Throne & Liberty | Liberator (bow/staff) PvP Guide (with gameplay analysis) from RANK 1 Wraith EU

[@hroxyz1]

Small correction regarding the max range for Flash Wave, even though the range indicator extends further, it doesn't hit past 30m range which you reach anyway using the Karnix Bow. Thanks @Casin18.

[@f00cuss11]

pve bosses setup plz (peace bosses)

[@hroxyz1]

@@f00cuss11 Hey I'm using the build at 17:13 with Shade Revenant guardian. Start with the Deadly Marker then full blast your spells. Perhaps there is better, I'm not too much of a PvE chad, just doing what's work for me.

[@cypher9000]

One thing that I think is quite important in the Toublek vs Karnix debate is Toublek's bow is WAY cheaper to fully trait. On EU EA auction house Toublek's heavy attack chance is 140 lucent while Karnix is 470.

[@hroxyz1]

@@cypher9000 That's a very valid point :)

[@marjorietoribio4789]

This is , hands down the best pvp guide I have ever seen for any class. Showing detailed strategic gameplay and even what foods to use?! Well done, sir. 👍🏾

[@hroxyz1]

Much appreciated :) Another updated guide is on the making, explaining more build choices.

[@aria24K]

Honestly such a great video for people who are struggling with the class. Like legit every question answered. Good shit.

[@hroxyz1]

Thanks mate very appreciated :)

[@Hermione_Sunfall]

Thank you, this PvP guide answers most staff/bow questions. You got yourself a sub looking forward for more content from you.

[@hroxyz1]

Glad it helped! :)

[@AFGautonompunk]

i am both grateful as impressed by how simple this seems to be. i hope my enemies never find your channel.

[@hroxyz1]

Haha I wish everyone find it out. To be fair I rather share knowledge and discuss things so people learn what they need to, get better, and we get better fights :) Our direct competition on Wraith often ask me some information and so about bow/staff and I'm always glad to help.

[@AFGautonompunk]

@@hroxyz1 in the end, that's what we should want as competitive players, so that skill can eventually overtake gear. i hope we have a blooming pvp community like guildwars or starcraft ii still have (the games i come from)

[@hroxyz1]

@@AFGautonompunk yea I fully agree with that. I always been kind about sharing knowledge even with my "enemies" unless they're total d*ckheads haha but so far ain't the case on Wraith :)

[@sabritalhabulbul]

literally, the best video ever watched and gave me lots of information based on experience. If I would be in your guild, I would be sad to share that much useful information on new game. Jokes aside, thanks a lot.

[@sabritalhabulbul]

also got a question i would like to ask about weapon masteries; please explain why you don't prioritize cooldown reduction over burning damage? Thanks in advance.

[@hroxyz1]

Thanks man, I'm really glad it help. I use the Attribute mastery for the 5% Magic Damage Dealt, since I main hand the bow due to my max range and attack speed being higher on it. I probably would play it for staff/daggers though to get the CDR since I would have much more staff skills like Meteor or Ice Spear. The only long cooldown from my staff right now is Lighting Strike, I mostly use bow skills.

[@L3MON_Haze]

confused about skill rotation, like deserved anyways for the work that has been put in

[@hroxyz1]

@@L3MON_Haze probably because I didn't tall about it. For pvp it's hard to talk about skill rotation, it's very dependent on the situation.

[@L3MON_Haze]

@@hroxyz1 Can I pls have ur discord? I will send u my skill bar, and hoping can get some advice from u what should be changed.

[@uneffable1212]

As another Bow/Staff user whos contesting top PvP (NAW Lunar Server) this was nice to see and compare my builds too! Great content man

[@hroxyz1]

Nice, I hope you guys having a nice competition there :)

[@uneffable1212]

@@hroxyz1 Currently the top Guilds (1,2,3,5) are in an alliance, but we are currently rank 4 and pushing (: trying to get more guilds actively pvping during conflict

[@hroxyz1]

@@uneffable1212 Nice :) Yes it's never easy to fight again already existing alliance that is dominating but it's worth it when you finally get to beat them! :)

[@kulelive]

Very good vid. Thank so much. I was strugling with the melee GS players and now i have a chance and hope to challenge them 😈

[@hroxyz1]

Glad it's helping. Obviously it won't be 100% win rate vs GS but it can help to get some outplays :)

[@MaxWagner-l4i]

BIGUP, very interesting video and good quality, youre voice and the music at the beginning , awww

[@hroxyz1]

Thanks man :)

[@c0cky_p4nth3r7]

a top player sharing all his knowledge... thanks bro much appreciated

[@hroxyz1]

No worries :)

[@romarbg5046]

This have been the best video about Bow/Staff out here, thank u ❤. By the way is it possible to show ur PVE skill specialization page and rotation?????? 🎉

[@hroxyz1]

Glad it helped :) I didn't want to cover too much PvE because it's not really my focus but I could do a video about it.

[@globalzero]

finally a complete build thank you

[@hroxyz1]

No worries glad it helped :)

[@tehcarnage515]

That GS player is so bad, you outplayed him so much! Well done! GS OP

[@hroxyz1]

Such a bad player indeed

[@saotomamomare3321]

A good video, thank you for sharing your knowledge of fighting the game🎉. Can you tell me what are the parts of your computer?😮

[@hroxyz1]

No worries. I'm running a Ryzen 7800X3D, a Nvidia 4070 Super and 32Gb 6000Mhz.

