Is George Lucas the key to saving Star Wars? Should Disney go to him before it's too late?

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Thor Skywalker

Thor Skywalker

Күн бұрын

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@CountHigginbotham
@CountHigginbotham 4 күн бұрын
The guy wished to retire, so I'd probably pick some Expanded Universe writer to take the reins. If only George made wiser choices when picking apprentices...
@Paradox-es3bl
@Paradox-es3bl 4 күн бұрын
Mr. Tim?! :0
@Daniel_Huffman
@Daniel_Huffman 4 күн бұрын
I would advocate for James Lucino to take charge in such a scenario.
@rcbmmines4579
@rcbmmines4579 3 күн бұрын
I concur with James Luceno taking a more active role. From Pre-Disney to after, he's made consistently great novels which really connected to and built on what others did before him. I'd love to see Timothy Zahn advise on an Heir to the Empire film as well. Maybe even co-write. There's a good chance George Lucas wouldn't have made the Prequels if not for the EU rejuvenating and keeping the fandom alive, and Zahn's work jumpstarted it. I'd also love to see Michael Stackpole, Matthew Stover and Haden Blackman get involved in some projects, or at least get credited while new projects get made based on their work (get that Rogue Squadron movie to happen, make an animated film based on Luke Skywalker Shadows of Mindor, continue The Force Unleashed). But right now, all of that's just a dream. Here's to hoping.
@Daniel_Huffman
@Daniel_Huffman 2 күн бұрын
@@rcbmmines4579 I gained additional respect for Lucino after finding out that he expressed concerns about the ramifications of rebooting the continuity. For similar reasons, I also consider Leeland Chee to be a worthy candidate. It was his job to ensure that continuity stayed consistent, and he was also able to reconcile seemingly contradictory stories in a way that elevated the overall narrative. Plus, I feel bad for him having to put up with Dave Filoni going out of his way to blatantly retcon the existing material during the production of _The Clone Wars,_ on one occasion abusing George Lucas' authority to get around Chee's objections.
@rcbmmines4579
@rcbmmines4579 2 күн бұрын
@ Oh man yeah I read up before on Leeland Chee doing his best to reconcile TCW with the EU's Clone Wars continuity. I grew up with TCW but I really got into the original EU Clone Wars Multimedia Project, diving deep after I was really disappointed with the ST and new canon. I got to say, in many ways I prefer the old timeline, even as I love both. Even now, new content continues to contradict canon material, books and comics. Filoni is complicit for sure but to be fair, I think he really did get that from George from the BTS of TCW and what Sam Witwer said when he brought up an inconsistency between TCW and another novel at the time.
@istari0
@istari0 4 күн бұрын
At his age and with his family situation, to expect Lucas to take over running Star Wars again is unrealistic, even if Disney would be willing to take that step. He might be willing to be a consultant to advise them on what not do but even then he'd be dealing with Kennedy and at this point I have a hard time believing that relationship would work.
@thorskywalker
@thorskywalker 4 күн бұрын
There's zero chance he comes back to run Lucasfilm. There's a small chance he'd come back to contribute to something. However, as I say in the video, I think that would've already happened at this point.
@jdstudios1912
@jdstudios1912 4 күн бұрын
​@@thorskywalkerconsidering that he called Disney the white slavers I suspect he's done with it all.
@jayoungr
@jayoungr 4 күн бұрын
I'd settle for Disney pulling those film treatments they threw away out of the trash and using them.
@wbfwbl8434
@wbfwbl8434 4 күн бұрын
Its too late for that. People just don't care about Star Wars anymore. Besides that - George wants to enjoy the rest of his life and won't invest his time in SW. Disney bought his scripts and burried them. After that I'm sure he won't trust Disney people with his creative vision
@kaptinbarfbeerd1317
@kaptinbarfbeerd1317 4 күн бұрын
yep. he also said he wanted to go back to making experimental films. Coming back to SW would hold him back from that so yeah, hes not coming back.
@sofaking1627
@sofaking1627 3 күн бұрын
Man, people who don't care about Starwars sure consume a lot of Starwars KZbin content. People care, that's why people are still talking about how Disney ruined Starwars.
@sgauden02
@sgauden02 3 күн бұрын
Here's a start: FIRE KATHLEEN KENNEDY!!! Do that and maybe, just MAYBE, it'll be at least a START to breathing new life into the franchise.
@hharrybboy
@hharrybboy Күн бұрын
Even so, more people would care if Lucas came back
@wbfwbl8434
@wbfwbl8434 Күн бұрын
@hharrybboy I agree but he won't
@ilovedorkychicks9896
@ilovedorkychicks9896 4 күн бұрын
There is no saving SW until KK is gone
@worldview3182
@worldview3182 4 күн бұрын
Been saying this for YEARS. It blows my mind she is still there after so many flops and angry fans
@Cwmira453
@Cwmira453 4 күн бұрын
At this point, not even George can fix this mess. Its dead. Quite dead. Let it RIP and watch Dune.
@worldview3182
@worldview3182 4 күн бұрын
​@@Cwmira453 Dune 1 and 2 gave me the same sense of amazement Star Wars did when I was kid
@moffjendob6796
@moffjendob6796 4 күн бұрын
Until she picks Headland or Filoni to follow her. MORE WITCHES FOR EVERYONE!
@AK-Sheepdog
@AK-Sheepdog 4 күн бұрын
@ilovedorkychicks9896 I would also lump Filoni in with her. I would not mind seeing Whitwer take over Filonis position. That guy has proven time and again how much he knows, understands, respects and cares about the lore on many levels
@thenight527
@thenight527 4 күн бұрын
FIRE KATHLEEN KENNEDY!!! that is all goodbye the end
@terrythompson1873
@terrythompson1873 4 күн бұрын
HehHeh!!🤣🤣
@jdstudios1912
@jdstudios1912 4 күн бұрын
Kk is now committed to achieving immortality so she can continue her dark work.
