Let's talk some "The Acolyte" (Episode 8) with Thor & Naboo

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[@DrKumkar]

When Qimir put on the helmet quickly when he sensed Vanestra.. I audibly laughed at the goofiness of a Sith apprentice scared of his mommy finding him.

[@BSM-vw6cf]

A true Sith would learn to mask his presence by now

[@bring-out]

Yeah he would see it as an opportunity to defeat his old master. This is Disney though, so men are intimidated by women.

[@BLACKandZEN]

He isn't a Sith, he is just a darkside user.

[@BSM-vw6cf]

@@BLACKandZEN he said he's a Sith

[@BLACKandZEN]

@@BSM-vw6cf when did he say he was a sith? I recall him saying " a jedi like you might call me , sith"

[@shoefury]

I love hearing ep. 8 review with Naboo because Thor is laughing instead of sounding despondent and bummed out like in his own review.

[@andredavis7018]

“It isn’t cheating if you’re a vergence” lol 😂

[@ArtooDetour]

Can I get Qimir to wipe my memory of The Acolyte?

[@danm2966]

Me next

[@charleshartley9597]

Also, Naboo is on fire in this video! Backward-talking Yoda is amazing "yeah, no one knows what he's saying"

[@hor1zon488]

"It's not cheating when you're a Virgence" LMAO 😂

[@RyuShinkuuHadoken]

It turns out the Acolyte was the homesick boi who just wanted to go home after 7 weeks of camping in the woods.

[@Sam_T2000]

relatable 👍

[@NHGorman]

"Don't make sense. We're talking about the Acolyte," was a fantastic comment. About choked from laughing.

[@Loki_Yogi]

It's actually quite entertaining watching some other YT channels twist themselves into knots attempting to make sense of this show. LOVE the discussion guys. 🙏

[@charger9105]

I have simply excised Acolyte from the Star Wars part of my brain. It bests exists by not existing.

[@losttheproject6711]

I've simply memory wiped the last 7 weeks. 🫳 😵‍💫 😂

[@DarthKastos]

That’s the most useful Force ability for this kind of situations

[@btr3k]

Unfortunately, memory wiping, while only taking a few seconds, seems to turn you into an idiot: "What did you think of that show Acolyte?" "... Acolyte?" "Yeah, you know, Star Wars." "... Star Wars?" "The show on Disney Plus!" "... Disney Plus?" "What happened to you, was your memory wiped?" "... Memory wiped?"

[@Kevin_Street]

Before too long I imagine we'll all do the same. You're just ahead of the pack.

[@MichaelHauri]

This is the funniest video you guys have ever made! 😂😂😂

[@bluereign029]

Naboo was in rare form today lol😅😅

[@sailornaboo5725]

I have no idea why but I wanna ride that train!

[@isblis]

I can hear my tears in your laughter, especially the Darth Nepo conversation, and it's very therapeutic. Thank you for that 😂

[@Brewsy92]

For the lightsabers, you can clearly tell they're a plastic blade with lights under them. They look terrible in daylight, hence why a majority of scenes from more recent shows (obi wan, Ahsoka) are shot in nighttime scenes. In either lighting environment, while I think the practical lighting looks great, they really need to CGI them to make them look like prequel/OT blades, they need to look like a "beam of light" not an "illuminated plastic blade" imo

[@daisyblossomflowerchild9702]

I agree with you about the current lightsabers looking like tubes with lights inside. In the OT, and I believe in the PT as well, when a lightsaber fight was shot, the actors used white plastic blades so they could see where the saber was irl and to feel when they clashed. The beautiful colours were added by ILM in post. If the modern actors need to see the colour of their blade, to channel their inner Sith or Jedi, give them the appropriate colour plastic blade and add the same lightsaber effects from the OT in post. At 22.5m an episode and with not all episodes containing lit lightsabers, I'm sure the budget could have been found to do the lightsaber CGI in post again. MTFBWY, always.

