Thor vs. Jörmungandr The World Serpent - Norse Mythology - Extra Mythology

[@extrahistory]

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[@danielsantiagourtado3430]

You all always make My days with these videos! SO fascinating and interesting! 🔥🔥🔥🔥❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

[@lananghayomingbumi2782]

Suggestion: do proto indo european mythology

[@Asuas-v5g]

That cat need a diet

[@SlayerGodOfDeath]

Loki have kid with 8 legs and odin ride it 😂

[@djkiltech]

Love your channel, though there's one tiny nitpick... Angrboða is pronounced with a th sound, not a d. Like how Ragnar Loðbrók is not pronounced "lodbrok". I know I'm nitpicking but it drives me bonkers when people anglicize a letter in one name, but not in another.

[@PT5-Shorts]

Shout out to the rope that kept up with Thor's strength and not break, and bigger shout out to the knife that cut said rope

[@Formalec]

Very Magical rope😂

[@gamewatch6861]

The strongest rope in all the world.

[@krankarvolund7771]

@@gamewatch6861 They should have used that rope to tie Fenrir instead of asking the dwarves XD

[@rozfalah38]

​@@krankarvolund7771 really should 😂

[@grapeshott]

And the boat

[@Artista_Frustrado]

i love that in some versions Thor drank so much of the sea he actually lowered it by a few meters... which honestly would explain a lot about why he thought fighting the World Serpent was a good idea

[@eostyrwinn5018]

I like the one where it caused the tides

[@germanomagnone]

perhaps the rise in sea levels is not caused by the melting of the poles. but it is Thor who "releases" all the water that he has drunk.

[@Merennulli]

The lesson: Don't tease the Norse in matters involving cats. They get really Thor about it.

[@briannamcdaniel266]

*insert rimshot here*

[@andrewvarney5687]

Good pun.

[@EdgyAngel]

WHEEZE🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@crazyviking24]

Utgarda-Loki actually waited until the gods were outside the gates of his land before revealing the truth because he was actually intimidated by the gods and said if he had known just how close Thor would come to destroying them, he wouldn't have ever let them inside his land.

[@Saiavinn]

The giant playing with fire- er, uh- Thunder.

[@JohnAnonym]

I have heard diffrent telling of this story, but the version I remember clearly was this: When they came to Utgarda-Loki castle, they had two servants of Thor tagging along. Þjálfi and Röskva. Þjálfi raced against Hugi, whom he lost three times over too. He was raceing against thought. Thor had drank the horn so much, that he created the tides we have today("And when you drank from the horn and thought it slow to sink, I dare say that was a miracle I had not expected to be possible; the far end of the horn was submerged in the sea, but you did not see that. Now, when you come to the shore, you will see what kind of sip you drank from the sea; there is now a sandy beach where there used to be water." Röskva Bore witness to this all, though still under the illusion casted by the giants. Oh; Thor also smacked his hammer ontop of the Giant Skrýmir head. Three times. Which woke the giant up and taunted Thor by saying: "Was that a acorn hitting my head? Or maybe a small piece of a branch?" On the Third time, he warned Thor that such Cockyness would be punished in the Utgarda-Loki castle and adviced him to turn back, before he picked up his knapsack and left deeper into the forrest. Also; During Thors fishing trip, he held so steadfast on the rope that he planks on the bottom of the ship gave away and through the holes pour seawater in. He managed to haul the serpent head onto the side of the boat, above the water, when Hymir in panic cut the rope. Thor got so pissed, that he didn't just "Gently pushed" him off the boat. He heaved Hymir overboard.(Basicly; He YEEEETED Hymir of the boat)

[@MortenHaggren]

They played 'mix & match' with at least 3 different stories, and as a result butchered the entire thing. Can't help but wonder if this is also true for the other entries in the series

[@jessicaclakley3691]

Thank you for the fun descriptive details behind some of these legends! I wish they’d kept in the breaking of the planks in the boat as that image is so pivotal in Norse iconography but ~shrug~ can’t win em all you know lol

[@GotCabbage]

@@MortenHaggrenThey have butchered some stories. One being how soon they caught Loki for killing Baldur.

[@ashleywilmington8048]

sob hymir died right?