@terrythompson1873
@terrythompson1873 4 күн бұрын
@ HehHeh!!🤣🤣🤣
@Peterski
@Peterski 4 күн бұрын
Well, you underestimate them. They can always replace her with somebody even less competent.
@terrythompson1873
@terrythompson1873 4 күн бұрын
@ you’re absolutely correct
@moffjendob6796
@moffjendob6796 4 күн бұрын
Sorry, Thor. The Man in the Hat has made things VERY clear: the World Between Worlds is SOLEY for keeping his waifu alive.
@drdwaynecuster
@drdwaynecuster 4 күн бұрын
The Lucas Museum of Narrative Art is scheduled to open next year in LA. He's 80 years old and retired. He sold Lucasfilm. Why would he want anything to do with Star Wars ever again? Ain't gonna happen.
@lasercraft32
@lasercraft32 4 күн бұрын
I don't hate the sequel characters, I just hate how they were written. As much as people hate on Rey, she could have easily been a compelling character if they had done things differently (and Finn was a huge waste of potential too). If they remade the sequels or made a new alternate timeline or something, then I wouldn't mind having the sequel characters appear in it, so long as its written well.
@Buckeyesteve10
@Buckeyesteve10 4 күн бұрын
Wholeheartedly agree.
@jdstudios1912
@jdstudios1912 4 күн бұрын
I couldn't agree more. That's why I despise the sequels as much as I do. The wasted potential.
@draynah14
@draynah14 4 күн бұрын
Honestly, I didn't mind Rey that much before they tried everything they could to replace Luke, ruined his character and killed him off in the least honorable way possible. It's clear that current Lucasfilm has no love for my all-time favorite character and had no issues with disrespecting everything he stood for. And I have no love for them.
@Nartanek
@Nartanek 4 күн бұрын
It's kind of a dumb take. Any character can work yes but saying they had potential means nothing. Anything can have potential and could be done differently. Rey is bland, could they have made her less bland? Yes, but she is nonetheless. And yes Finn had the most potential but completely wasted him for some reason.
@jdstudios1912
@jdstudios1912 4 күн бұрын
​@@Nartanekwe all know why fin was wasted, china doesn't like black people.
@tikiman52
@tikiman52 4 күн бұрын
Hey thor, have u heard of the star wars reexpanded universe? It's a collection of fans that write really high quality fan fiction and tie stories together, fix outdated lore, and continue storyline that were canceled before their completion. I recommend checking it out and giving a few of the stories a read. They're full length novels and on par with some of the best EU.
@ShundoZiggy
@ShundoZiggy 4 күн бұрын
Is there like a community we can find for this, or just a place where we could find the stories?
@tikiman52
@tikiman52 4 күн бұрын
Look up star wars reexpanded universe. I've tried posting the link a few times and it won't let me. There's a Google sheet out there that lists all of them
@jdstudios1912
@jdstudios1912 4 күн бұрын
Tell me everything you know
@jaketheberge1970
@jaketheberge1970 4 күн бұрын
What's a good place to start?
@MikeSandersonVideos
@MikeSandersonVideos 4 күн бұрын
I don't trust them not to go too far even for fans
@jdstudios1912
@jdstudios1912 4 күн бұрын
I think the reality is star wars lost a core part of what made it so special the moment it was sold. It was always separate from Hollywood and was all about pushing the boundaries. Under disney it's become exactly what it was made to oppose.
@7thwheel
@7thwheel 4 күн бұрын
Simply put it ceased to be special.
@jonathanryan9946
@jonathanryan9946 4 күн бұрын
No... a) George retired because of both his age and stress of appeasing fans b) what Lucas wants isn't what most fans want c) Lucas's stated plan outlines for his sequels even he admitted weren't very marketable So Star Wars wont be saved by giving it back to Lucas. Too many fans will still hate it. Especially since Lucas's ideas were pretty close to the Sequels, a mental beaten Luke barely having trained anyone and feeling betrayed by the Galaxy... isn't the hero fans want or the franchise needs. They want the Luke that saved Grogu. The Luke from Legends that had a family and rebuilt a new and reimagined order. What the Franchise needs is Luke being ghe hero he was in Legends. Getting the best EU authors like Timothy Zahn and James Luceno will likely give us something actually be more appealing to the broadest market. This is what Star Wars needs. Now, Don't get me wrong. Id love for Lucas to do an animated version of his Sequels... because why not let the creator in some fashion be able to tell his story. However I'd bet a weeks pay it won't be as well received as Disney hopes it would be. Lucas literally wants midi-chlorians being controled by the whills/force gods, who are the perfect beings guiding the living lesser life forms. And a twilek Sith because he got a crush on her artwork 20 years ago.
@geraintthatcher3076
@geraintthatcher3076 4 күн бұрын
That's cool you don't have to watch them but we could
@zackdouglas6647
@zackdouglas6647 4 күн бұрын
There needs to be an animated Legends version of the franchise
@saberiandream316
@saberiandream316 4 күн бұрын
I'd be fine with that only so long as Filoni is kept far, FAR away from it.
@Wackaz
@Wackaz 4 күн бұрын
They could easily bring Michael Arndt's original Episode 7 script (which was a direct adaptation of George Lucas' Sequel trilogy treatments) out of the Lucasfilm vault, and take it from there in re-doing the Sequels. Michael Arndt was the only person who worked with George Lucas directly on the Episode 7 story treatments before Lucas decided to sell Lucasfilm to Disney, and after then, they fired Arndt and locked the script away, but I am sure it is still there, shut behind closed doors, waiting to be adapted...
