THREE NEW BUS TYPES FOR LONDON | The NEW YUTONG U11DD, E400 EV & BYD BD11 eBus (YK74PEO) Previews

[@brayerip]

That E400EV is quite smart looking actually, I think it fits in quite well with new TfL designs like the new Piccadilly stock

[@Rotterdamseovspotter]

To be honest I dislike all 3. Give me a wright commander or guy Arab.

[@MostlyBuses1]

@@Rotterdamseovspotter Yutong actually made a bus similar to a Guy Arab (although it was more like a Routemaster). I think it's called to Citymaster

[@MostlyBuses1]

@@Rotterdamseovspotter it's also called the ZK6105HNGS1

[@Rotterdamseovspotter]

@@MostlyBuses1 easy name to remember 😅

[@MostlyBuses1]

@@Rotterdamseovspotter that's how all Chinese buses are named and I'm not even joking lol

[@ashleyjiscool]

Hot take, the Byd is the nicest looking one.

[@flamencoguy3000]

They look very nice, very modern

[@MostlyBuses1]

@@flamencoguy3000 agreed

[@neil1997]

I frequently follow (overtake!) new Wright busses down the M6 around Carlisle and it makes me happy people are buying British

[@MostlyBuses1]

Yeah. Despite what a lot of comments here think, bus companies in the UK are still buying from British companies

[@AndreiTupolev]

I gotta admit, the Yutong demonstrator looks very cool in that colour scheme, but I bet it'll lose a lot of impact as soon as it's painted in bland TfL red

[@MostlyBuses1]

@@AndreiTupolev I think so too. Although I think the Westway livery is pretty dull.

[@F1ll1nTh3Blanks]

The front, back and window assembly stays black, the rest goes red.

[@Itsjustesh]

U11DD looks somewhat fine, love the other Enviro 400EV and the BD11 just needs the scrap yard

[@MostlyBuses1]

@@Itsjustesh I would be ok if the BD11 was just used on three or four routes but I really don't want to see them everywhere (which is probably what's going to happen since GAL prefer BYD)

[@F1ll1nTh3Blanks]

I don't mind the 400EV, the BD11 looks horrendous from the boarding side. How TFL gave these designs the green light I don't know. That said, I do understand they offer better ergonomics and comfort to the drivers and passengers, I am split. I don't understand why the U11DD only has one door.. They should have a double door variant. Maybe it'd get more orders, to my eyes it's clearly the most appealing of the bunch.

[@justbenny__]

I actually love the new 400EV, it looks really good. The U11D could be better. I do have to agree with the BD11 though, it looks completely outdated (and somehow it has so many orders)

[@MostlyBuses1]

@@F1ll1nTh3Blanks TfL aren't really concerned with how a bus looks. It's mostly safety with them

[@MostlyBuses1]

@@F1ll1nTh3Blanks The TfL spec U11DD has two doors. The one here only has one since it's being used by a coach company

[@zfs.59]

The Yutong and new E400EV look nice but the BD11 looks awful.

[@MPDTransport]

I'll report you for bullying new buses they're not awful your channel is awful

[@Rotterdamseovspotter]

Yutong also deserves the place awful

[@mart9545]

​@@Rotterdamseovspotter Yutongs are pretty good tbh, they just chose an... interesting way to design buses... BYD's are by far the worst buses available.

[@MostlyBuses1]

@@mart9545yeah their old designs were really good. They've fell off a bit with their new single decker design and the U11DD is alright

[@danogeto78]

Wow that's a sleek bus Watching from 🇰🇪🇺🇬🇷🇼

[@mrgrumpy771]

Invest in the uk not China. Is that difficult these days?

[@MostlyBuses1]

The bus companies can make their own decisions on what buses to buy.

[@nobby3265]

Seems like it, and let's be real these companies (including the gov) don't give af bout the UK.

[@AlfieDoug]

So who makes your phone, tv, stereo, cheap plastic household goods, clothing and the chips and electronic components in most for your consumer electronic goods, probably not the UK.

[@MostlyBuses1]

​@@nobby3265 tbh I don't really see why companies should care that much about where the buses are coming from. It's good to support businesses in the UK but they're not going to pick a bus that is more expensive and less suited to a route just because it's from the UK

[@MostlyBuses1]

I can understand why people wouldn't like the new publicly owned bus operators buying foreign buses though. And the Bee network in Manchester is buying mostly Wright and ADL, made in the UK (There are some MCVs and Volvos though but I guess as long as they aren't Chinese people here are happy)

[@MostlyBuses1]

Some GAL BD11s have already been seen in the UK. These are for the 321.

