THROTTLES: Twist vs Thumb - Which is better?!

[@DrowningPool10]

I'm changing from a half twist throttle to a thumb throttle located on the left hand side, as i have gear thumb shift selector already on the right. - good video about throttles.

[@sunnynaidoo235]

I’ve been binge watching all of your KZbin vids in preparation for my first ebike. This one was just as helpful, and I imagine, as a long time motorcycle rider, I think I’d be similar in preferring the half throttle. Thanks! Sunny

[@TeeKoon]

Bikes controls like brakes are the reverse of motorcycles, throttle on the left side, I"m changing to a motorcycle standard pattern, reverse the brakes earlier, bought a regular right twist throttle too

[@nickturner4150]

I like the control a thumb throttle gives from a standing start. Useful when initially mounting imo.

[@williamaungleyraud]

Personally I prefer the thumb throttle because it allows me to have my remaining fingers resting on the brake lever, in many cases as I was cruising around, a car pops out of a driveway or a garage without checking and having my finger right by the brake lever I many times could let go of the throttle and immediately yank on the brake to stop the bike, where on the half-twist throttle you're gripping on the throttle and your handle grip at all the time, so that additional fraction of time you need to let go it the twist and reach your fingers over the lever to then press hard on it, doesn't pass me the confidence of control feeling. It might be something just psychological but having my fingers ready to press the brake makes me feel in control of the bike, than the bike in control of me. So in my hike I also have a horn button wrapped around my handle grip, so my thumb its on the throttle, my index finger is by the horn button and the left 3 fingers on the brake lever. So while I brake I honk the heck out of the driver to wake him up while I stop my bike to avoid a collision. Seems a lot, but saved me every time. Thanks God.

[@LetArtsLive]

I have been riding bicycles since I was 7 years old. July 14th 2002 I first rode my hammer ebike. I watched a lot of videos they said there's a lot of power but I didn't believe it LOL. So I take off I'm at the End of the Street faster than I can believe it it's a short Street. I was going to turn right but with the giant fat tires is not so easy so I almost believed then I went up on the sidewalk and crashed. And I hit my nub straight down on the sidewalk. And then I got up and rode 12 more miles and that was the most fun I've had in years. Sitting here trying to heal my foot then I lost my leg after years of trying to save it so I've hardly been anywhere except the doctor and shopping and now I am free yay yay for e-bikes and I used my stimulus for something good that should last me a very long time if I keep it maintained. It's a lot like a regular bicycle Minus the electric motor and being 70 pounds and the giant tires. I truly believe in E bikes. I was researching and the first ebike looks like a motorcycle was in 1895 but they didn't have the distance please do and that was made by Bosch I wonder if it was made in Rochester New York near me they have a place Bausch & Lomb well they used to.

[@neoroberts2802]

Or u can just hit the brakes with your left hand makes things a lot easier 🤦‍♂️

[@northernfreelance5788]

Same here, thumb all the way! Plus switch the brakes to the UK style. Actually is the right way compared to dirt bikes etc.. Front brake on the right

[@Impossible_Fishy]

@@neoroberts2802 each brake is a different tire

[@NicGoldenEddie]

That where short way twist throttles come in handy. You can rest your pointing finger on the break and still twist it. Or change the brakes. But thumb throttle is cool too. I just like twist better. But your points are valid. Look at quads these have thumb throttles for a reason. I ride long empty paths so of course I choose the twist. It’s an easy ride nothing to worry about.

[@nuance2317]

Having ridden motorcycles most my life, Twiiissssst!!

[@wildboy8346]

2021 and ive only just heard of these things! I like twist but wouldnt mind trying one of these

[@MmmmmmmmmmmMm15]

For me it’s twist only because of cruise control

[@Ramon314]

But if you have ridden a motorcycle for so long, why just don't ride a motorcycle? Haha a ebike must be so slow in comparison.

[@rexluminus9867]

Half throtle is best.When you're standing it's way more different than on a bike.

[@rexluminus9867]

@@Ramon314 Some escooters can go 80K +!!! Standing on it feels way faster than on a bike.😹🤬🙀

[@maryblaylock6545]

WOW! That's enough to make my head swim! I have a LOT to learn. A friend who manages a bike shop has said when this pandemic is over he will help me convert my bike! Whole new learning experience! Thanks for the information. 👍🖖

[@northernfreelance5788]

Get the new CYC X1 Stealth. Beast!

[@Cat-Mitz]

Hey Mike, you have not mentioned the "feeling" of a twist throtle. I have used the thumb throtle, but the twist has a major advantage: really controlling the motor.If you press the thumb throtle, you can feel a certain gradual power increasing, as you are pressing the thumb button.But with twist throtle, that's more let's say "fine tuned" I can twist the throtle, just to keep the motor rotating really slow and being able to accelerate smoother, just like when having the more expensive controllers, for example ASI bac, or phaserunner.These controllers are known to keep the motor rotating.This of course applies only for mid drive motors, i have tested and noticed this while using bbs02b and bbshd motors.

