Sony a7C R: $3,000 Dragonslayer (TOC in description; images in our 16-35/2.8 GM II video)

[@hondahoon2479]

Nikon Z9 owner here…I’m only watching this cause I enjoy Hugh’s reviews, dialogue and photography perspective. I could listen to Hugh narrate anything.

[@3BMEP]

😊🙏🏻🖖🏻

[@timurhant469]

No $#!+, I am not interested in most of the things Hugh reviews, but I like to "Hold that thought" :)

[@nevvanclarke9225]

Same.... I'm using a Fujifilm xt5 and a Nikon d850 and I love both cameras and I have the best of both world's now a full frame DSLR that is still hugely effective and a beautiful Crop Sensor in the xt5 so I won't be switching to Sony but I agree with you I could listen to him talk about anything 😅

[@rcyjeff5242]

Me too (pre Nikon user, now on fuji)

[@nevvanclarke9225]

@@rcyjeff5242 I'm using an XT5 and I'm loving it. I'm now going to say free Fujifilm X 100 V if I can find one but I'm fully invested in Fiji now I just love the colour science

[@petergordon4666]

Finally received my CR. Preliminary observations: EVF much improved from original A7C. Now no need for eye cup. The addition of a rear wheel and 2 function buttons is a plus, especially the second wheel when using manual exposure. Autofocus is rapid/accurate. Sensor seems fabulous. No it is not an M, but I can travel with the 28-60 and have a minimalist kit that I can crop the hell out of the captures. Not a Q, but again I can walk around with whatever fixed focal length I wish. Still will use my M9, but much less likely to upgrade to M11P. My use case for this camera is non wildlife travel, family, street. Z9 for big glass.

[@SlotCarNewsOfficial]

Hands down the most thoughtful review on these new cameras.

[@3BMEP]

Thanks, man - and nice to see you here again! 😊🖖🏻

[@Skipsul]

I still love my A7R3, and did not see a need to upgrade to the R4 or R5, for what I shoot. I like the smaller grip of the R3. But man, this one tempts me. They fixed what I did not like in the prior APSC/7C body line, and it’s compact too. Much to consider.

[@dajobra]

I have been stuck on the A7R2 since launch, still love the raw output. Only 44x33 seems to be a real upgrade like the new gfx100II

[@Oceansknight]

Best review on the new Sony that I have seen. For me it is about the process, not just the end result. What’s the point if the camera does not feel, and give you the experience you seek. Thanks Hugh.

[@kayt4553]

Hey Hugh, brilliant and entertaining as always ... and while I agree with most what you are saying I bought the a7c r and sold my a7r v. The point here really is to get optimum quality in an as small as possible package. It is a toy camera, however, every gram counts in the end. I am very happy with this replacement!

[@hellolau]

Did the same ✌️Couldn’t be happier 😊

[@Chris-13]

do you not miss the better viewfinder and LCD screen from the A7Rv ?

[@kayt4553]

@@Chris-13 Nope … those are good enough for me. May be different for others.

[@joeep46]

I have the A7r5, and I love it. With that said, I want to get a smaller camera for taking street photos. The A7CR will give me the high resolution that I love. Yah, I crop the hell out of most of my photo😅 with clear view zoom.

[@joeep46]

Has anyone used the Voigtlander lens? If so, what do you think? They are small and lightweight.

[@bobdamico1099]

Certainly one of the more entertaining reviews I have watched, love the delivery, but I find it funny that on one hand you joke about people who do not appreciate the wonders and inspiring feel of German engineering in their cameras and then also say to not let others shame one into buying more than you need. I have been shooting for a very long time, and made a good living as a photographer for 40 some years, shooting multiple formats with an almost endless variety of camera brands and systems. Loved some hated others, but at the end of the day the only camera I felt an emotional bond was my first "professional camera" when I started out, a Nikon F only because it was it was my first. I am a big fan of the camera you have with you is the best one to use because it is there. Few years ago I switched to Sony because of what they could do for me as an image creator, an RX1r was the Sony that got me there, updating along the way. I now own an A1 and an A7RV and a number of lenses, as well as a RX1rII. I was curious of the CR with a 24mm as a replacement for my RX1RII. After all that I said I still enjoy your content, I just do not find that a Leica is any more inspiring than others. Almost like the myth that the only cars that are fun to drive and have a soul are ones with a manual transmission.

