THREE CENTURIES OF LOST ARAB HISTORY - How Much Do You Know?

In this informative video, we delve into the often overlooked period of Arab history from the 16th to the 18th century. Despite its significance, this era is frequently disregarded in mainstream histories, leading to either gaps in our understanding of the region's cultural, political, and social developments or to assume that the region regressed in its innovation, knowledge and significance.
We explore the factors that have contributed to this lack of focus on Arab history during this time period and highlight the importance of bringing attention to this crucial era. Join us as we uncover a small part of the rich and complex history of the Arab world during the 16th to 18th centuries and shed light on an often neglected chapter of our global past.
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[@NoMadKid]

I blame us Arabs for our decimated legacy. Instead of celebrating our differences, we weaponized it. Each ethnicity sees themselves superior to the other. No Syrian is better than Moroccan and no Saudi is better than an Egyptian.

[@thekandarichronicles]

I dont blame you for blaming Arabs. As you put it, no one is superior to the other. Totally agreed.

[@focusontheargument]

@@thekandarichronicles No Arabs without Turks, Kurds and Persians.

[@zakback9937]

Moroccans Arab? LoL maybe genetic minority of Banu zammal i.e. banu hilal groups like banu maqil whom were also moved about.

[@focusontheargument]

@@zakback9937 You too, confuse ethnicity with genetics. Typical for racists. Azulist, I presume?

[@focusontheargument]

@@zakback9937 Azulist?

[@AbdulRehman-hm5do]

I got to learn something new, Alhamduillah good work 👍 I would love to see you dive into Islam in the east. From its influence in China to that of the islands of Indonesia

[@liftforwaifus6741]

Seconded!

[@thekandarichronicles]

Thats a great idea. Will log it onto the content goodie bag for future production. Thanks AbdulRehman!

[@Ili_chilli]

Thank you for being a professional who is finally shedding a beautiful light on Arab and Muslim history. Your work is greatly appreciated, and I would welcome your continued efforts in this regard.

[@thekandarichronicles]

Ili Chilli, I thank you for being a wonderful supporter of the Chronicles and I am very glad it resonates with you. Appreciate the kind words on the quality.

[@John-pk9rw]

We wuz mohamed aroudani n shiet. Africanz n shiet

[@hakukuze7947]

As always enjoyable and enlightening.

[@thekandarichronicles]

Appreciate the wonderful words as always! 🙏🏼

[@topDragon-f9t]

Love this type of content, keep it up!

[@thekandarichronicles]

I will indeed keep going full force. And thanks for the content encouragement.

[@ТатьянаМуха-н5ш]

❤ Thank you 😊

[@thekandarichronicles]

Thank you as always Tanya! 😍

[@NGC-catseye]

Thank you so much for mentioning Muhammad Al-Rudan ✨ Everyone else is important too, but astronomers are my favourite peoples.😺

[@thekandarichronicles]

They are all important. And surprising how much they had added to history but are far from being recalled anywhere.

[@reconscout2238]

Ottomans did not attempt to turkify arabs until 1911 and before then you could say that turks themselves got arabised taking many arab loannwords into the languange

[@HatredForMankind]

Turks didn't take many arab words into their "language" that is Turkish, but in High Ottoman, which was official book language(not a spoken one, mind you) of the Ottoman Empire. The amount of Arabic loanwords in daily spoken Turkish(aka: Anatolian Turkish or "Anatolian Turkmen" back then) never surpassed 15%, and most of them were via Persian, not directly from Arabs

[@thekandarichronicles]

Don't agree that much with your point. Turkification began earlier and closer to the early to mid 19th century at the latest. This was the trigger for the Arab nationalist movement of the AlNahda.

[@thekandarichronicles]

Agreed. Farsi had much greater impact on the Turkish language than Arabic.

[@reconscout2238]

I am a native turkish speaker that learned arabic later i am c1 now in arabic and i would tell you that in modern casual street turkish %35 of the words are arabic without arabic loanwords you literally cant express some concepts and the infuelence of persian is low most loanwords in turkish is arabic and you trying to portray ottomans as some kind of nationalistic turkish empire but in truth not only they were not turkish nationalists they literally supressed turkish identity and promoted islam based ottoman identity this is why turkish nationalists hated ottomans which resullted in them making a coup against the ottoman dynasty in 1908 and they began the turkification in 191

[@موسى_7]

@@HatredForMankind How many Arabic words in antep fistikli cezerye lokum? 3 of them, antep being the only Turkish word.

[@MJ4mat]

"history is written by the victors"

[@thekandarichronicles]

HI MJ. Not sure it’s necessarily that. I think more of it is us Arabs trying to wipe out memory of being a significant part of the Ottoman Empire. But again the victor is the one with the loudest and most enduring voice. So you might be right.

[@brendasmart553]

It's both.​@@thekandarichronicles

[@PartiallyT]

@@thekandarichronicles no i think that statement is a call to abolish history and history is the identity. And the west is against the truth in any shape or colour.

[@mazenh7934]

@@thekandarichronicles you would know both Ottomans and Arabs are both winners and losers in many ways , only for the both to be lost by the West , so the West is the victor . At the end of the Day , Arabs are too prideful to do either . we Arabs are now the "Third Wheeler" of everything , and as For Ottomans , the word should go for all of us , not just Turkey , you know. Thus whatever conflict is between us can be solved altogether by establishing an Islamic Lobby that attracts corps . if Arabs or Turkey do not do that , then the ever-awaring American People will surely make one.