[@isthatjackson]

Totally agree

[@Brewsy92]

@@daisyblossomflowerchild9702 I totally get that "were used to the way they looked" and that's a potential bias. I honestly DO like the way we see the practical light, either on the actor or in the environment from the new sabers. But the vfx from PT/OT, even though we saw reflections of the sabers on say like, the floor in naboo, but not exactly the "real world lighting" from the new sabers, made them feel... Magical? Like, they weren't just beams of light the way they feel now. The hazy look of the vfx / PT / OT sabers was honestly perfect, so I'd be absolutely in favor of them using the current sabers to get the practical lighting, but editing them in post to make them look more like how they were before "practical sabers" were invented.

[@daisyblossomflowerchild9702]

@Brewsy92 Brilliant. I love your idea of combining the current practical sabers for lighting effects on the actors and then adding the CGI fx of the OG lightsabers. You are correct that seeing the colourful lights of each saber reflected on physical objects or characters does enhance scenes. I acknowledge my bias. I saw Luke ignite his father's lightsaber while watching Star Wars as a teenager in the theater with dad in 1977. I'm old and a bit set in ways at times. However, I can acknowledge when a new way of doing things would produce a superior outcome. :) MTFBWY, always. :)

[@butcherpete2286]

A classic case of if it ain't broke, don't fix it. It's worked for almost 50 years. No need to change it.

[@Kilan80]

This was the funniest episode I've listened to. The chemistry was on point

[@codymacaulay1435]

Turns out the real treasure was the Jedi we slaughtered along the way

[@atoth62]

Well, when you get a famous, big name actor like Yoda, you obviously can't use him too much. His salary would eat up all the budget.

[@KS-cz9qc]

The retirement estate on Dagobah, pay for itself, it does not 😂

[@daisyblossomflowerchild9702]

Can you imagine the cost of things an actor such as Yoda would demand in his trailer. Recreating Yoda's home on Dagoba inside a modern trailer, including the fire retardant walls, ceiling, and flooring for his cooking needs, would just be astronomical. ;) MTFBWY, always. :)

[@stephenwillis2751]

True! A small indie project like this could never afford him on the shoestring budget they're working with

[@achaudhari101]

You do realize that the voice actors for him are retired right?

[@jaxsonburch-eo1vz]

@@achaudhari101 Is that supposed to matter?

[@macsmith2013]

I feel bad for Lee Jung-jae, Manny Jacinto and Dafne Keen, all more than decent actors, and hope this pos of a show won't tank their carees too much. Yaas Queen Amandla Stenberg can go twerk rocks as far as I'm concerned.

[@NisGaarde]

If there's any consolation for Disney and Star Wars brand integrity it's that not a lot of people actually watched this. I think they should really consider just giving it the "Willow treatment". Meaning, a complete ERASE from existence.

[@achaudhari101]

Never go full Orwellian unless the brain damage is strong in you. Willow should have never been erased to begin with.

[@JimTempleman]

Yoda looked old because the puppet, they pulled out of the storage bin, was old.

[@Sam_T2000]

Yoda died when he was 900 years old… if you take that to mean he lives ten years longer than humans, he’d still be about “75.” but yea… they probably used the puppet from _The Last Jedi._ …also, Grogu was 50 in the first season of _Mando…_ so that would make him 5 in human years, and but he still can’t talk 😑

[@JimTempleman]

@@Sam_T2000 Regarding Grogu. Technically its know as neoteny, a long childhood. More time to develop the Force it is!

[@joeschnoebelen2863]

Who knew Magneto's helmet also protected him from getting probed by aliens? 😂😂😂

[@DarthKastos]

Mae’s personality: Uno Reverse card OSHA’s personality: Uno +4 card

[@MCsCreations]

I think Yoda spent the last 50 years in the bacta tank. It's the only explanation.

[@charleshartley9597]

Agree with Thor, the Senate angle needed to be developed so we have a sense of danger or the stakes with a possible official investigation.

