Threadripper 1950X vs Core i9 7900X - Gaming & Rendering Benchmarks!

[@Bitwit]

Benchmarks start at 9:04 =) EDIT: -Core *i9* 7900X, not i7! Sorry guys it's been a long week. -Max temp for the 1950X was actually 52'C when accounting for the +27'C offset between reported core temp and actual core temp. Phew. Also hope you guys don't mind the sparse b-roll. The new studio is eating up ALL my time but I should be back into the groove soon! :D

[@KixPanganiban]

You were just testing if noti squad is attentive. I failed.

[@aidanmco]

Bitwit I was about to correct you in the comments lol

[@JD-ef1jb]

I was so confused having just come from Paul's review. Thanks for the clarification. (Heads up that you spelled Sponsor as Sonspor...to match thermaltake's Floe I assume)

[@ReZhorw]

Bitwit We still love you, it's alright. But don't you ever fucking dare doing that again or else... I'll unsub!!!!

[@acericoniadak]

The pack review that AMD send come with Thermaltake Floe Riing RGB 360 TT Premium Edition AIO. Why you don't use this AIO cooler. ?????????

[@paulshardware]

I'm so glad Threadripper is finally out. Yay. Yaaaaaaaaaaaaay.

[@bigsackisback5368]

Paul's Hardware hello dad

[@BannWorthRulz]

You're just looking for likes Paul GTFO! J/K love you man.

[@mitchell2719]

Just think, Coffee Lake might be coming out in a couple weeks. Yaaaaaaaaaaaay

[@bigdhav]

I'm so glad I can afford Threadripper! Yaaaaaaaaaaaay! Oh wait... I can't.

[@codyfournellcsrf5164]

mitchell2719 lmao coffeelake oh wait new motherboards kuz they kn ow u intel shrills r stupid

[@droplighttech5688]

Looks like 32 *threads* of the 1950X might *rip* apart sales of the i9. What a time to be alive; AMD is finally back.

[@Apatetika]

[X] to doubt

[@insertausernamehere4515]

this aged really well

[@AishiMTA]

@@insertausernamehere4515 it's aged even better in the last 6 months

[@actiniumanarchy9237]

Cute, 7900x destroyed look at all the stats lmao

[@andrewyoo3706]

The threadripper obviously won because it had RGB ram.

[@anthonydeleon1571]

Ask Linus

[@Anthony-cn8ll]

Yeah, RGB increases FPS by 69%!

[@LeonardoNan]

Its shit i hate amd

[@HDDNeptunia]

Intel fanboy XD

[@carljosephavelino4128]

Wijn Kenner intel fanboy XD

[@SacredSkill]

When Linus and BitWit release a video at the same time... *WHAT DOES ONE WATCH?*

[@SacredSkill]

TheRanscat, I like that idea.

[@mitchell2719]

You watch the Gamer's Nexus review first

[@shadowseek27]

but you dont watch paul

[@beardninja5029]

I prefer Hardware Unboxed. LinusTechTips sucks.

[@talhahussain3820]

beardninja yh his video is much better

[@hmchammer]

Benchmarks start at 9:04. You're welcome

[@JarrodsTech]

Sounds good for me and what I do, now I just need to convince myself on the price :)

[@StikkyonYT]

Jarrod'sTech get a ryzen 1700 smh

[@JarrodsTech]

No thanks, I'd like to be able to export videos quickly and run my virtual machines.

[@SacredSkill]

Wow, 4GHZ on 16 cores. Will the 7960X be able to do this without custom liquid cooling?

[@zenon6493]

SacredSkill If you Delid it with an AIO Sure

[@zenon6493]

Cause Ryzen is the last scum for overclocking

[@cumulonimbus95]

You mean if we void the warranty on 7960X? I don't think so. It will still throttle.

[@AFPMPU]

yes a decent 1000w stand-alone industrial cooler should do the trick :)

[@yonimizrahi2085]

SacredSkill use the stock cooler

[@andrewheil1158]

Threadripper in Mini ITX...

[@squirky1514]

No motherboard that supports it yet. Not likely for itx th4 mobo to come out any time soon

[@arxci9402]

Best Friend Venom Threadripper in the new 2018 Mini Mini ITX

[@MrDeerz]

the cpu is the size of a mini itx

[@hoverguy4806]

Intel is more gamer/average user based, when AMD is more looking at Content creators. They are both good, now stop fighting. Pls don't hurt me.