[@ademali8199]

@@mazenh7934 well said but one thing with us Arabs the rich golf arab states want to be white and western so bad 🤣😅 even tho they know they ain't excepted

[@ahmedengineer5778]

Great as always 👍

[@thekandarichronicles]

Thank you BuShehab. Always like seeing you here in the comments section.

[@Lumi_Lumi13]

Western civilization owes literally almost everything to the golden age of Islam. Algebra, medicine, surgeries, astronomy, translations of Greek & Roman histories, our numerals, art, poetry, carpentry, even taxation methods & some laws. Not to mention history, & engineering & a LOT more. Sidenote; I am OBSESSED with the Ottoman Empire & the history & culture of the Turks before they adopted Islam. I am also VERY thankful for the Muslims that conquered Romania & Hungary, where my ROMA family originated from. We had protections & rights under the Ottomans & could practice our craft (metalworking & music) & actually get paid for it rather than being chattel slaves. If it weren't for the Ottoman's, I don't think my tribe would've survived (at least until WWII, but that's another story). Another sidenote: While Europe was going through its Dark Ages, the Arab world was having its Golden Age, if that will tell you anything.

[@thekandarichronicles]

All your points are on point and factual. I think there is a lot of avoiding the value of the Golden Age of Islam over other ages in history. Whether that is by intention or not, I leave that to each person to make the case. Thank you for sharing your thoughts.

[@unknown.1043]

The entirety of Islam is grossly neglected by the West.

[@thekandarichronicles]

You fear and hence neglect what you don’t understand.

[@unknown.1043]

@@thekandarichronicles exactly my friend.

[@alanh.790]

Love your channel. You deserve much higher subscriber counts.

[@thekandarichronicles]

That’s amazing Alan. It’s you the viewers and subscribers who are the real value of this channel. Sharing your time and thoughts in a selfless manner helps drive this channel to hopefully becoming what it truly deserves. Also you have the power to help expand it. Nothing comes with as much power as a referral by someone who trusts you. So your sharing of this video or channel will go way further than a mere algorithm.

[@AlternaVisionStudio]

Very enjoyable and informative ! Will definitely be on the lookout for next episodes and will binge watch earlier ones.

[@thekandarichronicles]

Thank you AVS. Will be looking out for your commentary and I really appreciate your wonderful support.

[@لعبتكخايسة]

مشكور اخوي ❤

[@thekandarichronicles]

العفوا عزيزي

[@brendasmart553]

Wow this video is absolutely packed with info that certainly cannot be absorbed in one viewing- with exception of your whole point made. It makes me want to learn more and that is excellent! Thanks!

[@thekandarichronicles]

Hi Brenda. I am so happy the content resonated with you and has unpacked new outlets for exploration for you. Thats how I feel when I start the research for all my videos.

[@TingTong2568]

Even the Mamalukes, the Ayyubids in Egypt and the Zengids in Syria weren't Arabs.

[@thekandarichronicles]

Seems like there were a lot less Arabs than one would think there were.

[@TingTong2568]

@@thekandarichronicles it was. You'll be shocked to find out more if you dig deeper.

[@Nobody-q2j]

Yeah, the majority of Egypt isn’t Arab. They are Kurdish and Turkic. Why do you think Egyptian and Turkish people look the same?

[@Michael_De_Santa-Unofficial]

@@Nobody-q2j Interesting information you get there. Mind if you share a source?

[@Nobody-q2j]

@@Michael_De_Santa-Unofficial Brother, just research how many empires have conquered Egypt and how long they lasted. It’s all online, and this is a known thing. The Seljuk Turks conquered Egypt a thousand years ago, then came the Mamluks, then the Ayubid Kurds/Turks, then the Ottomans. Brother Egyptians are Hammitic people, from the descendants of Mizraim the son of Ham. The people who inhabit the whole Middle East today are children of Japheth.

[@MithgalAlFayez01]

Not to mention the autonomy that many Arab tribes enjoyed during some phases of that period of Ottoman rule, as many would go on to form Emirates and small kingdoms, have courts, impose various judicial systems, collect taxes, promote trade, build, form alliances, and fight against the Ottomans when needed.

[@thekandarichronicles]

They did indeed share a certain level of autonomy but I believe that shifted as the empire progressed. Or regressed. That is a matter of opinion.

[@shaloneto]

The core of Arab tribes that stayed in Arabia and who kept a kind of pre Islam lifestyle and costumes produced, ironically, a big amount of literature that almost can rival pre Islamic literature. They had their own Antarra and Hattem AlTaie’ style celebrities!They also had big events that shaped the tribal scene in Arabia. Events like Hessa war (مناخ حصه) and others

[@thekandarichronicles]

Thank you for sharing and I am now intrigued to discover more about your addition pertaining to the literature that was produced during that time. Will for sure look into this as a possible topic for future content. If you have any resource or references suggestions, please do share!

[@waltonsmith7210]

Ive heard about "the Gunpowder Empires" of the 16th century and thats about it. Everything gets skipped over except Ottomans vs Safavids.

[@thekandarichronicles]

Exactly the point. The unfortunate part is that this same sentiment Arabs have over their own history. Something. is definitely wrong about this.

[@YusufHalici]

In the Ottoman era, and practically eras of all islamic empires before colonialism, there was no racial segregation or differences between the Muslims. there were muslims than the dhimis , thats how the society was divided. So Arabs were treated as Muslims and Ottoman citizens, they weren't suppressed until the late 20th century after the Young Turks coup. So logically that's why they were integrated into Ottoman civilization. Therfore this unification of civilization didn't come as oppression but as ideological unity of fates *islam^

[@thekandarichronicles]

Thats a very valid point Yusuf. I share your thoughts. But this is also about looking back in history and trying to understand our past. Part of your commentary give accurate explanation to a distinction of ethnicity that really didn't hold much ground back then.