[@3BMEP]

I’m delighted you have found what works for you; in the end that is all that matters. As for myself? I am used to holding many and sometimes contradictory thoughts at the same time. 😊🖖🏻

[@MrBillkaz]

@@3BMEPsame here my man .. admire your humility …

[@Skipsul]

I did want to push back a bit on the "tool vs. companion" notion - just a bit. I do understand how an aesthetically pleasing and intuitive design can inspire (I love shooting with my Barnack Leica, with its collapsible Elmar 50mm, or my chromey chunky Exakta with its bright and vivid waist-level viewfinder, or the cheap and chunky but homey Ciroflex TLR), but I've never found the Sony to be uninspiring - it is after all a vehicle for inspiring glass (like say the Biotar that came with the Exakta, when it comes to Christmas lights outside on a cold winter night). The menus rarely bother me because I rarely use them, and the button layout has been (once mapped out how I like it) so intuitive that I'm not thinking about it, but about what I'm seeing through the lens. To draw an analogy from piloting a plane, flight instructors warn "fly the plane, not the radios". Your instruments can tell you a lot, but if they become the fixation you'll crash. Too many modern vehicles are poorly informed by smart phones and flat panels to the point where their instrument clusters are lovely to behold, but a nightmare to operate (and I refuse to argue anymore with "voice commands"). Our computers too (save Macs, though they're starting to trend this way), try so hard to "simplify", animate, and beautify everything that they instead infantilize us and treat us like idiots as they "curate" for us, not what we need to use, but what their programmers want us to want to use instead. The Sony menus may be obtuse, and their bodies as boxy as a mid 80s Chevette, but my best friend in high school made his Chevette a means of fun and escape, and the Sony to me vanishes away as look through it to what's beyond it.

[@3BMEP]

Thanks for sharing your perspective!

[@JackieDElia]

Yes, I agree that focusing on your craft vs equipment is very good advice. Love listening and watching your videos. Thank you.

[@MrBillkaz]

It’s amazing and has allowed me to see with greater clarity and understanding how and where I have fgrown .. and also the inverse, where improvements are most needed .. I have found too that being humble and reminding myself when I miss or don’t get what I was looking for most of the time it is a result of me not rising up to the cameras ability ,.

[@andresgonzalezcerda7635]

You nail it. “Tools vs companion”. Bravo.

[@3BMEP]

😊🖖🏻

[@rosbiffy]

Hands down, the most elegant channel devoted to the subject cameras and photography. I'm not looking to buy either of the camera bodies reviewed. I have the A7Siii for video work and A7iv for photography. Hugh knocked me over with the suggestion that WE are the most important element in any camera configuration. That's exactly where I am now. Struggling to develop transparency in my process but also trying to be a bolder more creative photographer. Thank you!

[@3BMEP]

Thank YOU! 😊🙏🏻🖖🏻

[@FenTour]

I have the A7CR is just brilliant, it is so compact compared to my A7R4 I am using it as my go to for lightweight work. Add on the GM lenses… boom. Viewfinder is just fine, it works. Sony have made a blinder, sooooo good.

[@dawoodmethar4639]

How the a7cR in low light performance and ISO ..

[@FenTour]

@@dawoodmethar4639 low light much better than my A7R4, I have shot at over 10,000 ISO with it for street photos at night and was impressive, a quick Denoise in Lightroom and all was good.

[@BrookStockton]

It's kinda nice to come back to this channnel after a few years to check in! Feels like an old friend. Same headshot, same delivery, same passion for Leica industrial design. Keep on keeping on Hugh!

[@3BMEP]

😊🖖🏻

[@petergordon4666]

Thanks, Hugh, for a thoughtful review. FWIW, given that I have a A7C and lenses already used solely for non wildlife travel- and I do enjoy an 85mm FOV- I did cancel my Q3 order. Yes the EVF is primitive, but for most travel situations the outstanding autofocus and reliability are mitigating factors. I am hopeful that the AC7R will allow me to do a simulation- albeit imperfect- of the 35mm Q3 I always hoped would be produced.

[@3BMEP]

Please keep me posted, Peter!

[@iphoneupdate]

Q3 is an investment, it’s more than just a camera.

[@petergordon4666]

@@iphoneupdate As a continuous Leica owner since 1965, I would agree that Leica can be a great investment in photographic enjoyment. No doubt the Q is a fine tool, but for me the 28mm lens is too wide and cropping can only go so far. I do own a A7C with 4 lenses so I am excited at the potential of the new R. Time will tell. Enjoy your Q!

[@iphoneupdate]

@@petergordon4666 thank you sir.

[@petergordon4666]

Happy shooting!@@iphoneupdate

[@sneakingelephant]

The increased resolution and 10 bit video support sound amazing but the viewfinder not being substantially better is what kills it for me. I absolutely love the tiny size of the original a7c and is a joy for travel when paired with some nice compact MF lenses(loxia ones are fantastic). The one thing that always disappointed met was looking through the viewfinder. It’s what helps me focus on what’s happening in front of me while shooting and I would have easily paid a few hundred more for a better evf.

[@criticaltinker]

The physical size of the EVF did not change but the magnification got better and it's more brighter.

[@petergordon4666]

Traded c for cr. Viewfinder not as good as the best, but a significant improvement

[@oliveresch9954]

Thanks a lot for this review, Hugh. I thoroughly enjoy all of your videos. Keep‘em coming!

[@fictitiousproductions]

Wow this is a densely technical and intellectually well-curated review. You must appreciate how clearly and concisley he gives you information. I already subscribe to 20 other photography channels but I HAD to subscribe to this, because he's just fun to listen to.