[@essplays6636]

haven't seen any in NX yet, i wonder when they'll get them as they should have been operating electric buses already

[@MostlyBuses1]

@@essplays6636 the picture I saw was in a field so they've probably not arrived in London yet. I'm glad it's been delayed this long though, it gives me some more time to ride the diesels and hybrids

[@essplays6636]

@@MostlyBuses1 makes sense! i don’t see them coming any time soon so i think you’ve got plenty time to still enjoy what’s in operation atm. the older hybrid buses on that route are sweet to drive

[@PGATProductions]

new top video congrats!

[@MostlyBuses1]

Thanks! I was not expecting it to get so many views, especially since I wasn't even planning to make this a video until I randomly saw the Yutong!

[@NicholasAfari-Mintah]

It looks very very futuristic

[@MostlyBuses1]

@@NicholasAfari-Mintah yeah it does

[@jamiep61]

The E400 EV Is available in two versions, the Harrogate Bus Company ordered theirs with a different spec including Cloth Seats and Arm Rests 😊

[@MostlyBuses1]

Yep, there's the normal spec and London spec. I've seen pictures of the ones in Harrogate. They look amazing!

[@MostlyBuses1]

London has been catching up with the times recently with high back seats, Wood effect flooring, a digital iBus as of 2022ish and USBs as of 2019ish.

[@busouting]

Nice video. We are yet to get buses with wipers in the upper deck window. I would love that

[@MostlyBuses1]

That would be a bit strange to see but I guess it would be quite nice.

[@busouting]

@@MostlyBuses1 It'd be nice, I saw a bus with them from Norway. I hope I get to ride it

[@MostlyBuses1]

@@busouting wow! I never knew those existed

[@londonbus_46]

0:43 is this WIM cause when SWR have replacement buses outside my house i saw they were on SWR replacement to Surbiton

[@MostlyBuses1]

@@londonbus_46 Yes it is Wimbledon

[@MostlyBuses1]

0:00 Yutong U11DD 1:27 Enviro400 EV 2:29 BYD eBus BD11

[@TerryJohnson7]

Why does Stagecoach use the TFL moquette? I guess because the old one used the old stagecoach logo

[@MostlyBuses1]

@@TerryJohnson7 I'm not too sure why they use it but I'm glad they do instead of using those grey leather seats

[@MostlyBuses1]

@@TerryJohnson7 I wonder if we'll eventually see a mandatory TfL spec interior like the ones on the Bee Network. Maybe Stagecoach are just thinking ahead

[@TerryJohnson7]

@@MostlyBuses1 Hopefully not but this is actually expected from TFL

[@thebus-ter]

​@MostlyBuses1 it's coz the new leather seats they use on outer london buses don't fit the requirements for the tfl spec, hence why they are using the default tfl moquette

[@ahuman9143]

I have no clue except that I'm glad that ugly old one is now gone... now for the horrible orange handrails too.

[@umarq131]

Nice video 👍

[@ka.Tra170]

The new E400 EV is just absolutely gorgeous 😍😍. I hope to see it on 47 and 436

[@MostlyBuses1]

@@ka.Tra170 The 47's contract is a hybrid one lasting until 2030 iirc (and there will be a part Electroliner allocation from next week).

[@ka.Tra170]

@ Electroliners don’t suit the route on my opinion. These New E400 EV’s would suit more

[@MostlyBuses1]

@@ka.Tra170 There's a chance the 436 could go electric with these so you could get lucky I guess

[@ka.Tra170]

@@MostlyBuses1 if 436 get the New E400 EV’s I’ll be so happy 😍

[@MobilAvenue_]

I think the Yutong looks quite nice

[@MostlyBuses1]

Same

[@Suliplayz5264]

they all look insane

[@MostlyBuses1]

@@Suliplayz5264 they do

[@1bz2002]

Seems a bit long must catch a lot of corners on the nearside on left turns I bet.

[@MostlyBuses1]

I think ADL and BYD have probably learnt from the previous Enviro 400 EV (built in a partnership between them) has a notoriously bad turning circle which caused a lot of problems. So hopefully they've improved by now

[@NewYoutuberOnlyComments-d6q]

@MostlyBuses1 W video. These are the 5th type of mmc-like buses ig. They finally put it into test in london. That means... more mmc generator!!!! XD

[@kristinajendesen7111]

When I was driving Routemasters in 85/86 I was on 12k a year & I had a conductor. Pro rata almost, 40yrs later & OPO, drivers should be on about 60-70k at least. Poorly paid though.

