people thought that Hauntzer and Biofrost were worse players than their counterparts- even on the global level, is so founded on recency bias because truth is, at the time, nobody saw either player as a “weak link.” Other than that, quite an insightful video
@erikmachado4489
@erikmachado4489 3 жыл бұрын
100% agree with TSM having unfair advantage with Bjergsen being considered NA but hard disagree with just about everything else he said. Realistically the only time maybe TSM could have done more was in 2015 when they could have replaced Dyrus. But keep in mind Dyrus was a legacy player and Regi wasn't going to basically say "fuck you Dyrus you are out" also TSM won IEM katowice that year which was huge for a western org during the time. The following year TSM legit got who people were calling the greatest western support/leader of all time. Unfortunately it did not work out but TSM was now on limited time to replace a support and biofrost was the perfect solution. Also 2016 TSM was atm considered by many a really good team they had a tough group and were still within a single game of getting out so I completely understand TSM running it back in 2017. Now in 2018 TSM literally got the "best bot in the west" and picked up the young hyped jungler. In hindsight it is easy to criticize that move now but back then that was considered an excellent move. Again in 2019 TSM did have the best possible roster they probably could have with the import rule in. They got a young superstar top laner in broken blade, retained Zven and picked up smoothie who at the time was considered one of the best supports in NA. In 2020 again very similar. It is easy to say all this when you have seen the results buy atm it was honestly great moves on TSM end. Again 2015 was probably the only year where TSM didn't take full advantage of it but as I mentioned before there was more to it.
@Bozothcow
@Bozothcow 3 жыл бұрын
There's no way Gamersups pays Thooorin enough.
@chrism8340
@chrism8340 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the evening laughs Thorin, my dude!
@gweegwee3
@gweegwee3 3 жыл бұрын
holy fuck that ad read
@elmobepimpin344
@elmobepimpin344 3 жыл бұрын
The problem is you're looking back with hindsight and using international success as a metric. Because you have to play a full year with the team and win to even qualify for like 10 international games, you don't know how your players are going to stack up. In 2016, NA was leaps ahead of EU, they hard stomped EU in rift rivals, so why would you want to import these no names when your domestic talent is already better. I would have taken hauntzer over impact back in 2016, the hard part is having to import to play with doublelift because it's important to click on how you want to play through botlane. Most years TSM roster looked stacked even if it didn't work out.
@youthinkso2695
@youthinkso2695 3 жыл бұрын
10:42 LMAOOOOOOOOOOO
@xXxThibertxXx
@xXxThibertxXx 3 жыл бұрын
That Jensen intro and Bjerg talk is so lowkey i love it.
@kv222
@kv222 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine not believing in importing Koreans then crying to Riot for no import restriction KEKW
@Wizardi1111
@Wizardi1111 3 жыл бұрын
Jensen will NEVER be better than Perkz.
@ryanryan3220
@ryanryan3220 3 жыл бұрын
Thoorin & TSM the iconic duo.
@maurice6908
@maurice6908 3 жыл бұрын
Really sad that the NA competitive attitude is all about having the least NA players on your team and meanwhile maxing out on imports and still call it NA. Essentially its just about exploiting the import rule to the limit. Sadge, the future of our regional talent really is doomed to say the truth. For god's sake we need a reasonable import rule to keep our identity as a NA regional league. The grandfathering rule is pretty bs to say the least.
@jonathanfuchikami5799
@jonathanfuchikami5799 3 жыл бұрын
Let's ignore strength of groups too while we're at it. I agree TSM sh*t the bed with not giving bjerg the best teams they could have built. but C9 for whatever reason (or plot armor) has had weaker teams in their groups, so of course they are going to have a better shot at getting outta groups lol
@years-ti7xl
@years-ti7xl 3 жыл бұрын
TSM continues to be a meme. I don't see any surprises with them.
@Shingeki__
@Shingeki__ 3 жыл бұрын
Bjereg and Thorin? I'm in.