[@leovy7213]

Very clear and good guide video!

[@hroxyz1]

Thanks mate :)

[@leovy7213]

im a Liberator too i just need power ring and shadow trouser :( hopefully i can get those 2

[@hroxyz1]

@@leovy7213 with the new world boss boxes you should be able to get the Shadow pants if you attempt Junobote every time it's available. It's a big W from AGS for adding these boxes. For the Power Ring, it's a matter of farming lucent and observing the market. Usually they're cheaper after the Weekly Missions reset since people wanna sell asap. Or get lucky and get it from the Weekly Missions haha. I wasn't but bought it for 5.2k lucent.

[@leovy7213]

@@hroxyz1 in my region server power ring cost like 10k 😅 hoping im lucky this weekly reset

[@hroxyz1]

@@leovy7213 Oh yea indeed it's very expensive!

[@DenikoTTV]

you are great at this job! well done. can you add your questlog link on next videos?

[@hroxyz1]

Questlog is in the video description but here it is again: questlog.gg/throne-and-liberty/en/character-builder/ImmunityWithTheExtraVictory?build-id=322002

[@ayogod-9307]

bro thank you !!!! i was literally about to switch to a new class and swipe my step moms credit card .

[@hroxyz1]

Glad it helped you :)

[@sempiterno3243]

Just do it anyways

[@hroxyz1]

@@sempiterno3243 Hahaha true

[@mvryck]

Lets go 💀

[@alexanderanghel7946]

You steal your step moms money to play the game??

[@deanv_x]

you absolute pumper! Thanks for the guide!

[@hroxyz1]

@@deanv_x thanks mate ❤️

[@jinxan1808]

I like the flow of the video! May I ask what font did you use? It looked amazing:O

[@hroxyz1]

Thanks man :) It's Azeret Mono, I don't fancy anything and edit with Microsoft Clipchamp, it's one of the base font.

[@PSK7be]

top la vidéo, je me rend compte que mon build pve va etre bon a changer :P

[@hroxyz1]

Pour PvE il y a plein d'options valables :)

[@nunyabusnes7207]

Your English is very fluent no worries bro

[@hroxyz1]

Haha I wouldn't say that but thanks :)

[@Airsuprem]

nice video ty dont u have mana issues?

[@hroxyz1]

Yes sometimes when I stay alive for a while I get oom. Usually I quickly replace one skill with Inner Peace, ask for a bow player to pop Nature's Blessing and quick recover all my mana then switch back.

[@HikimaruL2]

Very good video, my only question is about the passives you use for mass pvp, I see that you get the two passives that requires you to stand still, however, do you really manage to activate them during a mass pvp ? It seems like we are always running

[@hroxyz1]

@@HikimaruL2 indeed the uptime on these 2 passives isn't optimal, it really depends situations. If you see that you have time to stand till for 2s toward the end of your Flash Wave channelling then do so. You can sometimes find good positioning on some height and free cast while standing still, it depends the arena. It's something happening a lot during Castle Siege due to the terrain.

[@julienbarbault9454]

superbe video, merci ! :)

[@hroxyz1]

De rien :)

[@gentlemanjack4083]

Amazing video. I wasn't able to find information about how to build properly Staff/Dagger for PvP ? Should I build ranged and magic evasion ? is staff and dagger even viable in pvp or it's better to respec to bow and staff?

[@hroxyz1]

@@gentlemanjack4083 on staff/daggers I would definitely go Evasion since you have more passives that get you higher Evasion. And yes staff/daggers is really solid in PvP too, simply more difficult to play because of the need to pick the right target so you do lot of AoE damage, while Flash Wave by pass this aspect. It's much better for smaller scale due to your mobility, while staff/bow is the ZvZ DPS king.

[@gentlemanjack4083]

@@hroxyz1 would you say ranged/magic evasion or melee evasion would be better for staff/dagger? it's hard for me to decide but I'm feeling that I need to build ranged/magic to survive because I have few tools like talus staff and purification stone to avoid some singular melee attacks but ranged has super heavy damage.

[@hroxyz1]

@@gentlemanjack4083 for larger scale, ranged and magic evasion is probably the best. Now if it happens that there is a heavy GS meta on your server or you're more into smaller scale PvP, you have the option to go Melee evasion. Here is a Questlog I have done for Melee/Magic Evasion: questlog.gg/throne-and-liberty/en/character-builder/AnnihilationAndTheParalyzingRing?build-id=638988 It would be even more optimal once we get T2 dungeons that should unlock a few more T1 items that are still locked. It's just hard to fit 2P Reapers in a Melee Evasion build and still get enough Hit.

[@tehcarnage515]

Insaneee! Cool video ❤

[@giblikidd]

Great build and i like your accent!

[@hroxyz1]

@@giblikidd haha thanks

[@ItsMrO]

Great video bro ❤

[@hroxyz1]

Thanks mate

[@diaxer]

What so you think about collision chance and recistance on the acc for bow/staff? Thnx for the video aswell!

[@hroxyz1]

@@diaxer I might be wrong here but collision resistance works like evasion, so you have to get more resistance than enemy chance. In my current build I would have at most 200 collision resistance, same goes for silence or sleep resistance. You can only cover the base 200 chance while many build that have 60 Perc are at 300 chance. So it makes your collision resistance or any resistance useless.