[@thomastully9002]

Loved the RM,Remember running after a 27 Mortlake/ Archway and just about managing to grab the pole on the platform,if I didn’t I was toast,Great days and a wonderful bus,regards Tom

[@kristinajendesen7111]

@@thomastully9002 Best bus ever made and way ahead for their time. Automatic or semi-automatic driving option, power steering, dual hydraulic brakes. If we'll maintained they'll still run rings around a modern bus especially since the leading wheels are up front and not behind you.

[@wclifton968gameplaystutorials]

The model you've shown looks like it's owned by Westway Coaches of Raynes Park, I think, I can only tell by the logo-less livery though.

[@MostlyBuses1]

Yeah it is Westway, they run that particular school contract and the livery is the exact same. I'm not sure why they went for a completely new model but it's up to them i guess. They have a pretty new fleet too

[@AnthonysTransport]

​@@MostlyBuses1Will the Yutong operating along the C7 next week?

[@MostlyBuses1]

@@AnthonysTransport I've got no idea. I've been trying to get more videos of the Yutong but I don't think it goes on the C7 anymore. I guess that's what a rare working is for a non tfl school route

[@MostlyBuses1]

@@AnthonysTransport I've been going out trying to get the Yutong on the C7 for a few days and so far I've only seen MMCs and an ALX400. I did see the Yutong at Francis Grove yesterday but that was not on the C7 (it was around 6-7 PM and I was on a 131 at the time so I couldn't see what route it was on).

[@MrGriser]

Could do won't some more buses on some of the routes in my local area such as on the 267.

[@MostlyBuses1]

@@MrGriser I used to be local to the 267 as well but I think it needs a frequency increase more than new buses

[@MrGriser]

@@MostlyBuses1 What I meant was extra buses to supplement the Borismasters thus increasing frequencies

[@MostlyBuses1]

@@MrGriser oh right. That would be pretty cool but I'd rather they use more hybrids.

[@tango22ah]

What are those bars for on the top deck at the front of the bus?

[@MostlyBuses1]

They're there so that people don't fall over when getting up from the front seats

[@alexselby349]

The Yutong with a non TfL operator, I think for other work (Warner Bros tour?)

[@MostlyBuses1]

Last time I saw one of those buses they were using pretty new MCV eVoSetis so I don't think they'd replace them that soon

[@busexpert1334]

Why do the new byds have the old bus screen design destination boards inside

[@MostlyBuses1]

Because that one is a demonstrator. It's just like LV22AGX

[@mwezimwezi9618]

Looks good, but have they managed to design a bus that does not suffer from condensation on the windows in winter? That is the litmus test of progress in bus design for me.

[@MostlyBuses1]

@@mwezimwezi9618 I'm not about that tbh. People close the windows in the winter all the time (and I don't blame them). But yeah the Yutong and E400 EV do look good

[@mwezimwezi9618]

@@MostlyBuses1 thanks, but presumably the behaviour of passengers has been studied over the years and modern bus design is based on these studies. As a layperson in these matters, surely the problem can be solved by heating the laminated glass by using filaments as in cars, or tiny jets of warm air directly on to the glass? Anyways, I look forward to the new buses coming to our routes . Regards

[@nobody-yr2zg]

Did BYD and ADL end their partnership?

[@MostlyBuses1]

​@@nobody-yr2zg yes

[@athavanainkaran2499]

Do you know which routes will Yutong U11DD use on?

[@MostlyBuses1]

Look at 0:16

[@martinf1736]

Great even the transport comes in by dinghy😮

[@MostlyBuses1]

erm, okay...

[@TabletSlater]

Cool! New Buses!

[@BoeingBagels_sg]

The yutong bus looks Suspiciously similar to Singapore's Yutong E12DD

[@MostlyBuses1]

Probably because they're made by the same company

[@BoeingBagels_sg]

@@MostlyBuses1 ah yes tenku

[@romorobloxkalubi5372]

Are the new yutongs in service?

[@MostlyBuses1]

not in London. As mentioned at 0:16 no Yutongs have been ordered for TfL services

[@Early2000sPs2games]

@@MostlyBuses1then why was the brown one in London

[@MostlyBuses1]

@@Early2000sPs2games because it was being used on a school service.