[@IStillJustLikeCats]

This stuff that was done in this one season easily could have been fleshed out into three seasons, or at least two and a half and then add more to the story. Flesh out the flashback episodes for season 1 and end it with Sol starting Osha's training. Season two starts off with Osha having left, and build up and flesh out the other characters and the setting for an episode or two before introducing the murder subplot and also illustrate the council having its problems with the senate as well. Season three fleshes out the rest of the story and gets us to a satisfactory conclusion where everything gets wrapped up nicely. You can also bypass any prequel issues by not including anyone from those movies and also setting it way far away of the outskirts of where the Jedi are prominent in the galaxy. Everything gets hushed because the problem was taken cared of and solved in a satisfactory way in which the Jedi are still needed to watch over things and this further proves it. They just stay away from that area because at the end of the day, things happened because of miscommunication and what not and there being no need for them to be there anymore.

[@macwelch8599]

If the Andor team was in charge of this series, good God would the writing be so good

[@JoRoq1]

If the Andor team was in charge, it would have been an entirely different story.

[@macwelch8599]

@@JoRoq1 indeed

[@jaxsonburch-eo1vz]

Yo imagine a Thrawn tv series or movie showing his rise up the ranks of the empire written with the quality of Andor…😢

[@macwelch8599]

@@jaxsonburch-eo1vz that sounds godly

[@sparkycjs]

@@jaxsonburch-eo1vz now that, I'd watch. Next Gilroy project, please! In fact the sequel trilogy should have been Heir To The Empire.

[@fr.andygutierrez5356]

I move that we have Naboo in some capacity on every video 🙋🏻‍♂️

[@GeorgeChacon2112]

I like that there are so many justifications and caviots that have to be made when watching this show. Why can't a show just be made with great writing and coherent story?

[@zengamer21]

At least we have House of the Dragon. That show is excellent in every way.

[@GeorgeChacon2112]

@@zengamer21 agreed.

[@silverscion2144]

It turns out the real acolyte was the good-turned-evil twin vergence clone we met along the way.

[@tomlewis4205]

Naboo makes this hella-funny!😂

[@JackQSmith]

We usually get subtitles when it's a key plot point and the POV character understands the alien even if he/she's not speaking it himself/herself. If there's no real POV character present and they're setting up a scene with a bit of dialogue they'll give subtitles. It's when one or more POV characters are present who don't understand the alien that we usually don't get subtitles. Or if there's someone there to translate the gist for the POV character(s) then we also don't tend to get subtitles either but we find out what was said when the POV characters do. I'm sure there's been exceptions to all of that but that tends to be the trend from my observation.

[@whisperedflame6952]

The real mystery of this show is how the hell anything makes sense.

[@greggstricke]

OMG 100% on point with Bazil...WTF is he doing?

[@lucasgeurts6068]

The power of one, trained by Manny! 😂

[@nastyfyme]

Oooooooh... So that's what it means 🤣

[@rector0455]

There's two of them lol

[@NovaBushido]

OMG I realised why Basil did that to Sol's ship, because he has a thing for pip, and didn't want him to get hurt... If that's the real reason why we saw him so interested in Pip those previous episodes, this show is beyond idiotic.

[@JoRoq1]

They did it. They finally made a worse love story than Twilight.

[@bring-out]

The droid?

[@jayhartRIC]

Oh wow 😂

[@ericmartinez2584]

😮

[@jmahcs]

😂bee-yot-ch. Thanks to both of you, I had a good laugh.

[@davidracek3051]

i nearly died laughing great review

[@kybris87]

now with the acolyte, star wars has finally reached the abysmal depths of star trek discovery, which came out about 7 years ago. in retrospect, this was only a question of time. i think it takes a VERY special kind of stupid to fail in such a way. i thought i was hardened by STDis, but such impudence still hurts badly. i once loved both franchises.