[@mrmurloc9079]

Great Video, very helpful! Could you maybe add the skill specialization for PVE into Questlog? Would help a lot :)

[@OXIIIE]

What would be a good replacement for the pants? like you said those pants are hard to get... any suggestions? great video though.

[@hroxyz1]

Hey, I just did one build, it's obviously not optimal but I believe you would do fine with it: questlog.gg/throne-and-liberty/en/character-builder/ImmunityWithTheExtraVictory?build-id=1100938

[@barsaydogan6673]

thank you so much man

[@hroxyz1]

No worries hope you get all the information you wanted :)

[@Kryptuq]

omfg im sleeping on those guardians wtf!!! XD I'm kinda using same build like you just with junobote cloak and belt of bloodlust but im running the lady guardian xD Currently im 3rd Rank on my Server and i didnt read anything about those Guardians. I will unlock them tomorrow the stealth one sounds so fucking op LOL Edit: Also, didnt you get lucky for Talus Staff or you prefer Umbra?

[@hroxyz1]

Nice :) Lady Knight is still a good choice, I just rather chose a guardian that allow me more aggressive plays. Lady Knight you might lose it within a second if you get hit by 2-3 Flash Waves. I don't need Talus for now, I'm mostly focused on ZvZ and don't feel the need for Talus. It's a very good staff when it comes to smaller scale PvP / arena due to its passive being a big counter to GS players though.

[@georges.154]

Hey great video! What is that dash you used after the dodgeroll on 33:38?

[@sabbahtt]

Bow Q. If u perfect your block u can press again and dash.

[@hroxyz1]

Yea it's bow block when you do a roll block instead of static one. Super strong to distance your enemy, especially vs Melees.

[@ozalo9382]

Hey man, nice video. Just wondering why the crit damage 2 piece set when your crit chance is low? Is it just for range attack on the hand and the hit chance in pants?

[@hroxyz1]

@@ozalo9382 it's actually a good question and I have been thinking about the 2P Ghost for the 18 Damage instead however not everyone is running Endurance builds so it's a gamba I take. Usually daggers users will run Endurance so I should be able to crit, it's mostly against bow users and tanks that damage will be probably reduced.

[@zankyou8944]

Bro i know this is a totally off-topic question, but i noticed you have the fish-tails baits in your inventory, which you can get only by dissolving some fish, are they useful? maybe more chance for blue fishs?

[@hroxyz1]

I think you have better chance to get blue fishes yea but you can't get sacks by using them, at least it was like that in KR. You can get sacks only using the fish baits.

[@LittelBasher]

Hey nice VIdeo. Why do you use Rapidfire stance instead of Steady Aim?

[@hroxyz1]

Actually you could use Steady Aim for small scale PvP / PvE build, as for large scale I just think that a bind target dies so quick that it's not worth using it.

[@LittelBasher]

@hroxyz1 okay, i thought since its also for opressed target, it would be good for mass sleeps and stuns.

[@hroxyz1]

@@LittelBasher "Oppressed" is the statue for bosses if I'm not wrong. Since bosses can't be bind, they have a unique statue instead. The same goes for stuns and perhaps sleeps.

[@LittelBasher]

@@hroxyz1 ohh alright ty.

[@mavdoc6668]

Great video. My planed Temp lookes nearly identical to yours. The only struggle i have is with Magic + Ranged Evasion vs Endurance. I already began to put Magic and Range Evsasion on my items, but evertime seeing something other let me struggle again. I´m not in a guild for mass pvp so i only do small scale 3v3 Arena or Small scale Open world pvp. Any advice or thoughts about it would be really apreciate!!

[@hroxyz1]

@@mavdoc6668 I could do a follow up video to explain Endurance vs Evasion especially on bow/staff and in general. My tldr is that with the current gear we have in T1, you barely won't have any chance to evade attacks unless you have Victorious Energy active. It's purely theoretical but I assume that any competitive player will be running at leat 900 Hit, probably more around 1k Hit. Unless you sacrifice some damage for more Evasion items, you will get around 1k Evasion too so you won't evade anything. While Endurance works at all time. Also in T1, apart of the daggers players, builds rarely go over 1k Crit Chance so you completely nullify Crit Chance from many builds and even reduce the damage you're taking.

[@leovy7213]

​@@hroxyz1 So the best option is endurance....

[@matt199aaa]

good video! don't you get targetted by xbow spinners in zvz? how do you survive that with 11k hp? even with 16k hp I get very low

[@hroxyz1]

It does happen. Your Shield bow passive usually helps a lot if the spinner uses poison, otherwise your Ranged Endurance / Evasion should do the trick. Very few spinners are a threat to me, it really depends on the timing.

[@acilimistik]

@@hroxyz1 do you think melee evasion is a choice for bow staff?

[@hroxyz1]

@@acilimistik I think it's a way to big sacrifice stats wise. You would lose lot of damage. There are these 2 builds that I have been theorycrafting, bow/daggers and staff/daggers, while still using 2P Shadow. In case it can help you to adapt it for bow/staff: questlog.gg/throne-and-liberty/en/character-builder/AnnihilationAndTheParalyzingRing?build-id=182597

[@johnallenespayos2049]

Great video. Thanks for the detailed explanation. May I ask if I can use the same gears but I run it with Toublek bow and Toublek staff? Obv I cant reach 50 strength without Umbramancer, should I run it with 70 dex and 50 perception? Would appreciate your response. Thanks

[@hroxyz1]

Yea it's a viable yes, at least you gonna have higher Crit chance which gonna be better with the Crit Damage bonus from the 2P Shadow :)

[@johnallenespayos2049]

@@hroxyz1 thanks a lot man! i'll push with this build then.