@SoyFelipeCTM
@SoyFelipeCTM 3 жыл бұрын
Whats popular youtube, another day another BANGER of a video
@c10ember39
@c10ember39 3 жыл бұрын
It felt like they kept trying to import in talent, but the talent never ended up working out properly, for a variety of reasons. It seems like their team culture is just not ideal for anyone not named Bjergsen or Doublelift. Their integration was how they stumbled the hardest IMO. Could you imagine a blaberfish2 straight out of proving grounds onto TSM instead of C9? There's no world he would've turned into a 2x MVP/2x LCS champ on TSM.
@Ravens_Light
@Ravens_Light 3 жыл бұрын
Where the hell did this mans eyebrows go?
@ShawnBlaque
@ShawnBlaque 3 жыл бұрын
Luckily 100T should beat them out for the 3rd spot this year so they won't have to embarrass themselves internationally anymore :)
@maurice6908
@maurice6908 3 жыл бұрын
true, also C9 and TL are no joke, same for 100T even though these teams are not really NA teams tbh including TSM ofc. Imagine TL, C9 and 100T going to worlds. Are there even any NA guys left?
@loxi9
@loxi9 3 жыл бұрын
@@maurice6908 3 na players total average one per team KEKW
@maurice6908
@maurice6908 3 жыл бұрын
@@loxi9 100T is actually 5 imports KEKW 1 Chinese 1 German 2 Koreans 1 Australian
@BimBachelord
@BimBachelord 3 жыл бұрын
tsm didn't exploit? my guy.., they are NAs main importers.
@aceykerr8752
@aceykerr8752 3 жыл бұрын
You mean the talen suppression machine?
@rrrogan
@rrrogan 3 жыл бұрын
It's absolute bullshit Jensen didn't get residency but Bjergsen squeeked by. Probably one of my top five all time Riot LCS garbage decisions.
@OwGash
@OwGash 3 жыл бұрын
That they did...people never realized how good bjergen could have been. He shoulda stayed in europe tbh, he would be super good there cause he would have good team/players to play with/against. NA ruins talent. And ye, tsm always imported ''shotcallers'' instead of godly asian players. That phonecall burn lol
@Eva_xoxo
@Eva_xoxo 3 жыл бұрын
I don't really have much sympathy for bejrg, he had every chance to leave TSM and chose to stay there. wasted his own potential but he got paid atleast
@casperryborg4869
@casperryborg4869 3 жыл бұрын
What the hell are you talking about dude? Empathy is something you have for people who have experinced something tragic, not someone who is living their dream. He is literally being paid to do what he loves.
@asdasfasfasf9919
@asdasfasfasf9919 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine he spent those six million in 2015. Even if you discount the 6 million with a 3% per annum interest rate. He could have bought the whole korean server. (jk but sorta)
@Cattinuum
@Cattinuum 3 жыл бұрын
Thorin's work is more impressive than Elon Musk's fr.
@Akashitb
@Akashitb 3 жыл бұрын
not a fun of you thorin but you re spot on here ..... its sad but very very true .
@FloridaHockeyFan
@FloridaHockeyFan 3 жыл бұрын
I do believe EU is better than NA. However are we going to ignore the massive gains both regions have made against korea and lpl?
@nocivolive
@nocivolive 3 жыл бұрын
TSM were first in everything so many times that alowed them to be the best in NA but after TL and C9 got money they never done shit and didn't develop a proper coach team. they only had joke coach that had less experience or less power than players.
@jackphillips6742
@jackphillips6742 3 жыл бұрын
Thorin recommending me a source of caffine has made me better at everything Except league
@Casoul
@Casoul 3 жыл бұрын
10:50 sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesh
@Semaaimes
@Semaaimes 3 жыл бұрын
TSM living rent free in Thorins mind since S4 lmao
@MrJeppe313
@MrJeppe313 3 жыл бұрын
10:43 lmao
@candygender
@candygender 3 жыл бұрын
By the time they become residents they are already cans
@NandoTecua
@NandoTecua 3 жыл бұрын
TSM is the sick man of the LCS
@alechintzke7395
@alechintzke7395 3 жыл бұрын
Reginald* is the sick man of the LCS
@asdasfasfasf9919
@asdasfasfasf9919 3 жыл бұрын
If Regi really had wanted to win worlds like he pretended, he would have gotten a top Chinese jungler, kept Doublelift and either gotten a top chinese/korean support or toplaner. I mean you gotta be real and I do not thi9nk regi is that stupid. Maybe he lied to himself. Talking 2015 before he replaced doublelift for sven.