[@achaudhari101]

Neither are ruined like that especially with Star Trek where people gushed over Picard’s last season.

[@eskewroberts7663]

Naboo: At least they tried Lmao

[@sparkycjs]

We don't know Qymir's full name... Bet it's SKYWALKER 😮😂

[@KingDodango]

They'll show the twins somehow both giving birth to Qimir's daughter: Shmi.

[@sparkycjs]

@@KingDodango or to Shmi's father 🤔

[@doubleupload5620]

Given the chance Lesley would make smiley and whatever twin is with him be the grandparents or great grandparents of Anakin

[@sparkycjs]

Ooo I wonder if his name is.... Qymir SKYWALKER 😮😂

[@feonjun]

Going back to Ep 7, they could had added context 'Mother' turned into the smoke creature by including a few lines. For example, having her say, *_"I will not allowed the Jedi take my children. I will destroy you."_* At least, that would be justifiable motivation for Sol to attack her in self-defense. Another way they could have is to maybe include some outside forces manipulating the Jedi to act irrationally.

[@Jeroogalo]

That whole part at the end felt rushed and not believable. What incentive does Osha have to go with Qimir? I get Sol betrayed her and it pushed her to the Dark Side, but that doesn't mean she's obligated to go with Qimir who is a murderer. Just run off with your sister? If she was basically sacrificing herself to free Mae from Qimir, then why is Mae okay with Osha being left with him while her memory gets wiped? Why is Osha okay with Mae's memory getting wiped and being captured by the Jedi? Why is she getting romantically involved with a monster just because she felt betrayed by Sol?! Wild

[@khal7702]

lightsabers do look off

[@rector0455]

Because they're not lightsabers, they're Disney Moodsabers.

[@daisyblossomflowerchild9702]

I owned several mood rings in the 70s. I don't need a lightsaber to look like cheap jewelry from the 70s. I would like lightsabers to look like the elegant weapons they were in the 70s & 80s. MTFBWY, always. :)

[@rector0455]

12:54 Yeah, I know this show has like 500 other much bigger problems to addeess but... Is that the crest of the Rebellion on her shoulders in that dress? Because thats what it looks like...

[@matthewgrant2973]

Might be republic not too sure

[@rector0455]

@@matthewgrant2973 the Republic insignia is a circular, spoked bicycle wheel-like design similar to the Imperial insignia though so it's not that.

[@verazollinger6862]

I found almost no answers here... Same in Ashoka though, but we were promised complete story

[@Dr.Gehrig]

Amazing. Well done. I loved all of your reviews and especially this one that incorporates a more casual perspective.

[@wilhud]

I think Basil sabotaged the ship because he sensed Sol's actual feelings in the moment and that he was going to try and kill Mae. However, it was not conveyed well at all, just like many things in the Acolyte, and actually made no sense. Why would Sol suddenly feel the need to kill her? Why would his character ever feel the need to kill someone who was not a physical threat to himself or others in his group? Had she said that she was going to go and kill Osha, then okay...maybe then it would have been a justified thing to do. But it made zero sense in the context they put it in. Sol in the last two episodes became some hyper emotional, ultra selfish, blubbering fool who was completely engulfed in self pity. Made zero sense. I liked his character until they completely changed his character in the end to fit their narrative of Jedi bad.

[@Valen-mh9fh]

Yoda on sabbatical could* be a fun light-hearted comedy for kids where Yoda travels the galaxy helping solve problems. * If it isn't made by Disney.

[@salsal435]

Star Wars content used to launch careers, now it is a burden for actors.

[@jacksparrow9227]

He's clearly a gopher

[@Sam_T2000]

what if he’s the real Sith? Darth Gophus?

[@bayushiteishiru6291]

The only good was Lee Jung-jae acting. Not his role, just his acting. That's it.