@amarcellus1714
@amarcellus1714 4 күн бұрын
Biggest mistake they made. All because they were afraid that Luke was going to overshadow the story.
@MikeSandersonVideos
@MikeSandersonVideos 4 күн бұрын
Not really easily when the OT cast are mostly gone and there's no way Ford would come back at his age. It's done. It's not happening.
@geraintthatcher3076
@geraintthatcher3076 4 күн бұрын
​@@amarcellus1714 it's because they wanted to do a rehash whereas Lucas was looking at an actual sequel. That's not what Disney wanted
@trevorrogers95
@trevorrogers95 4 күн бұрын
They definitely need to bring him on board and seriously take into consideration his recommendations. George definitely needs people with power to temper his more, let’s say, out there ideas, but they should definitely accommodate the man and listen to what he has to say.
@AK-Sheepdog
@AK-Sheepdog 4 күн бұрын
Like his ex-wife that was an (Award Winning) editor for the Original Trilogy. She was not only a voice of reason, but helped trim a lot of fat that helped make the OT what it is.
@Paradox-es3bl
@Paradox-es3bl 4 күн бұрын
Sure. Have him be a consultant, but not the guy in charge.
@jdstudios1912
@jdstudios1912 4 күн бұрын
​@@AK-Sheepdogthe same woman who called up kk and said you're screwing this up let me help and was ignored.
@AK-Sheepdog
@AK-Sheepdog 4 күн бұрын
@jdstudios1912 Which is another reason why kk needs to step down. She's not one to take anyone's advice or criticism unless in it's an agreement with her own personal views. Not to mention that nearly all of her previous accolades since the 80s were merely riding on other peoples coat tails instead of any actual individual accomplishments. Though that could be said about damn near every company president and ceo out in the world today
@MikeSandersonVideos
@MikeSandersonVideos 4 күн бұрын
​@@jdstudios1912and she's right
@kalzium8857
@kalzium8857 4 күн бұрын
Yeah asking George Lucas. What could go wrong? Ever since he sold Star wars, I don't think that he thought about Star wars very often. Lets face it George Lucas is old and probably not in the mood of fixing star wars. Furthermore the people at Lucasfilm are too prideful to listen towards any piece of advice.
@saberiandream316
@saberiandream316 4 күн бұрын
Look at Filoni shutting out Zahn when writing for Ahsoka. He says he's running into problems for Season 2, and he STILL won't consult Zahn! Pride isn't just a vice at Lucasfilm - it's a way of life.
@jdstudios1912
@jdstudios1912 4 күн бұрын
​@@saberiandream316filoni is an incompetent hack who's only skill is claiming credit for others work. Some of the best tcw episodes weren't written by him. He's an animation supervisor that's what he's good at. He can't write to save his life.
@johnmiwa6256
@johnmiwa6256 4 күн бұрын
Yes, yes, yes. George Lucas created Star Wars. Star Wars is whatever George Lucas says it is.
@Spiderwolfer
@Spiderwolfer 4 күн бұрын
100%
@theanonymouscritic1710
@theanonymouscritic1710 4 күн бұрын
I second that.
@shadowofchaos8932
@shadowofchaos8932 4 күн бұрын
We should PAY him for his input. Not just buy him out and push his treatment away. GL is the answer
@uknow1d
@uknow1d 4 күн бұрын
Well yeah but George effectively said that Star Wars is whatever Disney says it is by selling it to them
@fat4eyes
@fat4eyes 4 күн бұрын
Be careful what you wish for, you may get a Megalopolis
@DARTH-KTULU
@DARTH-KTULU 4 күн бұрын
I think Anthony Ingruber is the better choice for Han. He played a younger Harrison Ford in The Age Of Adeline and until I saw it wasn’t just Ford de-aged I could have sworn it was. That guy is a dead ringer, and has the voice and mannerisms down.
@fatman80000
@fatman80000 4 күн бұрын
A slight tangent: you know who else can play Princess Leia? Natalie Portman. Cue a minor character who is from Naboo talking to an older Leia Organa- "you look like your mother, Queen/Senator Amidala".
@reznik232
@reznik232 4 күн бұрын
Remaking the sequels would be like removing a fatal tumour from a dead body - it's too late, the body is already dead.
@ChristianGabino
@ChristianGabino 4 күн бұрын
Remaking the Sequel Trilogy is a Good Thing! 👍🤌
@Mouse_Metal
@Mouse_Metal 4 күн бұрын
And there´s too many "turmours" besides the sequels: Bo-Karen, Dangerhair Wren, space witches, Ahwoka...
@MikeSandersonVideos
@MikeSandersonVideos 4 күн бұрын
​@@ChristianGabinoit will never happen. Ever.
@Carrie449-xyz
@Carrie449-xyz 4 күн бұрын
Zahn said he’s waiting by the phone. I sure wish they would include him so they get it right as the kinda didn’t in Ashoka.
@saberiandream316
@saberiandream316 4 күн бұрын
Filoni was too selfish to ask him for advice even after the marketing said he'd be consulted, lol.
@stormhawk31
@stormhawk31 4 күн бұрын
Sebastian Stan as Luke
@j90s56
@j90s56 4 күн бұрын
There's no other way. Lucas with all the ups and downs, was and is star wars. Everything else is just am attempt to mimic his vision, in the best of scenarios they get really close to his ideas, in the worst they desecrate his universe and use it as a platform to tell stories that dont share nothing with the franchise values and drama. Its been many years of bad projects. Its time to go back to the origin
@TheEldritchGod
@TheEldritchGod 4 күн бұрын
No. It is already too late.
@blawrence2496
@blawrence2496 3 күн бұрын
Bring back the GOAT to his sandbox..😢❤
@beagleboi1442
@beagleboi1442 4 күн бұрын
I'd say no people would still be hating on Lucas even if he created these said projects he planned even the Sequels.