@TheUnderJaker
@TheUnderJaker 3 жыл бұрын
TSM will never be good enough for international play until Regi leaves. He destroys talent. They are bad at developing it too. And they are bad at using talent. Regi is just a really bad owner and has his coaches, coach like it’s season 3
@Xavyer13
@Xavyer13 3 жыл бұрын
I absolutely loved the wardrobe for this one 😍
@jayweezy3264
@jayweezy3264 3 жыл бұрын
thorin can you do a. video on 3drambo the old 3d, noa and sk please so these kids know where it all started
@alexanderschwarz242
@alexanderschwarz242 3 жыл бұрын
Tsm had the 2 best non import players for 1 and a half years with super good imports you clould have the 4 best lcs players in one team.
@Alex-ms8mb
@Alex-ms8mb 3 жыл бұрын
how are there still TSM fans lol.
@casperryborg4869
@casperryborg4869 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe they appreciate the team for something other than their medals. It isn't every fan that jumps ship as soon as something goes wrong, like you most likely do.
@loxi9
@loxi9 3 жыл бұрын
Lmao so in 2015 tsm couldve had 4 imports total thats crazy
@ArekesuLive
@ArekesuLive 3 жыл бұрын
Looking back it feels shocking that TSM did not exploit that, but honestly at the time EU players were not rated that much higher then NA ones, except for Mid Laners. TSM came back from worlds 2014, apparently, doing very well in scrims vs international competition, and then went on to win that IEM tournament in early 2015. Yes, they fell apart at MSI and they stuck with Dyrus through worlds even though everyone knew he was done. Then the 2016 lineup, Biofrost actually tried out versus import support players and DL decided to go with him over the imports at the time and 2016 TSM was very good. 2017 they decided to run it back with the 2016 lineup. So most of the splits that they didn't "abuse" the loophole, they had a reason not to.
@Pseudologion
@Pseudologion 3 жыл бұрын
Thorin in the C9 jersey lol
@maurice6908
@maurice6908 3 жыл бұрын
@Thorin even if TSM used their advantage and got these insane rosters I'm afraid the talent would be suppressed after 1-2 splits max. TSM used to be super efficient at turning their players, esp junglers into wards.
@Fortune02
@Fortune02 3 жыл бұрын
Banger.
@ojasdighe991
@ojasdighe991 3 жыл бұрын
Faze top 1 again you were right thorin
@jaimiecarels5863
@jaimiecarels5863 3 жыл бұрын
lol this guy is so incredibly salty
@anthonymunson5842
@anthonymunson5842 3 жыл бұрын
Thorins adds are the only ones that never annoy me. They crack me up.
@therealkinghimself
@therealkinghimself 3 жыл бұрын
like the tsm beef, havent watch the vid but I know for sure it is full beef. Thorin is such a beefy man
@maurice6908
@maurice6908 3 жыл бұрын
Just watch it dude. 100% worth it
@jxhunger
@jxhunger 3 жыл бұрын
TSM hc fans can say whatever the F they want about Thorin (old school fan here, not that into lcs atm tho), but i seriously love these kind of videos! Wp sir.
@EpicVideoMaster11
@EpicVideoMaster11 3 жыл бұрын
Truee
@MrCFBad
@MrCFBad 3 жыл бұрын
That’s cute, Jensen has been waiting so long for bjerg to retire so he can start saying he’s the best mid laner in lcs lol
@Itsfinii
@Itsfinii 3 жыл бұрын
I see the content is running dry lately
@sk.8322
@sk.8322 3 жыл бұрын
the heating bill is due Thorin?
@seancoco
@seancoco 3 жыл бұрын
Nice
@_ketosucks1355
@_ketosucks1355 3 жыл бұрын
Gold content here
@lucasdiaz8964
@lucasdiaz8964 3 жыл бұрын
Thorin i uderstand you dislike TSM and that fine but please just let them be. Worried about other more important things
@dimitriverwey1610
@dimitriverwey1610 3 жыл бұрын
Me : there no way thooorin will find a way to flame tsm on a Tuesday, right Thooorin: basically yes
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