[@kay1057]

If you think that what you said is true then you are simply do not understand reality. Arabs were certainly not treated equally.

[@Muradmb1986]

Man i really do appreciate your enthusiasm and focus on our legacy and often forgotten parts of our history in a time that this is a fading field of concern , i respect that you excel in what you do even though you know that this will not bring many reviews and the recognition it deserves . do you feel like me sometimes that you were born in the wrong century hhhh ! regarding this topic , i do believe that the ottoman occupation had a disastrous impact on our scientific , cultural and social development in a crucial timeline where everyone else was making swift progress . Thank you

[@thekandarichronicles]

Murad, I can't afford to think of the consequences of the topic. These are elements I am passionate about and have deep thoughts on. Recognition and success if it is deserved will come. Your commentary and engagement as with others is success enough. As for living in the wrong century, there are so many centuries I would have to have lived I can't really pinpoint 1!!!!

[@zariaalhajmoustafa2573]

Like my the teacher of History tool me the era of the Arab ruling the Islamic world end it when the Turk enter the Middle East I told him why he told me this quote from Umar ibn al Khattab (AR) set We are a people whom Allah has honored with Islam. If" we seek honor through anything else, Allah will humiliate ".us نحن قوم أعزنا الله بالاسلام فإن ابتغينا العزة بغيره، أذلنا الله.." الفاروق عُمر بن الخطاب رضي الله عنه

[@thekandarichronicles]

Hi Zaria, I am not sure how the entry of the Turks relates to the quote by Umar ibn AlKhattab. And honour is relative, one of oneself, of one's nation and of one's faith, and I am not so sure applicable to the quote. The quote is more akin to those who seek glory some place other than in the Islamic faith.

[@amrkhashaba9396]

So the hadith is talking about Arabs or Muslims?

[@zariaalhajmoustafa2573]

@@amrkhashaba9396 both but specifically to the Arab

[@ThePrincipleLogician]

Your video raises a great point! While it focuses on the Ottoman Empire, the same principle applies to Arab empires, particularly the Abbasids. They embraced the talents of people from diverse ethnicities, most notably Persians who made significant contributions to poetry, astronomy, philosophy, and mathematics. These contributions ultimately enriched Arab culture and prestige. This historical example shows why religious identity, which is more unifying, is more important than ethnic identity. You can still be proud of your ethnicity and culture but it must never be placed above Islam.

[@thekandarichronicles]

Great insight and your message is well taken. Thank you for sharing.

[@TazKidNoah]

Of course, at least ottomans were allowing the arabic usage. Meanwhile feudalism outside of muslim majority would wash the culture of others..... Ottman Arabs have rich history to inspire

[@thekandarichronicles]

That's true about the Arabic language usage. And agreed regarding Ottoman Arabs and their rich history!

[@yaznhanfi9090]

Jazak allah khair for this video! Can you please make a video about how not all arabs are bedouin and live in tents! Like that most arabs are actually (حضر) like settlers and not nomads. You can take saudi as an example like Najd region and how it is made up of cities and towns with really educated people and political and economical struggle. I myself from the region of Alqassim and proud to say that my great grandmother reads and writes and used to teach quran and Arabic lit. Likewise for Aldiryah and the first saudi state which was made upon uniting small towns and cities into one state under one Emir. These towns still exist today with the old houses and streets and even farms. Thank you 💚💚💚

[@Gamesoftsre]

I recently had a conversation with an Arabist who expressed a surprising viewpoint. He argued that we should not be concerneddor non-Arab Muslims. According to him, the solution is for these non-Arab Muslims to "Arabize" themselves, essentially suggesting that they should adopt Arabic language and culture more fully. This perspective made me curious: Is this how all Arabs think? Do many Arabs share the belief that non-Arab Muslims should strive to become more like Arabs in order to be fully accepted? Or is this view more of an individual opinion rather than a widespread sentiment? I'm interested in understanding how common or uncommon this attitude might be.

[@ALD7MY_D]

رحمة بن جابر الجلاهمة من حلف العتوب من فخذ الجميلات من البجايده من السلقا من العمارات من ضنا بِشر من قبيلة تغلب بن وائل من عنزة ❤ افتخر بهذه الشخصية العظيمه وان عائلته تعتبر ابناء عمومه قريبه لعائلتي حيث كلانا من نفس الفخذ من قبيلة عنزة العريقه ، وايضا محمد بن سعود المقرن من ضنا مسلم من بني حنيفة من بني بكر ابن وائل من عنزة الوائلية 🫡❤

[@zakback9937]

Muhammad al Rudani was non Arab. I.e. he was a native of North Africa from the Chilha. Whom more overlooked than Arabs.

[@thekandarichronicles]

Maybe so but the Arab reference is a more universal term to denote of a North African nation which is today Arab. More to come on the difference so that this knowledge is not overlooked.

[@Alex-tx2em]

If you don't mind, when you eventually cover the Islamic presence in the East and Southeast of Asia you can talk about many aspects such as the Arab traders that settled in China to form the Hui community, the three thousand Arab mercenaries that were sent by the Abbasid caliph al-Mansur to join the Tang in 756 against An Lushan. I'm sure i'm missing more such as the Arab traders that spread Islam and fought against the Spanish in the Philippines, the arabs that intermixed with the Southeast Asian elite that include the Brunei dynasty, other sultanates and Hadhrami Arabs that formed the elite of Singapore. There is also the Arab settlers in India, the claimed Arab lineage by Tipu Sultan, etc.

