Throne & Liberty - Spear is Crazy in PvP - My Builds Explained - How to Counter Spear

[@FRESHY_GG]

4:50 its worth noting that using shadow dash + any CC, will fill up immunity gauge meaning that additional CC after that won't work and if the target has some CC resistance they will be able to get up from prone much faster... shadow strike fills up 75% of immunity gauge due to having bind and silence.

[@ZeNSOMNiac]

Target friendly on/off is an option in the 2nd menu after you pull up menu for fishing rod/amotoi travel/emote/toggle friendly target on/off

[@dxd0118]

Range players are crying about spear being broken. Meanwhile they have been dominating almost every dps build in existence before spear came about. Relax everyone has his time in the game

[@erwinmagtoto438]

How to deal with mana issue? I tried spear dagger. So fun to play but having hard time with mana especially on PvE

[@mellodeviant]

Mana regen traits and food for mana Regen plus the 10 min mana regen potion from guild shop …. Always snackin

[@Aragon-]

all what mellodeviant said and drink milk when you can to refill fast out of combat. In dungeons ask the healer to put their fountain of life on the boss whenever possible

[@ZeNSOMNiac]

​@Aragon- is there a way to manually end combat state to use Healthy Milk faster? Or do you have to wait for the combat to end and hope the boss doesn't interrupt your mana regen when the combat state does end after 12 seconds? On controller btw

[@darlinlagarra1183]

ty bro nice build XD

[@Zero_XZ17]

So for your small scale with melee evasion, have you tried rex daggers and shaikals spear? The over all hit chance is better, str at 40 for more health and little damage reduction, and the base damage for the spear is higher so your javelins will hit harder without having to keep leq daggers procced. Not quite as high as if the daggers were procced but in my opinion the higher hit chance, health, and generally survivability make up for the 15-20 ish (don't have heroic spear max yet) base damage difference on spear that is constant vs having to keep it procced. Let's be real, a good player should cycle all cool downs properly to keep it procced, but there's always gonna be a downtime that happens.

[@Zero_XZ17]

Any chance you could do a video for your settings and specs? Cause your largavale pvp looks way smoother than mine

[@TheViaNuova]

this spear is the reason i stopped playing as you cant stack melee evasion as ranged player without losing all your damage

[@Technicaldif]

Game was so well balanced before spear and runes smh

[@TheViaNuova]

@Technicaldif well really balanced no, but you had option to navigate your way around. With this as ranged you simply can't, so you either swap to spear yourself or have fun watching your grey screen 80% of your playtime

[@adgoez5949]

@@Technicaldif you must be either a tank or a bow player if you think that way

[@vaclavmajer5488]

you can use defensive skills instead, i play staff/daggers and have no problem 1vs1 spears, but over half of my skills are CC or defensive

[@TheViaNuova]

@@vaclavmajer5488 im non talking about 1v1, but gvg, zvz

[@johniancu]

any video about current state of crossbow dagger? i find it very hard to play in every scenario besides 1v1

[@chorus1069]

It's useless asf. My whole bomb squad rerolled spear, i'm the only one left with xbow dagger. Bullshit meta, i hope they do something cuz people already quitting

[@vaclavmajer5488]

@@chorus1069 people will quit anyway if only thing they want to play is the stuff which is op for that moment and not playstyle they enjoy

[@olivierjolyy1810]

You prefer game armor general or évasion ranged magic for pvp ?

[@Aragon-]

Ranged and magic evasion for pvp.

[@olivierjolyy1810]

hi what equipment do you recommend for playing pvp please for large scall and small?

[@Aragon-]

I have it listed on the questlog site

[@olivierjolyy1810]

​@Aragon-yes but can we use the large scall equipment for the small scall?

[@Aragon-]

yes you can. I explained how I do that

[@olivierjolyy1810]

@Aragon- ok thx man I'm going to try all this and hope it works well. What do you think about PvP?

[@sebastianhagel3790]

Hey Aragon, why are u stacking Hit chance at all? If the enemy u are attacking is playing Melee Evasion on 1800-2000, it does not matter at all if you have 600 or 800 Hit chance. Or what do I miss here?