[@hadweethegr8733]

HoverGuy let's talk about Intel's Petabyte SSD then...

[@niranjanravichandran6923]

HoverGuy *Finally* a sane person

[@filmguy9]

HoverGuy 100% Agree with you. I won’t hurt you ❤️

[@Austin1990]

HoverGuy I don't think Intel would like this comment. They always advertise themselves for productivity, not gaming. But, now, their processors are only good for playing around (gaming). That is tough. And, Intel is only better at gaming if you have a 144Hz monitor.

[@aydanlaurence4121]

Agreed :)

[@TheMetalMenace]

Great video! Enjoyed the music during the benchmarks.

[@partitionpenguin]

Very in-depth and well done vid BitWit. Nice!

[@iansmithers8696]

You and wifey are awesome, keep it up - been sort of binge-watching your videos as I'm planning a new build for 2018, and even though this is older it has very useful info.

[@blakekford]

Hey Kyle, I think there might have been something wrong with your Threadripper setup? I've watched multiple other reviews that launched today and all them show the 1950x blowing away the i9-7900x in productivity and VERY close in gaming applications. The delta in FPS your results show while gaming are not consistent at all with other reviews... Don't know what's going on

[@foltarz8469]

okay well it's been 2 years and you aint done another review I would like to see a comparison between the threadripper 1950X and the i9 9900k

[@zycane]

These benchmarks sure look a lot different than those found at Gamers Nexus and Hardware Unboxed, not to mention the distru/local do show performance differences, and more in-depth explanations of each tech inside the Threadripper of what may cause a performance difference, along with productivity and lower watt usage the Threadripper utterly destroys the current i9 lineup.

[@karmapoliceman7]

thanks for including 1440p benchmarks, I was having a really hard time finding any!

[@VoldoronGaming]

There are things you can do with threadripper you simply can't do with Intel CPUs. 4 graphics card with two x16 and two at x8 and m.2 raid. Think about this..a dual socket epyc server will have 240 pcie lanes. Not even a top of the line dual Xeon can do that.

[@GoodTofuFriday]

Really like your graphs man. Very clean

[@frighteningspoon]

And now compare the sizes of these CPUs. *Mindblown* This huge letdown is what y'all were hyped for?

[@GameplayandTalk]

Interesting. So both CPUs are fairly similar when it comes to productivity and 4K gaming. I'd personally be interested to see which comes out ahead while doing real-world stress tests, like streaming at high settings, playing a game at high settings, and doing a video export/render all at the same time.

[@Aizman87]

Other reviewers have experienced i big difference in gaming performance on threadripper when using local access instead of distributed in the same games you tested so you really should recheck your settings and results...!

[@carloacetre677]

Why are your Adobe Premiere results so different from the other reviewers? In other reviews, the 1950x is way faster.

[@railerswim]

Two problems with your review. Why are you using Premier Pro CS6 instead of the CC 2017? This could easily change that outcome. Second what about the 27 degree offset? You probably limited your Threadripper way more than you needed to.

[@WalterW]

Benchmarks start at 9:05

[@theblackenedrift5255]

I think both are absolutely beautiful and awesome. I think either one is a solid choice. :D

[@xXTheoLinuxXx]

True, If you're not wearing blue or red glasses I believe you would be more than happy to own one of the two.

[@theblackenedrift5255]

Theo Buunermond im sure anyone who could acutally afford it and actually put videos up on it, would love it. Just like bitwit :D

[@gureguru4694]

say all u want but its amazing how intel maintained the physical size of their CPU. while AMD need a HUGE silicon real-estate to even compare.

[@jasondelaca5318]

YakuZa The shit that Intel fanboys say.

[@s_apienza]

Yea but there is 4 dies moron

[@downtimegamer5076]

Your 2 test benches are what I want my new pc build to be this year 😍 I'm so happy you did this video because I'm stuck between either going back to AMD or going for Intel again! 1950x or 7900x for gaming and some premiere pro/video editing 🤔

[@rsu87]

3:52 why has the aio a mini usb port?

[@Cooe.]

Paul says there's a 27 degree C temp offset on Threadripper (like the 20 offset on 1700X/1800X), so your temps were only 59 not 79 degrees.