@dereklopez9060
@dereklopez9060 4 күн бұрын
I really would like George Lucas to come back, but unfortunately, that's very big wishful thinking.
@theanonymouscritic1710
@theanonymouscritic1710 4 күн бұрын
Yeah, I agree.
@Bayard1503
@Bayard1503 4 күн бұрын
Nope, no. I mean if he would be willing to be an advisor and say yay or nay for different ideas... sure. But him thinking the story? No.
@hamiltoncox7651
@hamiltoncox7651 4 күн бұрын
Does everyone here forget how the fans rejoiced when Disney wrested control of Star Wars out of the hands of the creator of the prequel trilogy? That guy who made and then "ruined their childhood"? That Lucas guy? I thought not.
@caselleknoxiv589
@caselleknoxiv589 4 күн бұрын
He didn’t ruined my childhood, I 🥰 the Prequels but I hate TCW.
@kaleiohu
@kaleiohu 4 күн бұрын
I remember.
@jdstudios1912
@jdstudios1912 4 күн бұрын
Depends how old you are. I'm in my 20s so no, no I don't remember this because I loved the prequels and grew up with them and social media didn't exist at the time. As far as I was aware people loved the prequels as much as I did. Alot of old guard didn't like them initially but came around. As much as I love the prequels the dialogue was awful and there's no denying that but the story was always amazing to me.
@7thwheel
@7thwheel 4 күн бұрын
Not all fans. I had a baaaad feeling about this.
@michaellane5381
@michaellane5381 4 күн бұрын
Hard to remember what didn't happen, the hardcore fans who did so at least WATCHED the Prequels, hard to say they bothered with the sequels post 7.
@lbonn2282
@lbonn2282 4 күн бұрын
pretty sure we were all asking these same questions four years ago......
@bookerlee4752
@bookerlee4752 4 күн бұрын
They had the chance to listen to George but they didn't want to know. Now I think it's too late. Far too late! All the Star Wars I'll ever be interested in now is Lucas' Star Wars and Legends!
@bruulbrainsmasher1210
@bruulbrainsmasher1210 4 күн бұрын
Hey Thor, On the re-casting... Totally agree with your picks except for Leia. The girl from Andor in the antique store, she is the spitting image of Leia. Something that needs to be said is bring back the original guy for the lightsaber choreography.
@drdwaynecuster
@drdwaynecuster 3 күн бұрын
And ironically, the character's name even sounds like Leia. It's Kleya played by Elizabeth Dulau.
@mccsnackin
@mccsnackin 4 күн бұрын
There’s been a sad truth in all this ever since the filming of A New Hope, George’s ideas are only as good as his team of editors. You take away the constructive voices and you get the prequels. So I think yes you want George involved, but you need a collaboration of smart editors to filter his bad ideas.
@mccsnackin
@mccsnackin 4 күн бұрын
Disney did the worst possible thing, remove all oversight, give multiple different writers / directors creative control, different editing teams, and now not a single disney project feels cohesive at all.
@MikeSandersonVideos
@MikeSandersonVideos 4 күн бұрын
​@@mccsnackinyeah they didn't strike that perfect balance. The work ethic and hardship those OT guys did is unmatched
@kokroughtoss1257
@kokroughtoss1257 4 күн бұрын
While its a nice thought, I'm not sure if wants to deal with all the headaches that Star Wars has these days. He originally sold it off to not worry about it anymore. Him selling it off wasn't the issue. The issue was who he sold it to. I hope my statement ages like milk and he magically saves Star Wars but he ain't no magician.
@gpcovenant
@gpcovenant 4 күн бұрын
Jump the timeline a couple hundred years. Take his 7-9, rework it to be 10-12, ignore the ST, and market its his like crazy. It’s the only hope.
@petersanzen4106
@petersanzen4106 Күн бұрын
Hot take: Heor to the empire is very similiar to to the sequels. 1: new heroes that outshines the originals 2: somehow the Palpatine has returned 3: unknown super fleet re-emerges 3: unknown super enemy that wins because the author decided, explanation: he is smart...
@Markus-tt1px
@Markus-tt1px 4 күн бұрын
If they did this, it would get people excited but eventually when the fans don't like his ideas they will turn on him. That's what they did to the prequels.
@royaltutranch
@royaltutranch 4 күн бұрын
Retcon but not retconned story treatment: Create a story around Luke’s time at his Jedi Academy. It leads to the scene where *something* happens between him and Ben. Luke somehow(flashbacks, force ghosts, world between worlds, is confronted by Anakin and Yoda. Maybe even Ahsoka if a deep relationship between them has been established. The Disney trilogy and its consequences are laid out for Luke to see as he is scolded and becomes distraught about losing his way in the force. Snap back to the academy and Ben rolls over and Luke smiles at him and says “Let me tell you about your grandfather…”. It retcons without actually saying it, and those characters could still be available if wanted. A little Christmas Carol-ly maybe lol, but it is literally my head canon now to keep me sane.
@All_Good_Things
@All_Good_Things 4 күн бұрын
It's already to late
@qwefg3
@qwefg3 4 күн бұрын
Won't work. They already have plenty if people who can save Star Wars already working for them... Kathleen Kennedy just needs to stop firing them or enforcing her vision upon their work. I mean the 'best' shows for Star Wars are the ones she cared the least about. Which shows something... And one of the main problems.
@vetarlittorf1807
@vetarlittorf1807 4 күн бұрын
Hey Thor, I've been wondering about how a millennium of peace made the Jedi complacent and arrogant. The question is, what could they have done to prevent that from happening? It's often said that peace can lead to stagnation and that controlled chaos is needed to stay in shape, so to speak. But it would be absurd for the Jedi to allow evil into the galaxy just to keep themselves focused. So what exactly could they have done to maintain the humility and vigilance they had when they were at war with the Brotherhood of Darkness?