[@antiseth3964]

I’m at a weird crossroads, because I have an A7IV already, and that has by all accounts an excellent sensor along with some pro features like dual card slots and full HDMI out. I’m trying to decide if the A7CR would be a suitable sub-in because the resolution increase is so dramatic, and I love the compact size that reminds me of my old a6300 (by all accounts still a fantastic camera). I would be giving up the dual card slots, better EVF, and joystick, so it would really be purely a play to have more resolution, and that would be very compelling for landscape shots considering its ability to do pixel-shift high-resolution photography.

[@Mr-Hakim]

I am exactly on the same boat. Already have an A7IV and would like to get an A7CR at some point, solely for the compact form-factor and the 61 mega-pixel sensor.

[@antiseth3964]

@@Mr-Hakim I ended up selling my A7IV to someone in the family who wanted their own upgrade from a Nikon D3300. Then I made the jump to the A7CR. This thing is really incredible so far. Life has been a little busy, so I haven’t had a ton of chances to use it, but already really excited based on the sample photos I am taking. The only downside is that Apple’s built in camera raw library for iOS does not yet support the raw files from the A7CR.

[@Mr-Hakim]

@@antiseth3964 That’s very good to hear! I will probably keep the A7IV and get an A7CR in about four years or so, since I am not in a hurry for a second camera just yet.

[@6gwilliams]

Absolutely superb Herb. Very though-provoking and wide ranging. One of your best ever IMHO. Cheers my friend. As you may remember I shot Nikon, Canon and Leica for 40+ years as a photojournalist before moving over to Sony mirrorless in 2017. I have owned Sony A6500, A7RII, A7RIII, A7III, A9, and currently own A7RIV, A1, A7SIII. I currently own 13 E-mount lenses covering 10mm to 600mm from Sony, Sigma and Tamron, including GM lenses, and Sigma Art lenses which are excellent.. Cheers

[@3BMEP]

🙏🏻😊🖖🏻

[@DonovanMediaCenter]

These cameras seem to be approaching Leica’s world, but we got the Leica Q2 for the experience, the joy of finding images. It feels so right in the hand. And, in a few years when I must surrender it as I retire…maybe I can pick up a used Leica.

[@lifeisgood4519]

Bravo! Bravo!! Well done!! Professional at every level and entertaining from start to finish. Thank you for the amazing content. 📷

[@3BMEP]

So happy you enjoyed it! 😊🙏🏻🖖🏻

[@roadmovies]

“Tool or Companion” says it all. I love having option!

[@ClassyLB]

I recently bought the Q3 43 and was thinking of an option for wide angle interchangeable lenses. I used to have a Sony so I narrowed my options to the a7cii, a7cr, or the a7iv. I’ve watched so many reviews but this one helped me decide that the a7iv is right for me. The shooting experience is something I value and quality evf helps. So I’ll use a Q3 and a7iv for now… until I can justify adding an SL to the line up. Thanks!

[@ArminHirmer]

Holy moly! Now I guess my A7C AND my beloved FPL has to go and make space for the A7Cr! Just as a companion to my Q3 of course.

[@3BMEP]

😉

[@ArminHirmer]

@@3BMEP yeah even the Q3 had to go, A7CR and SL2 in the house. I just love handling the SL2 and pixel shift is much more convenient on SL2 than on Sonys desktop app.

[@3BMEP]

@ArminHirmer yes, it is!

[@zacharybohlman4069]

The first A7C was my first full frame and "serious" camera and got me into the Sony system. But ultimately I moved on to larger Sony bodies for portraits and then sold the A7C to fund an XT5 purchase which serves as my travel and "fun" photo body.

[@stevenwaldstein2249]

Did decide to get the A7CR even though I already have a A7RV and pre-ordered it so I’ve had it now for a little over two weeks. Have plenty of Sigma I-series and Sony small G series glass to use with it and will see what GM glass I feel comfortable using on it. The grip they provided with it is more comfortable than I thought it would be so that’s a plus. So I’m all set for now. A few months back I bought the A6700 as well and the small Sigma APS-C f/2.8 zooms and f/1.4 primes make that a very useful kit as well but I may find those lenses on the A7CR may replace it. The one wild card that I really needed though was a smaller telephoto zoom since my GM long zooms at 100-400 and 200-600 were just too big for it. Enter the Sony E 79-350mm f/4.5-6.3 G OSS which seems great to pair with the A6700, A7CR, and A7RV. I recommend it so far based on my limited experience. Thank you for all your videos. Note: own 2x A1s also that I use for BIF, Wildlife, and sports.

[@rsandilands]

Is the a7CR that much smaller / lighter than the a7RV? I'm looking for an a7 and trying to get clear on the best camera for me.

[@stevenwaldstein2249]

@@rsandilands if you can only have one it should be the A7RV I think. For me I want to travel with two bodies so the A7CR is an ideal backup / second body to use along side the A7RV. There will also be times when I travel were my first body will be an A7RC and the second one will be another compact C body or an A6700.

[@aviator201]

Most relevant review for me in the options I'm considering. Thank you!