[@polypus74]

I will be seriously considering the next 7nm gen threadrippers when they come out for my next rig. I'm doing mostly CPU bound content creation, i.e. rendering. I thought it was a no brainer, but I found out that ryzen only has half the AVX2 throughput. So I'll be closely watching how the specs change from both intel and amd in the coming 18 months or so. It would be cool if you guys gave a bit of airtime to the SIMD question, as I never see it mentioned anywhere on youtube.

[@78MatWar87]

I would love to know what exactly holds it back in gaming though, as the other benchmarks show the power is clearly there but as far as I see the only reason it gets lower performance in games is probably down to optimization in either the architecture or the games themselves. which makes me lean more towards buying the amd because they will likely update things like bios s and improve the performance where as I have my doubts anything will change with intel. I am very curious how future games that are programmed with ryzen in mind will perform like vs intel.

[@vnitto]

Benchmarks start at 9:00 I just saved you 9 mins of your life.

[@neverbeensane402]

how much of a factor do you think the all in one is on the threadripper? Once a full coverage heat-sink comes out you should run the tests again. Or push the oc more.

[@hikarinoneko5050]

I think AMD is doing really well with there new CPUs. Edit - I hope this will fire things up in the on going battle with AMD vs. Intel. ^^

[@godhand40johnson64]

Love your channel keep up the good work

[@kusaluprety232]

AMD has to dab on them haters from Intel

[@aidanmco]

Darkfire Blast #whatifthehatersdabback?

[@hadweethegr8733]

Darkfire Blast but AMD got pooped on... I don't see AMD making Petabyte SSDs, or any company.

[@racistpandagod]

Got some jacksfilms viewers nice

[@THECODgOd1790]

Haddz petabyte ssd that nobody but the biggest databases would use and amd got shit on? Wtf? Are you delusional? A single ssd doesnt beat out an entire generation of better CPU's.

[@frighteningspoon]

Darkfire Blast look, i will praise the shit out of AMD once they make something that actually beats intel! Right now, that is not the case! Benchmarks boi! Gaming performance was ridiculously better on Intel, I'm wondering what you guys were all hyped up about when I saw this, what a letdown

[@user-rb9hl1nx3y]

The best reviewer. And the only Like I will give for a TR review although I have watched many today.

[@tylerpruett4021]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't the CPUs that are sent out to reviewers usually binned? So if it takes 1.39 volts to hit 4.0 gigahertz on a Binned processor, aren't many of them require a lot more voltage? This doesn't really seem to bode well for the overclock ability of these threadripper CPUs

[@anthonypedersen1555]

Did you leave the 1950X stock when it was in game mode or did you have an overclock applied? GN showed that game mode sometimes improves it, but only if the cpu is left stock.

[@vlegendkiller7201]

I built my first gaming pc a month ago. It was nice to do it by myself. But i have a i7 and it blew my mind how fast it is. Im new to all this stuff and having a basic cheap pc before i was impressed. But i like getting into all this stuff haha

[@wunawunacom-sc9yi]

Thank you. Nice review. Do you happen to have any data on Visual Studio build performance comparisons between the processors? Just curious.

[@AlexFromTheNorth]

Once again, great content!

[@james2042]

benchmarks start at 9:07 and there are no game mode benchmarks

[@TwstedTV]

Question - Did you run this benchmark only once, or did you do a best out of 3 while also rebooting the system and making sure its clean between reboots & tests ??

[@zvit]

When you tested Premiere Pro rendering, did you activate Intel's Quick Sync?

[@titanjde]

Please follow-up on this in 6-12 months. For it to compete so closely right out of the gate is pretty awesome.

[@aaronmccarter4596]

Hey just subscibed turned notifications :):) love your vids

[@74_Green]

SO...did you test the different memory states?? NUMA and UMA. Which memory state did you record these benchmarks in????

[@Sabrinahuskydog]

Where's the power comparison tables? Did I miss it or did you not show us how much either system consumes in power?

[@benedictt.1050]

Seems as though stock Threadripper 1950X beats an overclocked i9 7900X in work related task. However it doesn't perform as well for gaming at 1080p and 1440p. But if someone is spending $1000 on a CPU, I'd imagine they're going for 4k which the two processors are equal in or in some cases, the 1950X is superior. I think AMD has the $1000 enthusiast CPU.