@GreaterGrievobeast55
@GreaterGrievobeast55 4 күн бұрын
Good question, I mean it's not like they completely rested on their Laurels that whole time. There were certainly outbreaks of trouble and violence on smaller levels within those thousands of years. On one hand you can argue it might've helped to get less involved in the government but that's likely because their responses to situations would be less developed.
@HighHeelKnight
@HighHeelKnight 4 күн бұрын
Lucas should stay far, far away because the chance to turn back was long ago. 😉 If he (or his treatments) comes back and his program/movie is great, then the success would be a pie in the face to Disney. If Lucas returns and the project fails, then it would be the final nail in the coffin for the franchise. Star Wars will never be truly gone, but Lucas is not The Chosen One to save Disney from darkness.
@chasadavis
@chasadavis 13 сағат бұрын
I agree with your recast in principle and setting our original trilogy characters into the mando timeline and that takes specific care from Filoni in prioritizing Luke and Leia vs Thrawn
@originaldarkwater
@originaldarkwater 4 күн бұрын
Lucas' sequels: I think Lucas is well-aware of the need for spectacle in a Star Wars film, but that part would probably be the last thing he'd flesh out, which is why that wouldn't have been in his drafts and maybe it feels like his sequels would have been all talk about symbiotic relationships, but the prequels tell me, there would still have been plenty of action even if it wasn't in his outlines. Also, we all know how awkward Lucas' dialog can be, and I think he knew it, too, since he had Michael Arndt working on a script even before Disney brought the franchise, so I'm pretty certain an good writer like Arndt wouldn't have let the exposition regarding the Whills and the true nature of the Force take over the movie too much. Finally, having a character like Han Solo be the audience's POV, telling Luke, "Look, I might have been wrong about the Force back then, but I'm tellin' ya, there ain't no microscopic bugs in control of MY life!" probably would have helped that along, too, so we have a character acknowledging the audience's own feelings that this is all a little hard to swallow.
@-AtomsPhere-
@-AtomsPhere- 4 күн бұрын
The ONLY way that I’d be interested in a sequel trilogy is through an animated version of Lucas story treatment. Anything else is kinda dumb and pointless to me.
@achaudhari101
@achaudhari101 4 күн бұрын
Animated like the Old Republic trailers?
@Daemonik
@Daemonik 4 күн бұрын
Lucas coming back now would no doubt create a lot of excitement initially. Then the leaks would begin. People would turn on Lucas - no matter what he did, people would not be happy. And it would die before it was born.
@namehereandthere
@namehereandthere 4 күн бұрын
Bingo! The angry mob doesn’t want Lucas’s sequels…they want sequels based on the EU books that Lucas was going to ignore anyway.
@KaiserMattTygore927
@KaiserMattTygore927 4 күн бұрын
I really don't have to compromise on this, because I know Disney will NEVER do what I want them to do. I have nothing to lose.
@perceivedvelocity9914
@perceivedvelocity9914 4 күн бұрын
Disney is currently trapped by the original movies. IMO they should do a massive time jump. Let's say a thousand years into the future. Tell a fresh story in the Star Wars universe. Every character is gone and the events of the movies are just legends. Everything that happened is cannon, nobody is recast.
@funkydiscogod
@funkydiscogod 4 күн бұрын
What would be the point in even calling it Star Wars if it's in such a different universe?
@MikeSandersonVideos
@MikeSandersonVideos 4 күн бұрын
​@@funkydiscogodbecause it's the same universe and it's supposedly not tethered to only one family and time period? Isn't that what all you prequel edge lords keep pushing?
@carrots4pigeons343
@carrots4pigeons343 4 күн бұрын
No compromise. There is no pleasing everyone. If it comes to undoing/rebooting/retconning the sequels then Kylo Ren said it best; "Let the past die, kill it if you have to."
@Jcarroz
@Jcarroz 4 күн бұрын
This might be a hot take, but Lucas is not the solution to future Star Wars. There are plenty of great Star Wars stories that he was not apart of. They need to find those people and let them craft a path forward… once they kill the sequels that is.
@MikeSandersonVideos
@MikeSandersonVideos 4 күн бұрын
Yeah agreed. Way too many people think GL is the key to SW. He thought of concepts, arguably not the most iconic looks or aesthetic. Just names and places, shifts in story and events. But it was other people and their craft that shaped this universe. Remember George only directed the first SW. And then the prequels. I don't think I want him in a directors chair again
@majorastorm
@majorastorm 3 күн бұрын
If they ever retcon the sequels. I think the best way of doing that is by following the Hyrule Hystoria in the Zelda games with each game is part of a certain timeline. You can easily do this based off of Ezra/Ashoka time in the world between world. This would be the catalyst for the new timeline; Heir to the empire. The Timeline the sequels happened could be based off of Ashoka Dying in the rebels series if Ezra didn't reach out and saved her which would of been the very first domino falling causing the first order
@Rhys-Lightning
@Rhys-Lightning 4 күн бұрын
The sequels and the final season of Game of Thrones can be corrected the same way: Luke/Bran "Wow. What a terrible vision. Better not let that happen"
@davidshi123
@davidshi123 4 күн бұрын
No. He's 80 years old. Whatever he would make, you still got the same problem after that.
@TobiTheNomad
@TobiTheNomad 4 күн бұрын
The guy is over 80 years old. The only thing Lucas can realistically do is just offer advice. He doesn't care about Star Wars anymore all that's left for him is his family. Disney had over 10 years to talk to him but they didn't. They thought they knew better
@lasercraft32
@lasercraft32 4 күн бұрын
I think this might be the earliest I've ever been to one of your videos. Genuinely surprised to see only 1 other comment.