[@DDlambchop43]

@@MortenHaggren you wanna try and do better? Come on, put your criticism where your mouth is.

[@abcdef27669]

"Well, at least I survived when dealing against my own reptilian enemy... And I didn't throwed an innocent fisherman on the water". - Saint George, seeing this story.

[@Kone5497]

Thor, Odinsson Protector of mankind, Time to meet your fate Ragnarok awaits!

[@williamchristensen7354]

🤘

[@resurgam75]

He will be victorious.

[@brendanlyttle7614]

Extra Mythology: Makes a video about Thor and Jormungander. Amon Amarth: *Heavy breathing*

[@-jeff-]

Thor. Killed by a god sized ego.

[@kevinnorwood8782]

That's not how Jormungandr killed Thor. In the midst of their battle, Jormungandr managed to get in a bite on Thor. The adrenaline of battle kept Thor alive long enough to kill Jormungandr, but after the deed was done, he was so exhausted that Jormungandr's venom was able to take effect, and Thor walked a total of nine steps before the venom finally killed him.

[@aliceosako792]

Has anyone here seen the 2020 Norwegian film _Mortal_ ? It is basically 'what if Thor had mortal descendants who had lived through Ragnarok to the present day?' While it is a bit of a slow burn, it does build up to quite an ending.

[@luisyanez6261]

Ragnarok is such a classic self fulfilling prophecy. If the Aesir hadn't thrown Jormugandr to the sea, it would have never become the powerful serpent of Midgard. If they hadn't banish Hela she would have never become the queen of Hel. And if they had never chained Fenrir by tricking it and abused his love for Tyr, it would have never warred against them

[@mistformsquirrel]

It's - a great way to illustrate that being a dick, even if you are powerful - can and will come back to bite you. (Quite literally in some cases... Yeah I'm looking at you Tyr.)

[@thomaswillard6267]

I mean, Hel didn't really do anything, and the other two were already fated to turn hostile. Also, since when does Fenrir love Tyr?

[@insert_name_here6487]

Problem is. It's not. Odin is actively trying to find each pitfall made that had Ragnarok happen and stop it

[@superspider64]

I actually have a personal theory partially related to Thor vs Jormungandr, It's also related to Susano-o vs Orochi and Heracles vs the Hydra. All 3 of these legends have the same basic premise of a God, in some way related to thunder and lightning, slaying a mighty, serpentine beast. So my personal theory is that there's some sort of proto-mythology from some ancient civilization that saw dinosaur fossils get exposed after a particularly powerful thunderstorm

[@delasvegas9644]

The Greeks and Norse were both indo-European and it's very likely that the proto-Indo-Europeans had a story about a thunder god vs a giant serpent that got passed down. See other myth's from other Indo-European cultures like the Persian Fereydun vs Zahhak or the Slavic Perun vs Veles or the Hindu Indra vs Vritra. Susanoo v Orochi is most likely the Japanese adaptation of the myth, brought there indirectly from India with the spread of Buddhism. (It should be noted that there is a good chance that Marduk v Tiamat is also borrowed from the Indo-european Hittites)

[@adamweishaupt3733]

There actually is a popular academic theory that draws parallels between the mythologies of the various Indo-European cultures and attempts to reconstruct the original proto-indo-european myths much like the reconstruction of the proto-indo-european language. The most widely accepted figure is "*Dyēus," the sky father, which lead to figures like Odin and Zeus and even the Latin words "deus" and "deity." Unfortunately Japan is not an Indo-European culture and so likely was not inspired by the same myths, and Wikipedia mainly notes parallels between the Hydra and other near eastern myths containing multi-headed serpents, rather than cultures as distant as Scandinavia. In general though comparative mythology is fascinating and if you're interested you should definitely do more research into the academic study.

[@firstofthefallen6034]

This motiff is called Chaoskampf, literally "the struggle against Chaos" and it's far more ubiquitous than the just among the Indo Europeans. There's Marduk vs Tiamat in the Enuma Elish, Yahweh (who most scholars agree was some kind of storm god in the early Israelite Religion) vs Leviathan in the Bible, Baal vs Lotan in the Caananite Religion, Susanoo vs Yamato-no-Orochi in Japanese Mythology. The phenomenon where similar myths, like the Chaoskampf, appear independently in various cultures is often referred to as "convergent cultural evolution". Within this field, recurring patterns, like the Chaoskampf, are often seen as evidence of universal human experiences, psychological archetypes, or common responses to similar environmental challenges. Another example is the Flood Myth.