[@cdgDev]

was wondering the same cuz i'd maxed these 2. Thanks for the info, mainly bcuz my build es pve oriented, btw i think i should tap a karnix isntead toubl :/

[@richiem5753]

would you still use umbramancer staff over talus staff? nice guide btw

[@hroxyz1]

For bow/staff yes, the 15 stats from Umbra + CDR is too strong. However if you're playing small scale PvP more often or your server is heavy GS oriented, Talus can help you to deal with GS engage.

[@sabbahtt]

great video but what is devotion sir ?

[@hroxyz1]

I thought I explained it at some point. It's a Greastword skill that your tank can use, it creates a link with each group members in range and the tank is taking damage instead of you. It can't be used in any circumstances and you need to avoid being too stacked otherwise your tank might take insane damage from AoE hitting everyone at once.

[@miguelcedeno363]

@hroxyz1 Thanks for the guide, just left the PVE skill specialization ^^

[@hroxyz1]

No worries :)

[@Bankai90]

you rekt me today in pvp event ;D Just curious cuz maxroll seems to favor collision resistance over debuff/buff duration, but I see u don't slot that one, any advice here on which to pick?

[@hroxyz1]

Interesting choice for DPS. I don't think you can get near enough collision resistance to be actually valuable. I assume it's to avoid Tornado, my advise would be to position better in first place since you're a RDPS then on the first Tornado you get hit by, doge roll on your way down so you don't get instant Tornado again.

[@aliascesar]

I have a question. Now with the T2 dungeons, does your build change? i see you have blue gear.

[@hroxyz1]

Yes I will have a video posted tonight or tomorrow :)

[@hsp8933]

Whats the point on running 890 ranged evasion with endurance? Many will have 900 hit or 1k hit so all those stats are useless

[@hroxyz1]

My build ain't finish, there is one more trait I can get ranged evasion on then I have Victorious Energy getting me to nearly 1.5k Ranged Evasion. I see it like a bonus defensive trait, I don't count on it however if I evade a few hits while Victorious Energy is active I'm happy with it.

[@papotaco2628]

I didn’t even think about doing this, I run endurance but realized I could use evasion… ur a genius mate. lol I’m adding range evasion to my traits tomorrow!

[@hroxyz1]

@@papotaco2628 Yea often guides tell you to go either endurance or evasion while you can combine both. Considering T1 meta is heavy on ranged DPS (Flash Waves and spinners), adding some chance to evade on top of your Endurance has a good value imo. More than Mana regen for sure.

[@zankyou8944]

Also i need to Ask something bru, do you think as a GS/Dagger , when i have a piece where i can get hit or magic/ranged evasion, what i should get? I'm stuck in the doubt if i should focus more into HIT or more into ranged/magic evasion ( to stack more along the traits and the dagger op passive )

[@EnerGiHD]

Ty for that, I have the same as you except I have really full endurance, not even a little evasion. Do you think it's good or should I change to put a little evasion?

[@hroxyz1]

I just posted a video explaining a bit better my choice if you wanna check it out: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pZTclnyaqtmqpac

[@joolion8178]

eclipse is my favourite fun :D

[@hroxyz1]

Haha yea I find it fun too but many people are complaining from eclipse so.

[@lun4tik]

On small scale you have decisive sniping specializations but not using it on the bar, where should that skill be slotted? over inner peace maybe?

[@hroxyz1]

Good catch, yes indeed I would replace Inner peace definitely :)

[@Singedbeast]

how can we get rid of pvp protection? sometime the enemy is far and if i flashwave it wont hit them because im still protected. Do i always have to hit someone to disable pvp protection or is there a button i can click so i won't have to attack anyone.

[@hroxyz1]

Unfortunately yes, try to get a frontline target prior to fight, you can throw a Chain Lighting so you get in combat then Flash Wave. It sucks but no choice.

[@hScuz]

I'm confused by your setup for small scale, you don't have decisive sniping in the skills but you use mastery points for it?

[@hroxyz1]

Yea because I was showing some variant I'm sorry about that, you can replace the Inner peace with it.

[@WhoCrimz]

Merci pour ta vidéo, je pense que je vais tester avec la même armure et casque... Les miens me donne beaucoup plus de stats de base mais moins d'évasion, j'arrive à être à 50/60/40 actuellement niveau stat

[@hroxyz1]

Plus de hit tu veux dire ? Le hit est une stat tres importante en pvp.

[@rivalry5023]

Hi! Im new to this game. Ive seen many top players from my server (Japan) were mainly using bow/daggers. Which one you think is better daggers or staff combined with bow? Or there are any scenarios that really fits their playstyle?

[@hroxyz1]

Hey man, it depends what's your target content. Bow/daggers is doing very well in both large scale and smaller scale PvP, with lot of mobility, can sneak some very good Flash Waves with the invi while bow/staff is mostly large scale PvP, really shine in ZvZ and Castle Siege with infinite cooldown rotation. Doing really well in PvE for the same reason.

[@77metin2]

good video, not well explained the specializations or the skils, because it has PvE, gvg and melee, we wait a lot for this video, I hope the next one is more complete, it is not critical, because I am your fan!