@tw5035
@tw5035 2 күн бұрын
I’m fairly sure at this point that would be like seeing what Cameron’s dad (Ferris Bueller) could do for the Ferrari after it smashed through the glass and crashed into the woods below…
@WillieHoule
@WillieHoule 3 күн бұрын
I say use the world between world as a reason why the sequel doesn't happen. Because Ezra saved Ahsoka in rebel it did a "butterfly effect" and things are happening differently. (Grogu doesn't get captured by Gideon because Ahsoka help mando so they can't use his blood for example) Then from that point on you can just keep going in chronological order with the "mandoverse" and release content just like how the MCU use to do. Recast all the og actors and make them the central heroes of the new era
@JboBobpants
@JboBobpants 4 күн бұрын
Hey Thor, Since It's probably too late to retcon/remake the sequels since a ton of the og cast are dead or don't want to come back, and Disney won't ever admit they made a huge mistake, I think it would be a great Idea to have George come back and do his idea for the sequels as animated movies. That way they could recast voice roles and have it be very different from what they did originally. Disney could still show them in theaters too, like how George first released the Clones Wars movie. What do you think of this idea?
@vematsos
@vematsos 3 күн бұрын
Hey Thor. I agree that if they altered the timeline with the world between worlds, they would have to do it in a way where it didn’t seem like they could do it whenever they wanted to. The only way I see this happening is if changing the timeline so much causes the world between worlds to collapse, therefore you can’t go there anymore. Thoughts?
@terrythompson1873
@terrythompson1873 4 күн бұрын
The only main OT character I would do a casting call for would be Luke Skywalker. Sebastian Stan is 10yrs older than Billie Lourd. So the chemistry wouldn’t be there. But everybody else is just right for Han, Leia and Lando. Courtship to the theaters. Young Jedi Knights animated to Disney+. Then kickoff new sequel trilogy adapting the 25 year Galactic Cold War. Thrawn trilogy for ep7. Black Fleet Crisis for ep8. Thrawn duology for Ep9.
@darrengaroutte7744
@darrengaroutte7744 4 күн бұрын
If it were me, I'd just push all of Star Wars aside, go way back in the past and create a conflict for that long-forgotten era using our own history and/or mythology as a framework. I'd love to see a Star Wars style version of the Epic of Gilgamesh. A very basic layout for that could be a Jedi befriends a Sith or dark Jedi and the pair going on epic quests together only for the friend to eventually die which creates doubt in the Jedi's mind who then travels the edge of the galaxy to find the answers he seeks.
@stamaosbuf
@stamaosbuf 4 күн бұрын
Said this on the forums years ago before episode 7, i feel like the whole thing should of been about the father, the son, and the force ghost. We got something disney wanted instead, but they will fall back on georges trilogy to do 10 thru 12.
@danetnavern0565
@danetnavern0565 4 күн бұрын
A "Snyder Cut" of the Sequels would be an interesting sight to behold. I'd definitely watch it if it had good reviews.
@BigdogGaming-sm3lj
@BigdogGaming-sm3lj 4 күн бұрын
To those arrogant fans who are so hell bent on saying no because of their so called hatred of the prequels. They need to remember this. It was GL that made all of us into Star wars fans. He was the one who hired the actors and the directors of the original series.He was the one who push for better special effects in movies . He gave us a pop culture mindset of good and evil. Not everyone can create something that will capture the imagination of generations. He need to come back to finish the story.#redo the sequel trilogy with George Lucas at the helm.
@jjaramos
@jjaramos 4 күн бұрын
Yes, but he's also the one who sold Lucasfilm to Disney. Star Wars will never be what it once was, it's time to move on.
@aolive11
@aolive11 4 күн бұрын
Hey Thor, I know theres been a lot of talk about retconning the sequels, but what is the possibility of making What If movies/shows? Sort of like what Marvel did but a direct translation of Legends stories. That way if you hate the sequels you have an Elseworlds timeline you can be invested in, while sequel fans have the main canon they can enjoy. I’d love to hear your thoughts!
@cannabeastie
@cannabeastie 4 күн бұрын
First get rid of Kennedy, then make George an offer he can't refuse. He may not be the only one who could save Star Wars, but he is the best option available.
@d.k.9072
@d.k.9072 4 күн бұрын
A single use World between Worlds would need a really, *really* good explanation, otherwise it produces the same problem as the Holdo Maneuver: Other people (in Universe) will do their research and try to reproduce it, which will spell Doom for the canon.
@sterling7
@sterling7 3 күн бұрын
Even if Lucas was willing to come back, at this point, I think it's not unlike the Marvel casting of RDJ as Dr. Doom: it buys you one movie/property audience, largely out of curiosity, with little to no real guarantee of said audience holding fast unless it absolutely sticks the landing. It's a big galaxy out there. I think if "The Mandalorian" proved one thing, it's that there should be plenty of adventures to have in this universe without having to slavishly stick to the most identifiable characters and icons. You just need good writers, actors, and directors, without excessive interference, who are able to make them come to life.
@Makocat
@Makocat 4 күн бұрын
I personally think it's too late. No John Williams music. No legacy actors since they either, are no longer with us, are done with this franchise or have become unbearable people nobody likes. The only way to move forward is to never reference the sequels, recast legacy characters and use the 30 years prior to the sequels. But even then, people are done. I'll just stick to the things I liked so far and not worry about showing up on time for the new thing. The rush is gone. The interest has decreased. George coming back is a noveltt Not a solution. Stopping starwars altogether and just releasing merch wss a good solution maybe back when mandalorian was good. The movie and andor might be their last hurrah. They will never get to have a second chance at this. Not without the legacy cast and John Williams' score. They wasted it and now they'll face the consequences of it and the best part is none of us have to do anything. The only real solution is to just stop altogether. Even a reboot would be horrible. Lightning in a bottle kind of deal. They'll never remove this failure and people will just move on and forget. Forget to the point where interest is not renewed.
