THOR LOVE AND THUNDER MOVIE REVIEW | Double Toasted

[@TYMMSTER]

Infinity War was a great balance for Thor, he was funny in one scene, but could bring emotional weight in the next.

[@isuriadireja91]

in total agreement.

[@poposterous236]

I'd argue his peak was the scene between him and his mom in Endgame, equally funny and emotional.

[@TYMMSTER]

@@poposterous236 I kind of have Infinity War and Endgame together in my head. The scene with his Mom is good. A lot of hero’s have lost much, but it’s hard pressed to find a MCU hero who has lost as much as Thor has. Family, friends, teammates, his planet and more…the man has lost almost everything.

[@rashadwalker8218]

And when it was time to get serious and be a badazz he was

[@theprowler18]

And in the new one, they somehow regressed his character back to his Thor 1 days of being egotistical and careless with collateral damage. Just thinking about the incredible work done in those films for Thor just amplifies how messy and inconsistent Love & Thunder really is. Didn't hate it, but it was certainly wildly messy and ultimately inconsequential to the MCU overall, being very self contained and oddly rushed with the multitudes of plotlines it goes through and resolves.

[@maley2552]

I do agree with Korey on it being funny when the Axe is looking at Thor like "The fuck you doing?" When he's starting at the hammer.

[@ameliacraiig4193]

Christian Bale has revealed that some substantial scenes of his were cut from the movie, including scenes with Peter Dinklage, Lena Headey & Jeff Goldblum. I think that would have compromised Gorr The God Butcher's overall storyline. Is it the director who makes the final edit? What a waste of a stellar actor like Bale!

[@tysondennis1016]

We should have a extended cut of Thor 4 where we get more of Gorr’s past, and him killing the Grandmaster!

[@chasehedges6775]

@@tysondennis1016 💯💯💯💯

[@cmike123]

Feige has final say if I'm not mistaken.

[@ShellsGhost1]

I thought when it comes to the pacing he was handled very well. He really sells the few scenes that he's in. I liked it better than Ragnarok

[@consciousgentile5141]

@@tysondennis1016 you are sick in the head. Grandmaster is invaluable

[@Omar-wq9dz]

I'm in the minority where I didn't love Ragnarok. I didn't dislike it, but I didn't see what the big deal was, so I'm interested in seeing how Love and Thunder will turn out, but the mixed reception is making me wonder how I will feel about it when it's over

[@chasehedges6775]

Same👍

[@IrvingTransplant]

If you didn't love Ragnarok I'll be SHOCKED if you like this. Feels like they doubled down on the "Ragnarok of it all".

[@J-leaf]

already watched the movie.....not going to spoil it though but the thing I will say.....The movie is kinda like Ragnarok but a more polished version

[@gcolbyp]

Same! I liked Ragnarok, but I don’t think it’s one of the best MCU movies like others do. And when people say it had the right balance of humor and serious moments, I actually felt the opposite, to where yeah the serious stuff is there and it is a dark story, but as hilarious as the movie, it lean a little too far into the comedy for me to where it did undercut some emotional moments that were needed.

[@CrowTRobot]

If your problem with Ragnorok was the style of comedy, you won’t like this very much. If you’re in the mood for a Taika Waititi surreal comedy, you’ll have a good time.

[@Cognizant1]

I was worried about the fast-track of Jane becoming Thor right up until they showed Thor enchanting Mjolnir to protect her. It was literally the perfect explanation to why Mjolnir called to her, specifically.

[@tapset]

Literally

[@DreeZakaJedi]

Yeah. I caught that

[@versewonderstrikes5353]

In the scenes were they were arguing Mjolnir was closer to Jane.

[@budgiecat9039]

Would like to know how Steve was able to use it then. Like when did Thor make that enchantment spell?

[@rayr3724]

@@budgiecat9039 Think of it this way. Steve was able to lift it because he was worthy based on Odin’s original enchantment: a selfless warrior and protector. Jane was able to wield it because Thor added some fine print for Jane to be protected.

[@vexmyth0clast]

He really said “it’s like his ass cheeks have biceps” that shit had me in tears lmao 😂

[@Omar-wq9dz]

Interesting how Thor became popular when he became more lighthearted in Ragnarok, since the first 2 movies tried following his seriousness from the comics

[@chasehedges6775]

Even Chris Hemsworth said that, before making Ragnarok, the role of Thor was feeling boring to play

[@takeomasaki260]

yea we the fans love this new thor and taika's vision for the character.

[@rhashadcarter2051]

@@chasehedges6775 it’s only boring if you write it as such. characters like batman and kratos are serious but do not lack interesting traits

[@chasehedges6775]

@@rhashadcarter2051 _“A character is only as good/interesting as the person writing them.”_ - Critical Drinker

[@peacechild482]

@@takeomasaki260 it’s a trash version

[@johnsnow1749]

I'm surprised by Korey's score. I agree 100% on Gorr being missed potential but so much of the movie's narrative wasn't about him. So Gorr's under development didn't distract from the main character arcs as much as it could have.

[@samuelstephens6904]

I think that’s the problem though. Gorr is such a strong concept as a villain, but none of the other elements in the movie compliment him. There’s is basically no relationship between him and the other characters. He doesn’t really challenge Thor in any thematic way. He is not a foil. He is only after Thor to get the axe. At least with _Multiverse of Madness_ Dr. Strange and Wanda have thematically related personal hang-ups and it all ties into the the multiverse gimmick. Korey is right when he said this movie is too loose.