[@thekandarichronicles]

I think when I am ready, I will definitely touch base with you to give me your thoughts on the matter. I always seek to learn from others and gain added perspective. I can only individually know so much. Really appreciate your sharing.

[@jacket8818]

One of the biggest islamic figure like saladin, bukhari, and muslims, were not arabs, they were muslims that rose during a time period where an arab empire exist, their achievements often are linked to their empire, and that’s normal, today in the US most of their achievements are not done by native white European, yet they are linked to the US, this is normal, and that’s how we should view the arabs achievements under the ottomon empire, it was very normal for them to see their achievements under the ottomon

[@majdanis3684]

Absence of press printing and publishing in the Ottoman Empire is the elephant in the room that you forgot to mention neither Arabic nor Turkish ... lack of schools and educational institutions especially for girls etc... that's why we know nobody of the scholars of that era nor their productions

[@thekandarichronicles]

Also a viable element to the lack of documentation and spread of the history for sure.

[@nizarshawwa3704]

israeli occupiers losing their mind over Al Nabulsi, because they were instructed to use the "Al Masri" surname to indicate that Palestinians didn't exist and they came from Egypt.

[@thekandarichronicles]

The Zionist stratagems have no end.

[@aminemohamed8387]

Moroccans were never under ottoman rule. Thank you for the great content, sir.

[@khatziOG]

True, but the ottoman Empire was the leaders of the Greater Islamic Empire. One way or another they felt belonging to it. Just like South yemen and Oman, it was never fully controlled by the Ottomans but they still had the Islamic connection

[@thekandarichronicles]

True. And hence why there is a clear distinction between North West African history and that of the rest of the Arabs.

[@thekandarichronicles]

@khatziOG I agree on your comparison to Oman and Yemen but I don't think there was this sense of belonging at the time. Each of the nations you mentioned had their own localised geopolitical concerns and agendas at the time that wasn't necessarily aligned with the Ottomans.

[@John-pk9rw]

Imagine thinking Moroccans are Araps. WHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA 😂😂😂

[@John-pk9rw]

@@thekandarichroniclesImagine thinking north-west AFRICANS are Araps. WHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA 😂😂😂 Araps have no history so they steal other’s history🤣

[@Mr.Jameson]

What were the impacts of Ottoman feudalism in Arab lands like Yemen and Hijaz?

[@thekandarichronicles]

Not much in Yemen as the control by the Ottoman was minimal. Hijaz, Ottomans demanded annual taxation on income.

[@KGF-zf2qj]

@@thekandarichronicles That is not true! The Bedouin tribes of Hijaz never accepted to pay taxation to any foreign invaders. It was the Ottomans that give money to Shareef of Mecca to not revolt against them.

[@Alex-tx2em]

@@KGF-zf2qj That's true. The Ottomon governer of Mecca's main job was trying to keep the hostile tribes from robbing the Meccan caravans and other pilgrims, which often involved paying them off. One of these hostile tribes had humiliated the Governer by robbing an official Ottoman caravan and stripping its' members naked to die in the desert.

[@KGF-zf2qj]

​@@Alex-tx2em Ottomans ruled Hijaz by name only. Ones the Ottomans became secular and nationalist the Arab tribes kicked them out and dismantled their weak empire.

[@waseemsstudy9140]

Thanks for raising this question. Why begin from 16th century? Was the progress made during Abbasids purely Arab? Were scholars like Abu Hanifa, Bukhari, Al-Tabari, etc Arab? or scientists like Ibn Sina, Ibn Khuldun, Ibn Hayan, Al-Khwarizmi, etc, Arab? Not really! Because the language of the Quran is Arabic, Arabic became lingua franca of the Islamic state during Umayyads and Abbasids. Thus, all the progress made during that time was credited to the 'Arabs'. When Ottomans took over, progress got credited to the Ottomans. The idea of Arabs and Turks as separate nations came from European nationalism. It resulted in fracturing the Ottoman empire but Arabs got further subdivided - the imperial powers redrew the boundaries in accordance to their own perception of how the old world was prior to the advent of Islam. Thus, erasing 14 centuries not just 3..

[@EmirSaqr]

I get what you mean but Ibn Khaldun and ibn Hayan were actually Arabs

[@thekandarichronicles]

Hi Waseem. Thank you for the great input. You are right, much progress came from non Arab Muslims who engaged in a state of innovation that was amazing. But you also make my points. You know of these non Arab achievers and innovator even though the Caliphate at the time was Arab centric. With the Ottoman Empire, the familiarity with Arab innovators diminishes greatly. Is it because there weren't any? And the conclusion in the video actually enforces your findings, that there is no one age or era of Arab or non Arab Islamic civilisation, if there was, Arabs wouldn't have the history from the 16th century onwards.

[@thekandarichronicles]

Emir there was a great variation of ethnicity and origin of the thinkers during the Golden Age of Islam. That is its power and true achievement. To innovate and seek knowledge beyond petty dissimilarities.

[@waseemsstudy9140]

@@thekandarichronicles Glad to hear back from you. The biggest puzzle to me is why all 3 great empires Ottoman, Persians and Mughals declined simultaneously without any other Muslim dynasty taking over?? Perhaps you can do a vlog on that.

[@thekandarichronicles]

That’s a great question. Will add it to the list of potential topics for upcoming content. Thank you Waseem.

[@ALD7MY_D]

من علماء تلك الفتره جدي الخامس الشيخ علي بن عبد الله الجميلي العنزي نسبا والمصري لقبا ، توفي في النصف الثاني من القرن الثالث عشر للهجرة تقريبا بعد 1250 ؛ حيث كان امام وخطيب قرية نعام

[@thekandarichronicles]

الدحمي مشكور على التعليق والاضافات الجيدة.