@jjaramos
@jjaramos 4 күн бұрын
I agree 100%, the damage is done and there's no way to undo it. It's time to move on.
@MikeSandersonVideos
@MikeSandersonVideos 4 күн бұрын
I think it's been said over and over, but I really think this will go down as the most catastrophic collapse of a franchise in pop culture. The power SW had, and I hate them, but even during the prequels, was so strong.
@MCsCreations
@MCsCreations 4 күн бұрын
Agreed about the new cast.
@PryorTravis
@PryorTravis 4 күн бұрын
I would suggest that when they made Kenobi, at that point it was already too late.
@jdstudios1912
@jdstudios1912 4 күн бұрын
I love George alot and respect him. But, he's old AF and has a young kid. He doesn't have the time to make more star wars and given how long it takes him I dno if he'd live to finish what he started.
@charlez7416
@charlez7416 4 күн бұрын
I think that Disney is willing to do such a thing, but I'm worried that's gonna open the gates to Retcon more stuff. What if Disney will decide they want Maul in the sequels? Boom, Rebels, not canon.
@chemacb
@chemacb 3 күн бұрын
If we had gotten Colin Trevorrow Ep. 9, I think people would feel way better about the sequels. Maybe they should just retcon that one movie. Then also do a thrawn trilogy just as a “legends” trilogy.
@marsy24-o6b
@marsy24-o6b 2 күн бұрын
Hey Thor, I think retconning the sequels is a bad idea not because they're good, but because to the general public, it convolutes and confuses what's real and what's not and turns star wars into "homework" and generally makes it feel less organized and legitimate. While hardcore fans and the younger generations understand reboots and different universes, I had hard time explaining where the mandalorian fit in to my Dad, the definition of a casual viewer. I just think it would be a really bad look to everyone but the main star wars community. I really think the best idea is to just ditch the skywalkers as a whole and build up essentially from the ground up and rely on goodwill and word of mouth from really good movies to rebuild. Plus, if it's disconnected from the general skywalker era, newcomers won't necessarily be bogged down with "catching up" on things. I dunno, as much as I'd love to see Lucas's vision, I just don't think it would be successful.
@monsieurcommissaire1628
@monsieurcommissaire1628 4 күн бұрын
"But anyone who ever had a heart They wouldn't turn around and break it And anyone whoever played a part No, they wouldn't turn around and hate it..." Intellect Property must be to Maker return... Regenerate... Remove poison; Restore Hope ?
@eds1942
@eds1942 3 күн бұрын
Agreed with all of that. Except, Lucas isn’t coming back. The man is 80 and wants to spend the time he has left with family. Filoni should bring Zahn into the writer’s room for his Mando-verse. And just use the World between Worlds to split the EU timeline from the Sequel timeline, via butterfly effect. But, leave it a little ambiguous as to which timeline Ahsoka take place. The people who like the Disney era are happy. The people that like the old EU are happy. There would be an established lore. While giving the Mando-verse (and their writers for other projects some room for their own thing.
@rakeshsspiceclub5554
@rakeshsspiceclub5554 4 күн бұрын
I think one of the things they’ll try is making a Vader Show They will probably abandon their own trilogy and try and set up a KOTOR/SWTOR era movie
@jayoungr
@jayoungr 4 күн бұрын
Ever since the sequels came out, I've been saying I want to see Lucas's version. Even if it's bad, I want to see what it is.
@EmmettFlo7
@EmmettFlo7 4 күн бұрын
If you pay attention to what QG actually says, midichloreans are not the force itself, but the biological mechanism by which lifeforms like humans are able to interact with the force, hence why it can be used to measure force sensitivity.
@grawman67
@grawman67 4 күн бұрын
I think so, yes. They should clean house with some of the ineffective employees and go to George
@DARTH-KTULU
@DARTH-KTULU 4 күн бұрын
Use the story George wrote, have Spielberg or someone come in to direct and punch up the dialogue. Peter Jackson? Del Toro? Someone of that caliber. Let George be executive producer and writer. Use the world between worlds to reset the timeline. Bring in mark Hamill’s ghost on the other side to prevent Palpatine’s plan, reset the timeline to just before Palpatine avoids death. The sequels never happen. Rey and even Kylo grow up to be different people. Recast the original characters and set it 10 years after ROTJ. Ewan and Hayden return as force ghosts, old Mark Hamill Luke fades out, a new Luke played by Sebastian Stan wakes up from his meditation having saved the Galaxy from the dreaded sequel trilogy.
@sonofasob1
@sonofasob1 3 күн бұрын
It's funny because to me disney's 3 movies they dubbed the finale of the Skywalker saga are one long holiday special. It's there but nothing is really being done with it because it doesn't make money, forget liking em those people who do tho don't spend enough disney's accountants/investors don't care if people "like" something loudly if the money doesn't support it.
@watcheri5742
@watcheri5742 4 күн бұрын
A retcon is the only thing that will bring me back at this point
@ecbrown6151
@ecbrown6151 3 күн бұрын
The best part of the sequel trilogy is that it made the prequel trilogy seem like Shakespeare. That’s it though
@OnlyOneKenobi
@OnlyOneKenobi 3 күн бұрын
Hey Thor, I don't think Lucas should come back... on principle. They weren't interested in his ideas. Like the man said himself... "When you break up with someone, rule number 1, *NO* phone calls. They made their own ship.... now they're gonna have to deal with the fact it's sinking, rapidly. 😏👌
@Empty00Eyes
@Empty00Eyes 4 күн бұрын
I like the solution you lay out here. I could live with that.