[@Horuss12]

I’ll happily watch every video you put out, even when I have no interest (could really give or take Sony systems - entirely subjective of course) - just because of the quality and passion that goes into every one. Great video 🙌

[@3BMEP]

Thanks, Liam!

[@damianip]

I hope the release of these two bodies will drive other manufacturers to see the beauty and utility of a well designed and built rangefinder styled camera. Specifically, I would love to see a "fixed" Sigma FP L or, dare I dream, a full frame L-mount version of the venerable GX8, probably the most enjoyable shooting experience for me in many decades of photography.

[@3BMEP]

I hear you!

[@drewarmstrong4325]

As I fly my sony Cameras on the Airpeak S1... This camera is a game changer. Gives me extra flight time. Got the silver topped A7cr.

[@frankfountain7680]

Another exquisite review! Subtle, informed, witty. Even throws in some investment advice (avoid crypto). I look forward to releases of new gear just to watch your reviews. Thank you!

[@3BMEP]

😉😊🖖🏻

[@SunshineHB]

I have been shooting various digital Leica for the last 10 years. I picked this camera up along with the 35 1.4 GM and the files are beautiful. I was really worried about a lot of the orange skin tones I see online, but that is not a problem whatsoever.

[@1godlandr]

Great video, helped me to decide to get the CR. One test I would love to see for kicks is a test of the a6700 vs the a7CR in crop mode. That’s a 26MP Sony shootout with different sensors but same generation. I don’t know which one wins.

[@billbaker9623]

Anot6her thoughtful and complete review. I tired to get past the EVF on my a7c for 18 months hoping against hope that Sony would come to its senses when they introduced the a7c II. My fingers would have been a blur on the keyboard to preorder if Sony had done nothing except fix that one issue.I am truly disappointed.

[@3BMEP]

I understand.

[@Chris-13]

Totally agree with you , so very disappointed. I too would have ordered without hesitation. But not now . The viewfinder experience is essential for me 😩

[@Tethysmeer]

Same

[@JavierMorenoX]

This is quite something. Putting together in 20 mins a 3D analysis of the industry. And done in a very appealing way indeed. And for non native a lovely English!

[@3BMEP]

😊🖖🏻

[@oliverboston6963]

An excellent, multi-directional and thought provoking review delivered in an equally inspiring way. I’ve been waiting an age for an update to my RX1R ii and now believe (many thanks to you) that the A7CR is just what I’ve been waiting for. The downside being that I’ll have to decide whether to use either the 50, 35 or 24mm G Master on any particular day (planned purchases) but that’s no real hardship. I note the shortcomings but they don’t seem particularly relevant to me ( e.g., I tend to just use the viewfinder as a framing tool so resolution is not that relevant and, as for the flip screen I doubt it will ever see the light of day). Thanks again and keep up the good work.

[@3BMEP]

😊🙏🏻🖖🏻

[@86BBUB]

LOL - not an "update" to a RX1...

[@markl2815]

Personally a great summary and sums up my feeling rather than any real experience … I suspect the Sony is brilliant but Industrial. The Q2 is not for me … I actually want and need the bending screen (broken body) despite being old enough to prefer view finder. Other than that maybe but I’d just regret not buying something with it at that cost. Q3 …. Erm not sure really tbh. The main difficulty is it is a hell of a commitment for something that I won’t have the chance to use enough to like (or not) before that. Especially given it’d be a learning curve for me too Anyway, I don’t have answers … but then I’m happy to shoot most stuff on a GX9 most days so a lot of this is just “do I need it” not “do I absolutely have to have it” plus “yes I want it but ….” Thanks for a really good summary though … top stuff mate

[@sidvicious3129]

Hugh, you have done it again. 👏 Another review that other reviewers wish they could make in a style and poised composure that only you could do and that voice. I love that you said, you don't need and don't let any one make you feel worst, work on your skill first. Are you trying to give James Earl Jones and Morgan Freeman competition in the narration department? I could truly see you Narrating for National Geography or some wildlife program or something, even doing the national TV news. Now let's get this man a contract with a major network, or radio broadcast as his voice must be heard by the masses!!! You are truly one class act.

[@RikMaxSpeed]

The A7CR is what I chose over a Leica Q3. Budget was a concern, the Q3 had months of back-order, and I absolutely need long interchangeable lenses. Everything you said about the poor EVF and mediocre screen is valid, but you get use to the menu system, you can customise what you need and it becomes an efficient top-quality photo power tool.

[@SlotCarNewsOfficial]

Great points about the Cr being a great alternative to the Blad and Fuji cameras.

[@3BMEP]

😊🖖🏻

[@ToviaSinger1]

If I am only interested filming video, and I want the AI features, does the A7CR have any significant advantages over the A7C II?