[@ALD7MY_D]

@@thekandarichronicles العفو وحاضرين للطيبين، محتواك مفيد استمر وفالك التوفيق

[@عبدالله-ن6ه2ص]

اخي طارق ، موضوع ربما يسكون جدلياً ومشاهداتهُ كبيرة جداً لكني اعتقد أن المسلمين الغير ناطقين بالعربية مهم أن يشاهدوه لينظر للتاريخ الإسلامي القريب بمنظور شامل بعينين بدلاً من عين واحدة وهي فترة الثورات العربية ضد العثمانيين، وسأذرك بعض أسماء كتب المؤرخين العرب في نقد السلطنة العثمانية واضطهادهم للعرب وذكر بعض جرائمهم ، الكثير من غير العرب يخونون العرب في حركة الإمام محمد بن سعود والملك عبدالعزيز او الثورة العربية الكبرى للشريف الحسين ، لأن المسلمين العجم غالبهم ينظرون للعرب بعيون المؤرخين الأتراك واتباعهم ولأن الكثير من الكتب التاريخية للمؤرخين العرب لم تترجم للغات الإسلامية فهم لا يعرفون مبررات العرب للثورة ضد العثمانيين ، فمثلاً العثمانيين لم يأتوا فاتحين لبلاد العرب بل جاءوا محتلين اسقطوا الدولة المملوكية وفرضوا سلطتهم بالقوة واسقطوا الخلافة العباسية في مصر بحكم الأمر السياسي ولا اريد ان استرسل أكثر في مسألة المماليك وتهميش دور الخليفة العباسي الخ..لأن التركيز على بعض كتب المؤرخين العرب ضد العثمانيين : 1. عندما أعلن السلطان عبدالحميد أنهُ خليفة للمسلمين ألف عبدالرحمن الكواكبي هذا الكتاب في رفض هذه التسمية (طبائع الاستبداد للمؤلف عبد الرحمن الكواكبي) ، لأن غالب العرب ينظرون ان الخلافة حق للقرشيين فقط بناء على بعض الأحاديث النبوية . 2. المؤرخ محمد بن إياس في كتابه "بدائع الزهور في وقائع الدهور ( ذكر المؤرخ بن إياس جرائم العثمانيين ضد المصريين بعد اسقاط دولة المماليك والتي لا يوجد فرق بينها وبين أي احتلال) المؤرخ ابن زنبل الرمال، في كتابه "واقعة السلطان الغوري مع سليم العثماني يذكر فيه سرقة العثمانيين للكثير من الكنوز وكل ماهو جميل من بيوت المصريين حتى اختبئ المصريين في المساجد هرباً من العثمانيين . 3. أما كتب بعض المؤرخين في الشام : احداث متنوعة كثورة المثقفين ضد الأمية ، وربما العثمانيين كانوا يتعمدون تجهيل العرب كي يستمروا في السيادة عليهم . المؤرخ الدمشقي شمس الدين بن طولون (المتوفي 1546)، أحد الشاهدين على تلك المرحلة في كتابه "مفاكهة الخلان في حوادث الزمان" أسعد مفلح داغر في كتابه "ثورة العرب"، تلك التي شهدتها سوريا بين عامي 1833 و‌1837 كتب نقيب الأطباء اللبناني أنطوان البستاني، في كتابه "تاريخ المجاعة الكبرى في جبل لبنان (1915 - 1918) 4. أما بعض جرائم العثمانيين بجزيرة العرب : كتاب سفر برلك المؤلف محمد السعيد العهود الثلاثة للمؤرخ محمد حسن زيدان (ذكر بعض جرائم العثمانيين في المدينة المنورة المؤرخ جار الله محمد الهاشمي في كتابه تاريخ مكة (ذكر بعض جرائم العثمانيين في مكة) عجائب الآثار في التراجم والأخبار المؤرخ الشيخ عبدالرحمن البترجي ( ذكر جرائم الحملة المصرية على عرب الجزيرة العربية) وكذلك كتب المؤخين للدول السعودية الأولى والثانية والثالثة ذكرت أحداث مهمة للصراع العثماني مع العرب ، فمثلاً الشيخ محمد عبدالوهاب منع من الدعوة للتوحيد وطرد وهدد لذلك كان سبيلهُ الوحيد هو اللجوء للإمام محمد بن سعود كي يحميهُ من أمراء نجد وهي بداية الشرارة في تحول دعوة الإمام محمد عبدالوهاب من دعوة سلمية إلى عسكرة وحرب مع العثمانيين وحلفاءهم بنجد والحجاز . كعرب لا ننظر للعثمانيين أسياد لنا ، ونؤمن بأن الدولة الأموية والعباسية هي أفضل لنا من العثمانيين ، ونؤمن بأن القيادة العربية للأمة أفضل بكثير من العجم . يمكن الاستفادة من بعض أساتذة التاريخ العربي مثل د.طلال الطريفي و الدكتور سلطان الأصقه لعلم قراءة متوازنة للتاريخ الإسلامي الحديث .

[@vitonari880]

The ottoman excluded and oppressed arabs and arab culture, as there was no arab grand vizers or arab govnors, the official language of the administration in arab states was ottoman turkish and the Husainids of turnisa had to re arabize the administration wich was a thing abd al malik bin marwan did a thousand years ago, even muhammad ali was surprised when the letters of the missions he send to Europe were written in arabic, arabs only entered the ottoman army in the 1800s, the ottomans also took a lot of arabian artifacts and transformed them to constantinople.

[@thekandarichronicles]

This oppression took place later on in the life cycle of the Ottoman Empire. At its beginnings and height Arab culture was quite highly respected as were the key figures that represented a part of the Ottoman court.

