Thorin's Thoughts - The No Men

[@fafafooey4126]

Loving this almost daily content. Keep it up .

[@karstenberning]

Zack Allen True!

[@MrToco23]

Yeah and not only daily it's pretty good quality as well.

[@thsimpsonsguy]

Brandon Chacon quality and quantity. the perfect combination

[@MasonGoss]

[@w33b1e]

Zack Allen entirely agree.

[@Trixiethegoldenwitch]

As a career youtuber, the beauty of this profession for me was not having to answer to anyone or let them "lock me out" or any of that shit. Over the years, I always wanted to write for some website or magazine, but I never saw anyone writing in my style or with my willingness to consistently lay my thoughts out exactly as they are without concern for formula or for an audience. The beauty of youtube is that I can make things exactly as I want them to be, say exactly what I like, and people can take it or leave it. I'm paid by the people who want to hear what I have to say, not for anything else, and that's the most ideal system I can think of.

[@T3hD4rkKn1ght]

***** Wow, didn't expect to see you here Digi. Respect, man.

[@ValorousFogey]

Thorin, I can't even express how much I agree with you. Once there was a time in my life people (''professionals'') expected me to act like I liked everyone (colleagues) and was interested in their lives, even the bullshitters, even if I didn't like someone or was critical about someone's thinking/doing. I couldn't do it. It's not me. I'm about expressing what I really think and feel, of course to a certain degree, but mostly so.. I did try acting a few times, because it was expected from me, but it was too tiring. I question almost everything in life and I think that's a good trait. What I don't question though, is that more people should question themselves, their behaviours, their 'superiors', the system, etc.. Conservatism and closed mindedness could one day mean the end of the world. We need to be critical and stand up for our our own REAL thoughts and feelings in order to save ourselves and make the world a better place and to inspire others to do so.

[@00HoODBoy]

ValorousFogey agree 110%. i try ,too

[@haradin1337]

ValorousFogey u gotta take some bullshit and 'swallow' some camels every now and then if u want to succeed

[@ValorousFogey]

haradin1337 Success is probably something different for you than for me then. Good luck taking bullshit and swallowing, it's your freedom to do so!

[@davethroop]

You and richard are giant inspirations for everyone who is trying to make it in esports without compromising.

[@xavierxs4]

Watching this I am reminded of a quote "First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out- Because I was not a Socialist. Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out- Because I was not a Trade Unionist. Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out- Because I was not a Jew. Then they came for me-and there was no one left to speak for me." While the topic at hand is nowhere near as drastic, there are some parallels in terms of the results of inaction that can be discussed. While some may not see the importance of speaking out, I am of the opinion that the points in this video make a solid argument in terms of the balance that is brought through the ability to critique and form a coherent opinion, instead of just buying into that of the group. That however, does take courage and among a community of pro dominant teens, it makes sense that "peer pressure" would play a big role in communities such as reddit. This makes me wonder what the future has in store for a community such as this one. I admire tremendously the form that you, Thorin, present your views in an organized and coherent way. This causes your followers to consider perspectives that may be otherwise alien. You have taught me much in the ways of organizing ideas, which in turn has helped me tremendously in terms of analysis. For this I can only express my gratitude.

[@THEnewMyself]

Your best videos seem to be the general ones that don't pertain to any one game. This is probably one of your best "Thorin's Thoughts" ever, top 5 maybe. Props.

[@MisterFleshcage]

I really admire you, Thorin. You're one of the very few people gifted with the ability to speak your thoughts and explain them without filler words like, 'um' or 'uh', and don't need to stop recording/cut to recollect your thoughts.You speak fluidly and eloquently and can argue a point, right or wrong, with the best of 'em.

[@gradeycullins3207]

"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." -Edmund Burke Same for anything else that is inherently bad; if no one is there to speak out against it, what will stop it? Great video.

[@lingvohacker]

One of the most sincere videos I've watched in a long time. And thanks for the inspiration. Props, Duncan. Loving your work.

[@matheus.bueno47]

Best Thorin's Thoughts so far. I'm really impressed. We are very lucky to have people that think for themselves and are able to criticize. Thank you Thooorin and Richard.