[@budgiecat9039]

Typical Marvel movie villain problems. Only Thanos was able to avoid that.

[@dariendarkhouse8538]

Then they completely wasted Gorr. He's supposed to be a god-ending threat. He terrified the past, present, and future Thors. King Thor literally begged for death in the comics. If he's not given Thanos level respect, don't use him. Nick Fury turned Thor unworthy by just saying "Gorr was right."

[@michaelsinger4638]

This was a very mixed bag of a film. I really like what they did with Jane. Christian Bale was quite good if underused. The visuals were great. Etc. But they REALLY struggled to balance the goofy humor, too goofy at times imo, with some genuinely emotional and dark stuff. And the film was kind of all over the place in general.

[@probium2832]

My opinion is that this one is a *Rental*, I am so sorry to give them this

[@andrewelphick2304]

Me too. For the first time there was real chemistry between Thor and Jane. Christian Bale was great. The final eternity scene was very emotional. Thor however was clownish throughout the film and much of the humour felt off. For me, the jokes didn’t seem to come from the characters or the situation but from the actors. A misfire.

[@heavyweaponsguy9000]

yeah the floating head was some great visuals

[@cmike123]

That's one of the highlights of the What If series for me. Frat boy Thor hanging out with frat boy Loki. It was priceless.

[@ccayco]

Thor's outfit before he he puts on his blue armor is amazing. Sucks we only got it for like 5minutes.

[@bensneb360]

I’m disappointed hear Gorr is underutilized, I felt the same way about Hela in Ragnarok, I was hoping they would fixed that… I hope the rest of the movie is funny and enjoyable

[@kanon1118]

i hear he's underutilized but is well used and has a great performance. so its a good compromise

[@chasehedges6775]

@@kanon1118 How can you go wrong with Christian Bale? He’s amazing

[@CrowTRobot]

@@chasehedges6775 by not giving him more screen time 😂

[@danwilliams1989]

Sounds like the typical Marvel movie villain problem to me

[@teppeiando]

I thought Hela had good moments to shine

[@JustinZarian]

Shame to hear how mixed this movie’s reception is. Phase 4 of Marvel is proving to be pretty underwhelming with a few exceptions

[@chasehedges6775]

Indeed. Loki and MoonKnight were enjoyable but that’s about it.

[@chasehedges6775]

@UCC1Tt2oRnRgXGcHiYE-ug8Q There’s also Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul

[@tobiaslawrence8928]

To many reshoots in my opinion, also some dodgy CGI in some scenes but for me personally I'm enjoying the ride.

[@Omar-wq9dz]

No Way Home has been Phase 4's main highlight

[@strawboyhawkins3]

@@chasehedges6775 moon knight is enjoyable if you ignore source material

[@ajiththomas2465]

From what I've heard from other reviews (particularly Jeremy Jahns' review), a trend that I've seen that leads to Thor 4 (while still enjoyable) not clicking with people as much stem from _Thor: Love and Thunder_ having TOO much jokes, to the point where it detracts from the film? That was always a lingering issue I had with _Thor: Ragnarok_ , where I liked the humor but it's excessive focus on the humor clashed with the dramatic tone it was trying to convey the other half of the time. Often times, it felt like you were watching two different movies that were mashed together. You had the gravitas of Odin's death and Hela conquering Asgard be undercut by all the jokes that Thor would make that undercut that gravitas. I think that similar to that, in Thor 4, the issue seems to be rather than Thor simply making jokes, it feels like he becomes the joke? That it feels like people are laughing at him rather than with him? That if Taiki Watiti (an immensely talented director whose usually really great at balancing tones of comedy and drama, as shown in _Jojo Rabbit_ ) was really going to commit to the humorous tone, that they should have the antagonists and stakes match that rather than feel like Thor and the main antagonists are from 2 different movies? Do you get what I mean? Does that describe the sort of disconnect that some critics justifiably feel with Thor 4?

[@ameliacraiig4193]

Yeah, agree. I wonder if it will still reach $1 bllion at the box office though. Dr Strange 2 has exceeded $900 million, so I wouldn't be surprised.🙁

[@lexis4490]

Or just check it out yourself and review the movie.

[@tparm]

You summed it up here.

[@Smokey1419]

Is it weird i found it ok for Ragnarok, but not ok for Guardians 2?

[@superninjapirate19]

I personally get the feeling that Watiti hates superhero films and is just making it one big joke. I don’t think he cares, there doesn’t seem to be much effort there.

[@rui5421]

While I get the desire for more from Gorr, I think it was strategic to limit his conflict to only the things that mattered to Thor. This wasn’t about making Gorr a monster out massacring the innocent. Otherwise it would have made the ending far less palatable. The point was to strengthen his position by using thors perspective to show how the gods had become arrogant and lacking of redemption. Spoilers: In the end thor doesn’t disagree with Gorr’s feelings about the gods. If anything it takes thors add gives it completion. The arrogant god, Thor, waiting to be king, renounces his thrown, loses everyone he cares for, and renounces his place as a god…recovers from his fear of love and commitment and finds a new family in the child of someone the gods had betrayed. It’s stretched at some points but it’s a beautiful progression for him. Watching the first Thor movie again, thor at the beginning is everything he hated about Zeus.