[@focusontheargument]

Ottomans were not Turks, but multi ethnic.

[@thekandarichronicles]

The Ottomans did indeed have varied ethnicity but the overriding power base was Turkic.

[@focusontheargument]

@@thekandarichronicles Turkic as in ethno-linguistic identity, not bloodline. Projecting ethnic nationalism onto the pre French Revolution non-Western world is nonsensical. But yes, you are right. But dont forget to mention that one could become a Turk by just adopting islam and speaking the language. Being a Turk was so vague, early anthropologists like Ibn Khaldun (the first of his kind), referred to as Turks being a class in society comparable and interchangeable with bedouins or berbers, instead of being a seperate race.

[@trueordrue]

I wont get tired how every ethnic group shows their gloriousness of how great they were

[@BlueSaladid]

He wasn't praising anybody, he just stated the achievements

[@thekandarichronicles]

Hi @trueordrue. I am happy that you won't get tired of this element of humanity. Peoples have a right to pride in their history and identity, regardless of whether this point was within the video. Thanks for watching.

[@thekandarichronicles]

@BlueSaladid. I wish I was even stating achievements, I was purely reminding people that they existed!

[@oluwaseunadeoyeoyebamiji3592]

I read Takiyudin Ibn Maruf described himself as a descendant of the Ayyubid. If so, he is Kurdish not Arab.

[@thekandarichronicles]

Might have some fact to that. We know he was born in Damascus, a Muslim and spoke and wrote Arabic but could have had Kurdish ethnicity. Is that enough to discount him from being an Arab? That's up for discussion I guess.

[@oluwaseunadeoyeoyebamiji3592]

@@thekandarichronicles Rayḥānat al-rūḥ, he wrote about himself here. I understand the premise, but if we fall into the pitfall of saying anyone who spoke and right in Arabic is an Arab, we might as well not distinguish between the ethnicity of people as it won’t matter. I think like it is now, Speaking and writing in English wouldn’t make us English.

[@thekandarichronicles]

I am not discounting the fact that he had Kurdish ancestry and my point about his reading and writing Arab can't be looked at in isolation. He was born in Damascus and if you were born in England and spoke and wrote English you would be considered English. Will check out Rayhanat al-ruh and if I was inaccurate in the ethnicity then a correction will be made. Thanks!

[@lets_wrapitup]

Ayyubids were arab

[@Alex-tx2em]

@@thekandarichronicles The Ayyubids' geneological record isn't set on how Kurdish they actually were, whether being Ethnic Kurds or Kurdified Arabs.

[@hafizumar107]

Eventually, our religion takes priority over our ethnicity. The end product of Islam is the worldwide unity hegemony under Imam Mahdi (Bani Arab) and Prophet Isa (Bani Israel). By then ethnicity will be second and the first is to recognize that we are all servants of Allah equally. The West have done well in using ethnicity to divide and conquer, and we were left as fools fighting each other while the Europeans, who were once fighting each other because of ethnicity, are now united. Every ethnicity must be celebrated and recognized. But we should never make it a criteria for any sort of legitimacy anymore.

[@thekandarichronicles]

I believe what you list out is representative of what the content expresses. That we should amalgamate based on a universal truth versus one that is dividing.

[@hafizumar107]

@@thekandarichronicles Yup.

[@usamaizm]

I was asking myself this same question. I believe the answer lies in the Persian (Farsi) archives. But the real answer is in the Order of Assassins (Ḥashshāshīyīn?, Asāsiyyūn?, Asāsiyyeen?). And if there lies the answer, who did they answer to?

[@thekandarichronicles]

Usama your timing is impeccable. Assassins is a topic that will be addressed in my content over the next several weeks. Researching as we speak and if you have any pointers it would be absolutely massive. Thank you.

[@Farhan-mt6qv]

Why didn't Arab helping their brothers plastine

[@thekandarichronicles]

Because Farhan, Arab nations are unfortunately weak when it comes to taking decisive actions that should be based on brotherhood, faith, principle and integrity. No other way to justify it.

[@John-pk9rw]

“A list would take hours and hours” bro couldn’t even name actual Araps in 2 minutes so he just took people from other ethnicities such as Amazighs and Somalis and labeled them as Araps, but I’m just minding my business🐸☕️

[@thekandarichronicles]

Hi John. Well if we are to take the video and discuss us from a point of view of the 16th century, there was no group called Arabs. This is a recent denomination that took place in the 19th century. So when looking back, we look back with our current structure of understanding. What makes an Arab or an Arab nation? In modern terms, I am sure you agree that these will include Morocco and Somalia regardless of the ethnicity we are speaking of. Since even nations today that are universally agreed as Arab have many ethnicities that can include Persian, Kurdish and others.

[@focusontheargument]

Turkist, you want us to start about which Turks are actually not Turks? 😁☕️

[@Alex-tx2em]

Meanwhile Turkey is made up of Turkicized Anatolians who think they're ethnically Turkic.

[@amadeusakreveusmusic3356]

The issue here is presenting the false dichotomy of Arab vs Turk (Ottoman) when as you mentioned with all those Arab scholars and inventors, it's way to divide and conquer muslims. Hence why Islam and religion (the real unifier between muslim peoples) was subverted and replaced by nationalism and socialism.

[@thekandarichronicles]

Yes, splintering the Ottomans and Arabs was a tool for a different colonial ambition by the West. Fully agreed. On the element of of religion as the sole unifier over other elements, I dont think these are mutually exclusive. Nations and societies can still unify a larger group when based on religious foundations as well.