[@kayemni]

So that giant who cut the rope indirectly caused the apocalypse

[@briannamcdaniel266]

He's to blame.

[@Soul_scythe_chronicles]

Yup

[@danielsantiagourtado3430]

Great time as always! Learning new mythological things with you guys is awesome!😊😊😊❤❤❤❤❤

[@danielsantiagourtado3430]

LOVE these midweek videos guys! Thor is among my favorite mythilogical Gods!🎉🎉🎉🎉❤❤❤❤❤

[@litepaw7]

Myth: Thor trying to kill his cousin Marvel: Thor trying to kill this Nephew.

[@alanb8884]

Loki being Odin's blood brother...I suppose you could make a case for cousin...

[@StonedtotheBones13]

How... How is his brother's kid not his nephew?

[@simonboyce2235]

​Loki is Not Thor's adopted brother in actually Mythology​@@StonedtotheBones13

[@pablodonner5213]

A yes Odin, theoretically the most cunning of the gods hearing the prophesy and immediately giving the sons and daughter of Loki the means and motivation to fulfill said prophesy

[@TheCreepypro]

I never tire of hearing this myth and this is by far 1 of the most fun retellings I have heard!

[@codysing1223]

I've heard this story countless times... but they never once mentioned the Death of Thor... Of poison no less, That even a God can die... and be remembered in humanity forever. Such a powerful idea, gives anyone the hope to stand up in such an unforgiving world. Just like their hero and God Thor Odinson.

[@EdgyAngel]

Fun fact, according to the myths, when Thor crushes Jormangandr's head, he'll rupture the poison glands, getting a face full of poison. They say that after killing the serpent, Thor will survive for just 9 more steps before succumbing to the poisons. (I'm using future-tense terms because Ragnarok was set to happen in the far-off future.)

[@Cythil]

Norse Mythology was very much into the concept of fate, urðr or wyrd. (Which is the root word for weird). So unlike the story telling in video which describe Ragnarök as happing in the past, it was more of a prophecy. Thing that were going to happen. And showed even the gods could not escape fate. And trying to run from your fate was seen as dishonourable. But the prophecies of what was going to happen lose enough that you decided on the terms. So if fate had decided you were going to die by a bear attack, you could decide if it was going to be when you defended the village from it, or if it was when you tried to run away from it. Of course, we only have a small selection of the tales from that era, and also from a few specific places. This as an oral tradition, so tales likely differed a lot. Due to the small amount we have preserved, it is hard to tell how widespread different tales were about the gods. And the best preserved examples are not written by those believed in these tales. But Christians after. Though of course there are some rune stones and iconography from the time that shows for example Thor going fishing. Anyway, what I mean to say is that there might have been quite big differences in the tales, and some parts were likely influenced by Christianity. Still a topic of research.

[@krankarvolund7771]

In both of the original sources that evoke the death of Jormungandr, Odin is said to have taken nine steps after killing him, and in the prose Edda, it's said that he died after these nine steps.

[@insaincaldo]

@@krankarvolund7771 Oldest written sources*

[@krankarvolund7771]

@@insaincaldo True ^^

[@rolebo1]

Thor vs. Jormungandr, the norse version of the Chaos kampf. It is present in most Indo European mythology, the storm god fighting the chaotic sea monster.

[@bobs_toys]

Missed a life of Brian reference. And he grew He grew and grew Grew up to be Grew up to be A world spanning serpent.

[@ShanRenxin]

As a wise woman once said: “Unorthodox display of hubris but very well!”

[@ChronoMager]

"From the ancient Mesopotamians to Galileo to Google Maps, *humidity* has sought to answer a fundamental mystery of our existence." We owe a great debt to atmospheric moisture.

[@jonhanson8925]

Glad someone else noticed!

[@GeroldGarthcia]

Awesome video as always!