[@wearetrackclub]

Love how you put this review together! Great insights and great delivery. Really helpful stuff 👍

[@3BMEP]

Glad to be of service! 😊🖖🏻

[@rickymcc8624]

A lovely concept camera with much to like esp when paired with a small 24 f2.8 prime. I have been a Sony shooter now for almost 7 years (formerly Olympus then Nikon film to digital). Now on my 7th body latter trio FX3, a9iii followed by a7Rv. All excellent with circa 16 Sony lenses, most of GM primes. I loved concept of a7Rc. Wanted one, but ultimately felt that for the small weight penalty that my last buy (an a7Rv) was for me a better option. But if they improved rear screen res and made it similar to a7Rv, added a good EVF - perhaps in a mkii re-work then I'd seriously consider buying one as well. I'm still tempted and kove the 'retro' silver look. But suspect if I bought one it would mostly stay home underused. I'd favour the a7Rv for serious general photography. My lovely a9iii for sports or where I didn't need big files or my FX3 for video. I believe in 'right tool for job' concept. Have held a Hassleblad and loved that. Know two friends who shoot Leica (one has 5 diff Leica cams haha) but realise my limitations. Already I'm unable to carry all the kit I own, or could buy, so why buy more. I'm a sucker for beautiful industrial design , done 'right' so get the Hassie/Leica experiential feel. But can't trust myself to buy one as I fear it would lead to significantly more glass and kit I can't properly justify or use. I daren't even borrow or rent one😂

[@jacobh5817]

This afternoon our Sony rep dropped by to show the new 16-35. That looks like a beautiful lens. He also caried a pre-prod version of the A7CR. I would have loved to see lesser compromises on those cameras. That would have given me a reason to buy one and give my Loxia lenses another round in life. These lenses are perfectly sized for a C-body. Yet, with the mediocre EVF (I wear glasses) and the chaotic button layout (I use Leica M and SL2) I think I’ll pass. Also heard that these cameras have the ‘cheaper’ (and much louder) mechanical shutter that Sony uses in the entry-level Alphas. For a EUR3,700 camera that’s not really fitting.

[@3BMEP]

The a7C R shutter reminds me of nothing so much as my M11, so I do t understand why anyone would think it sounds cheap. But with this written: I hear you on the rest.

[@jacobh5817]

It could very well have been the pre-prod demo camera being louder (not cheap) than normal. The Sony rep however confirmed they use the single-curtain mech shutter design found in the entry-level Alphas. The A1 and A7RV are using a dual-curtain shutter mech with more advanced dampening (his words - I tend to not disassemble stuff ;-). Ted Forbes mentioned something similar. Either way, in our studio it sounded much louder than my SL2, let alone the M10-R.

[@riparianlife97701]

Something no one says about the CR vs the Rv is that for on-camera flash, you get smaller shadows, since the flash isn't sitting on a big hump.

[@didiMao]

I have been looking at the a7cr/a7cii vs an m10 and think this helped me choose

[@rosemanbridge1000]

Be happy when that Sept 12th X-Pro4 embargo lifts ;-)

[@bayoff]

Thank you! Best review! I recommended watching it to my friends.

[@3BMEP]

😊🙏🏻🖖🏻

[@kai-uwesachs317]

hi hugh, i'm writing because i think your youtube channel should be devoted more to photography than describing any new camera releases. It's so uninteresting what Sony sells every week as a new camera model. please show more of your wonderful impressions of new york, of what moves you and claudia. and yes, you are right, these cameras have no soul, tell no story. you've been telling us stories for years, very inspiring ones. let sony be sony, i bet, your best photo was not that with a 60mp, 8k, flippifloppiscreentilt was weiß ich noch alles. Liebe Grüße and hope to see more of your inspiring world. big thanks. ❤ (and i know, that these reviews are part of the business….)

[@3BMEP]

🖖🏻

[@petergordon4666]

Thanks Hugh- A7CR pre-ordered this AM.

[@easygoingbutgoing]

Such a great , well thought out review as we have come to expect from Hugh … Makes me wonder about the NYC tour in late March Who do I email to discuss ?

[@3BMEP]

Hop over to /3bmep.com and use the contact form. 😊

[@marcpellas2396]

What i feel is that the A7CR would be a great compagnon to my X1D2.. : eyefocus, Ibis possibility to shoot directly in B&W, small and compact, accessible money wise.. sounds good to me

[@TXTundra-ex8bw]

I have been wanting this camera since its release since I’m so invested in Sony I finally caved and purchased it for $2200 new with the current Sony trade in promotion it’s a great travel camera and a second camera to my A7RV thank you for your assessments it helped my purchase decision

[@3BMEP]

Enjoy! We have the same two camera kit!

[@mablung1114]

Wow. Very compelling. Does anyone know if the a7CR does focus stacking like the a7R5?

[@BKSInan]

It does

[@TheCruisinCrew]

You forgot to mention that you get as a bonus the fully featured APSC lens compatibility with the same resolution as the flagship A6700. I count this as a valuable option for video work or an even more portable solution (for travel for example). Also, I have seen the body for 2.5k... it's an amazing value proposition!

[@3BMEP]

You are so right! 🙏🏻🖖🏻😊

[@ChrisFacciol_LIFELINEPHOTO]

Excellent video my friend. I just bought that camera for my wife. Thank you for your input. I am trying out the new A7RV coming from Canon (40 years+) you are very suave 😊

[@3BMEP]

Glad it was helpful, Chris - thanks! 😊🖖🏻

[@flemmingmorgan1929]

Thank you for a great review. Love your style!