[@ihavenocommonsensebut2008]

When does he renounce his self as a god? Also Thor was nothing like Zeus. The only similarity is that they didn’t care much for the lives of others but they were completely different people with different motives and morals

[@VickStarkiller]

Seems like Thor is suffering from the same problem with the 90s Batman movies. Ppl thought the movies were too dark and serious, so they went lighthearted and ppl loved it, so the studio believes that the masses must want more funny and lighthearted and now they’re going too far with it.

[@CaptainBadNews]

A part that made me laugh really hard was during the "flick!" scene. Behind all the girls that fainted you notice that even the elite guards of the Gods flanking Zues were wobbly lol. They didn't fall down but their knees buckled and you could see them supporting their weight on their spears struggling to get their feet back.

[@frederickmiles8815]

My fear is the director will end up like the Wonder Woman director and going off the reservation, getting lost in his own gimmick - without solid writing or plot. I dont think this will be as bad as WW1984 but my bar isnt all that high.

[@Labcabin96]

It's worse thand wonder woman 84 believe me

[@frederickmiles8815]

@@Labcabin96 that was my fear honestly - without structure, plot, theme discipline, etc it would just be a serious of gags strung together with special effects. I also heard rumors that the director handed in a cut that was over 3 hours and the studio slashed it down to the bone (for better and worse).

[@biguy617]

I was disappointed that Sif was barely in the movie. She finally returns only to be in the movie for couple of minutes.

[@kicknowledgesmith8608]

Yup and they made a joke out of her

[@PKMNmasterJuice]

@@kicknowledgesmith8608 agreed. What a waste of Jamie Alexander.

[@kicknowledgesmith8608]

@@PKMNmasterJuice They probably would have killed her off in Ragnarok if she was available. she was busy with filming Blindspot tv show

[@Montesama314]

She lost a freaking arm. They could have tied her and her arm loss more into the theme of the movie about moving on from loss and finding something new. (Also, it kinda feels like she should have a magical metal arm like comics Thor.)

[@biguy617]

@@Montesama314 her character lost the arm not Jamie.

[@thediscracedone4932]

I'm with Martin. I don't feel like the movie really missed in as many ways as korey does. I think Gorr is tragic & scary, and they basically did the god bomb thing without really doing it, while also expanding the cosmic hierarchy introduced in eternals & moonknight. Jane was also very well done & Thor's arc was super interesting to me. I even think they gave him a great avenue to be goofy & comforting while still being a leader with the kids. Trying not to say too much but the high full price is spot on to me.

[@TheSneakysneaks]

This review made me realize that Russell Crowe would make a great Agamemnon.

[@gimmibox]

Not just Gorr, I feel like Jane's struggle wasn't explored enough as well. I think overall my rating is closer to Korey's

[@maineman5757]

This movie would have to be way longer if they want us to really care about Jane. Her character was already forgettable in the first place

[@exodore2000]

Yea watched it last night and I'm with him on it as well except he liked the goats more than I did.

[@Omar-wq9dz]

With this movie underwhelming some people, we now have to wait and see how Black Panther 2 will turn out, especially since Chadwick Boseman's not in it

[@Twelve30Radical]

It’ll flop at the studios doing… I said this after the 1st one was so successful…

[@Planag7]

I have no faith. Boseman was the key c:

[@RodrequezRobinson2001]

@@Twelve30Radical Hey bruh don't ve disrespecting my nigga Chadwick Boseman like that, because Black Panther 2 is not gonna flop u tripping my nigga on god

[@michaelstrong5383]

Out of all the upcoming MCU movies, Black Panther 2 is one that I'm cautiously curious on. Considering how mixed Phase 4 has been, it's a major coin toss on whether it'll be decent or really bad.

[@KageVII]

The thing with me is T'Challa felt like a side character in his own film. He didn't get nearly half the attention that other MCU characters get in their own films. Heck, Civil War did a better representation of the character than his own film did.

[@BeerAndFries]

I never liked how Thor became a literal idiot, I liked the Shakespearian approach they tried in Dark World, even if the movie itself was not good. The problem with idiot Thor is that you can't really do much with such a character. If he is not taking anything, especially not himself, seriously, then why would I care about him?

[@mew10521]

Exactly

[@nogamedominic1768]

Facts

[@RodrequezRobinson2001]

But when they did that yall was calling it boring.Yall love saying that but as soon as Marvel makes him too serious then yall gonna get mad and call him boring and dry talking about Marvel made Thor lame. Now that they gave him a personality now yall saying it's too much comedy, I swear there is no pleasing yall 😂

[@Labcabin96]

He's an even bigger idiot in this movie than he was in Ragnarok and end game.

[@SolidSnake240]

@@RodrequezRobinson2001 boring doesn't mean turn him into an actual idiot. This defense is horrible

[@MrBlondyking]

Was it just me, or was Gorr more like an atheist-Voldemort? The facial emotes early in didn't help but he got a lot more distinct as it went along.

[@KickedBackL]

I like how this movie is about relationships more than anything else. Superhero movies rarely ever do romance well, so it was refreshing for me personally to see a whole movie about love. The comedy also landed 90% of the time for me, that’s a big plus for me since I usually don’t like mcu humor but this movie was just goofy af and wholesome. Had some interesting visuals too, loved the black and white scenes a lot. I think this might be one of my favorite mcu movies no cap

[@CLDJ227]

"Superhero movies rarely do romance well". Is it really rare? People seem to enjoy Tony and Pepper, and Peter and MJ. Then you have classic ones like Superman and Lois in Superman the movie, or Peter and Mary Jane in the original Spiderman films.