[@Early2000sPs2games]

@@MostlyBuses1 it will be a loonnnggggggg time before we get these new buses in the West Country

[@carlwalker1843]

The ADL E400EV and BYD BD11 I'm not keen on them both. The Yutong U11DD I've always liked out of the other two.

[@OmarZamel-pv7ig]

BD11 BYDs would be the first things I would ban from london if I was the mayor of london

[@MostlyBuses1]

@@OmarZamel-pv7ig what else would you ban?

[@OmarZamel-pv7ig]

@@MostlyBuses1 Yutongs

[@ROTREV]

@@OmarZamel-pv7ig😂😂😂 ur weird

[@OmarZamel-pv7ig]

@@ROTREV…

[@OmarZamel-pv7ig]

@@MostlyBuses1I’m only joking I like all buses lol

[@LuisWilliamRosario]

Haha the company running that new Yutong is Westway Coach Services. I used to work for them as a driver

[@MostlyBuses1]

How was it?

[@LuisWilliamRosario]

@@MostlyBuses1 it's a good company, no complaints. The owner is a good guy. Coach work itself is just tough, long hours. Couldn't stick to it with family

[@MostlyBuses1]

@@LuisWilliamRosario I never knew Westway did coach routes. I thought they only did school routes

[@LuisWilliamRosario]

​@@MostlyBuses1 There was an LEH C7 sign on the windscreen, which is a school route. He was probably using the stop as a stand? From time to time Westway would do rail replacement

[@MostlyBuses1]

@@LuisWilliamRosario yeah that stop is the terminus for the C7. I also saw the Yutong at around 6 it 7 PM stopping at the same bus stop but I didn't see what route it was on

[@SeamusYap]

Would be better to see the new busses with doors at the back just like the old ones

[@MostlyBuses1]

That's not going to happen since the old ones (New Routemasters) were notorious for fare evasion by people entering through the back door. And there would also be problems with the battery on double deckers

[@billyedwards6941]

I can remember when we made all kinds of things ourselves instead of importing crap from everywhere, once made in England was something to be proud of

[@MostlyBuses1]

The Enviro 400 EV shown second in the video is made in the UK.

[@SJTrains2024]

The enviro 400 ev was made in the uk

[@MostlyBuses1]

@@SJTrains2024 that's what I said

[@johnchin1456]

The Brit gov sold us all out and turned the children into trans retards

[@LokeDoesStuff-i8h]

sick

[@MPDTransport]

I agree, I don't know why everyone hates it it looks epic

[@VitaLicious-f9c]

Iconic red London buses being replaced by black ones, interesting to see if London black cabs turn red on a lighter note. I guess other bus makers like Benz Volvo and others who are primarily from Europe need to buck up and start rivaling these Chinese companies.... In the mad race of all electric powered engines

[@MostlyBuses1]

The black one in this video isn't a TfL one, it's being used by a coach company that runs a few (non TfL) school routes in London.

[@boogiemarsh]

Wait, is that Bromley, Bromley Garage or is that Bromley rd. they have open days ? 321, the old 21. It seems l have to take a ride, just for nostalgia. Sidcup, please driver and step on the batteries haha.

[@MostlyBuses1]

The open day at Bromley Garage was a one off since it was to celebrate the garage's centenary.

[@MostlyBuses1]

It's a shame you missed it since the London bus museum also ran preserved buses but the good news is that there are still several running days planned for this year

[@petersimms4982]

😊coooooool 😊

[@MostlyBuses1]

It is

[@Rob132]

2:56 NOOO NOT MY BABY 321 HELL NAW

[@MostlyBuses1]

@@Rob132 you're actually quite lucky since the 321 was retained with electrics last year so you've had a years worth of extra diesel/hybrid rides

[@Rob132]

@@MostlyBuses1 when will the new buses be introduced

[@MostlyBuses1]

@@Rob132 I don't see them entering service this year tbh

[@Rob132]

@@MostlyBuses1 thanks you also earned a sub

[@MostlyBuses1]

@@Rob132 thanks

[@HaydenTheone28]

It doesn't look that bad actually 8/10

[@MostlyBuses1]

@@HaydenTheone28 agreed

[@HampshireTransport007]

The Yutong looks better than the E400 Evoloutions

[@MostlyBuses1]

@@HampshireTransport007 I prefer the E400 but the Yutong is nice too

[@quasar5610]

Totally agree. Yutong is the only bus with the 2020s look.