[@MrIsh-cw9tr]

Why you pit a cover of tirkish ruler since the topic is about the Arab?

[@thekandarichronicles]

You mean the thumbnail image? It's a play on a perception that Arab history was being overshadowed by Ottoman history.

[@MrIsh-cw9tr]

@@thekandarichronicles well, you are viewing this to western audiance who are stupid enough to keep misunderstand things about us so be cafeful on what pictures you put

[@thekandarichronicles]

Not really clear as what can be misunderstood. There is no real message unless you view the video itself. The thumbnails are meant to represent visual reference to the topic.

[@MrIsh-cw9tr]

@@thekandarichronicles Trust me, thosecamerican watching tour movie are mostly shallow minded and they would judge by the stupidtt rather than deep content

[@Alex-tx2em]

ve are not Arap, ve are european turk!!!

[@adminomhfoz1908]

what arabs - most were from central asia anyway

[@thekandarichronicles]

I am not sure what you mean by Central Asia. If you are suggesting the list of personas mentioned are not Arab then I would disagree.

[@abdalazizariff5154]

excellent -you may have given people a very important lead. The first step in liquidating a people-rewrite history “The first step in liquidating a people,' said Hubl, 'is to erase its memory. Destroy its books, its culture, its history. Then have somebody write new books, manufacture a new culture, invent a new history. Before long the nation will begin to forget what it is and what it was. The world around it will forget even faster.” Milan Kundera, The Book of Laughter and Forgetting [this what happened to the muslim history-all the so called 6 hadith books of the sunni -the author are all persians.during abbasid rule history was rewritten. [bukhari never existed]

[@thekandarichronicles]

Thank you Abdalaziz for your input. Its common practice for those who want to tell their own version of history is to erase that of the incumbent peoples, like what is happening today with the Palestinian people, and other significant minorities in Africa.

[@kay1057]

This is what happens when a silly person starts writing and messes up even basic information. Imam Muslim Imam Abu Daoud, Imam Al Tramdi, Three of the six writers of Hadith books are clear Arabs, while two are not and one is unclear. 😂

[@abdalazizariff5154]

Who are the authors of Sihah Sitta? please provide ref. about them or few of them being arab-all were ajamies[persians/zoroastrians [bukhari never existed-]- @@kay1057

[@davaru566]

I find it ironic how you explained how Arab history got absorbed by the ottomans as ottoman history while using an Amazigh inventor (Muhammad al rudani) as an example of Arab history. Almost all Amazigh/Berber history has been brushed of as Arab history. Resulting in making our people invisible in history books

[@thekandarichronicles]

No one is intending to make any people invisible. On the contrary, it is about telling history and documenting the value what happened in the past. I do understand your premise though and I dont disagree. But there are layers here. We look back with our modern eyes and when we group people we do so with our current understandings of the world. Unless you are saying that Morocco is not an Arab nation then Moroccan be them of Berber, Amazigh, Arab or Iberian descent are universally Arab. This is not meant to reduce them to lesser than what they are. Maybe the video, because it has to be short and fast, can't break down the separate ethnicities of the people mentioned. I actually find value in your thought and will generate a video about this distinction. Thank you for your commentary and inspiration for another video.

[@focusontheargument]

Bye

[@sabeerrostone2845]

The OTTOMAN 🤲🇹🇷❤️

[@amrkhashaba9396]

The Muslim ummah > than ethnicity.

[@thekandarichronicles]

We take pride in what we feel we belong to. Nothing wrong with that.

[@thekandarichronicles]

Hi @amrkhashaba9396 The ideal of the Ummah unfortunately doesn't seem to hold much value in our day and age.

[@John-pk9rw]

Did he just say North AFRICA is majority Araps? WHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA😂😂😂

[@thekandarichronicles]

Hi John, your commentary can be more constructive by shedding light on the knowledge you carry within you. Sharing with other viewers will help shed light on whatever inaccuracies that might be present in any content. Think sharing. Much better for all of us.

[@Nobody-q2j]

@@thekandarichronicles North Africa is mostly Turkic people from the Seljuk, Memluks, Ayubid, and Ottoman eras. The Turks have migrated, overwhelmed, and overpopulated every Muslim nation from India to Algeria since 900 C.E.

[@focusontheargument]

Arabized. Just like you are a Turkified Anatolian. The difference between us, is that we are in peace with our heterogenic origins, while you are not, thereby adopting a constructed identity based on historical revisionism of the most ridiculous kind, mr Turkist.

[@ZS-rw4qq]

Just noticing a parallel between Arabs and Serbs It is as if our history stopped in 1459 after the fall of the medieval capital And began again in 1804 with Karađorđe's first Serb uprising

[@thekandarichronicles]

That is something worthwhile looking into. Thank you for the crash course in Serb history.

[@ZS-rw4qq]

@@thekandarichronicles I'd also say for similar reason - falling under Ottoman/Habsburg influence

[@z1k1c1321]

Your history didn't stop in 1459, you just don't want to embrace that particular period in it. (nor do you have to btw. no judgement) But the Serbs generated 16 prime ministers, the third most powerfull dynasty after the Ottomans and Koprulus, countless state employed officers, artisans and soldiers. Many Ottoman Sultans spoke Serbian themselves and were genetically Serbian to some extent. The reason that you think that your history has a gap between 1459 and 1804 is that your nation-state would like its citizens to see the 350 year long Ottoman rule as an endless and brutal Turkish oppression, instead of mentioning how integrated Serbian people and lands were to the Empire. This is something done by all Ottoman-Successor-States including Turkey herself.

[@ZS-rw4qq]

@@z1k1c1321 Of course, that's exactly what I meant!