[@alexaa928]

0:22: 🐍 The Norse gods believed that a giant snake named Yurman Gander encircled the earth at the World's End. 2:32: 😂 Thor's attempts to prove his might in various challenges end in humiliation and entertainment for the gods. 5:29: 🐍 Thor and Jaimeer go fishing and catch the world serpent. 7:46: 🔨 Thor dies in Ragnarok but his death is seen as a heroic sacrifice, securing his legacy as a god of strength and protection. 9:31: 🍽 Factor 75 offers fast, tasty meals that fit your lifestyle for a discount. Recap by Tammy AI

[@dominicadrean2160]

I remember in Marvel Comics when Thor got the world serpents sister( hela ) pregnant 😂 It's always funny when people make stories of Mythology because it leads to funny results

[@Artista_Frustrado]

i mean Mythology itself is 99.9999% people making stories of other Mythology 😂

[@EdgyAngel]

Me remembering that in Thor Ragnarok Hela was portrayed as his (most likely older) sister: WTF?!😱😱😱

[@andrisszives3579]

I really like your videos, keep up this fun content-making. I need to correct you on a few details. The story in which Thor and Loki go on a trip to Jötunheim is one of my favorites and I've listened and read it many times (just like other stories). So I noticed a few mistakes, most of which are not important due to the main topic of the video, but one is. When Thor tries to lift Útgard-Loki's cat, he's able to elevate the cat far above his head, so high, that only one paw of the cat touches the ground. Thus Thor presents himself so strong, that he almost lifted the whole body of Jörmungandr.

[@Primordial_Radiance]

"Honestly you shouldn't have even been able to lift one paw. That scared the hell out of us." 😂😂😂

[@catoctober8005]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@waldencerneka2287]

💀😂

[@edoardoprevelato6577]

THERE COMES FENRIS' TWIN HIS JAWS ARE OPEN WIDE THE SERPENT RISES FROM THE WAVES

[@Pikashockdragon]

8:22 Introducing Zoey! The Cat Goddess of Sass! XP

[@theeNappy]

You told Ranarock in the wrong tense. Ragnarock didn't HAPPEN, Ranarock WILL happen. This is consistent context in line with its representation in the original text.

[@germanomagnone]

I'm sure that Utgard-Loki and his giants had created jokes to keep the losers "burned in humiliation" like: one says "you know plenty about Loki at the table" and the other says "I don't know" the first "Loki after 2 crumbs he's full" or "you know how and Thor fights. He is such a sissy, that a granny puts him on the ground", this is for Zoey "you know how Thor is with cats. he's so weak, he's even scared of a mouse" there was also Þjálfi against hugi in the race (hugi = the thought)

[@sionfel]

For a great retelling of this myth watch the 2009 classic "Thor at the Bus Stop".

[@tylerryan713]

Is this why thor likes snakes and picks them up in marvel I wonder...

[@ELSTERLING]

Fun fact about Ragnarok: Because there was no actual 'Norse pantheon', rather a group of competing faiths, whilst it is foretold by the Odin-worshipers that only Baldr will survive in to the new world (possibly a myth introduced or manipulated by Christians looking to syncretise Odinic worship) other tales hint that, in fact, only Freyja will be born anew. Given that she's also burned to death and just springs back to life unharmed in the Aesir-Vanir war her entire character arc from start to finish is that she is literally the indestructible cycle of life and death.

[@Kaleisbord]

I NEED a full extra mythology theme song

[@4501productions]

Thor! Odin's son Protector of mankind Ride to meet your fate Your destiny awaits Thor! Hlôdyn's son Protector of mankind Ride to meet your fate Ragnarök awaits

[@yobgodababua1862]

And a God who wasn't afraid of drag..

[@litepaw7]

Bruh, please read the actual material instead of tumblr. He dressed in drag to get his hammer and He HATED the fact that he had to put on a dress to do that.

[@yobgodababua1862]

@@litepaw7 Nevver read a tumblr in my life, just the original myths. Didn't say he enjoyed it, just that he wasn't afraid of it.

[@Adig022]

Logi is another word for fire, and when Thor tried to lift the cat he actually was able to lift its back very high but he couldnt lift it up completely. As a Scandinavian i learned this in school.

[@mathieuleader8601]

Jörmungandr is great at acting with its cat impression

[@Jonathan-bu7iv]

My ancestors must’ve been really fucking high/drunk.