[@quickly2593]

Great

[@Da_Samosa]

Amazing vid, yes I’ve changed my comment

[@MostlyBuses1]

I'm actually quite familiar with the C7 now, despite not even going to LEH school. I've tried to come to Francis Grove at the time the bus arrives but as you say it's normally a Westway MMC. I did see it yesterday at Francis Grove at a different time so I guess it was only used once on the C7.

[@MostlyBuses1]

Coincidentally, I've seen the C7 three times now and I now know what route it takes between the bridge over the A3 and Francis Grove

[@Da_Samosa]

@@MostlyBuses1 most double deckers are e400 mmcs at the schools.

[@Da_Samosa]

@@MostlyBuses1 your somehow more familiar with it than me

[@Da_Samosa]

@@MostlyBuses1 I had t change the comment for privacy reasons but at least you’ve seen the Original

[@Surreybusenthusiast]

Yutong bus reminds me of the 2016 ones from tc

[@MostlyBuses1]

@@Surreybusenthusiast Yeah it's quite unique that the 312 has had three types of electrics on it before they became popular in London (the EMCs from Arriva and RATP, the Dennis Dart that was repowered and the Yutong).

[@MostlyBuses1]

@@Surreybusenthusiast Yutong's designs have changed a lot since then. I prefer their older models but this new U11DD is quite nice too

[@Surreybusenthusiast]

@@MostlyBuses1 Yh

[@Surreybusenthusiast]

@@MostlyBuses1 I agree

[@Londonbuses252]

In My Opinion, 129, 321 & SL4 Will Have The Enviro 400 EV Next Generation Because It Will Have The Same Interior As The BYD Enviro 400 & 200 EVs. 😎

[@MostlyBuses1]

Sadly that won't be happening

[@Londonbuses252]

​@@MostlyBuses1 No

[@ELiJah_PRaYed]

The yutong bus looks like a futuristic new routemaster

[@TESL1.10]

500 comments?! and your proper full of life videos are finally beating your lifeless popular video of a train door closing😂😍, I mean there's a reason for it nobody else filmed the Yutong in London lol

[@MostlyBuses1]

Yeah this video blew up lol. And yeah I'm glad those low effort door closing videos from 5 years ago are finally being overtaken. It's kind of sad that so many commenters here seem to hate anything that comes from China though.

[@MostlyBuses1]

I'm glad I uploaded this when I did since the Yutong showed up at a bus event a few days after this was published meaning I was still the first to film it (to my knowledge at least. I searched up the number plate online and nothing was found).

[@TESL1.10]

@@MostlyBuses1 bruhhh imo BYD has created 2 of the most stable and sleek designed electric buses although I think it was a partnership with Alexander Dennis, right?-- Enviro 200 & 400 EV's. Haven't seen that shit catch fire yet considering that electric buses are still something new so faults are expected. (optare which is a flippin british company..)

[@MostlyBuses1]

@@TESL1.10 Yeah it was a partnership with ADL and while I'm still not a fan of the (ADL BYD) E400 EV, the E200 EV is really nice, both to look at and to ride. And yeah the Metrodeckers are great too but unfortunately fire prone lol. Switch were a British company once (Leyland) but they're owned by an Indian company now iirc

[@TESL1.10]

@@MostlyBuses1 ah

[@Southtransportinlondonandkent]

What routes is it gonna use

[@MostlyBuses1]

@@Southtransportinlondonandkent look at 0:16 again.

[@MostlyBuses1]

@@Southtransportinlondonandkent or read the description

[@davidwonderland6584]

Oh man, what hell this coming from?!!... This is crazy that bus! 😧

[@sinnathambythayaparan6121]

i like road master classic london bus

[@MostlyBuses1]

@@sinnathambythayaparan6121 Same. Although it's called the Routemaster

[@WayneTulip-zm9gw]

Very nice.

[@londonbus_46]

2:01 and are they trying to be like the one made from volvo (volvo look so much better)

[@MostlyBuses1]

@@londonbus_46 I think the E400 EV looks nicer than the Volvo BZL

[@tkkbxf]

The legroom on the seats on the rear of the lower deck of the U11DD is awful, it feels like too much compromise has been made to fit the electrical stuff, also the suspension isn't that great and was too bouncy for my liking (I tried their demo when it was in Derby)

[@MostlyBuses1]

Well that's a shame. I haven't been on the Yutong yet but it looks like this is going to be another BYD E400 EV situation. The Metrodeckers are a good example of a good lower deck on an electric since they have a back window

[@michaelbruchas6663]

Parts parts parts? Supply chain from China is a long haul. What British off the shelf parts might be interchangeable? Electric busses need newly trained mechanics. Will they go to China for training or will the bus makers send Chinese nationals to Britain as “contractors”?