[@3BMEP]

😊🙏🏻🖖🏻

[@artmaltman]

Why 61mp? Is it only for cropping or is there a different aesthetic look vs 33mp. Thank you.

[@a_gg]

Amazing video. What a joy to watch. What of all these cameras would you get for macro studio photography with a flash? I usually shoot jewelry and small objects. The a7rv seems like it would be perfect, but trying to stay within budget, the a7cII is quite compelling. I'm coming from a Nikon D7100 that is quite beat up and I'm yearning for a camera that can help me focus stack with automatic focus bracketing AND I'm hoping the full frame sensor will provide better tonality and colors. My camera that sparks joy to use for me is my Fuji X100V, so I see this camera as more of a tool. Thoughts?

[@martingreenberg870]

As always, I always look forward to your videos. I always look forward to hearing what the other manufacturers are doing. I am not a Sony user. Unless they produced a magnificent camera I’m staying with what I have. No camera is perfect. The manufacturers make decisions and we either live with them or not. Both bodies are highly performant. As you suggest there will be long lines to order these new bodies. Congratulations Sony! 99/99. It is interesting to note with the next gen A7C bodies the entrance to full frame Sony goodness has been raised to $2.5 and 3K. Yes you get a lot for the buck but you must be willing to pony up a lot of bucks. Given there are now no bad cameras you as the consumer have to ask what is it I want? What do I need. How much am I willing to pay for what I want and need? I recently rewatched your Panasonic GX9 review. These new Sony A7Cs are more performant than the tiny Panasonic. I don’t compare the GX9 to a Q3. Comparing these machines is like comparing an Apple to a brick. Yet some people do such things. Go figure. I just purchased a GX9 and have the PL15mm to pair with it. For me, the new A7Cs were never an option. I’m not their audience. Same with Leica. That is OK. I drive a Prius. I will never purchase a Mercedes or BMW. I appreciate what those machines are. I’m not their audience either. I voted on what I want and need with my wallet. I am glad we have choices. What do we need and want our gear to do? How much are we willing to pay for our need and wants? These are the questions. Only we can make these decisions. God bless Sony for creating these new machines. Now the other manufacturers have to rise to the new bar. I, as a consumer, benefit from the increased performance and choice. The free market system at work. Obviously if you were producing these new bodies other choices would be made. Sony doesn’t have the soul of Leica. Very different management. Sony is trying to throw all the hard and software they can jam into a given volume. Leica chooses to factor in the user experience when they design their gear. Neither is absolutely right. In life you have to make choices. Live with the choices you make. Then we need to go out and use our machines. I hope the machines we purchase allow us to capture the vision we have in our mind. And enjoy ourselves in the process. That is the bottom line. I wish I had all these very smart manufacturing people focused on making me happy. I suppose that is my job. Awaiting your next video. Sadly, I can watch your videos in less time than you can produce them. Mask On Nurse Marty (Ret)

[@3BMEP]

Always nice to “hear” from you, Marty!

[@andresgonzalezcerda7635]

“Camera as a companion, not as a tool.” For the 99% of us the 99% of the time…

[@Festvangelist]

I am really diving into studying the Sony a7cr as I like compact form factor, only wish the EVF was better. I have compromised eyesight but use the EVF religiously. It is smaller and about 3 ounces lighter than Sony full frame counterparts. But when adding a great Sony lens the Sony a7cr cannot compete with the aps-c competitors . That is another issue one considers along with price.

[@DavidZvi]

Entertaining video.Trying to think of a reason not to get a A7C R as a travel camera. Size is a primary concern with IBIS and at least a flippy screen (most of my shooting is at off angles).

[@3BMEP]

Claudia enjoys hers!

[@andgainingspeed]

Out of all the Sony related videos that dropped today, I saved this one for last. It did not disappoint, in that it had a unique and thoughtful take on how the new bodies might fit into a kit. I will not be pre-ordering. I'll flog my current body for another year. That said, the 33MP sensor is plenty for me. When I do eventually pull the trigger I'd lean toward the c2 over the 7IV taking the weight savings rather than the better EVF of the latter.

[@3BMEP]

😊🙏🏻🖖🏻

[@Jonathantuba]

I went for the Sony A7Rv for the far better EVF, the tilt and flip screen, plus greater comfort to hold and more custom buttons. The difference in weight and size is marginal over the A7CR

[@3BMEP]

I understand.

[@Bayonet1809]

If you are selling your SL-2, then what will you use your wonderful SL glass on, or are you selling that too?

[@3BMEP]

First, I haven’t been able to part with it yet. Sigh. Second, my thought is to return to an updated SL series at some point, which one, when, depending on specific functionality.

[@albertbarton4663]

a7cii is an affordable powerhouse for enthusiast photographers. Smaller, lighter, affordable become important at 76 & on a fixed income. Combine with Sony's 20mm f1.8 G, 40mm f2.5 G, 50mm f1.4 GM (not affordable), and the 85mm f1..8 FE (super affordable) you have an awsome AFFORDABLE kit.