[@Ferretfiend18]

Unorthodox display of hubris, but very well

[@adityaguru6654]

God of rain and thunder slaying a serpent is a common story in al the Indo European religions. In India it is Indr vs the serpent Vritr, but the story has differences, and ours is very philosophical and properly documented.

[@woodencoyote4372]

I wonder if there's a reaccuring motif in this part of the world of chucking prophesied monsters into the sea only to have them come back worse. Have you considering a video on Cath Palug?

[@zenflow4life]

It is going to sound weird, but I found the serpent on Google Maps. In the water, at the edge of the earth.

[@usagipoutine]

5:45 Holy crap, that's the strongest rope, boat and knife I ever saw!

[@th3voice]

The illustration of Thor trying to lift Utgard-Loki's cat is... I hesitate to say "wrong", but it's wrong. The problem of lifting the Midgard-kitty isn't that it's too heavy, it's that it's too LONG. Much like if you try to lift under a cat's belly, you'll find that the cat will extend unto arbitrary length so as to stay on the ground. Its not a "chonky cat" problem, it's a "longcat" problem.

[@christinasimons6549]

I would love to see a Chris hemsworth reenaction of this story 😂

[@Ikirus]

So Thor was Jörmungandr's uncle and killed him out of spite

[@EdgyAngel]

Actually in the real Norse mythology, Loki wasn't Thor's adoptive brother, but instead was blood-brothers with Odin (Thor's father), making Loki Thor's uncle, so by that logic, Jormungander is actually Thor's cousin. No clue as to why Marvel decided to make Thor and Loki brothers. But then again, Hollywood, so...

[@mistformsquirrel]

@@EdgyAngel It might have, at the time the comic book char was made, have been thought to be more digestible for an audience probably broadly less well versed in mythology. It's genuinely wild if you think about how different 1962 (when the Thor comic character came out) compared to 2023 - 60 years ago anyone interested in the mythology would have had to physically get a book, which might actually be hard to acquire depending on the area you live in; and might even not be well translated. I'm not saying the writers didn't do research - just... if you think about the information a regular comic reader of the time would have access to there's just... a lot they wouldn't likely know. Just saying "Yeah this is his adopted brother" is... simpler. - and of course 60 years later the comic character more or less has his completely own separate mythology built up now that makes it hard to alter things without... well I'm sure you've seen fandom be... fandom before. Idk, that's my best guess anyway.

[@odemanthegreat]

More videos i love yall

[@Stikasasn]

"...pierced the hook with the Ox's head...", how do you pierce a hook with a head of an ox? 5:26

[@DDlambchop43]

according to research (specifically, OSP Red's research) Utgard Loki literally means "Loki of the Outyards"

[@postapocalypticnewsradio]

PANR has tuned in.

[@faceoctopus4571]

Appreciate that Thor never used both hands with his hammer. I've seen him use both hands too many times.

[@krankarvolund7771]

I mean, have you seen the length of that handle? I'm pretty sure he can't put his entire hand on it, let alone two XD

[@vivalapita8484]

Interesting explanation of the Doldrums

[@LevinFroggo-fs7uu]

I would LOVE it if you made a Ragnarök episode

[@ablefisher]

Praise Thor who died for our salvation and fulfilled the protoevangelium.

[@sheller153]

“Thor pierced the hook with the ox’s head” I think you mixed your words around there!

[@ranwolf76]

Utgarda-Loki just made an appearance in the newest Thor comic. Apparently there's also an Utgarda-Thor

[@luckyponcedeleon2469]

Thats the snake that tokk shanks arm from one piece

[@clockworkcthulhu8195]

I wonder about the decision of telling the prophecy of Ragnarok in past tense...

[@insanecrazyman7637]

So couple of things... The World Serpent isn't at the 'edge of the world' he rests at the bottom of the seas, wrapped around the bottom and with his tail in his mouth. Thor and the serpent battle takes MUCH longer in Ragnorak, and Thor dies in the end due to poison from the snake himself not the air... (also Ragnorak hasn't happened yet)

[@killjoy1564]

What is youre favorite part of history cus ive been watching youre channel for 9 years

[@extrahistory]

It's hard to pick! We've had so many amazing series. I think John Brown has been our favorite this year.