[@Banakin]

Now look at Paul’s thumbnail

[@Banakin]

And then linus’

[@johannereago935]

Banakin xD

[@furanot6920]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the Zen architecture has a 27 degree C offset, which means the TR 1950X is cooler than the 7900X. And also, this is the only review I have come over where the Intel part is either cooler or less power hungry. Edit: I am surprised over these results. Watch/read AdoredTV's or Ars' reviews, and they get entirely different results. Threadripper is way faster in non-gaming tasks and a bit slower overall in all resolutions in gaming, while being about equal in 4K. Edit 2: I mean, who buys a 1k CPU for either gaming or below 4K/High res ultrawide activity... If you spend 1k on a CPU, man, you don't game first and create second.

[@HobbsMachtVideos]

Wow that´s less gaming performance than I expected from the 1950X. Also I guess the 6950X at let´s say 4,3 GHz hits even higher number than the 7900X at 4,5 GHz. Modern High-End CPUs are really not made for gaming anymore.

[@HobbsMachtVideos]

1ctrlaltdelete1 But were also never worse than their mainstream counterparts.

[@bothellkenmore]

It's essentially 2 x 1800X and games don't utilize 16 threads let alone 32 so the gaming is generally in line w/ 1800X.

[@SyntheticFuture]

But surprised, was expecting more. Premiere especially was a letdown. Might be optimization?

[@_caseyv_]

Hey Kyle, Thanks for a great video! Any chance you can share your OC settings for the 7900x?

[@Ben2D]

Its weird not seeing your desk and the wall of box's in the background

[@SpenReyn]

Your results are a lot worse for the Threadripper than everyone else, especially Game mode. You said it made no difference but most other reviewers got ~10% more frames in game mode. Maybe you need to go back and retest.

[@arnoldxd]

what about for streaming myself gaming? would i7 be better to do the same job like the i7 8086k?

[@TopHatProductions115]

This video was published on my birthday!

[@yogamochtar5551]

Threadripper is wow!! But over all, 1M soooonnn yyyeeaaaaaayyy

[@stevebutler18]

Any reason why you used CS6 over CC 2017 for Premiere Pro?

[@m0rtl]

Did you consider the XFR 20C offset?

[@MrPokerpro1321]

Anyone else notice the green tubing on what looks like a Corsair aio in the background, cause that's awesome?

[@Brandon-pz8eq]

Really curious how the 1920x stacks up!

[@Putzl52]

Where did you get the music for the benchmark section of the video?! I really like it!

[@DanteSparda66VI]

the vid starts at @9:03

[@gmcenroe]

With new BIOS updates I don't think there is any problem booting from NVME anymore with Threadripper.

[@gzwong5176]

9:05 benchmarks

[@ipadize]

why am i even watching this? im still good with my i7-3770k

[@ONECeVIO]

Me too - I don't know why I'm watching it. I have Intel Core i5 2,5GHz 2 core (mobile version) and it is enough for me.

[@tayyebmujtaba2520]

Hey kyle..... Check your description - wtfs a sonspor?

[@Exevium]

Maybe an idea for the next vid where you do a comparison: when you're talking about the charts, maybe do some B-roll with the charts of which you're talking about? I mean, you are a beautiful man :D But I prefer to actually see the data that you're talking about. I didn't get what clockspeeds both CPUs are running at. Assuming Threadripper runs at a lower clock, it does make sense that it doesn't do as well in games.

[@CocoaNutTF2]

Would you be willing to do streaming benchmarks? A lot of people stream these days, and it tends to be fairly CPU-intensive. I'm not saying you did anything wrong with these benchmarks, just making a suggestion for another video to add.

[@timadams08]

Why didn't you do any DX12 testing? Who plays BF1 on DX11?

[@mizinoinovermyhead.7523]

So this should have been obvious to anyone. Higher per core clock just makes more of a difference for games than higher thread counts. That being said I'd love to see if perhaps the thread ripper can do things that the Intel chip can't. For instance two and three gpu set ups running at 4K I would think would press the intel chip to its limit while the and chip would handle it and have head room.