[@hroxyz1]

Yea I get your point. I could get more in-depth on skill specialization in another video. PvE and small scale I don't wanna comment too much because it's not the content I focus on. Thanks for the feedback :)

[@bigpopppapump]

Hey bro, as a suggestion because this build is very hard to obtain with the shadow pants and obviously that ring, do you have any good alternatives to these?

[@hroxyz1]

You can play the Shadow chest and Phantom Wolf pants, it won't be as good but you will be enjoying the 2P Shadow bonus. Otherwise you can ditch the 2P Shadow and play 2P Ghost Wolf with either Grip of the Executioner or Shock Commander Gauntlets. I would have to take the time to theorycraft something for it. However just so you know, as we're getting closer to get T2 dungeons, it should also unlock new ways to get the world bosses items like Shadow pants. Another way is to join a guild for the weekly raid bosses and ask for the pants if it drops.

[@impecabledavid6621]

I have a question can you explain me why you go full endurance and not full melee evasion you can get 1 shot from melee right? or I understand that wrong?

[@hroxyz1]

I'm not really getting 1 shot by melees unless they get a good timing because I'm out of stam. Also I rely on my group to peel for me if I get engaged by a GS player and getting rekt. Overall going Melee evasion would be more adapted for small scale PvP and if using daggers (bow/daggers or staff/daggers), it's a big damage lose to max out enough Melee evasion.

[@impecabledavid6621]

@@hroxyz1 yea bad for me i think it's not so important to go with full endurance , we are i think 10-15 people in the guild and i'm always target and i get ez stun . and without the melee evazion i will be 1 shot from the oders players . bcs i dont have 20 ppl in front of me to block the skils . then should i go full mele evezion for less pvp grup ? I hope you understand bcs i`m not so good at Englich.

[@hroxyz1]

@@impecabledavid6621 It's not so much about having people in front of you but staying close to your group and especially your tank so he can peel for you if needed. In theory you should be safe from GS stuns with a Purif Stone, the worst is getting Prone, but it only takes your tank to pull out the GS from you to fuck up the whole GS combo.

[@impecabledavid6621]

@@hroxyz1 okay thank you , and if i go with your build can i do alternative for shadow harvest trousers and band of universal power , bcz i don't have it .

[@hroxyz1]

@@impecabledavid6621 you can use either Violent Signet or Alabastar band instead of Power Ring, and I would slot Phantom pants in the meantime. So you can get to 60 Perception while keeping 50 Str. But ultimately you gonna replace at least the pants for 2P Shadow.

[@cali4806]

Howd you get 420 hesvy attack chance tho? Edit: ahh food got it thanks

[@hroxyz1]

@@cali4806 no worries

[@thomaspandolfo8931]

Hello, tu prendras quelle ceinture ensuite ? Tu restes avec la bleu ?

[@hroxyz1]

Bloodlust belt :)

[@thomaspandolfo8931]

@@hroxyz1 On la veut tous :)

[@thomaspandolfo8931]

@@hroxyz1 Et pour la coiffe, tu la remplacerait par quoi ? Celle de TALUS par exemple ?

[@hroxyz1]

@@thomaspandolfo8931 La coiffe ? Non c'est bis le Heroic Hood en T1 pour range dps :)

[@thomaspandolfo8931]

@@hroxyz1 mais est que le masque du loup fantome serati bien ?

[@amiyeagle]

u can put your ability on scroll up and scroll down , middle mouse mouse 4 and mouse 5 button wow 5 ability on mouse wow

[@dee0092]

What is your opinion on staff/gs?

[@hroxyz1]

It can be decent, especially in T2. I think it's a strong duelist combo, for arena and small scale PvP but less strong for large scale PvP.

[@Greg117-dd8zj]

cheers trying to restat/ rebuild my pve character for pvp trying to get better at pvp been tolled bow/staff is a very good combo and try long range fighting

[@hroxyz1]

Nice, hope you enjoy it :) definitely a great weapon combo for PvP, better on large scale than small scale though.

[@obristeric7871]

hi i dont understand why in meta battle and maxroll they say to go endurence but every yt video tell evasion can you explain it please ?

[@hroxyz1]

Yea it's a question often asked, I will try to make another video explaining why I go Endurance over Evasion. My tldr is that with the current gear we have in T1, you barely won't have any chance to evade attacks unless you have Victorious Energy active. It's purely theoretical but I assume that any competitive player will be running at leat 900 Hit, probably more around 1k Hit. Unless you sacrifice some damage for more Evasion items, you will get around 1k Evasion too so you won't evade anything. While Endurance works at all time. Also in T1, apart of the daggers players, builds rarely go over 1k Crit Chance so you completely nullify Crit Chance from many builds and even reduce the damage you're taking.

[@rishanyz1908]

That explanation just saved me so much man. You're absolutely great when it comes down to explaining stuff. Thanks for what u do u are amazing person. U made me swap from wand/staff to bow/staff. Thanks a lot for your work. ​@@hroxyz1

[@hroxyz1]

@@rishanyz1908 Glad it helped :)

[@mrsucubus5740]

Hello, 16:40 you have specs on the Decisive Sniper skill but is not on your skill bar. Should I replace the ability you have in Q with decisive sniper?

[@hroxyz1]

I updated my small scale pvp build, you can check on my questlog. Sorry for the confusion :) questlog.gg/throne-and-liberty/en/skill-builder/923bmj24v6Sl?build-id=12297

[@desbravacanada]

@@hroxyz1 I noticed your Questlog builds are using Karnix, but on the video you have Toublek, which one is the most updated one?