[@nocomment4u]

you are definitely missing something here . What kind of thinking is this? should he have 0 hit chance so his spells do zero damage? Also 800 hit chance and enemy LETS SAY he has 2k evasion he will still hit probably 40-60% .Evasion can never give you 100% evasion of everything .

[@Aragon-]

There is still a big difference between 600 to 800 when your target has 2k melee evasion. There is nothing better to stack for average damage output as soon as they have higher evasion than your hit

[@sebastianhagel3790]

@Aragon- How about just ignoring them?

[@Aragon-]

You don't really get a lot of choice there in 1v1 or arenas xD

[@Aragon-]

And like I mentioned, feel free to stack 0 hit chance for large scale pvp, but don't come complaining that your damage sucks when you run into more people with melee evasion cause they don't like you killing them

[@darlinlagarra1183]

for T1 and T2 dung who is best the pve build multi target or ignite hybrid damage?

[@Aragon-]

hybrid

[@darlinlagarra1183]

@Aragon- Ty

[@KcPallotta]

To get your stacks for spear just use them on a monster because you got 25s before you after get them all over again.

[@KcPallotta]

Have to*

[@NastyKugogo]

you need to reach 50 strength, Shaikal is a lot better for PvP than Heroic polearm, stat wise maybe reaching 70 dexterity is good becuase of evasion, but nimble steps with shadow walker provides a lot of evasion, plus on ZvZ or GvG you are using phantom smokescreen. as diminishing returns are a thing, those 120 evasion aren't making a big of a difference. Shaikal gives a good amount of hit chance which is one of the stats Shadowdancers misses, this is why enforcer spec is a thing, in KR Shadowdancer were not as good as they are in Global due to most builds having 2.5k+ melee eva.

[@van_tigranyan]

how do yoy play with 700-900 hit chance? I have 1000+ and even I struggle to hit players, as they stack so much evasion or endurance, how do almost no demage.

[@korky404]

check questlog page, make there your build and there is tab ,,combat pvp,, or smth like that. there you ll see % of hit chance, crit chance, evasion, endurance and skill dmg boost + ressistance. fun concept xD and also you can change stats directly in that combat view to see difference.

[@strauss_]

Might be who you’re targeting, either more people are starting to rebuild most of their gear to have melee evade now which is kinda build breaking depending on the class or your targeting the wrong classes, I’d say the latter is more plausible because certain classes swapping to melee Eva would make their armor/ set bonuses pretty terrible over all

[@van_tigranyan]

@korky404 never seen it. I'll check it out. Thx a lot

[@huddiezilla6643]

That’s where skill comes into play as a spear player you don’t need.a ton of hit because you are melee and if you find ur self missing to much ur focusing the wrong targets. Spear is alll about positioning and a ton of patience

[@MrRight0930]

You just don't chase people with high melee evasion.

[@MMARIC20]

How come the mysteries are so different as opposite to the meta?

[@Aragon-]

All the masteries will be changing very soon

[@rafaelgeorge49]

On server Benny, 6 player out of 10 use the spear, 2 tanks, and the rest 2 are whatever. So melee evasion is pointless in GvG? As a ravager I have 1.7k range & magic evasion....totally useless...

[@BamxDD]

really depends on server lol. On mine, 80% are running melee eva now since spear is the new meta

[@theScary92]

1.7k evasion before roll I hope, if after its way too low, good staff/bow have 1700+ hit :)

[@schulzg]

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, we need new in-game content TL... I can't be more max'd than I am...

[@vaclavmajer5488]

so the Shaikal's spear is not that good anymore?

[@Aragon-]

it's fine to use, but my builds are not stacking strength, usually don't need the extra hit chance and the 20% range from the resistance spear feels really good

[@mohamedatta3586]

@Aragon- is the 770 hit chance enough vs tanky ppl ?

[@allmight4858]

As a Spear Player you dont need Hit Chance even 550 is ok because most people have Ranged Evasion builds and 0 Melee.