[@BratzRockAngels]

@@CLDJ227 I think they mean having love be apart of the main focus and not a side piece of the story. The main point of the movie was about love and grief.

[@CLDJ227]

@@BratzRockAngels Cool, thanks for clarifying.

[@allanbroady2970]

It did what WW84 failed to do as far as the relationship

[@ihavenocommonsensebut2008]

@@BratzRockAngels isn’t that what Guardians of the Galaxy is essentially about?

[@thedefinitionisthis]

While Phase 4 may not be "popping" like it should be, I don't necessarily believe they're not working towards something. I just think that there are so many more moving pieces now, than there were in the previous "set-up" phases, that the endgame either isn't clear or obvious, the way the hints to Avengers & Thanos were in the previous 3 phases. It really does feel like they're still introducing the new pieces and the new status-quo's. It's a juggling act because they're introducing new characters, *while* pushing forward with new situations for the established characters/formerly supporting Avengers. And yeah, after the high's of Phase 3 and the one-two punch of "Infinity War" and "Endgame", it's tough to go back to these movies that have relatively lower stakes; that really was the feeling of the first 2 phases, particularly after the first "Avengers". While that movie teased Thanos, "Iron Man 3", "Thor The Dark World" and "Captain America: The Winter Soldier" didn't necessarily move the needle of getting us "closer to Thanos". Big difference though is that in the 2008 to 2012 era, we knew that we were working towards "Avengers", and everything after, we're building to Thanos; now, we're just getting the pieces and it's all really speculation as to where the story is going to lead to, and how the individual characters are gonna play into everything. And with MCU content dropping every month to two months on D+ & on the big-screen, I definitely understand the fatigue. Doesn't help that with each series/movies, it feels like a lateral move, rather than a raising of the stakes. On the other hand though, this is what comic-book storytelling is: moving pieces across different titles and characters. So as a comic-reader, it is cool to see that sensibility brought on-screen. However, I totally understand the frustration and fatigue for wanting that endgame story *now* ; and yes, things are tougher when some of the individual stories aren't particularly strong or have a lot of urgency to them. Definitely bummed to see more mixed reactions to recent MCU efforts (though I am enjoying everything to differing degrees). Can't have a winning streak that long I guess. Still looking forward to "Love & Thunder", but expectations definitely lowered a bit.

[@bearerofbadnews1375]

Phase 4 at best feels like there’s a “changing of the guards” phase with a bunch of characters going out for the new. At worst it feels kinda directionless at the moment with a good film and tv series here and there.

[@gcolbyp]

The Reel Rejects made a great video talking about the whole road map with Marvel Phase 4 right now that I highly recommend: kzbin.info/www/bejne/q3_FnZ6Zl7aioa8

[@thedefinitionisthis]

@@gcolbyp Oh yeah! I saw that a while back. That was a good video. Sean Chandler put out a good video too about what his worries are about the MCU at this point. Given what Korey & Martin have said both in this review, and in more recent MCU show/movie outings, there definitely is a growing frustration about where the franchise is heading, and it's understandable. But as the Reel Rejects and others have pointed out, it's not as "directionless" as people believe. I think a major issue is that these individual projects are largely just "okay", and not "bangers" that we've supposedly been accustomed to seeing (despite a good number of Phase 1 to 3 treading that quality line as well). But maybe part of that response is the fact that the MCU is covered SO MUCH ground with their formula, the new stuff may feel somewhat stale... or maybe even off-putting even with the ones that actually swing for the fences a bit more. It's just an interesting transitional period for the MCU right now. At least Kevin Feige has openly acknowledged it, saying that things will be revealed (more than subtly) with the next phase, but he definitely is putting a lot of faith in both casual and die-hard fans for sticking around. It really is something when even the die-hards are questioning the direction, but in all honestly, over 10 years of stories, the franchise has earned the benefit of the doubt.

[@gcolbyp]

@@thedefinitionisthis Even then I still say there’s some really good stuff in Phase 4, for every Eternals there’s a No Way Home, for every Black Widow there’s a Shang Chi, for every Hawkeye there’s a Loki, they just need to find their footing, but haven’t lost any interest or excitement yet, I’m still rooting for Marvel.

[@thedefinitionisthis]

@@gcolbyp Same here. Call me a "Marvel Bitch", but even at their worst, the MCU has never really truly "lost" me. It's always like... aiight, let's see where this all goes. I really do approach it like i'm reading comic-book crossovers through individual titles.

[@MrSofly2010]

Just watched it. Martin has lost his critical skills because this movie was atrocious. It was Transformers levels of childish.

[@exostencial]

Couldn’t watch 5 minutes of this.

[@Crunch_Buttsteak]

Martin's been letting me down lately...but it's his opinion

[@Omar-wq9dz]

The next real challenge for Marvel, due to Phase 4 being a mixed bag, will be when Fantastic Four and X-Men show up and see how those movies turn out

[@bearerofbadnews1375]

Hoping the new Fantastic four movie is at least decent is doesn’t even have to be good for me the bar has been dropped so low. Compared to the other garbage Fant4stic movies it shouldn’t be too hard to one up them.