[@killjoy1564]

@extrahistory yeah you made me like history mines khosrau the 'immortal soul'

[@ASpaceOstrich]

Oh. I just realised when they say "encircled the world" they mean like in a flat earth scenario. Like a great coiled serpent, rather than a belt. That makes the imagery of it so much cooler.

[@akihikosakurai4013]

Norse mythology is a bit confusing when it comes to ragnarok. It's simultaneously a world ending event that's going to happen, and an event that already happened. They're telling this story like they're living in a post-ragnarok world, and they say that thor died, yet the Norse still prayed to him as if he was alive

[@decent-i-guess]

4:49 “His buddy” suuuurrreeeee

[@Ishmael_LCB]

Thor is like the newbie who accidentally starts a bossfight in the middle of a sidequest

[@skybluskyblueify]

Is this serpent the Milky Way? A sort of spotted and speckled snake?

[@JAY-gl5xd]

That's what I've thought. The sky is often compared to the ocean. "A sea of stars" "the dark abyss"

[@uhlie_sro]

Good video man

[@Ubrzani]

"Thoor! Odin son and protector of mankind, rise to meet your fate, Ragnarok awaits!"⚡

[@Holmesson]

Mad props on your pronunciation.

[@Darth8113]

Deep beneath the surface Lurks a mighty beast

[@palladin9479]

The Norse, creators of OG Heavy Metal Rock.

[@kruggerjrthe2nd235]

1:32 they were also accompanied by thors human servant þjalfi

[@chidedneck]

This is equivalent to Fractured Fairytales, and I do mean that as a compliment

[@EdgyAngel]

Wow, three curse words. Was, not expecting that. But I'm not complaining so...🤣🤣

[@lizycole8999]

Thor: he can lift the Mjolnir AND the Meow-meow!

[@petermaraz848]

Extra History is the second best source on nordic mythology, right after Amon Amarth... :)

[@DDlambchop43]

no love for OSP?

[@mikelshort9150]

Thor and his Frenemie loki. Best description of there relationships

[@ASMoney13]

Understanding men 101. I must prove my strength until it kills me.

[@allenzhou3051]

8:22 Feed me hammer lover. Wait. The tail falls off.

[@RupertTheOctopus]

Team Jormungandr

[@averagegeek4855]

Or as we call it in Danish: Midgårdsormen (the middleearth* worm(*one of the realms in norse mythology)).

[@kingwolf3044]

You left out the part about tides and the continent’s. And the cat arched it’s back. He was lifting from underneath and it kept bending.

[@Canada463]

Hey, you probably will never ever see this but I think you should do something on the Aztec empire it be pretty cool I guess

[@chloegao2946]

Please, make the second one! (If there will be)

[@CaptainKillroy]

5:36 inspiration for RE4 lol

[@redpanda3617]

Utgarda Loki connected the cup that Thor drank from to the ocean

[@Starthclyde]

you forgot about the footrace where a mortal child nearly outran thought.

[@grapeshott]

Someone buy me that boat

[@Lady_Chalk]

Could you do more of "So you haven't read:" eps?

[@JoshuaLe-x4f]

“GOD OF THUNDER GOD OF LIGHTING GOD OF REALY WANTING TO HEAT UP THAT SNAKE”

[@rubycarnodemonicdragonprin3450]

What did snakes ever do to deserve their bad REPUTATION

[@DragonFae16]

It would be super cool if you guys could do a colab with OSP. I think this channel and theirs would be able to do an incredible collaboration together.

[@redjaypictures4528]

Question, was that part in the two newest god of war games about thor whacking the snake so hard it went back in time made up? Or is that actually part of norse mythology

[@krankarvolund7771]

Yeah it was made up XD Jormungandr has nothing to do with time, and I don't think any norse myth include going back in time ^^'

[@macgonzo]

There might be truth in the story of the Ragnarok, as the section that describes the world serpent (I'd just mess up the spelling) driving the sea on to the land might be based on the fact that there's evidence of a major tsunami in the North Sea around the year 500ad.

[@galethewhirlwind3252]

Funny how this video drops the day I started wearing a Mjölnir.

[@maxleroux]

Does anyone else think it's a little coincidental that this episode of EM dropped not that long after Dragons: The Nine Realms Season 7 was released? 🐍