[@rector0455]

It just makes me sad dude like imagine if this guy got a good character in a decent series? Why does this series treat men who have done nothing wrong as if they deserve deth? _bratty teen Jedi wants to go home, doesn't like scanning grass w/a metal detector instead of playing PS69._ Lesbey: Oh end urself. _asian dude acts in self defense to protect himself, the daughter and his Jedi from Sith smoke monster witch and her coven which already tried to mind control the Jedi to attack one another.._ Lesbey: he deserves deth and he knows it! WAT?! This show feels like it was written by a misandrist with a very warped sense of morality.

[@JoRoq1]

Such a shame that he put so much effort into the role, even learning to speak English, only for it to be garbage material. Of all the cast, he is most deserving of better.

[@Deuteromis]

He acted like a real Jedi, until ep7...

[@joshbourne9679]

I’m with Naboo I read/watch garbage because I need answers. It’s a stupid thing but I get wrapped up into seasons and seasons or books and books because I need to know everything. I usually regret it though

[@perkinator13]

There has been a lot of terrible Star Wars under Disney, a long with a few good things, but this series baffled me with how terrible it was the entire time. I just couldn’t believe it. I still can’t believe it. How on earth do you make something so terrible with putting any effort at all in to something. It’s like the script was written by an AI and never proof read

[@kybris87]

this is star trek discovery all over again

[@achaudhari101]

So why do I see people wanting AI to replace the “Wokesters” in Hollywood?

[@captainDJ87]

​@@achaudhari101 AI is still more competent

[@MaxRamos8]

I knew this last episode would be abysmal based on her zoom interview on Star Wars Explained. She literslly said, "Star Wars is about the betrayal of the father"

[@skepticalsmurf]

Yoda: "No sense does this make!!!" ; )

[@GregScholfield]

Sailor Naboo needs to be on FNT this week 😂

[@achaudhari101]

No. I don’t want these two to be anywhere near that Junkie’s channel.

[@Mhovorka7714]

@@achaudhari101nobody cares what you want bro

[@achaudhari101]

@@Mhovorka7714 I won’t stop her if she wants but that Gary isn’t honest.

[@JimTempleman]

Did you ever hear the tragedy of Darth Basil the rodent?

[@superpael]

I like lady thors points.

[@roleplayer5564]

If this gets a season 2, Koral will be revealed as Plagueis

[@Jeroogalo]

They made the Jedi bad Jedi and the Sith Grey Sith so we'd feel sympathy for them. They forget George's number one rule, Star Wars is for kids. What is the lesson you're trying to teach kids here by making the good guys awful and the bad guys compassionate and misunderstood oppressed people we should feel sympathetic for?

[@ricardodelrivero8432]

If you can change lightsaber color: Why didn't luke's green lightsaber turned red when Vader used it or why Vader's lightsaber remain red in the emperor's chambers? Now if anything ruins canon is going to be Acolyte's blame

[@achaudhari101]

Because they didn’t pour all of their hatred?

[@fredlusyk6741]

...since "The Force Is Female" i assumed Basil was a Beaver...? ...at The End of TFA, we see Jake Skywalker... ...at The End of "The ACOLYTE" we see Yoda Head[land]... ...again, it's lyke Bunta Tree, they rhyme... 👽 🖖 🤖 ...Answer, or Answer not, there is no "they tried"...

[@caseyjp1]

It's not cheating when you're a 'Vergence'. -ohmygod. lmao.

[@HistoryandHeadlines]

It will be interesting to see what Disney decides to do from here.

[@tbabbittt]

Identical twins always come from one egg.

[@rector0455]

Yeah? And how do identical twins start out as fraternal twins as kids?

[@tbabbittt]

@@rector0455 I said identical and not fraternal those are separate things. Identical twins happen when the egg first divides and the two cells don't stick together. Fraternal twins happen when two separate eggs are released at the same time and both are fertilized.

[@tbabbittt]

@@rector0455 I think I mean paternal twins. Fraternal means from the same mother.