[@blackmcbain3145]

@@bearerofbadnews1375 there has only been one fant four stick movie bad it was sheite! 🤣

[@bearerofbadnews1375]

@@blackmcbain3145 I know, the other Fant4stic movies have been bad so I just refer to them by that name.

[@kbreezy1581]

I'm going to need them to spice things up for FF and x-men. I also need disney to focus on writing smarter stories, rather than just entertaining ones. I do wonder how they will explain the existence of mutants though.

[@ZensanFGC]

A proper Doom would solve a lot of people's issues... They need a meaty villain that doesn't die in his first movie .

[@cwjohnson1356]

He was originally a doctor in the comic book his cane was hammer

[@nikobelwilliams9739]

The reason Phase 4 kinda disappointing is because there's no real drive in this Saga. There's no GOAL, destination, or destiny. There's no real reason why events are transpiring. It's like these movies are being made just because they can.

[@gcolbyp]

I feel like this review basically sums up the reactions I’ve been seeing for the movie so far. I’ve seen some people on Martin’s side who loved it or had a really good time with it and I’ve seen some who are with Korey and Julian that thought it was enjoyable for the most part but were kinda underwhelmed. I’m still excited to see it on Friday for myself and hoping at the very least I like it.

[@chasehedges6775]

Enjoyable for the most part but kinda underwhelmed. The MCU in a nutshell

[@bigpapi3672]

@@chasehedges6775 hey ill take it

[@gcolbyp]

@@chasehedges6775 I mean don’t agree at all as I’ve been mostly liking the Phase 4 stuff, even loving some projects. Plus I go into these movies like any other movie, hoping I at least like it. Film is subjective and I’m not always gonna agree with the majority on a movie. I love Korey and Martin, but there have been times I’ve disagreed with them. I just watch their reviews and hear their thoughts and then go judge for myself.

[@chasehedges6775]

@@gcolbyp That’s fair, honestly

[@ajiththomas2465]

From what I've heard from other reviews (particularly Jeremy Jahns' review), a trend that I've seen that leads to Thor 4 (while still enjoyable) not clicking with people as much stem from _Thor: Love and Thunder_ having TOO much jokes, to the point where it detracts from the film? That was always a lingering issue I had with _Thor: Ragnarok_ , where I liked the humor but it's excessive focus on the humor clashed with the dramatic tone it was trying to convey the other half of the time. Often times, it felt like you were watching two different movies that were mashed together. You had the gravitas of Odin's death and Hela conquering Asgard be undercut by all the jokes that Thor would make that undercut that gravitas. I think that similar to that, in Thor 4, the issue seems to be rather than Thor simply making jokes, it feels like he becomes the joke? That it feels like people are laughing at him rather than with him? That if Taiki Watiti (an immensely talented director whose usually really great at balancing tones of comedy and drama, as shown in _Jojo Rabbit_ ) was really going to commit to the humorous tone, that they should have the antagonists and stakes match that rather than feel like Thor and the main antagonists are from 2 different movies? Do you get what I mean? Does that describe the sort of disconnect that some critics justifiably feel with Thor 4?

[@kryten09]

Saw it last night. Wanted (and thought I would...) to side with Martin. And while it wasn't a "bad" movie, it's the first MCU movie that made me think this on the drive home.... "Marvel Fatigue"

[@tysondennis1016]

We should get the 4-hr cut of Love and Thunder!

[@MrEherndon5]

That hello fresh ad transition was fire lol

[@1984nique]

I laughed so freaking hard. "Wouldn't have done that if they had hello fresh" wait what! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@citywind773]

The Russo Bros said they would come back for X-men. This phase is kind of boring.I hope they really do have something in store

[@Nathan-zd8ew]

Didnt think this movie could be worse than Morbius....but here we are.

[@stephengibbons2260]

Whatever Martin was smoking when he saw this movie, I want some. Thor 4 with Gorr was a bore and made my brain sore.

[@ItsJustCartier]

This is the most underrated comment about this dumbster of a movie

[@LeonardTaylor700]

Everyone is talking about Thor but I’m wondering where Martain got that fly ass hat

[@F.Hakeem89]

The way you talked about Thor it makes it seem like Peacemaker is a better "Bro" than Thor lol.

[@Psilocybin77]

Peacemaker....what a joke.

[@dantes9792]

Yeah, I absolutely hated it… And this is from someone who very much enjoyed Ragnarok. I know people harp on the MCU for “forcing comedy” but this is the first time where it actually felt they were going non-stop with the jokes and it got exhausting and it wasnt even half way over yet. Gorr was the biggest disappointment. Bale was awesome but the way they just called him the God Butcher but they didnt bother to show him actually out there killing gods was a big “wtf” along with him just randomly popping up at Earth. Yeah. This movie might be worst than Dark World for me tbh…

[@BlackRainbowHorror]

Agree.

[@TheC-Monster]

This movie is easily worse than Thor 2, by a landslide. Malekith was a bland villain but at least he was consistent. Gorr had the potential to be great, but there were so many scenes throughout where he was a totally different villain from one scene to the next, as if two or three different writers couldn't agree on how Gorr should be portrayed, whether as a serious and understandably-tragic villain fueled by anger and hatred towards gods or as a Pennywise-type who is just evil and enjoys tormenting and/or torturing people.

[@cjstryder5441]

This movie ain't that bad imo.

[@Pewpewpew182]

Heard it was more comedy than seriousness? Either way, glad another Thor film is here though. Can’t believe it’s been 11 years since the 1st film.