[@thegoon6652]

One of the only journalist's within esports (along with Richard) to provide different even controversial aspects of an argument. I value your well educated and informed opinion among the highest in the current scene. Keep it up.

[@abzeromusic]

I make music, and a lot of the principles of what your saying can be applied to the music industry(although the industry is more developed). I want to say thank you for helping me ground myself. I feel like this reinforces my will to be original and different.

[@TheSushiDesu]

Woah dude I have so much more respect for you. I can't imagine living off 10 thousand pounds a year (no matter how much I loved my job) . I love your content and keep it up man :) Me and my friends here in New Zealand love you~

[@Griffen04]

Keep it up, Thorin. Forget the haters. Your content is original, well thought out, cohesive, and objective. I look forward to watching and check every day for new content from you.

[@DW7139]

One of my favorite thorins thoughts. The concepts he talks about apply just as much to other industries and life as they do to esports.

[@LazloTaylor]

I loved this one... Thorin keep being yourself & voicing your opinions. The world needs more people like you.

[@KaisN]

I went to go look up where "Drinking the Kool aid" came from after this video. Goddamn.

[@rude7959]

K Zen Magic about watching Thooorin's videos. You're always learning.

[@s1Lence_au]

Rude It isn't magic, we come here for that very reason.

[@rude7959]

xModernRanger By magic, I meant reason to watch. On top of learning, you reflect about shit in ways you probably didn't before.

[@memebobs9011]

K Zen I thought that came from that guys cult where he made people drink kool aid with cyanide

[@shmurr01]

Steve Jobs Indeed.

[@bernkbestgirl]

I think it's just a sign that esports is in its infancy, there's not much money in it so people are afraid of their careers ending. It's like the socially awkward fellow that tries too hard on a date: he has so few dates that he is overly-invested and acts phony in any one date.

[@JordanYee]

PiggiesGoMoo This. So much. The industry is still really young. Everyone knows everyone. Professionalism is still something a lot of these people are experiencing for the first time. It's growing pains. And it's never gonna grow out of that without people being free to criticize.

[@Niwlitz]

Jordan Yee people are free to criticize, but the ones who are putting the money in don't want "no-men" to fuck up their profit and that's why you need to go on youtube and watch Thooorin if you want criticizm. I, for one, don't watch faceitleague twitch to educate myself, I watch it to have a good time. I watch Thooorin to get the "no-men" point of view and in time both combined will lead to me having my own opinion. Of course the fact that esports is still burgeoning is contributing to the "yes-men"-attitude, but it will, on the big stages, always be more of a "yes-men"-vibe.. yes is fun, no is exhausting.

[@priestvallon7382]

If only mainstream journalism could be this delightful.

[@delatroy]

A pleasure as always thorin. I'd consider myself very much a no man for having too much integrity to not stand up for what's right no matter what. Sacred space, being labelled as negative as a means to dismiss, very well put.

[@musica-mk6bl]

Thorin, thank you, realy thank you. All of your content has something that no one has and that's atitude. every video you upload it convinces me more that you are someone whos opinion acctualy means something and its not pure bullshit (sry for the bad english)

[@krillinpt2076]

I never comment but I absolutely have to say that this kind of topics that also reflect in everyone's life (referring to the political and moral side of the video) are very interesting and amusing to watch and reflect. Thank you for them

[@JoshuaKevinPerry]

You and richard should start a series of yelling at each other a la ESPN's horrifying embrace debate format.

[@DaneOrie]

I very much enjoy your videos and analysis! In addition to posting these videos to KZbin, you should consider (if you have not already) exporting these videos as a podcasts. More mediums for consumption!

[@kobito789]

Thank you for your opinions Thooorin. Even when or especially when I disagree I am glad for the chance to consider my positions.

[@inertlife]

Thorin I first saw you commentating during a game and noticed people hating on you in the Twitch chat. I didn't know who you were or what the deal was so I started listening to you more closely to see if I disagreed with your views or opinions as well. After hearing you speak at the event I knew you weren't bullshitting and walking on eggshells as the other casters seem to do. Telling it how it is seems to be uncommon when most people are so worried about how they are perceived or how much they may offend someone. Now after watching this video I can honestly say I have a lot of respect for you man. Keep up the good work.