[@progamingderash4566]

Good buses but i will defo miss the old diesels.

[@MostlyBuses1]

@@progamingderash4566 agreed

[@MostlyBuses1]

An E400 MMC (45 DG) is on the C 7 today

[@Tram-30]

I don't the UD11 is ugly. I think maybe the hate comes from the fact that it just doesn't fit with all the already existing buses going around.

[@TheAllMightyGodofCod]

I wander, shouldn't we be buying more trams and trolley buses? Those use less resorces to make, ate more reliable, lighter, carry more people and dont habe range issues in the cold or charging times...

[@MostlyBuses1]

That's exactly what cities should be doing but now many cities across the world are dismantling their systems, thinking that EVs will solve their problems and get rid of "ugly" wires.

[@MostlyBuses1]

It doesn't really make sense to me since as you said, you don't have to worry about range on trolleybuses, they also don't have batteries that degrade which means they last longer and therefore will probably save money in the long run. Trams would be great too but I guess some streets in the UK are too narrow for them. They should've never replaced the original trams and trolleybuses in London (and in lots of other countries too).

[@TheAllMightyGodofCod]

@@MostlyBuses1 exactly

[@rkan2]

For every kilometer of tramways you build you can probably buy like 10 electric buses. Yes you need more drivers, but...

[@MostlyBuses1]

@@rkan2 Electric buses don't last as long as trams though, and you're benefiting in the long run.

[@ryankingdrums]

I hope my company (RATP) gets these soon!

[@MostlyBuses1]

We'll probably see a London demonstrator come soon so hopefully it goes on some RATP routes

[@Mubstransportforlondon]

Wow

[@thelondoner614]

I think the Yutong and E400EVs look stunning but the BD11 is just atrocious.

[@MostlyBuses1]

Agreed

[@sterobloc6645]

Should look spectacular when the batteries decide to put on a show! . . . . Always sit nearest to emergency exit. . . Good luck!

[@AmerBoyo]

Cool! Electric is just soooooo much better it’s untrue! Well done all 👍

[@TrainPlaneFan123]

honestly the yutong looks kinda weird imo

[@MostlyBuses1]

Yeah I can see why you're saying that but tbh I think it could be worse

[@williamgrahamwilkinson230]

We build BUSES here in the UK as well! What's wrong with this country, no self protection. INVEST in the UK !

[@MostlyBuses1]

The companies that are contracted to run routes in London can decide what buses to get for themselves. And most operators in the UK are still buying from UK bus manufacturers.

[@MostlyBuses1]

I do understand why people think that publicly owned bus companies should try and get buses made in the UK.

[@dobias28]

Did you know that EV actually stands for "Extremely volatile"?

[@never4ever386]

Said by people who support diesel engine and pollution of local environments.

[@Toodyslexicforyou]

@dobias you’ve never been on an electric bus. Unlucky, no need to be jealous. There only quieter, very good for not disturbing me while they drive around my estate. They more comfortable, those diesel engines shake and shake, you might not realise it until you live in EV LUXURY. I’ll see you on the electric bus in public transport paradise.

[@Edd5hott79]

​@@never4ever386said people who don't enjoy going up in flames and allow foreign regimes to spy on their populous.

[@alrizo1115]

I understand that not getting used to change is common for old people. 🤷

[@Rotterdamseovspotter]

@@Toodyslexicforyouand they’re always defect.

[@LB141toPalmersGreen]

Ugh finally! I’ve been waiting for this The YUTONG looks like a Btec E400EV MK1 I’m not lying really. A 74 plate!!!>!>!!!!!!!!!!!?!?!!!?!? Coool!!! Decent bus icl BYD BD11 is so ugly..

[@MostlyBuses1]

If it wasn't for you this video would've been released on Sunday lol. But anyway, I actually like it (I think the headlights will be a controversial topic). I hope at least one order gets placed for London

[@LB141toPalmersGreen]

@@MostlyBuses1 lol I hope 41 get’s these Or even 196 🤣

[@MostlyBuses1]

@@LB141toPalmersGreen that would look so strange but I guess it still wouldn't be the first time Arriva had Yutongs

[@LB141toPalmersGreen]

@@MostlyBuses1 lol I’ll photoshop it rn.. can I use ur pic?