[@kubilaykhan]

More than 200 years past and your independ! .... But what is Serbia now without Ottomans???

[@ramzan6949]

Ottoman emprie protected Arab lands from western powers otherwise western powers very earlier colonized Arab land. Arab revolt against Ottoman was great mistake in history.The great of this revolt got western powers. This revolt created a country Israel and western powers colonize Arab land after this revolt. This revolt created bad relations between Arab and Turk. Western powers also want this. Mustafa Kamal Ataturk tried to abolish Islam from Turkey by radical Turkish nationalism for this revolt and called Islam is a Arabic culture so Turk shouldn’t follow Islam. Turkish Muslim suffered allot for this revolt by Young Turks. Since The religion of islam derived in Arabia so Arab ruler should care About relations with non Arab Muslim countries by delegation between them if problem between face Arab and Non Arab Muslim countries faces. Ottoman Empire was last strong household of Muslim Power. Ottoman empire had major contribution to in spread of Islam in Balkan and caucasus. Bosnia, kosovo,Albania, Mecidonia become Muslim in hand of ottoman.

[@thekandarichronicles]

Looking back in history and assessing what has eventually happened as a direct cause is not a straight forward path. Let us not forget that the Ottoman Empire was in decline far earlier to any resistance and revolt by the Arabs. I also dont think collective Islam was on anyone's mind back then, all were after autonomy at any cost. Not the best of paths for sure.

[@KimseKimsesiz1948]

Arabs were under the Turkish Rule and their imperial dynasty, the Ottoman ❤️🇹🇷❤️

[@thekandarichronicles]

Yes they were for a good several hundred years.

[@Nobody-q2j]

That’s why the Muslim world is in such a shambolic state. Central Asian colonialism destroyed the Muslim world.

[@focusontheargument]

Ottoman rule. Ottoman.

[@ziyadpepe6291]

Dark ages by backwards tu*ks

[@syedahmad1840]

why do you have to quote Islamic historical experiences in the parameter of racial background.? Please, do not make historical racial differences ' for indeed, our purest race is as Muslims. You can call yourself turk arab or whatever then please do not call yourself 1 unified Ummah

[@thekandarichronicles]

Syed you are making the same point I state at the end of the video, that we are one and interdependent. If we exclude each other from our histories, we reduce our impact.

[@focusontheargument]

Races dont exist.

[@Coby000]

ne şam'ın şekeri ne arabın yüzü

[@thekandarichronicles]

Thats too bad Coby000. I am unsure as to why you would take such an approach even when the video does indeed hold high Ottoman history, its richness and its importance.

[@Coby000]

ottoman house lost its Turkic identity. We are Turks and Turkiye is country of Turks. We don't want any ummah brotherhood or sth. likte that. Arabs are just puppets of Western world.@@thekandarichronicles

[@John-pk9rw]

Did he just call Mohamed Aroudani an Arap? WHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA 😂😂😂

[@thekandarichronicles]

Same reply as before.

[@almami1599]

The Arab dark ages started the day the Ottoman Selim I conquered Cairo and imprisoned the last Abbasid Caliph and it’s still going on

[@C63V8]

Your "dark ages" started with the Balfour declaration and Sykes-Picot map. Your "dark ages" started with the absence of the Ottomans.

[@almami1599]

@@C63V8 that was the period of Nahda an incomplete renaissance that was later aborted by islamists

[@omarosama155]

@@C63V8 is that why the average saudi emarati Qatari Kuwaiti make 3 to 4 times more than the average Turk? Arab lands are for Arabs to rule and the resources within them thankfully are utilized by the Arabs not Turks or Persians🙏

[@C63V8]

@@omarosama155 your comment has nothing to do with what I said. Btw..what you make average today, will be different tomorrow.

[@omarosama155]

@@C63V8 you said that our dark ages started when the ottomans stoped ruling us when its the exact opposite. The Arabs in much better place than in the Ottoman Empire at least its last century and if they are in a better place than Turks then they are in a much “darker place”

[@verandi3882]

ottoman era was the dark age in the history of the balkans and the middle east .

[@HatredForMankind]

It was the only period of mideast and balkans where the natives of those regions didn't massacre each other and the most stable era...

[@verandi3882]

@@HatredForMankind I strongly suggest that you read about that period if you think massacres or genocides didnt happen, otherwise you wouldn't write such an oblivious claim.

[@thekandarichronicles]

@verandi3882 I disagree with your statement. There might have been dark moments as with any civilisation or empire. But a dark age signifies many things and none can be represented in the Ottoman civilisation in general.

[@thekandarichronicles]

@HatredForMankind Again a generalisation that conveys pure negativity towards one civilisation or another isn't really appropriate. Extremes won't serve the truth one way or another. In this case neither for the Ottomans as being the most stable nor for the Mideast and Balkans who were massacring each other.

[@HatredForMankind]

@@verandi3882The Ottomans surely ruled with an iron fist and iron measures, however this very same attitude caused the stability, and again, barred the populations of said places massacring each others. Well, that is up until secularisation and pan-Turkic nationalists couping and taking over the government in late 19th century, at the least. However, still, those regions didn't reach that level of stability after the Ottomans were gone

[@abdullahassaffah]

Tanzimat kufr reform was the true downfall of ottoman there were major issues before then but that was the worst

[@sentinal2343]

Funny that! as Europe also has a missing three hundred years too! what's the odds?! I could expand but it should be obvious what happened to cause the time loss in BOTH colonising regions!

[@thekandarichronicles]

Please do shed more light!

[@sentinal2343]

@@thekandarichronicles At another time ,i,,ll risk the naughty step from Jewtube if i do!