[@linusheterlinus]

A man on your own path Thorin, i really respect that. You stick to your morals even though it hurts you financially, there are few people willing to do that. Keep doing your thing, we have enogh yes-mens already

[@asianpride42]

I think i would actually get withdrawal if you ever stopped doing videos Thorin lol. Just love your insight on certain subjects.

[@rando_khan]

I'm a big fan of your content. I don't always agree with your opinions, but it's good that you're willing to be contrary to other interests or strong influences in the community. There's a lot of bullshit out there, and everyone deserves to be called on it.

[@rebornthanos]

Thooorin I would like to thank you for the videos you make I've watched all of your league videos and even some of the csgo videos even though i don't follow the pro scene and i follow you and monte on insight as well your brutal honesty makes these types of videos so much easier to watch and I hope you don't plan on stopping making videos anytime soon.. also the things you post on twitter are farely interesting as well

[@jessewoodman1496]

this is a great video, not just relating to esports but in all forms of life! *subbed* Keep bangin out the content thorin!

[@VileLasagna]

Well, this was most definitely "a Thooorin video". Very inspiring and I know very well how it is being made the villain for confronting the absurd. Funny, guess I needed to hear all this today. Keep doing the Thooorin thing, mate

[@ShiftEnigma]

Dude I was waiting for that smooth transition to the vulcan plug. Good video, really enjoy the uhh anime like relationship between you and richard gg.

[@SuperSaiyanCj]

''You can't condescend to the working class'' Tell erm brother!!! Grew up in towerblocks in east london and i'll be damned if someone who hasn't earned my respect talks down to me. Subscribed ;)

[@ItsFinigan]

Cheers to my fellow no men/women! Good job using Esports as an example for understanding this widespread problem. Think critically, my friends!

[@jasonleeroberts]

I hated you when I was a "yes man," but with more gathered experience and time in the scene, I'm more of a "no man" now. Loving this content

[@Rupi57]

Very interesting video. I really like how much you and Richard respect each other. I hope you two do more content together in future.

[@FateFreeman]

7:00-8:00 you are the only person that has made these kind of videos, and that is a perfect example because of the intellectual content and the originality

[@TheCatalystvid]

The concept of the bought out "yes men" reminds me of the hives song "a little more for a little you". Awesome content as always thoooorin

[@eucherenkov]

I love you so much Duncan. The kind of person i want around me in life is yours. Would be nice to know someone like you personally.

[@ricardoferreira6525]

Watch some video of yours some random day on a random reddit post. Liked a lot the way you express yourself and kept watching every one of them. Keep it up

[@Saiakaa]

Love these thoughts. Tbh if Thoorin was talkin about barbie dolls and the history of it I could listen to all of it. I could listen to this guy talk about anything.

[@Roblerw]

"A new level of Dictatorship arises yet. Esports, where its community blindly follow the the regime set and anyone with a different opinion is harassed, persecuted and even vanish from certain sectors from those with positions of power."

[@pierce_grossman]

Well, Thoorin, I assume you like Dr House :) To be honest I'm not really into content not related to league but the actual topic is very, very interesting. Big props, no one really brings up this kind of stuff.

[@jareddalessandro9813]

Very good points. Especially about how the "no men" are just viewed as negative for disagreeing with the bs.

[@jamiefitzpatrick3377]

Very well said, keep up the content. Also please send your Pistol Problem video to Gaben, thanks.

[@DQuest99]

Beautiful video as always! Now let's see your perspective on NA cs, that should be a fun one :)

[@SoulsNThings]

This video is so on point. Thorin keep doing what you're doing.

[@adamirfan789]

Is that Mrs Doubtfire :^)

[@adamlen85]

Keep being a Bad Guy Thorin! The truth will set us all free

[@AgiDaKinG]

Thorin, officially a journalist, aka 'word surgeon'

[@brycechapman8017]

Throughout the intro all I could think of was CLG.

