Thousand Sons Vs Space Wolves - 10th Edition Battle Report

Warhammer 40k 10th Edition 2000pts Battle Report: Space Wolves vs Thousand Sons
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[@Ulfhednir9]

Aww love the bromance :) great batrep guys. FOR RUSS AND THE ALL-FATHER!!!

[@WarThunder-zt4xw]

Maybe a little bit picky but, I would have liked the terrain adjusted to the screen so that it’s easier to see down streets. Maybe some more overhead shots too.

[@keithclark6724]

New to 40k and your videos are wicked. Only criticism is the camera angle of the board, sometimes couldn't see much. Great production value overall.

[@VanguardTactics]

Thank you for the support!! And constructive feedback!

[@Benjamin-xv9le]

@@VanguardTactics would be nice to have the overhead camera in the corner all the time.

[@MarkAndTerra]

Story of the Space Wolves index: "Well I wanted to (do this cool thing), but the rules wouldn't let me." Repeated several times this battle report.

[@powerhousewargaming]

Great format, much better than lives streams. More of these please

[@VanguardTactics]

More to come! Just takes a lot more time!!

[@powerhousewargaming]

@VanguardTactics that's awesome. You can see there is a lot work going into editing and more. But it's definitely worth it. Easy to follow at home.

[@charliegilb1980]

I am new to 40k and this is the first Vanguard Tactics battle report I have watched. Y'all do a great job of explaining the rolls you are making and walking through all the rules. This has been hugely instructive and still a ton of fun to watch. Love the format.

[@jamessouth243]

More battle reports like this - fantastic ! Well done Jake !

[@MyNameSZorG]

like this format guys. good rep

[@Jaramaqc]

Thank you guys for this very didactic battlerep, I really appreciate it. I do not often watch from start to finish but I did here!

[@DinoCopRulezTheWORLD]

34:00 deadly demise reaction is cut at the perfect moment 😂😂😂

[@takogames9552]

New to 40k, I love your Space wolves :O Would love to have the skill and knowledge to paint them like that! Thanks for your great videos

[@mattiasgamin3891]

This is such a great format! 🤗 You have come along way with your reports.

[@kishigo]

Great game, though Warp sight was used in this game a bit wrong, rather than selecting a unit and they get [indirect fire] and [ignore cover], you need to use it on a [psyker] unit, you then choose an enemy unit VISABLE to the [psyker] unit you picked, then until the end of the phase, any models with the [psyker] keyword get [indirect fire] and [ignore cover] with [psychic] attacks against the enemy unit picked.

[@iTxip]

After the first dreadnought shot and killed 2 or 3 rubrics, removing the ones visible would have made the unit not targetable by the second redemptor that was by far the most damaging of the 2

[@alistairmacrae4993]

Yeah I was thinking this too

[@fulldrawpainting]

Loved the format, clean, detailed and slow enough for me to follow along. The addition of rules in the corner was very much welcomed 😂

[@Matthewsadlerkeen]

If 40k was daytime tv 😂 love it

[@andrewjohnson4816]

Super fun watch! Thanks guys!

[@MrAtemel]

Please, more games like this! Brilliant video, all the explaining whats going on is really helpful for me as someone trying to get into this game. Great production value as well!

[@chrisfahnestock]

Just found this video…….. stoic Stephen playing space wolves. Just a perfect video 👍💯

[@stanberry6798]

Just dropped in the comments to remind everyone that Magnus did nothing wrong and the Space Furries had it coming.

[@RBadel1]

I really love this format 👍 More please!

[@mattheselstermann4918]

Does the Soulreaper Canon get Warpsight? I don't think it is an Inferno Weapon, so no Psy and thus nothing of the other stuff.

[@UnkaStunka]

Thanks for the report! I have watched alot of 10th battle reports and it definitely feels to me like something is missing. There is absolutely no reason to take anything else than absolut killing power. Feels very dry and not at all cinematic. Im going to have my first 10th in a few days I really hope I feel different about it after I tried it myself. Cheers!

[@CutronaSalvatore]

Better try yourself, however I feel GW hyped 10th way more than actual game worth.

[@UnkaStunka]

@@CutronaSalvatore I have tried I will try again if they do a huge rewrite, this beta version is not for competitive games.