[@javellsuktransport3588]

@@LB141toPalmersGreen 41 and 196 is getting electroliners. 41 and 196 roads are very tight for yutongs

[@shubhamuprit]

It's from a diesel bus called??????? & Scrapped it

[@MostlyBuses1]

There's no diesel version

[@MostlyBuses1]

The U11DD is a completely new design

[@MostlyBuses1]

@shubhamuprit I'm pretty sure Yutong don't make diesel/LNG/CNG powered buses anymore

[@shubhamuprit]

O ok

[@shubhamuprit]

But they scrapped it to a new bus ev Lol

[@Rotterdamseovspotter]

To be honest those 3 can be scrapped so hard.

[@MostlyBuses1]

Well they are electrics so they won't last long anyway

[@TESL1.10]

This video banged

[@AverageTrainz]

Cant believe this is gonna be new gen London. We went from the great 2000s low floor buses to this abomination. Only somewhat decent one is the new gen ADL EV, also why are all these companies putting 2 sets of seats in front of the stairs 😭😭.

[@MostlyBuses1]

@@AverageTrainz yeah old bus designs were so much better. Although tbh the BD11 and U11DD look more like buses from the past since they're quite boxy which I like.

[@ItsUniqueTiger]

Its basically the same as route 79 😂

[@TheSkarabeush]

Sorry but the new routemaster looks much more stylish.

[@MostlyBuses1]

Yeah I can see why you think that but tbh I still think the New Routemaster is quite ugly

[@paulo.tagoe73]

to futuristic

[@bb-3653]

Honestly the standard ev400s are better imo

[@MostlyBuses1]

I think the downstairs layout on the old E400 EVs (which have been discontinued btw) is pretty bad. They also rattle a lot but I'm alright with that

[@bb-3653]

@MostlyBuses1 the overall lights and shape was what I was truly interested in. The newer ones just look like rehashed 90s busses

[@Londonbuses252]

Who Agrees, Enviro 400 EV Is Better Than Yutong U11DD & BYD BD11! 😎 👇

[@MostlyBuses1]

I agree

[@quasar5610]

No, E400EV looks mundane at most. U11DD is modern and futuristic, and is the only one with the 2020s look. I agree on BYD being not so attractive.

[@hamburger7478]

the yutongs ones r awful, especially the rear bit of the lower deck. E400ev new gen is much better

[@MostlyBuses1]

Yeah I'm not too sure on the back. It won't look great in the tfl all red livery. At least the Yutong's back is better than the BYD

[@never4ever386]

The thing is, better specs mean higher prices.

[@MostlyBuses1]

@@never4ever386 well as long as it isn't a waste of time and money like wood effect flooring I would support them. TfL's future spec for buses is pretty nice (except when the new iBus screens fail).

[@tangerinedream7211]

It's going to be cost to purchase/ lease and how the batteries perform by the end of the lease/contract with TFL. What the green lobby don't publish is that the laws of physics take place. A heavier vehicle will produce more particulates of rubber from the tyre and tarmac/ashfelt from the road surface. Not exactly 100% green is it .😬🤣🤣

[@MostlyBuses1]

Yeah true but I'm pretty sure that even if you factor in the emissions caused by production of the battery and the bus, an electric will be better for the environment than a diesel or hybrid (and they also don't produce co2 at the tailpipe so I guess there are health benefits). But TfL shouldn't be doing this zero emission by 2030 thing, they're going to withdraw buses with plenty of years left in them which will be incredibly wasteful.

[@Londonbuses252]

BD11 Is Bad

[@MostlyBuses1]

Yeah especially the back

[@YellowDogDespiser]

So Ugly

[@MPDTransport]

​@@MostlyBuses1 IM UNSUBSCRIBING FROM YOU HATERS

[@MostlyBuses1]

@@MPDTransport People can have opinions that are different to yours but ok.

[@Londonbuses252]

​@@MPDTransport Please Be Respectful

[@roboko6618]

YuTong looks like it belongs in China more than the UK. The whole design language is foreign and reminds me of those weird Japanese robots.

[@MostlyBuses1]

True, the headlights do make it look a bit foreign here in London but I think the same can be said for the new E400 EV

[@LuanUjupi]

Incase you wanna know, Yutong is from China its the largest bus manufacture in the world however I prefer european buses since their better quality, and I specially dont like BYD because here in belgium it won the order and now our own bus manufacture Vanhool got bankrupt due that, However there were other reasons aswell but that was the biggest impact.