[@hroxyz1]

@@desbravacanada I'm using both really, after the video and due to some comments I wanted to build up for Karnix too. Right now I'm using Karnix to get higher base damage and crit chance however I would say that I still prefer Toublek in term of gameplay, you cast slightly quicker and the CDR on it is really good. It's about what you prefer, both are good anyway.

[@desbravacanada]

@@hroxyz1 Amazing, yeah I am trying to find something that fits my style and I have both, but spec'ing the Karnix in the SA servers is so insanely expensive, so I was wondering the thought behind it! Appreciate the answer.

[@hroxyz1]

@@desbravacanada Toublek is really good :)

[@tsacasper6437]

why harvester set with such low crit? it looks like a waste

[@hroxyz1]

You have the bow crit chance passive that isn't applied, on average it gives you around 300-400 depending on the distance. But yes, going Karnix bow + Swirling shoes is definitely better to get a higher base crit chance and benefit even more from the 2P Shadow bonus.

[@11crayon95]

how to enter pvp status ?

[@hroxyz1]

Pre-target someone if possible and try to cast a short and fast cooldown on it then switch target :)

[@Adem-pd3pz]

It's just a question of how do you manage your mana problems because with the build I would only have max. 6,135 mana?

[@hroxyz1]

Hey man, if you're talking during PvP events, on downtime when we're recovering from a fight I quickly swap to Inner peace, ask my mates for Nature's Blessing so I instant get full mana then switch back.

[@Adem-pd3pz]

@@hroxyz1 ty

[@Katannaaa]

How much hp u have? Im planning to switch to liberator from infiltrator

[@hroxyz1]

So I'm still missing Bloodlust belt but ultimately I should be around 14.5k HP using Karnix bow + Umbra staff and going 60 Str/Perc.

[@Katannaaa]

@@hroxyz1 brooo holy cow if youre going to use karnix i just have to grind the umbra staff hahahah we have identical equips already im so lucky i found ur vids 🥹🥹🥹🥹🥹🥹

[@hroxyz1]

​@@Katannaaa I'm a Umbra staff enjoyer for bow/staff, 15 stats + CDR is too good to pass on it, especially for the Str/Perc. I'm basically going to this build, while I was using Toublek bow + Umbra staff until now: questlog.gg/throne-and-liberty/en/character-builder/ImmunityWithTheExtraVictory?build-id=146935

[@Katannaaa]

@@hroxyz1 thanks brooo! I was on the verge of giving up to re rolling to liberator until i saw your build!

[@yoityoboy]

For someone buidling karnix bow, do i need any changes ?

[@hroxyz1]

It depends what staff you run. There is a very tanky build with Karnix + Umbra staff where you can get 60 Str/Perc. You can use Toublek staff for more damage however you might get low Hit.

[@yoityoboy]

@@hroxyz1 which build do you reccomand using karnix bow

[@hroxyz1]

@@yoityoboy This one that I might switch to actually questlog.gg/throne-and-liberty/en/character-builder/ImmunityWithTheExtraVictory?build-id=146935

[@gabrielalexandrumedesan]

how do you have so much range ????? from whattt

[@hroxyz1]

Toublek bow has 19.2m base range that's why. Then you get range from Shadow gloves and Dimensional ring. And eventually the Karnix range buff from your group.

[@gabrielalexandrumedesan]

@@hroxyz1 I got karnix,shadow harvester grips,saphire dimensional band and 50 Perception..and still have 20 range m.... something its wrong...also when I change from bow to staff stats are the same nothing change

[@hroxyz1]

@@gabrielalexandrumedesan Yes it's normal on Karnix, it's because I'm using Toublek bow that has 19.2m base range. Karnix has 16m base range.

[@Argauz]

is it true that deadly marker isnt working?

[@hroxyz1]

Never heard of it, so far when I'm melting a world boss in PvE it seems to work, my cooldowns come back super fast.

[@Argauz]

@@hroxyz1 it removes buffs from other players so for example you use marker on "x" boss player 2 has +10% damage your deadly marker removes that 10% damage buff from that player 2 try it out and get back to me if you can

[@ДмитрийДасик-ы1х]

Hello. What gives how much heavy attack, besides traits and 50 strength, food and castle?

[@hroxyz1]

As for now I think you only have the Swirling Essence robe that drops on Bellandir, it gives 78 Heavy Hit at max lvl. Later on you will have much more gear giving you Heavy Hit, and even Heavy Evasion once Talandre update drops.

[@MrMoosejaw1]

How did you get your heavy attack to 420?

[@hroxyz1]

I have food bonus active, 60 Hit and Heavy Hit chance.

[@yaboy5515]

can you do one for arena?

[@hroxyz1]

I will probably be release a video regarding Endurance vs Evasion considering how many times I got this question asked. My tldr is that with the current gear we have in T1, you barely won't have any chance to evade attacks unless you have Victorious Energy active. It's purely theoretical but I assume that any competitive player will be running at leat 900 Hit, probably more around 1k Hit. Unless you sacrifice some damage for more Evasion items, you will get around 1k Evasion too so you won't evade anything. While Endurance works at all time. Also in T1, apart of the daggers players, builds rarely go over 1k Crit Chance so you completely nullify Crit Chance from many builds and even reduce the damage you're taking.