[@CutronaSalvatore]

@@UnkaStunka if you are looking for a competitive game, I suggest you look at A Song of Ice and Fire miniature game.

[@UnkaStunka]

@@CutronaSalvatore thank's I'll check it out

[@Jmccu71]

Love the video, only criticism is needs more above the table shots. Preferably anytime something has impacted the board state so its more visual.

[@ethanrattle4848]

I just played last night against one of your coaches called Paul and his thousand sons with my custodes! It was a close one, but he pulled ahead in the end. It ended 59-73.

[@keithjackson8059]

Great Batrep! I loved playing wulfen when they were released but yeah they are certainly in the back seats now...one thing to rem though is that when they die they still get to fight on a 4+(if they avent fought yet)..not that it would have made much difference in your fight.

[@YungBapacito]

bought wulden 2 weeks before the release of 10th 🥲

[@mikehand8993]

Switch the wulfen for Hounds of Morkai. Makes no sense to take wulfen with that damage profile and 0 OC.

[@mikehand8993]

Also, why not charge Ragnar into the scarab if he’s just going to get shot to ribbons on the next turn.

[@davidcox6454]

I feel like people just like Wulfen.

[@MarkAndTerra]

@@davidcox6454 Everyone has the models from previous edition(s) when they were good.

[@Jimmy-pf7kr]

5.25.... pure gold 😂😂

[@WhatsHisName666]

Is oath of moment too good? Seems wild when interacting with devastating wounds. Maybe oath should only be reroll failed hits wounds so you cant fish for dev wounds 🤔

[@lite165]

nice game you had fun :D

[@NeilMc75]

The celebration at the end! 🙌 loved it!

[@GeekPrideTV]

It warms my heart to see spacewolves ❤😢

[@kirvesuk6908]

Well edited and easy to follow, very good.

[@Zalintis]

Woof! Deadly demise triggering on a 6 the getting 2 6's on the D6 mortals was BRUTAL

[@dementiamaster12]

We played a drinking game were we had a drink every time the world wolf was said. 3 were dead by the 5th minute

[@joshuamortimer6230]

First time watching, was very impressive thank you. Just wondered where the battlefield mat is from?

[@VanguardTactics]

The battle mat is from Frontline Gaming!

[@NameName2.0]

Woo! Play On brought me the joy of Stephan! Let's see what's else you guys got :D

[@iTxip]

Wow that was a waste of ahrimans free cabal ritual

[@jamiebestminiatures]

Great report

[@johnhamer88]

Space Wolves!!!!🎉❤🎉🎉❤

[@ub3r0wn4g3]

Great batrep but isnt warpsight used different? You pick a target that can be seen by ANY psyker and then ALL psychic attacks against the unit gain indirect fire

[@VanguardTactics]

You're absolutely right! We misread that one!

[@andydownes853]

comment for the comment god, algorithm for the algorithm throne. Also can I just say mikes narration in this intro is top stuff. I am Immersed.

[@whatdoesit_takeuk3062]

I am taking my thousands Sons for a game tomaz and I have a question: What use is Exalted Sorcerer on disc when attached to a unit of Rubrics, surely he can't move away from them with his extended move? This is a genuine question rather than trying to nic-pick, I am thinking without disc I could afford another enhancement

[@garregalen83]

Good video, good that you use different camera angels.

[@therapyorjusthobby1137]

Fantastic!

[@imranedessai]

I tried this SW list. I don’t know what to do with the Wulfen. 0 Oc doesn’t help. No advance and charge, no character, no way to survive anything Maybe some scout sniper instead ?

[@mainb8476]

Good battle report, with the terminators I don’t believe you can use the temporal surge with cabal points then also charge.

[@chrisgregory3063]

It specifically says no charges in the rule.

[@joshuadtedd]

Question. The first shooting phase, one dreadnought took out 5 Rubrics...if they were removed before the second one, if removed from the right, would the second one have had LoS?

[@iTxip]

I think Ahriman with his +1 to wound should go with flamer rubrics

[@chrisgregory3063]

Plus 1 to wound, Remove save and Reroll 1’s to wound. Lethal!

[@CLAREROMVoid]

It's so unfair the Thousand Sons battling with their primarch's aid and the Vlka not having such a heavy weight with them...