[@alexanderjovenong146]

im using it with 70 str and have 19k+ hp so i can survive more with healer in the party If you play like xbow glass cannon no need shaikal but without a decent hp and defense you will die easily. If you dont have tavent dagger dont build glass cannon. Honestly no need for high hit chance, most dps wont run Melee evasion because the melee eva set gives less stat points = low bonus stat and low dmg output (more stats = more min/max dmg of weapon) Just be alert always and not be stun prone by GS Tried Melee evasion on spear/dagger yes you can survive more being spear’d and evade stun locks (sometimes) but the amount of stat pts you can get is just minimal and to me not worth it unlike if you geared towards range/magic set you can have 1 70stat 1 60stat

[@Aragon-]

@@mohamedatta3586 with hit chance runes thats 890, with pvp food thats 990 and then with enforcer thats 1,400. So it's usually enough even when you run into melee evasion guys

[@ZeNSOMNiac]

This is like asking for a perfect build to counter the class that is meant to balance you out. That's what balance is. You aren't meant to beat spear class everytime. Just like a spear class isn't meant to beat a tank every time. And how a tank is meant for survivability but will struggle against magic ranged Choose your battles. Everything has its weakness and you have to choose your battles and strategies accordingly instead of asking for nerf. "Hey nerf this class because mine doesn't work against it. I melt other classes and don't want to STRUGGLE against this one. = perfect build" 🤣

[@mylesmiller5979]

RIP BOW DPS

[@ricardomorillo7922]

why not weaken chance on universal band?

[@Aragon-]

That's probably a good idea

[@danutz0306]

⁠Hi @Aragon-. I don’t have the Band of universal Power …I don’t think I will ad if It will costs too much to fully traited..What is best in slot for pvp as rings?? Thanks

[@vaclavmajer5488]

@@danutz0306 you should try more gambling then

[@yardenshnaider7386]

great video! you got some really good and straight forward content. can you make a video about spear dagger t2 build? i feel lack of information about t2 builds... can be helpful to know which items to target after it comes out. (maybe just gear and wepons for that point of time). thank you for your time😀

[@Aragon-]

In the video where I show the 16 new gear sets, I show some theorycradted builds for t2

[@Ceasah]

spear meta was a terrible idea. even if it was meant for t2, it should have been balanced correctly

[@snowflakeblanket2924]

it was balanced around fights that weren't as extremely over populated as ours, i.e. 30vs30 types of fights not 60vs60 or archboss 1000 player fights with 240 player active alliances etc (my server is like this and its very hard to play)

[@JulienD-j3f]

I prefer Spear / GS

[@snowflakeblanket2924]

fun but highly ineffective in large scale compared to sns/spear or dagger/spear, in PvE though its the strongest of them all

[@wv11989]

I'm sns gs honestly I think its better than the flash wave meta because now those players standing in the back waiting to flash wave get targeted by spear alot but it does need tuning I just don't want large scale pvp to go back to 90% flashwave again

[@boat66543]

agreed i do get alot of kill throwing jav into a very big blob of bow user in the backline of enemy lol very ez target

[@billkarp]

By far the spear meta is worse than the flashwave meta ( now you gotta deal with both )

[@KcPallotta]

Flash wave dies in T2

[@huddiezilla6643]

People are already countering spear with melee evasion MMO’s have never been evolved around one armor set you have to evolve with the meta change

[@KcPallotta]

@ Yeah In this game It like you got to follow meta or be close to it.

[@makarascsl8974]

Need start nerff

[@capten_pickles4869]

Spear is still mehh GS is still better

[@davilakarlos]

Why do you say that?

[@capten_pickles4869]

@davilakarlos because it does more dmg and you can stun lock people with it and kill them

[@dankdayday]

First!

[@djfinith9263]

First the worst… second the best!

[@IluvMetal93]

I play staff spear and I dominate in PVP.

[@manijava1784]

U got a quest log build boss?

[@vaclavmajer5488]

share ur build then

[@Piotr-s7c]

dead game...why u play TnL...

[@aiji7228]

Second

[@9874-l2j]

all this hassle for a dead game.... just unnistall