@Oscar-mh7ez
@Oscar-mh7ez 4 күн бұрын
It’s honestly not really an ultimatum if they want fans to be excited about new content going forward they have to acknowledge that they mishandled the story until then they will keep tripping on the same mistakes that got them here in the first place. It would be great if Lucas got one more crack at star wars even if it was an animated version of his sequel ideas. I just think at this point it seems like Disney has done as much as possible to try to separate themselves from what George created and the parts of the EU fans loved. I believe that disney doesn’t even care if an idea is good just that it makes money so its hard for true creativity to shine when all they care about is $.
@kaleiohu
@kaleiohu 4 күн бұрын
Other than marketing value, bringing back Lucas would bring nothing to the table in terms of quality. He made one good film and got a lot of help turning it into a good trilogy. When left unchecked the results were not great. His initial treatment of the sequel trilogy was about mitichlorians and hermit Luke. Lucas touching the canon again and especially any kind of sweeping retcon would just fracture the franchise even more. The only options they really have is either a long pause or a fresh start anywhere far far away from the current timeline.
@rizalhana-ck4zc
@rizalhana-ck4zc 4 күн бұрын
Its kind too late already...there damaged and ruined by Kathleen Kennedy in Lucasfilm..are to severe to repair...unless they say all episode7,8,9 are not cannon ...redone it with animation style..according to George Lucas story telling...
@kaleiohu
@kaleiohu 4 күн бұрын
Hey Thor, with all the talk of retcons, recasting, and redo-ing films. The issue with all those solutions would be dealing with the exact same time period we've been stuck in for almost half a century. Why can't the franchise and the fandom just try moving on now that the well's run dry? The current stink will just get on anything they try to connect directly. The sequels tried to build up a new cast but the crutch of legacy ended up overshadowing everything. The history of SW is eons long and a galaxy wide. I like Rey but couldn't care less about her new film, however I could still get hyped for something like an Old Republic movie.
@TobermoryIscarabaidX
@TobermoryIscarabaidX 4 күн бұрын
I’d forgive & forget if they did a world between worlds retconn. Lucas consult on the new sequel trilogy. Use his treatments. Filoni & favreau do the bulk of the work. Easy peesy.
@smashblaster1-up190
@smashblaster1-up190 4 күн бұрын
Even though I think it's too late already, I feel that George Lucas should get his hands back on his franchise since he's the only one who truly gets his own creation even if he's not present, his franchise should be a familypassed treasure for his family
@kaleiohu
@kaleiohu 4 күн бұрын
I don't think he ever got it fully either (his interviews bout it were always kinda detached) but I think he did earn the right to do whatever he wanted with it until he sold it. If he or his family ever got it back that wouldn't be the worst thing.
@draynah14
@draynah14 4 күн бұрын
I think Graham Hamilton would be a better fit for a young Luke Skywalker. I was shocked to see how much he resembled Hamill, even without the CGI.
@MikeSandersonVideos
@MikeSandersonVideos 4 күн бұрын
Is he the guy who did mo cap on Mandolorian as Luke? If so, I don't really get what everyone's seeing. That stand in guy looks nothing like Hamill but I've seen a few heads say he's the spitting image
@OtherWorldExplorers
@OtherWorldExplorers 4 күн бұрын
The only way to let a wound heal is to leave it alone. Give it 5 years with nothing going on and then come back to it.
@librapan8
@librapan8 4 күн бұрын
Exactly. ;) Good casting choice.
@MichaelS-n5g
@MichaelS-n5g 4 күн бұрын
And this point, I would rather watch a Jar-Jar feature than any project attached to Kathy's
@Paradox-es3bl
@Paradox-es3bl 4 күн бұрын
Most people would, as long as Darth Jar-Jar gets canonized.
@jdstudios1912
@jdstudios1912 4 күн бұрын
I will never stop loving jar jar, who else had double jump on Lego star wars?
@MikeSandersonVideos
@MikeSandersonVideos 4 күн бұрын
​@@jdstudios1912loving that character and how much it damaged the franchise because it featured in a SW lego game? Jesus this is the fanbase we're dealing with.
@revjirhcs
@revjirhcs 4 күн бұрын
Hey Thor, is a vader movie that is hunting down remaining Jedi after order 66 not the best way for Disney to restore interest in the Star Wars franchise.
@Prophetofthe8thLegion
@Prophetofthe8thLegion 4 күн бұрын
Look I know we would all love for George to return, but consider this. What would he actually do? Like one of his original plans for a sequel trilogy would be to bring back Darth maul, and while yes Darth maul is cool I just couldn’t see that working. Frankly and this is just my opinion against the will and choices of the creator so it doesn’t matter much but I feel that for StarWars to continue the timeline after return of the Jedi and the fall of the emperor the Sith should have been gone, yes the dark side should remain and always exist but I feel that StarWars shouldn’t fall into the same trap it’s been since almost the end of the original trilogy where it’s basically just been Jedi vs Sith but different era. And another thing, does George even want to continue StarWars? Like wasn’t the point of him selling it so that hey could work in his own personal projects, like I’m sure he still loves StarWars, it’s his baby after all but I’m not sure he even cares to really touch it anymore.
@kennywilson5422
@kennywilson5422 4 күн бұрын
That man is 80 years old. Let that man enjoy his retirement and his family.
@miragewizard
@miragewizard 4 күн бұрын
"Is George Lucas the key to saving Star Wars? Should Disney go to him before it's too late?" Define "too late." Are you asking is it "too late" to save Star Wars? Are you asking if it's "too late" to go to George since Disney already rejected his ideas? Or are you saying that Disney needs to give him a chance to do something with the franchise before he's simply not able to? George is responsible for this whole thing after all. I have absolutely no faith whatsoever in Disney being good stewards of this franchise.
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