[@chasehedges6775]

Indeed. I feel old

[@chasehedges6775]

2011 was a great year

[@cgefkens4065]

Im just tired of these bland marvel movies at this point

[@chasehedges6775]

@@cgefkens4065 Same

[@aerystargaryenii2565]

Then its a pass for me. Thor is more entertaining when he's serious and not played for laughs

[@mladenkulic446]

I prefered the Shakespearean Thor over dude bro Thor. Wasn't a fan of Ragnarok so i'm skiping Love & Thunder.

[@lawrencericho3635]

I feel like Rag haters are a small community... hello brother😂

[@mladenkulic446]

@@lawrencericho3635 Hi sexy.😂

[@moxiemaxie3543]

People need to be okay with criticizing things they like. Its not a contradiction if you do. Sometimes things are just OKAY

[@cmike123]

I think people are asking too much of Marvel. Some of what Korey wished for in this film was utilized in MoM. The villain getting in depth back story, showing why they were dangerous, etc. But that did not resonate extremely well with the audience. Gorr, much like Kilmonger, Ikkarus and Hela showed up, fucked shit up, then got put down. I think what makes the villains more appealing is if their point of contention is relatable. Ikkarus was not relatable at all. Most of us dont care if a Celestial is born. Especially if it would kill us. Kilmonger was very relatable (especially to minorities) in his fight against his perceived oppressors. That was the main difference.

[@ninjanibba4259]

And hela was robbed of her destiny, even when trying to be a tyrant, you can understand her frustration of pulling down the curtains of lies Odin made

[@crabbypatty10fefrefe]

The really should have cut some of the goofy stuff that doesn't move the story forward and added in more scenes and story with Gorr.

[@brianorblindsey8414]

This is the first Marvel film where i actually hated it. Damn this was so bad and so not needed.

[@markneal6297]

The Gorr story in the comics played out like a action, drama, horror. Nothing comedic about it. I'm I interested to see how the comedy meshes with the story.

[@tjofwakanda8027]

Not good

[@Montesama314]

Thor: "Come to daddy..." Jane: "Coming!"

[@RedDevilStudio]

Honestly this movie was awful. Comedy often misplaced, too many scenes/time that never actually added to the overall plot and therefore a plot that was incredibly thin. But the worst thing was the trivialisation of loss/grief.

[@garrettcarter5622]

Does anyone think it's weird that Taika decided that Stormbreaker should be sentient in an MCU where we already have Strange's sentient cape? Kind of feels redundant.

[@LunarSpiral1127]

Not to mention that Stormbreaker was never sentient in Infinity War and in Endgame. So, why now in this movie?

[@kronos1794]

It would actually be strange if there was only one sentient magical item. They have always implied the hammer had a will of its own to an extent but I agree Stormbreaker was never shown to be sentient.

[@hichaeljordan963]

I know mjolnir is sentient in the comics but I can’t remember stormbreaker having sentience

[@BaithNa]

You must have hated Beauty and the Beast too because all of the inanimate objects were sentient smh Its just magic, roll with it.

[@HeavenOrHell74]

@@LunarSpiral1127 makes a lot of sense 🤔👊🏾

[@weilim10]

I'm fine with Guns N Roses, and Led Zeppelin from Ragnarok was cool... But I'm mad nobody thought to put Ride the Lightning by Metallica in a Thor film.

[@EdwardSanchezProductions]

You guys are bringing the love and thunder in this video

[@theconsciousobserver6829]

Lol

[@lightsoutmedia73]

I agree they should’ve gave gorr more and show him slaughtering more gods

[@dee8171]

I wish Thor hadn't have left the guardians so quickly. I was waiting for an Asguardians of the Galaxy movie. Lol

[@AheadOfTheCurve94]

So, how do I get a dumpling god plushy? Asking for a friend…

[@billiousslick2711]

I swear to christ I never thought I'd hear the phrase "inner frat boy" outside of that Billy and Mandy episode

[@nickpoprocky]

One of the best segues into the sponsor. Nicely done LOL

[@CousinCreepy]

Those goats also sounded like Slim Pickens riding the bomb down to it's target in Dr. Strangelove.

[@DreeZakaJedi]

The bottom line: THE MCU NEEDS THRE RUSSO BROS. THAT'S WHAT'S MISSING. PERIOD.

[@darksideofevil13]

I love the idea of Mjolnir splitting into pieces for smaller shots.

[@gmfam5424]

I don't

[@reepo7936]

When thor puts his hand up against star lord it reminded me of Jurrasic Park , Chris pratt to every dinosaur

[@joshuamendez9959]

y'all crack me up! loved ur review! just a thought... we took 3 phases and 10 years to build to Infinity War and Endgame... give the MCU some time to just have fun and explore some new themes, characters, and worlds, before we shatter the Multiverse. Love and Thunder did so much right for me, I loved every moment. Peace!

[@margaritamessiah2436]

I think people are burnt out on Marvel. Reason why one-offs like Joker & The Batman do well

[@chasehedges6775]

Indeed. And why The Dark Knight 2008 is still iconic

[@CrowTRobot]

If the movies were better they wouldn’t be. The shows are all inconsistent and this Phase of movies has a much lower batting average than Phase 3. But they still have some winners (Shang-Chi, NWH, MoM). I’m glad DC and MCU feel so different, I love them both.