[@Bran_Redmaw]

Yeah the wulfen could be 10 pts a model and I still wouldn't take them. GW have neutered them

[@DaltonPeters1]

How are you guys shooting indirect with rubrics? Warp Sight requires it to be a Thousand Sons Psyker Model not Unit and only the Rubric Sgt/Sorcerer has the Psyker keyword

[@facemite]

You can make their bolt guns have the psychic keyword with at strat then the indirect strat works on psychic attacks

[@DaltonPeters1]

@@facemite The indirect strat only works on Thousand Sons Psyker Models. The strat to make bolters psychic weapons doesn't give the regular Rubrics models the Psyker keyword (still only the Aspiring Sorcerer has it)

[@h_Anim]

soulripper cannon doesent get psychic from the strat also -> no rerolls.

[@tonylittleton8549]

@@DaltonPeters1 Lets leave rules lawyering in the past.

[@DaltonPeters1]

@@tonylittleton8549 rules lawyering is being annoying about little insignificant interactions. Shooting around buildings (aka ignoring the basic rules of 40k) when you aren't allowed to isn't insignificant lol

[@l.d.6841]

I really liked your BR. Great guys, beautifully painted miniatures, cool format! Unfortunately, the terrain blocked the view on anything else almost the whole time so eventually I switched the BR off :-(

[@VanguardTactics]

Sorry to hear that. Super hard to get the right angles sometimes

[@Slapdab]

Short battle report = must watch

[@primafacie5029]

❤

[@timunderbakke8756]

I think the thousand sons list is off. The points document lists the termie sorcerer as 105 not 85 and that lines up in the pdf and the GW app. I wonder how crucial the crystal is to this list

[@casparlykke1]

If you're going to have more success with edited videos, I think you have to go all the way with it, like playOn or TT, and not just what looks like a cutted live steam. Alto, it was way more accessible to watch, then a 400 hours long BR. I get it tho, livestream is the golden goose right now, that is way more cost-effective. Alto a step in the right direction imo. Hope it continues

[@robertosalvatore1211]

Great battle report but this is why I’ll be playing Space Wolves as Gladius for now as the Saga thing is fluffy but just doesn’t seem worth it on the tabletop. 😅

[@chrisgregory3063]

None of the space wolf unique units can be in a gladius task force.

[@ethanhansen87]

​@@chrisgregory3063they all can be in the Gladius. They all have the Adeptas Astartes keyword. Even Long Fangs, in the app, have that keyword. Everyone knows you can use that detachment for the other SM subfactions.

[@SpiritStoneWarrior94-yx3gs]

​@@chrisgregory3063you can also run Templars with a Psyker in Gladius.... so idk what you're thinking.

[@Dr.PatrickC.Bailey]

Question: I didnt see it come up in the battle, but I was wondering if you all play OoM as a persistent effect? E.g. if the bodyguard unit is destroyed, the OoM continues to apply to the remaining leader?

[@SpiritStoneWarrior94-yx3gs]

Yes it does, as it should

[@Dr.PatrickC.Bailey]

@SpiritStoneWarrior94-yx3gs it sounds like a stupid question, but it's relevant to a local TO who refuses to play it according to the clear wording in the rules commentary. Sorry to bother you.

[@terranaxiomuk]

Please do how to play Admech. They seem to be completely gutted now.

[@andydownes853]

****spolier alert* Jake I take it all back, your dropping the dubs left right and centre!

[@SpiritStoneWarrior94-yx3gs]

Shouldnt the Bladeguard have taken a battleshock in T2? He wiped out half the squad didnt he?

[@Deldar1990]

Could the second Dread actually see the first group of rubrics?

[@Mail99man]

In the combat at around minute 35, wound not the precision model need to see Ahriman for the precision attack? Or does it see him?

[@AngusMcIntyre]

Is that Magnus charge illegal? You have to be in base-to-base contact

[@andosan5995]

Have to go to base to base contact if possible or 1 inch engagement range

[@AngusMcIntyre]

@@andosan5995 thank you sir. I'll refresh myself with that chapter

[@Rafferty1967]

Hoping for some 10th ed Astra Militarum content soon 🙏🏼

[@annesimmons6170]

Really want to get into Warhammer with Space Wolves. Alot of creator's ive seen use Tactical secondaries Whilst I really want to have a look at the Fixed Secondarys

[@SpiritStoneWarrior94-yx3gs]

Tactical is the far better way to play games tbh.