[@3BMEP]

Agreed, Albert!

[@joshua.eta1123]

I really enjoyed this video…first time watching your channel. You got a subscriber out of me! Entertaining. Bravo!

[@3BMEP]

Welcome!

[@leafsfan71]

Hugh, how do these compare to a Leica Q2 regarding highlight retention? I hate how much i have to underexpose my Q2 images and then work on them in post.

[@3BMEP]

The a7C R's sensor is as good as the ones in our Q3, M11 and SL3s, which is to say: it is SUPERB. I couldn't tell you precisely how much better it is than the Q2 because I didn't bother to compare them as I've had no problem getting what I wanted to out of the Q2 series. I CAN, however, recommend Reid Reviews to you for an answer.

[@erikjohnson4876]

Hi Hugh. Your last line hit home. These are fun problems to have. Let us all remember to build a bigger table, not a taller fence. Unrelatedly, what brand of eyeglasses do you wear. And do you have a special coating to eliminate glare? You look great in them. Thanks for the video essay, as always.

[@3BMEP]

Usually Zenni, sometimes Oakley thanks. Yes, whenever I have the option, I choose MOST coatings!

[@Georgie_B_]

Have you tried the A7RV and did you find a big benefit using Actuve stabilization with that extra stop or IBIS? Any difference between the colours and exposure level of A7RV and A7CR? Thanks so much! Thanks so much!

[@3BMEP]

We own an a7R V - bought one with the 24-70/2.8 GM II right after they came out. Can’t say I’ve noticed a difference, but that’s because Claudia uses the a7C R and I mostly use an SL3.

[@kobebrlw1643]

Your dialog is insane. I wish I could line up what I say like you do

[@andresjaime9634]

You should test new Sony ZV-E1, smallest full frame, new minimalistic design ( FINALLY), 16 megapixels, 15+ stops dynamic range, amazing ISO performance for 2200 dollars and the video and AI capabilities are incredible too. Paires with a Sony Zeiss 35mm 2.8 pancake lens is almost a dream.

[@WolfgangWhyte]

I thought Sony had been quiet for a long time... come to think of it, so have Canon, Nikon, and Fuji... I hope this is the start of something exciting

[@michaelwilson6584]

As my nom-de-plume suggests, Old_Man_Leica has used many examples of the M up to and including the M11 and the SL2 but for about six months or more I have used the A7RV and a selection of GM glass, and love the results. Maybe I have got lucky but I managed to get a A7CR on the release date and so far, so good. I agree the EVF and screen are not up to the A7RV but for autofocus lenses, this isn’t much of a problem. I do use a 35mm Zeiss Loxia manual focus lens on occasion and with this, the A7RV is the better option. Would I go back to Leica? Let’s see what the SL3 brings to the table but on the basis of the last few months, no.

[@21Virtues]

I am trying to decide between the a7cr and maybe paying more to get the a7 rv and I am leaning toward the latter.

[@3BMEP]

I understand. I prefer the handling and EVF of our a7R V, but Claudia has no problem at all with her a7C R and prefers it to the ‘V.

[@21Virtues]

@@3BMEP That is interesting, I think i am also drawn more to ergonomics. I know i wont shoot 8k or weddings. Landscapes, street, portrait and commercial, yes. So maybe i aam being an ergonomics snob. That viewfinder and the screen and 2 cards is drawing me more. But, I see why the ACR is tempting to save almost 1000 dollars and maybe get a good prime. Decisions, decisions. Your videos are awesome by the way. Very engaging.

[@jonathonnordyke]

so maybe someone here can help me.. i love the Q3 like really do but 6k is a lot of money i only do photo i don't mess with video that much so 1. is the Q3 worth it for photo and experience? 2. is the A7Cii or A7Cr a good alternative for the price?

[@dojomediaboss]

great video. question....would you trade in an a7iv for an a7cr? I am seriously considering this.

[@rsandilands]

What did you end up doing?

[@thanyawong]

I remember that you own A7C. Will you add A7Cii or A7Cr to your arsenal to replace old A7C?

[@3BMEP]

We don’t own an a7C, but we DID buy an a7C R for Claudia! 😊🖖🏻

[@sonofoneintheuniverse]

Amusing that Three Blind Men complain about the viewfinder! Find my A7cr viewfinder suberb for framing, while the sticky auto focus takes care of that perfect focus.

[@3BMEP]

I have to admit: that IS amusing. Well done!

[@jerrywishner3503]

While the new Sonys may night provide the same joy of a Leica, their release does provide me the joy of hearing one of your reviews once again. 😀. Been way too long. Hope you and Claudia are doing well.

[@3BMEP]

Hey, Jerry! Catch me up via DM!

[@DonaldHawk]

Still haven’t been able to order Q3 because of backlog and now this comes along. I’ll see if I can grab one with Sigma 24mm f2 tomorrow

[@3BMEP]

Keep me posted!