[@Soliy87]

Quick Make 5 copies of this before its removed from reddit and plus the way Reggie ripped into Monte and summoned the TSM army was pretty low

[@eiatos]

Solidus327 Is this a recent thing or are you referring to their "squabbles" from a while ago?

[@Soliy87]

Fartickles i think this was the last squabble they had when Monte was booted from clg there has always been an enmity between them anyway from what i've seen

[@eiatos]

Oh, I thought I missed a new drama thanks for clarifying

[@Owbane]

When he said Who are some good guys in the industry ? pause ... I fully expected Travis. perfect fit for everything thorin outlined.

[@xSwitchB1ade]

Owbe Travis tries sometimes. He started the spectate faker thing well, really trying to be a "no man" and succeeding for a while. He did end up being a mouthpiece for riot on it in the end though.

[@czowieksonce5777]

ok second half was INSANE so good keep it on thooorin this whole talk about "nice guys" made me literrally angry and annoyed at them thorin its funny but since so many young people are into league you are slowly becoming kind of prophet. a model for teenage guys like me. just wanted you to know it

[@MallowSquisher]

Another great video, on a topic rarely talked about. Gj keep up the great work

[@ramz1937]

Love your videos thooorin :D , do you think you could so a vid about the Rekkles situation, seems very interesting.

[@MastaGwee]

your like a step down christopher hitchens of esports. thats a compliment m8 you are the best.

[@chrisw7347]

At the end of every LCS weekend or major international tournament, I'm glad Rivington and Quikshot are casters, because otherwise I probably would not have a reason to use the word 'sycophant'.

[@leroy_sopacua]

Why aren't you making a item with Richard? It would be great to see. We will then see both of you on common grounds instead of being the interviewer or whatsoever. Or one of you on Summoner's Insight/First Blood as guest would be interesting too.

[@lesbles007]

Thorin would be right at home in a courtroom. Homie can agrue a point yo! #Jim Sterling, AngryJoe and Totalbiscuit - Keep bringing us the Truth

[@xXZian6Xx]

I'll be honest with you Thorin, I hated you at first for the insults and harassment you did. After seeing this, I'm starting to rethink my thoughts. You did that to gain attention. I know you want to become popular and successful, you had really tough times and you stood there fighting for success. I find this determination of yours incredible. Subscribed and will be a daily viewer

[@lesbles007]

I would love to see Thorin, Totalbiscuit and jim Sterling doing a podcast together on current affair.

[@Talglys1503]

If you can't kill the message, kill the messanger Love the work, keep it up!

[@ExiledKid]

Unfortunately, when things start to get big or are proven to be profitable, there becomes a substantial percentage of content producing population who's only goal is to take advantage of maximum gains and furthermore only creates a stronger foundation for "generic" material and the mentality of "what the people want". A great example of this is taken from the mouth of the author who wrote "The Notebook". The book was and may possibly be one of the greatest successes of modern literature in terms of sales and the writer admitted that the only thing they did was follow a formula. Only writing what was understood to be what most people wanted.

[@DadsDikkelsen]

Keep up the good work! Love all "journalism" don't you worry sir! ;)

[@SolMrBadGuy]

Very well said Thorin i hope i can talk to you one day.

[@kruegi191]

love your content keep it up man always fun listening to u

[@deanzOOO]

Did you get sunburn with sunglasses on? Good video

[@SuperSaiyanCj]

''A speaker of truth has no friends''

[@stasyszy]

cg1351 until they find another such one, in which they share common ground... the thing between your ears use it before commenting lol

[@stasyszy]

just assuming things about me doesnt make it so, so sensitive people these days with their keyboard warrior skills.

[@stasyszy]

could of just said "its an old African proverb". Saves the wall of text, still makes me look like what you described in it...hehe

[@stasyszy]

i accept the truth, i misunderstood the first comment, made my response based on that. So you can re-arrange my face, as i can yours, i have photo shop too!

[@SuperSaiyanCj]

stasyszy So why not just be the bigger man and accept your fault and move on? :S

[@notinuse5239]

Would it be possible to do a video on Niko on mouz? I'm interested in seeing his past, I know he is young but I have heard amazing things.