[@Funk08]

52:07 Magnus explodes on death.

[@frankcastle9691]

Magnus can die?

[@Funk08]

@@frankcastle9691 When played badly by an autist, yes.

[@vaettra1589]

Always include written army lists in your reports, please.

[@greggoss7461]

Warp Sight only works for Psyker Models, rubrics (&sot) are not psyker models short of the aspiring sorceter in thr units.

[@VanguardTactics]

Thanks! More to come!

[@xenodraigshrike5052]

Toned down the T sons to be fair to the space wolves eh. I guess that makes for better watching. At least the Tsons were finally shown as winning a game on line the army has been mis built and mis played in all the battle reports so far and they have not had a great showing for what some are calling a S tier army.

[@tonylittleton8549]

Nobody knows how to play them properly, 10.

[@karel-josefstary7880]

Magnus had a deadly demise 6...

[@LoOnyCal]

are these primaris wolves with ragnar leading them?

[@LoOnyCal]

i bought the Indomitus Box set and just recently assembled it all and i want to make them Space Wolves is why i ask.

[@zach5539]

54:20 why did you cut it was getting steamy hahaha

[@davesmith9844]

All is dust!!!

[@BrownNProud112]

720p?

[@markseery1964]

Are the wolves a new studio army?

[@VanguardTactics]

They are on loan from a legend and VT founder Mark

[@robiwrestler145]

RIP Wulfen

[@rufusmarmaduke5670]

It is pretty ridiculous watching the Tsons use their amazingly powerful abilities while the space wolf army ability just doesnt exist.

[@cyranthony]

great work. But its kinda hard to watch do to the poor camera work. open up the apurture so more is in focus, as well put a lut on your footage so its not so white washed. Great fun tho!

[@CalAndAly]

46:14 😂😂😂

[@IngRobyblueyes83]

How do you do to transfer damage from magnus to Ahriman? What does strataems use?

[@lazywolfy3149]

fun

[@garnack1]

Ragnar get +2 strength on the charge

[@InVerum]

Watching this making me definitely fear for my own wolves a bit. Seeing how hard it is to get Sagas, or when you do trigger 2, having to choose, just such a bummer. Either starting with 1 active, or being able to activate more than 1 per turn, I think needs to be a must.

[@MarkAndTerra]

It is really frustrating/sad to: 1. Have to earn what others get for free (a Detatchment bonus), and 2. When you do manage to do multiple "super cool" things, you only get the bonus for one. I cynically think that someone in the GW design studio must absolutely WRECK everyone else with Space Wolves and they all think "wow, we really need to tone this army down!"

[@wadegeorge1591]

SW dont use vangaurd vets.

[@USAFWolf]

Sagas just feel so bad... Its really sad...

[@zoro88h]

You can activate one for a turn for a cp, so turn 1 6+ FNP to get into combat and start unlockinv from there

[@USAFWolf]

@@zoro88h it's just for one unit.

[@CalAndAly]

Its so fluffy and fun for casual games, but hardly competitive compared to gladius. Should let us start with one completed and cap it at 1 or 2 more you can get

[@peachesthedestroyer483]

Won't lie started the video soon as you said wulfen I said nope. They are terrible now and useless better to take a different option.

[@thegorefatherdonkhorneleon5159]

10th ed is so crap. Please start showing some other games.

[@CutronaSalvatore]

This is soo sad to watch! I still can't wrap my head around the fact that this the most played wargame in the world. A bunch of dice rolling and re-rolling and re-rolling..., no really meaningful movements, no terrain real impact. Too many tiny rule bits to end up everything saves on a 4+ or 5+!! In my opinion: Blood Bowl, Star Wars Shatter point, Bolt Action or ASOIAF bring much more meaningful choices for a fraction of the cost.

[@theophrastusbombastus1359]

So Space Wolves aren't as terrible as they cried on Reddit? Just as I thought

[@Sinthoras25031994]

Wow mortal wounds output this edition is really op i might say. Especially with rerolls.. i might not like this at all

[@latralus46and2]

What makes it sillier is that GW said they were making 40k less lethal in 10th edition. Literally the opposite happened