[@DonaldHawk]

@@3BMEP Maybe crazy but B&H and Adorama have Hasselblad x1d ii 50c + 45p for $4200 so thought I’d try

[@eugene4950]

Ordered a7rc , while waiting for a7r VI, that one will have a bigger jump from last 2 gens imo

[@johnpeterson7264]

It is a shame about the viewfinder, I’ve used and liked the original A7c but the viewfinder is just tragic. I was really hoping the updated versions would offer more dramatic improvement.

[@omi.0007]

I am a mobile photographer and I won the national award from Bangladesh in the Sony World Photography Awards 2024. So yes, device doesn't matter.

[@nk-oi3oo]

I purcharsed this camera for $2350. Is that a great deal? What glass should i purchase?

[@3BMEP]

it is - congrats! Which lens or lenses to buy is a much longer conversation, but of if I had to choose just one (and intended to shoot video and/or JPEGS) I’d probably go for the Sony 20-70/4 or 24-50/2.8 - or the Sigma 65/2.

[@thomashilmersen711]

I agree that the Sony would be an alternative to the SL2. However, even with the smallest AF lens, it is still less pocketable than the M11 with e.g. the 28mm Elmarit.

[@dwightlooi]

What's the difference between the A7Cr Black and the A7Cr Silver? Why is one $100 more than the other?

[@willcram8350]

The black and silver camera variants have identical specifications and differ ONLY in the colour of the top plate. Silver is perceived as a more 'retro' look (I for one prefer it) and some people are happy to pay a small premium for that.

[@BenSussmanpro]

Thanks for this entertaining review. The A7CR as a backup is enticing but I’ll stick with my old A7R4, combined w/the 40mm f2.5, makes for compact enough street shooting in dodgy neighborhoods.

[@JoseTheRover]

Great analysis as usual

[@dopagony9946]

I just got this camera coming from a Leica Q2. I have to say that I am not impressed with the picture quality. I am using the FE 85mm 1.8, is that the issue?

[@3BMEP]

Depends upon the nature of your dissatisfaction!

[@dopagony9946]

@@3BMEP Looks a bit grainy and soft details when cropping in, not as sharp as the Leica.

[@mikelyon5595]

Thank you for sharing your wisdom!

[@3BMEP]

😊🙏🏻🖖🏻

[@alexdubois6585]

I was also initially in the same position, but there is a big flow with the camera unless you are doing landscape, and even then... The buffer depth. The SD card bandwidth is not sufficient for the size of the pictures. If you are OK with that..., then it is a very promising camera. I am not a pro, so I may be wrong... I am on Fuji X-T3 and might move to Sony because of these C cameras...

[@jeffreytaylor6257]

I stayed to the end and am glad that I did. Be well sir. JT

[@3BMEP]

😊🙏🏻🖖🏻

[@deanasteere]

I just got so much information and I think therapy? Thank you for this video. Leica 😍😍😍 But alas, Sony will do.

[@SdeGat]

Very interesting and entertaining review. 👍 I’m a bit puzzled with the experience/companion concept though. 💁‍♂️ I am a Nikon/Sony shooter and was considering a smaller travel camera like the (impossible to get) Fuji X100VI. Maybe the X100VI would be a better experience but I now have to consider the A7CR. Would I prefer the (hugely expensive) Leica to find out about the « experience ». 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@3BMEP]

Think of Mazda’s Miata campaign - “rider and horse as one” - and there you have it, which ALSO means: “to each his own.” 😊🖖🏻

[@SdeGat]

@@3BMEP Thanks for the insight. 🙂 I guess it is hard to understand without actually trying it. (It's hard to find a Q3/Q2 to borrow 💁‍♂)

[@oliverkoch2129]

Brilliant, informative and entertaining review. Technology is amazing and unquestionably plenty sufficient for me. Yet, don’t get why most brands find it so hard to replicate the outstanding user experience and simple, yet highly functional menu layout that Leica offers. It really shouldn’t be that difficult.

[@3BMEP]

😊🖖🏻🙏🏻

[@fammilogga]

Such a great camera, but missing tilt screen and joystick is a complete deal breaker for me

[@krolldavid]

Makes perfect sense to me. It’s why I prefer my older Leica with less features.

[@ricardorgomez]

Damn, that's a pretty camera. I so wish Panasonic would come out with a successor to the GX8. Which I owned and loved but sold because it sat on the shelf for so long once I got my G9 and was doing lots of shoots. I miss it. I'll probably get the Leica DLux-8 for its portability. But I'd be down for a GX8 successor. One can hope. Yes, the color science on Sony isn't to my liking. I don't like the menu system. I've never liked the ergonomics of Sony cameras. Not for me. But it sure is pretty....

[@howardkastner5843]

Inasmuch as you’re selling your SL2, are you also selling all of your L mount lenses?

[@3BMEP]

Nope.

[@howardkastner5843]

So, you'll use them with the Lumix S5ii or are you going to hold onto them waiting for something better from one of the L mount partners?@@3BMEP

[@3BMEP]

@@howardkastner5843 Yep. 😉