[@tykxo5118]

I do'nt get something friend, u say at 15:14 that you use Decisive sniping, but you didn't equiped the spell before, why ?

[@hroxyz1]

Yes sorry, I'm doing tests often, could be that I was trying something different that's about it :)

[@metropolismonke]

890 ranged evasion is quite low. You would be better off having max health substats or anything else really. Most bow/xbow builds, even unfinished ones have more than 890 ranged hit chance so it's a dead stat.

[@hroxyz1]

Ranged evasion is really a 3rd optional perk that allow me to get a bit of chance to evade when I have High Focus active. I get around 1300 Ranged evasion, it's somewhere around 15-20% chance to evade so I take it :)

[@tomzerman963]

En vrai go baton de talus nan il est vraiment trop fort

[@hroxyz1]

Talus est tres fort pour du small scale pvp clairement mais pour l'instant mon focus est sur du large scale et je ne suis pas trop ennuye par les GS players quand je suis avec mon groupe, du moins si un GS player me jump dessus je peux avoir du peel et survivre (a moins de prendre un instant Heavy Hit).

[@thomaspandolfo8931]

Hello, tu prends quoi comme nourriture avce ce stuff ? Et es tu assez résistant en fight ? J'ai limpression que 11k cest peu.... Merci :)

[@hroxyz1]

Je compte beaucoup sur mes teammates, si je prends 3-4 Flash Waves en effet c'est complique de survivre. Pour la bouffe, regardes a 19:46.

[@thomaspandolfo8931]

@@hroxyz1 j'écrivais pendant la vidéo pour la nourriture déso aha. En effet j'ai le même probleme pour la vie c'est embetant. Merci =)

[@Rudeuslul]

I’m guessing you using that cloak cause you don’t have Juno’s cloak yet? In my opinion a better and cheaper cloak would be the blue Deadeye Cloak at least with that one you get a little bit of hit chance and crit chance vs with the one you wearing it gives evasion which imo for your build its wasted stats. You can use Deadeye until you get Juno’s to drop. Thats just my opinion tho.

[@hroxyz1]

Nope, it's because I'm building ranged evasion as 3rd "bonus" trait. I'm sitting on 870 base ranged evasion that gets up to 1330 when I have Victorious Energy active. It's far from being optimal but it adds perhaps 15-20% chance to evade vs ranged DPS that are around 1k hit, so I take it, it's "free".

[@Tomivee03]

How in the hell you guys get this much lucent/unlock stones

[@hroxyz1]

@@Tomivee03 farming lucent by selling what you don't need. Right now it becomes harder since prices are going down by a lot, unless you get a world boss item from a box and sell the trait or lithograph. Also accessories traits are still expensive so I would focus on targeting farm on accessories (Lequirus bracers, Syleus Abuss 5-6 ring, etc).

[@Tomivee03]

@@hroxyz1 ty

[@judzjudz1205]

I've been thinking I need more health with the bow that's quicker

[@hroxyz1]

Karnix bow let you get to 60 Str and have a good amount of HP, Toublek you could get to 60 probably but you gonna lose stats.

[@islasparklestoychannel9650]

I’ve been having a poo time with staff and daggers wondering if anyone else has a good build for staff daggers otherwise I’m thinking going crossbows

[@hroxyz1]

Hey indeed staff/daggers takes more practice than playing bow/staff when it comes to direct impact in ZvZ however I would say that playing Xbow will be as difficult as staff/daggers. I'm actually planning to reroll staff/daggers after the first Castle Siege and focus a bit more on smaller scale PvP. It would probably be what I would run for smaller scale, a Melee/Magic Evasion build: questlog.gg/throne-and-liberty/en/character-builder/AnnihilationAndTheParalyzingRing?build-id=638988 Or this one for large scale PvP: questlog.gg/throne-and-liberty/en/character-builder/WhispOfThePurity?build-id=147913 Talus is really strong, if you can't have it simply get Toublek staff :)

[@thestepback]

So endurance is better than ranged/magic evasion?

[@hroxyz1]

I definitely think it is, I have a video covering it: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pZTclnyaqtmqpac

[@jesussama]

Fr nan ? Continue a les défoncés ta raison 👊

[@hroxyz1]

Yes je pense pas que je puisse le nier haha cimer :)

[@jesussama]

@hroxyz1 envrai bonne anglais juste continue comme ça je te souhaite le meilleur pour toi 💪

[@hroxyz1]

@@jesussama Cimer tres appreciable :)

[@exenire5128]

Grave je crois que c’est ton tique euuuuh qui t’a trahis 😂

[@hroxyz1]

@@exenire5128 haha oui c'est vrai, c'est pas tant l'anglais en plus c'est juste une habitude de combler les vides avec "euh" haha

[@Vega-or2ln]

Where are you from ? France ?

[@hroxyz1]

Yes, I guess my accent tells it :)

[@boyet5299]

Eva o endurance better in bowstaff?

[@adhammaher9493]

F

[@bog13man]

endu 100%. you only go eva if u got dagger.

[@stonersowybogacz844]

Range magic evasion

[@moonveille96]

@hroxyz1 what’s your opinion?

[@boyet5299]

Ithink if bowstaff endurance if staff dag eva to maximize evasion

[@3shekel]

Hi was wondering if I change the sabatons with swerlling essence shoes would it be better

[@hroxyz1]

It depends your build but Swirling shoes are definitely a good choice anyway. I will probably go for them once I switch to Karnix instead of Toublek, so I get more Crit chance. All you wanna do is to avoid investing 2:1 stats ratio too much.