[@vasser-6825]

hello, first of all your channel is awesome... i need some advise and i hope you can help me out... im thinking about getting a computer for streaming and recording from my playstation 4 using elgato hd 60 s capture card.... i want a pc that can handle recording really crisp 1080p at 60 fps call of duty gameplay. currently i have a laptop with an i7 5500u processor with 8 gb of ram, and an nvidia GT830 , but it seems not enough for encoding the videos at 1080p 60fps... i dont play on pc, i just want it for streaming from my ps4 and recording just like i said before... what CPU and GPU would you recommend? thank you.

[@GeekSaurusTechtalk]

Nice info, thanks

[@steelwrath]

what cpu cooler you used man?

[@Fr33B0ArdRR12]

What about power draw? Seems like all people care about is upfront cost but if you are using this cpu 10 hours a day under load, does the power draw match the increase/decrease in performance? It is it negligible?

[@kevinshi2495]

1950X is worth it if you want to host a server :))

[@Astfgl]

Snickering every time you say the word "package".

[@userstrategist]

Good to see the competition between Intel and AMD , With the launch of Threadripper AMD have put their mark way up where Intel was ruling for past decade , According to Price to Performance point I would personally go for the AMD, Yeah its true that Zen Architecture need more optimizations from the devs all over the world, by the time everything is optimized we can see the true numbers from the Zen

[@sagnikpradhan3594]

What about the custom Bitwit Threadripper Processor ?

[@user-rb9hl1nx3y]

Finally a reviewer that actually uses 1440p and 4K in their benchmarks of TR! Somehow some big reviewers think it's funny to just test only pathetic 1080p with TR and 1080ti ! Almost sure Intel is paying them just to win at something...

[@sparkyenergia]

Can we get some perspective on that handbrake score. What is a 7700k and a R7 CPU capable of?

[@GD15555]

0:50 which is intel i7 maybe i9

[@albb0920]

local+SMT is also available from UEFI. For example, if you intend to use TR for virtualization.

[@4IN14094]

Looking at the comment it seems most people missed the biggest selling point of TR: those 60 PCIE lane, surely for most poeple 44 lane should be enough, but having more PCIE lane is simply the way forward.

[@johnnyxp64]

cinebench and other single thread tests are absolute. why would someone buy this amazing multicore beast and render in single thread applications??? it must be totally stupid and the single thread rendering has no meaning in real life.

[@mariochaosspear]

Fantastic, neither of these fit in my motherboard.

[@AlecShernAPS]

Could you put the specs as test on the screen as well? I had a hard time comparing them with just listening to you talking. :)

[@roam3r690]

Oh noes. You didn't use a cooler that's for the threadripper. You're not cooling it completely :(

[@FarEasternLodge]

8:50 for benchmarks.

[@nabgeta]

Okay so which cpu preforms better when do when you render a video and play a game at the same time?

[@Raletia]

Gamers Nexus test that a bunch, both CPUs required them to do multiple streams at once while gaming to even attempt to stress them out. They Both handled Gaming & Streaming to youtube & twitch at once. Though for older games the i9 did better with it's single core performance, but newer games were more even.

[@shadycheese]

All the products look sharp tho, so no contest.

[@xMahzii]

Shady Cheese yeah no contest lmao EXEPT PRICE TO PREFORMANCE...

[@wahahah]

depend on what you are looking for, Price to performance, there aren't any difference either lol. Intel is better for gaming still.

[@xMahzii]

yeah totally no difference when it comes to price to performance huh? jesus christ lol

[@GimikiGamer]

Saving money for my second build for early 2019 - amd 16core - dual 2080 gpu - better mobo from asus rog - 128 ram Thermal take chasis with liquid cooling stuff :) reply if you want to know my current build

[@dmitrii_cl]

AMD for 4k... no, 8k+ gaming! :D

[@GimikiGamer]

Dmitry cool!

[@lordcreeper3835]

Brah is do four way sli with 4 titan x 2nd generation and a thread ripper with nzxt h440 case

[@beebebbebeeb3725]

everytime i watch your vids i fall asleep sorry.

[@ryanmolyneux1018]

Just curious why not try testing with and Rx cards I know yes it's not about the cards & cards are slower but just be curious to see if there is any difference in gaming aspect

[@ployth9000]

guess I will be sticking with my 6950x maybe a new process shrink from 14 nm before I upgrade but it will have to be a nice boost in gaming for me to consider

[@Paradox_FPS]

fix your description, you misspelled Sponsor lol