[@rector0455]

​@@tbabbitttBut as kids in this show they're clearly not identical twins, and then later they become identical twins as adults. So how tf does that happen?

[@JoRoq1]

@@rector0455 That’s most likely from having to cast the roles within the child labor regulations and union rules. It’s more than double the work to have one person portray two characters that interact, which would have severely cut how much filming they could do in a single day with a child and thus extended out the time they would have to spend on principal shooting. Plus needing at least one physically similar stand-in for the behind-the-back camera angles. Of all the production problems in this show, this is the most easily understood and least important.

[@eddavis389]

Jedi don't sense anything in the Force...until the plot requires them to.

[@jayhartRIC]

I thought the joke about Yoda wasn’t in the budget was a joke like Yoda was an A list actor that would demand a huge salary

[@jwales82]

Great video from thor and naboo

[@JimTempleman]

Like a Vergence, touched by the Force for the very first time,

[@jasonmcewen436]

Do you think they would do Plagueis=Master, Vernestra=Apprentice, Qimir=Acolyte #1 who is looking for an apprentice to move up the rankings? The whole thing is such a convoluted mess.

[@jkvam]

16:15: "It's not cheating when you're a vergence." Best line to come of this show. 🌟

[@joaoborges6851]

Basil clearly understood that Sol was a menace and did something about it. A true hero!

[@sundrelstriker7513]

I was questioning why he didnt just wipe himself from her mind. Nothing about Osha in her head would have lead her to be used to find her. Mae new what planet qimir was stationed on....so why not just wipe himself from her

[@JoRoq1]

Why would any character do something actually logical at that point?

[@Brandon-yy5cc]

“There is no good or evil. There is only power and those too weak to use it.” -Voldemort

[@sailornaboo5725]

Shhhh we dare not speak his name!

[@Kevin_Street]

Excellent recap and review! I really enjoy hearing what you two have to say about this show. I think the scene where Mae is willingly left behind makes more sense if you look at it the way the writers apparently do. For them suffering (or oppression by another) equals morality. The more oppressed you are, the more moral and worthwhile you become. Up to now the assumption is that Mae is the more oppressed one, because she lost her family and had to survive as an orphan before falling into the hands of Qimir. But in this episode we learn (or I think we're supposed to learn) that Osha is the more oppressed one, since she had to live trapped within Sol's lies. That scene where she goes all red-lightsaber and chokes Sol to death is supposed to be read as justified rage, where Osha finally connects with the anger inside of her instead of trying to suppress it. Mae sees how much her twin is suffering and concludes that Osha deserves a second chance more than she does, so she volunteers to be memory wiped and left behind.

[@RobSassi]

lmao the Bazil discourse cracks me up.. I just see his angry little face 😂😂😂

[@jacobleroux96]

Yoda was on vacation with Yaddle making Grogu

[@erikperez8842]

I like how our expectations for the finale were already so low, and it still somehow turned out to be worse than we expected

[@jcrazy9008]

16:15 😂😂😂😂😂 they are 1 person sooooo not cheating checks out lmao

[@nichlaschristensson1055]

Almost already forgotten about this series. It really didn't give much, it's like it never happened

[@creativeglowltd]

You folks were on fire, thank you

[@istari0]

I think there should be a Meme Monday devoted to skewering The Acolyte.

[@LumVaughan]

Another unanswered question -- it looks like Qimir's helmet is 'home made' and not equipped with any electronics, so how did he modulate his voice? There were so many stupid plot decisions. The end decision by Mae to allow her memory to be wiped and then get arrested by the Jedi had to be the stupidest thing I ever saw. Why? Was she afraid she'd get into a Menage a trois with her sister and Qimir? That would certainly be darkside! Osha wants to be trained by Qimir but would that really even be necessary as she was trained by the Jedi and she already had the Force choke thing down pat. Hell, just use your Jedi moves but 'put some feeling into it' and let your anger and rage flow through your moves. I'm sure she would be awesome as all female force users in SW, even those never formally trained yet (like Rey in TFA) are skilled and powerful fighters.