[@kenXtripleI]

Logan as well

[@shindean]

Phase 4 is introducing new characters so we're not depending on RDJ to comeback in order to make a new phase. Honestly, who hasn't been presented or shown representation? We can't have X-men without establishing this, or ya'll going lose your minds at Northstar.

[@macabreromance]

I went into this thinking (SPOILERS)… . . . . . . That Thor was going to die but I was surprised that he didn’t. I like the fact that he is taking care of a kid now. It seemed they were getting rid of all the original avengers so I didn’t think they would keep Thor around. Other than that I loved the movie! I was expecting a lot more Valkyrie but nope.

[@ihavenocommonsensebut2008]

The fact he didn’t think he was worthy to be king but’s like “sure I’ll raise an adopted kid” idk that just doesn’t sit right

[@Apricotwarrior]

Vaylkrie is pretty badass, she needs more shine

[@Paranormal718]

Love that Waititi decided to go with Crowe's original intent for Zeus to have a Greek accent.

[@jeremilkshaker]

Guardians 3 was supposed to come out before Love and Thunder. Kinda bumbed we won’t see the actual team up between them

[@FieldofWings24]

Martin hit the nail on the head with the art design. It is the best of phase 4 while the others look generic.

[@oolong2]

For me, this movie was a complete disappointment and I think Marvel has lost its touch... The comedy was way too much, repetitive, and really not that funny nor exciting compared to Ragnarök and some of the jokes you could see coming. There were some cool moments, but it was few and far between. It feels like they've sacrificed story and character development for constant quirkiness and comedy. Like the Eternals movie, l feel like people could have skipped this movie and not really be worse off. Sadly, I probably liked Eternals more than Love & Thunder and probably laughed more in that movie too. Except for one or two things in the movie, pretty much everything you need to know is already in the trailer.

[@patrickcharles6983]

So I guess you can say those goats are the "GOAT"? also LMFAO at the Lost World clip of the dude screaming 🤣🐐🤘

[@younganthony7084]

I NEED FEIGE TO GET HIS HEAD BACK IN THE GAME MAN

[@otisharris1607]

If Martin liked it I’m probably going to like it. Korey is more unpredictable with his ratings. Martin doesn’t like a lot of movies so I hope I like it.

[@cjstryder5441]

I'm with you I tend to trust Martin's opinion's on movie's.

[@Planag7]

Yeah I tend to ride with Martin. However sometimes I disagree but I also see his points when I have disagreed

[@kryten09]

That's how I felt... Till I saw the movie last night. It's not a bad movie... But after 28/29 movies, couldn't help but think "Marvel Fatigue" is setting in from a story/vision (no pun intended) standpoint. And for being a "first day" Alamo Drafthouse screening, most of the jokes didn't land (going by audience reaction)

[@jaymann5180]

Martin also likes Spider-Man 3, so there's that.

[@chrisbrown8748]

This is by far the worst MCU movie to date so Martin was completely wrong😂

[@MissZang411]

In the comics, Gorr is a fantastic and complex character. He is honestly one of the best villains in a very long time. And this film completely dropped the ball on him and his story. I was very disappointed. Read the comic instead for the real essence of Gorr and for a strong compelling story.

[@Emoney-hy2kn]

Yeah just the potential dripping off of actually following through with that storyline involving King Thor and Young Thor would have made for a really great film. How they used Gorr felt like a disservice to both Jason Aaron and Esad Ribic.

[@melbrown2295]

Korey had all of those complaints about Phase 4, yet he totally forgot about “Shang Chi”, which was a great film, and happened just last year. He needs to chill.

[@theincrediblemr.b413]

Besides for Shang Chi, I think the movies of phase 4 are very lackluster

[@Brokephi316]

10:12 "Da F@#k you Doin?!!!" LOL!!! Stormbreaker jealous as Hell!!!!

[@93deadpool]

Sorry Martin, but ‘Top Gun: Maverick’ is still the summer movie King. Thor (while fun and enjoyable) never reached the emotional heights, film quality and definitely won’t dominate the box office as Maverick has.

[@360.Tapestry]

what's hilarious is that some refer to their "old woman" as a "battle axe" lmao

[@younganthony7084]

AND THEY WASTED THAT VERY GOOD CONCEPT OF WHY MJOLNIR PROTECTS JANE

[@64iceman82]

Corny corny corny whatever happened to Serious Thor sign of the times

[@Jredizzle1]

They nailed the timing on the goats screams 😂😂

[@theshadowdirector]

I don't really get this whole idea that Phase 4 doesn't have 'a plan'. The multiverse is clearly a link for many of the movies and shows. And honestly, I can see them wanting to give the audience a break after the metric ton of interconnected plot and heavy stuff at the end of phase 3. Heck, I'm pretty sure that's what I heard a lot of people ask for, to back up on the overarching plot for a little bit and give us some stand alone stuff. And they are.

[@anthonyjay-rcastillo326]

Flash Gordon: Love and Thunder - That's what I see this. lol

[@smurvin]

6:00 Technically Groot says hello (Also Rocket was completely naked during the Hooked on a Feeling montage in the first Guardians)

[@mikecameron6667]

Doctor Strange filled Thor's mug. That wasn't Thor's doing.