[@tkkbxf]

@@LuanUjupi As someone coming from Hong Kong I agree, Chinese buses won't last long, we had Yutong coaches in HK back in the early 2010s but most of them were withdrawn after 7-9 years because they have a lot of problems and the drivers also didn't like them that much compared to European brands, that's also one reason why buses in HK are mostly based from UK stuff (ADL and Volvo double deckers) until recently with the new BYD electrics, as Chinese products simply can't cope with the demanding operating conditions

[@LuanUjupi]

@@tkkbxf Oh wow, well I dont hate Yutong but I Just dont trust the Quality the bus might be made of due its less stronger than european buses and sometimes they malfuction too fast like BYD buses do, even though technology is very high the product itself should be in good state aswell in my opinion, id rather go for Solaris,VDL,MAN,Ebusco And Mercedes since there buses will at least have more years on the road instead of being stuck on the Depot

[@MostlyBuses1]

@@LuanUjupi Wow I can't believe Van Hool went bankrupt over that. The BYD ADL E400s also feel like they have a pretty bad build quality

[@DHodgson]

Isn't that one of those Chinese buses that I see bursting into flames regularly on KZbin?

[@Ron_TTE]

Yutong looks ugly, the E400EV Looks great, but the BYD BD11 i'm not very keen on

[@ARM1886]

Looks massive but should have been red

[@MostlyBuses1]

The black one is owned by a private coach company and isn't a TfL bus. TfL spec Yutongs have two doors and are red

[@niftynige]

Yutong 😂😂😂

[@amandachang634]

The problem I have with the Yutong bus is it's colour. Anyone with any sort of visual impairment is likely to struggle with knowing the bus is approaching and won't flag down in time for them to stop. I certainly wouldn't be able to see this at night and during our early winter evenings it would have to be fairly close to identify as a bus and not another large vehicle here in London

[@MostlyBuses1]

@@amandachang634 luckily the one in this video isn't a TfL bus. It's owned by a coach company. London buses will be staying red

[@MostlyBuses1]

@@amandachang634 That being said though, Stagecoach has been painting their buses in a black livery which looks extremely boring and unsafe at night (they're doing it outside London though)

[@idontknow12383]

looks like tesla

[@MostlyBuses1]

@@idontknow12383 tesla made a bus!?

[@GarfieldtheDestroyer]

IMO E400EV wins the beauty contest hands down, BD11 comes second (rounded windows look crappy and the interior is bland), and the Yutong just looks weird

[@MostlyBuses1]

I'd say it goes E400 EV, Yutong and then BYD. I think the rounded windows on the BD11 actually look quite nice but the design is just ugly

[@sawi-l3o]

🤮🤮🤮

[@SimonCap]

That is such an ugly bus

[@petercrispin3781]

@SimonCap Which one - both the Yutong and the BYD are particularly lacking in the good looks department externally....and their interior fitments needed better designs for the people who are going to use them...passengers!

[@danielraiter]

More Chinese tat, probably being tracked and can be switched over in the event of a cyber attack - Good work UK

[@MostlyBuses1]

All TfL buses are being tracked anyway. And what kind of information do you think the Chinese government will get from knowing where a bus is!?

[@MostlyBuses1]

And in case you didn't realize, the UK government and TfL don't choose what type of bus to order, it's the bus operators that decide

[@kennyg-888]

These chinese electric buses look great but having cloth seats is so unhygienic

[@MostlyBuses1]

@@kennyg-888 London bus seats are (usually) cloth seats. Yes they are unhygienic but they're much nicer to sit in than a cold, hard plastic seat

[@Londonbuses252]

The Yutong Looks Ugly

[@MostlyBuses1]

I'm actually ok with it, which I think will be an unpopular opinion

[@petercrispin3781]

I agree with that opinion - the front end is really to blame!

[@CitaroProductions]

Looks better than the BD11 in my opinion, looks kind of like a BD11 mixed with a first gen E400 EV

[@MostlyBuses1]

@@CitaroProductions the Yutong's top deck front window is very similar to a first gen BYD E400 EV (I actually mistook it for one when I saw it from a distance since I was far away and couldn't see the headlights)

[@LB141toPalmersGreen]

🤡

[@AberdonaiBrum101]

Naaaah,U guys also got yutong syndrome,In aberdeen almost half is yutong 😭

[@MostlyBuses1]

I've seen the ones in Aberdeen, tbh they actually look quite nice even if they're boring to ride

[@MostlyBuses1]

No Yutongs have been ordered in London though. The U11DD in this video is owned by a coach company

[@AberdonaiBrum101]

@@MostlyBuses1 pelican bus and coach own and distribute ALL of them :D