[@3shekel]

Sorry can you explain what do you mean by that?

[@hroxyz1]

@@3shekel once you spent more than 20 pts in one stat, it goes to 2 pts spent for 1 stat. You wanna avoid that as much as possible. Of course sometimes you will have to do it for 3-4 pts to get to the milestone, but having to spend 10 pts this way is bad.

[@Casin18]

2:27 u dont get more range on flashwave with toublek its 29 meters on both bows, wrong guardian as well (its useless because you cant use it and fully charde flashwave in time).

[@hroxyz1]

I actually just tested it out with a Karnix bow user from my guild that has 20.62m range vs 23.02m range for me (without the Karnix range buff) and there is the 2.4m range difference. Both are not 29m at max charge, since max charge is based on your base range. For the guardian, it's a preference. Like I said, at the end of the day it's all preferences and opinion based. I enjoy using the stealth guardian so I can get sneaky positions and lose target every time I get a kill within 3s, which is really helpful when you're feuded by many players.

[@Casin18]

@@hroxyz1 You cant even test basic things yet you make a guide my god.

[@hroxyz1]

@@Casin18 Go take your hate somewhere else mate. We have been testing it out and can confirm the Flash Wave max range is impacted by your base range. Another simple test you can do is to take a low range bow and try it out. It works the same way for Karnix and Toublek.

[@Casin18]

@hroxyz1 post a video from those "tests"

[@hroxyz1]

@@Casin18 we went to guild hall, step same position, fully charged a Flash Wave. Mine was hitting a bit more further than his Flash Wave. To be exact, we stepped on the line in the hallway to the arena, his was stopping at the pillar right before the arena, mine was passing the pillar.

[@XoX742]

MADE Same build (expect pants) and cant get that amount of endurance. Are you next to your party during recording video?

[@hroxyz1]

It's the Riftstone we had at the time I recorded, giving 50 all Endurance. Same goes for Skill Damage boost, I have 50 extra from Boonstone.

[@XoX742]

@@hroxyz1​​⁠upon making same build I got 1000 m evasion and 800 R 640m endurance. Is it worth? (Not including passive within party range)

[@hroxyz1]

@@XoX742 yea it's definitely good. Endurance works at all time, getting closer to 1k would be good though to minimize damage from bow/staff users and overall all non daggers users.

[@chrkristensen5033]

You might be wasting traits on evasion since throne enemy likely have a lot of hit by end game you won't have enough evasion for it to matter.

[@hroxyz1]

For now I can match and get even a small chance to evade some ranged attacks for T1 endgame. Later on it will be another discussion. I just posted a video explaining my choice. kzbin.info/www/bejne/pZTclnyaqtmqpac

[@Priss933]

If you could hide the bow that look would be so sick. bow never looked good on the back

[@alphonsoo]

Bow looks good on back just not with staff too 😅

[@Priss933]

@@alphonsoo you kind of look gay with the bow on the back. modern games are replacing the quiver on the back like archer in bdo but also one weapon on the back is enough anymore looks stupid. And they need to give option for players to hide sheathed weapon. Its actually very easy to do.

[@hroxyz1]

Yea it's a bit weird to get both bow and staff in the back I give you that. I don't mind the quiver, just both weapons together doesn't look that nice for sure.

[@Priss933]

@@hroxyz1 I agree those red glow look amazing with each weapon by itself

[@iStayReddy]

Guys, can anyone give me advice on how to rank up my gear to level 9 quickly? I feel like everyone else is doing this so much faster. Is there a particular place to farm mats? Or something I should be buying? If I can whale it I will 🤣

[@hroxyz1]

You can't whale it. You have different way to get mats for growthstones: daily contracts, open world dungeons farm, co-op dungeons and right now you have the Halloween event. Also you can buy some from the ornamental coins shop.

[@Lombo210]

What are the skill spec about pve?

[@hroxyz1]

Check out at 14:28, I cover it a little. It's perhaps not the most optimized but I'm doing really good with it.

[@deathx9090]

Can you cover a pve build?

[@hroxyz1]

I could give it a try but I just play what feels good to me, didn't try to optimize anything :)

[@bobbylonghorn1399]

Can you watch with the heavy breathing, slurping, smacking, hissing, lisping, sniffing and snorting, its watchable but turn off the sound.

[@Profitocracy-]

Endurance.. évasion.. je vois tout et son contraire a ce sujet JPP :'(

[@hroxyz1]

J'ai fais une seconde video qui explique plus en details pourquoi je considere endurance meilleur :) kzbin.info/www/bejne/pZTclnyaqtmqpac

[@RandomToch]

Ok rerolling bow/staff

[@hroxyz1]

Noooo keep your wand please I need you

[@bombaa7448]

Ranged ev wasted

[@hroxyz1]

It's not wasted. It has a bit of value, obviously it's not much but I rather have ranged evasion that mana regen. When I have High Focus active, I'm around 1.4k Ranged Evasion so it's around 25% chance to evade vs 1k Hit.

[@bombaa7448]

@@hroxyz1 What about endurance values docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1V_IQJ199KXhieqQRLKDU4v7pNcRvvWSS9MrwY0JI8eg/edit?gid=0#gid=0

[@Zujua]

Alors toi si tes pas français je change de prénom mdrr

[@hroxyz1]

:)