[@jcrazy9008]

Man here I also agree The devil wears prada is such a good movie

[@johnnychatman4762]

The acolyte is part of the legends comic that didn’t release lmaoooo

[@jon8234]

You know its bad when not even comics take your idea 😬😬😬 you seen what they're doing to spider an recently?

[@isaacfranco5059]

I am genuinely afraid they get a second season and screw up what Luceno told us about Plagueis in his novel

[@droid1342]

Hey Thor: Oh man Thor, hearing you and your wife genuinely break out in laughter made my day. Perhaps the only saving grace of the show is r laughter it brought, probably not what they were going for. Keep up the great analysis. Also I'm still interested to hear your opinion on the idea of doing the Darth plagueis novel as an animated series, thoughts?

[@newhappiness4410]

Didn’t Qimir want to kill Mai in episode 5 for leaving him

[@paulemge9156]

The most damning thing about this review is how much Thor and Naboo where laughing about the story etc. This was bad.

[@Deuteromis]

You seen the ending to In the Mouth of Madness? I picture that's the type of laughter they are doing.

[@americanhero1234]

Name the person who never uses a light saber in this show😂😂😂

[@NoBreakz]

The point about the Jedi being flawed is to portray that they gave into fear And that led to their downfall

[@Jake-dm4rk]

The way sol died was just demoralizing though. For a character people liked the most or compared to qui gon, his death like that was basically if iago from Aladin killed sultan when he stuffed the crackers in his mouth. He wasn't a perfect guy but he deserves a better death. This was like your kid you adopted killing you because you saved them from a broken house hold.

[@FormerlyDuck2]

You should not be able to bleed a crystal while it's still in the hilt. That would absolutely damage the lightsaber. And it's way less cool then scenes like Dagan Gera's bleeding or Vader's bleeding.

[@sparkycjs]

Nothing happened. Nothing was resolved. Qymir starts and finishes with Mae / Osha as his buddy (same person). The Jedi who fought with the witches got killed, Venestra covered it up, that's it. We don't know who Qymir is or why he's a Sith. We don't know where Osha / Mae came from. The whole stupid plot is just going round in a big pointless circle ending up where you started. Trash!

[@juanbonilla1006]

This

[@JoRoq1]

Like water circling the toilet bowl.

[@Sam_T2000]

why did they shift the scenes on Coruscant to the ancillary Jedi office building all the sudden, in the final episode? the one with blue and purple walls?

[@anovaguy]

Mindbogglingly bad script. How did it make it past pre-production? 😢

[@JoRoq1]

Even worse, this is the result of at least two major rewrites and reshoots (following bad test audience reactions).

[@Deuteromis]

​@@JoRoq1And still they went with this version...

[@rickbase833]

Answer: Kathleen Kennedy

[@qwefg3]

That should worry you as it implies the original scripts were somehow even worse.

[@anovaguy]

@@JoRoq1 unfathomable, the current script reads like something I produced overnight in high school. I would like to see what came before!

[@nicholaswarman1597]

Are we surprised that much of the issue with the series is the executive producer's wife getting an outsize role?

[@robcollins1603]

Clearly Bazil was the comic relief character but was cut from it as it was tonally wrong when they upped the sith and the killing. They excised as much as they could but they had to leave the bits where he changed the plot (pip hard reset and sabotaging sol’s ship). They realised that it made no sense but couldn’t not have it in.

[@jkvam]

We didn't even need comic relief because it was unintentionally funny so often by itself.

[@jayenlow1191]

Correct me if I'm wrong but weren't the lightsabers in the prequels, or at least in Revenge Of The Sith, a lot thinner than the ones Disney uses. I think the blade part of the props were thinner compared to the ones you see in something like the Last Jedi behind the scenes.

[@Imhotep397]

The Jedi are the X-Men of the Star Wars Universe.