[@sadlobster1]

I am...beyond annoyed with the MCU right now, to be honest. Since his intro, we've had THREE other Thor movies...and yet not one of them featured the single most worthy wielder of Thor's hammer; Beta Ray Bill! He's been considered one of the most popular Thor characters in comics, if not one of the most popular Marvel characters in general among fans. Yet the closest thing we get to him being in the MCU is a lousy statue on "Not Sakaar?" Seriously, I've tried to ignore a lot of Disney and Marvel's dumb decisions lately but this is just pitiful

[@CrowTRobot]

The MCU has been knocking it out the park for over a decade. With the exception of some of their TV shows, Eternals and Black Widow, they’re still in a good place. But I somewhat agree with you on this one. I love Taika Waititi but was hoping he would lean into more of the Thor stuff and slightly less of the Taika comedy this time around. Beta Ray will definitely show but it’s probably for the best that he wasn’t in this one. I think he could actually replace our Thor down the road.

[@sadlobster1]

@@CrowTRobot But the question is...HOW would Bill replace Thor? What sort of story could there be that would lead to that

[@Paranormal718]

Those goats do sound like the guy from Jurassic Park 2. 😆 😆 😆

[@crunchwrapsupremeleader6147]

I wish korey would hire back CO-HOST 3000 as a regular host on DT. I miss their banter so much.

[@madlord124]

I haven't seen Thor 4 yet but looking at the viewers from my favorite youtubers, and professional critics. They are highlighting the concerns that I had when I saw the trailers and clips, like I dig Ragnorak but the jokes just undermine the seriorus moments. Hearing that Thor 4 increased those, makes me concerned. And its bad enough in my eyes that the simplified the Gorr design, but hearing him that he as less screen time scares me. I'm still seeing the movie and maybe something will surprise me, or dumb down the flaws.

[@ihavenocommonsensebut2008]

I was a huge thor stan and he was my favorite character but this movie mad me embarrassed to follow the character all these years. Like he seemed like such a deep character with some comedy here and there for contrast but now he isn’t allowed to go 3 minutes of seriousness without a joke

[@MoeGunz]

To me this movie was pretty bad. It’s so comedic that nothing felt like a threat or felt like stakes were high. Nothing seemed to matter much. Gorr was severally underutilized. The God Butcher should’ve been a big deal and was wasted. It was funny so much to a fault to me.

[@jimmiegiboney2473]

Post Script: Oh yeah! The songs! I've been awaiting for that one song by, "KISS", to be used in one of Thor's movies, but so far, no such luck. My friend, went on about some band and some guys, but I didn't know who he was talking about. You brought up, "Guns 'n' Roses", but I don't know the member's names! I don't know which songs that I've heard played in the juke box at, "Pizza Hut", were theirs! What I remember about that group's name, is the good pun that made me laugh out loud, when the band was new. It was in a sitcom on, "CBS". There was as episode about, Softball, and one of the teams was, "Nuns 'n' Roses"! 😂 But anyway, I hoping that, "KISS", will get to appear in one of these big budget movies, even as just an, "Easter Egg", as you guys call it, if not as characters. As far as I know, they only have the one comic book movie made for television in the 1970s. Quote One: A mad scientist (Anthony Zerbe) makes cartoon robots of the rock group (KISS), seen in a California concert. Release date: October 28, 1978 (USA) Director: Gordon Hessler Starring: Kiss; Anthony Zerbe; Deborah Ryan Music by: Hoyt Curtin Budget: $3 million (US) Distributed by: NBC Quote Two: Kiss Meets the Phantom of the Park is a 1978 American television film starring American ...  Original release: October 28, 1978 Original network: NBC

[@GulfbeachMateo]

Previously, Taika found a balance between his own type of humor and story-telling that was still faithful to the MCU in Ragnarok. Here it was ALL Taika, at his most obnoxious form.

[@lurkzie]

Between this, Buzzlightyear and Freeguy I'm really starting to get Taika fatigue

[@GulfbeachMateo]

@@lurkzie EXACTLY

[@masteryoda7207]

That's exactly how it felt to me too.

[@Music-City-Mania]

You know what’s weird? Tuning in to see a movie review for a film that’s basically a callback to 80s fantasy movies like Labyrinth or Neverending Story, only to be weirded out by a KZbin ad featuring a pubic hair doing a Disney-esque musical number. That’s weird and will forever be imprinted into my brain!

[@denvergray8943]

I know people love Ragnarok but I honestly felt like Thor was occasionally a little too clownish as a character, and the script itself couldn't hold a single damn moment without making a joke to rush or ruin it in that movie. Love and Thunder took that problem and dialed it up as high as they could for me. Thor is literally a clown, all of his MCU-spanning growth is basically gone and almost every opportunity for a joke, good or not, is seized immediately. Most of it doesn't land, at least IMO, so I was mostly just annoyed and ready to be done with the movie past the hour mark. Each entry in this Phase makes me less and less interested in continuing the MCU journey.

[@MM-hf6om]

Not only that. Where we left off ....I have no desire to see where things go for thor anymore.

[@Delboy0]

This is the review I am looking for because if Martin and Korey like a film, I know I will.

[@DrJay-iy8rv]

I’m sensing a Toothgrinder & Toothgnasher Spinoff🐐

[@KingOfMadCows]

Zeus is a drunk asshole in mythology. He's also pretty vicious and vindictive, but I'm guessing they're toning that down in this movie.

[@thefirstbourne149]

Is that Comic or Greek mythology?

[@rashadwalker8218]

Kevin feige has too many cooks in the kitchen.