[@kingofwii]

I agree, I thought it was so fucking weird that noone said a thing when Regi just made up things about how bad Monte was. I think he made it to create drama, but everyone just believed him which is very weird to me. And then even players in CLG said like, Monte was not a super good coach etc. Like, are you for real, guys? Respect to you, Thorin. Good vid.

[@jduvel]

Thorin, the McNulty of e-sports (and Richard is The Bunk?)

[@BroadSword398]

Never change Thooorin.

[@shoopdawhoop8730]

I would love to see a video about the overwatch tool and how to catch cheaters in general. I bet you got an opinion on it or even good ideas. Cheating has always been the biggest problem for cs and atleast i think that the overwatch tool could be the right way to go to catch cheaters early enough so they are not getting "good" at it.

[@markhill4419]

This happen so much in politics and other areas in life its not even funny the so call politically correct yes men , really like this vid

[@enix492]

After shaving his epic manly beard Thorin looks like a methhead.

[@fp7276]

Richard, response video please

[@simargl2454]

i had some melodic metal in the background, it sounded epic!!!!

[@monsierpontlefly6149]

Great video, love how you bring life topics in, you're like the Jesus of e-sports, bringing in the word of truth. Just don't get crucified ey.

[@trtnec]

Giving them what they "need" is sort of right, but that motto applies more to news organizations I think. In America, cable news is such utter trash now because it's doing precisely what you say, giving people what they "want" to hear and not what they "need" to hear.

[@HunkeyDunk]

I'm going to show this video to anyone who hasnt heard of you or if they think negatively of you :>

[@achegal90]

hey thorin, enjoying your content as always i have noticed you using the term "cognitive dissonance" a lot. now i am not a native english speaker, but i feel you are taking it out of context. in my psychology studies, i learned that the meaning of the term is, when a person does something that does not align with their own self image, or the view that they have of themselves, and therefore experience a feeling of uncomfort, or aversion. now as i said, im from germany and i dont know if the term has different uses in commen speech, or if i simply didnt fully grasp the context in which you used it. Am i wrong about this?

[@depfro]

I can't wait for the NA video! Please gib :3.

[@Jensekoi]

One thing that I regret when it comes to talented esports contributor like you or Richard Lewis, is that you seem to struggle with deciding if you want to be a journalist or a personnality. Both are fine, but this choice matters because expectations are different for each role: humble (so you don't overshadow your own story) and professionnal -or- provocative and famous. However whatever you do, please avoid mixing work and personnal feelings. This also will help our industry.

[@dengelbertsen6500]

Sounds like Duncan has read his Sartre. The existence precedes essence, amiright?

[@yosayoran1]

In light of this, what do you think of the lewis ban on the sbreddit?

[@bfbpc]

Really enjoyed the video, intresting opinions good sir!

[@pupu6oi74]

very good and personal video. thank you

[@Exigentable]

i'll have you know I just graduated with a bachelors in plumbing science.

[@severus9257]

Fck me Thoorin. I enjoy your topics about life so damn much. You are reminding me of Hitchens, S. Harris, R. Dawkins etc. Keep it up mate!

[@disengen]

Interesting vid. I thought you would have mentioned Snowden at some point, he's the ultimate "no man"

[@EvsEntps]

Thorin, your videos don't have an intro sequence, you are not a proper KZbinr!!11

[@Tarziii1]

Regi didnt say shit up until CLG failed, so he's also the "yes man"

[@prawtism]

Can somebody explain why this playlist is called dota2? :D

[@justApplay]

You forgot to put your beard to record this video.

[@neo120590]

What's the context for some of your thoughts here? (in reference to the illegal things)

[@Danolsen93]

Background and age means a lot on how you look on people and how you deal with people you disagree with, I'm affraid. People should respect opinions and then ask them selves if they agree or not, and if they don't move the fuck on.

[@svenschukat2958]

Thank you for this pice of work.

[@jonathannaranjo6067]

NA CSGO vid coming soon?