[@blakehugh]

As a motorcycle rider, I'd go with a twist throttle. That way I'd have no learning curve on giving it the juice.

[@gress12000]

I ride a motorcycle probably 355 days a year I really appreciate the thumb throttle. I have to super sport motorcycles.

[@guyco]

i pronounce fatigue like "fah-teeg" but your way is awesome too :)

[@jerryhunnicutt9244]

Maybe one of these days my ordered ebikes will arrive from ten buck two, and I can insert some input into my preference of throttle type also! Why can't we design and build an affordable and competitively good ebike in the USA to avoid the annoying wait times for a ship to circumnavigate the planet? But thank you for your informative video. Stay safe

[@ChrisB...]

Half twist is the best, I use them on my 4-stroke bike too... That said, I have yet to find a setting that produces a useful low-end throttle curve on my eBike. It's so annoying, and I know it could be solved in software.

[@HighVoltageKits]

You just gave me a great idea. Thank you

[@JamesWilliams-ji4mg]

It can't, Unless you use a potentiometer throttle

[@ChrisB...]

@@JamesWilliams-ji4mg Didn't know this was a possibility. Do you have any links to pot throttles? Just found this: electricbike.com/forum/forum/kits/golden-motor-magic-pie/70584-guide-to-hall-sensor-throttle-operation-testing-and-modification#post94717

[@JamesWilliams-ji4mg]

@@ChrisB... Yeah and that guide is fine and will remove throttle dead zone but its hard to explain. Basically at the beginning of the throttle the magnet will be far away from the hall sensor in the throttle and it will never be responsive in the low end because the signal will be weak until it gets close to the hall then it will be twitchy. For throttle check out domino which is what i upgraded to

[@ChrisB...]

@@JamesWilliams-ji4mg Just ordered a Magura 0-5kohm pot throttle. :) I'm used to dealing with the ugly low-end of my hall-effect throttle, but honestly it sucks. Too many unintentional wheelies at 3KW.

[@Blakehx]

Thanks for the great info! I have a Lectric XP 2.0 with a half twist throttle (it’s a bit difficult with my huge hands) but what do you think about switching the brakes so that the left handle brakes the rear wheel and right handle breaks the front… any disadvantages? Thanks

[@Leonardokite]

Nice review. I predicted the 1/2 throttle when you mentioned the grip to hold vs constant twisting.

[@EnvisageGroup]

I thought I would want a twist throttle ...but after watching this maybe not. I currently have a thumb throttle on my custom e-bike ...and maybe I'll just keep it that way.

[@steveward8070]

I would very much like to see elegant solutions for handle bar controls as far as diy conversions go... so far the solutions I see work, but look like a cool science experiment = no sleek design. If you have suggestions or references I would be very gratefull.

[@schrockie1]

I prefer the thumb throttle. I've had one to many "whiskey throttle" incidents with the "twist"!

[@richardlewis4066]

Just bought my first ebike and it came with a thumb throttle that has cruise control built in. After holding the throttle down for approximately 6 seconds the cruise control kicks in and you can release the throttle and the bike maintains what ever speed you were going. To turn it off you simply tap either brake and it cuts off the motor. Love this feature, use it all the time on my 20 mile round trip commute to work.

[@rubenrebenz1000]

Seems companies are catering more to the commuter class. Bought a Gemini e bike it has slicks, thumb throttle, cruise control, 28AH, 750w motor, hydraulic disc brakes, 400lb load capacity. Not the highest specs but great value under $2000 including tax and shipping.

[@ACAGT]

I always use thumb throttle, its more comfortable and more precise. Its also safer from unwanted situations when bike is being parked or pushed and you or someone else accidentally push the throttle

[@codbug]

My bike came with a half-twist. Used it for several months before trying out a cheap thumb throttle on a whim. Found I had way more precise speed control with the thumb throttle, a less cluttered cockpit, and more constant stability while also being able to keep my fingers rested on the brake lever at all times for an overall safer and more stable experience for someone who occasionally has to ride on ice and slush. I've not experienced any of the downsides listed. My bike's controller has PAS and cruise control, I had more issues with bounce affecting throttle on the half-twist with my weight being partially distributed onto the throttle, and I routinely commute in sub-freezing temperatures without issue by simply wearing gloves--something I'd be doing in the cold, regardless of if I was on a bike or not. May be worth mentioning that I've been playing video games for over 35 years and am a pianist, and have a strong, well-conditioned thumb, and possibly an under-developed wrist, so others' mileage may vary. The difference in analog precision for me however was night and day. To borrow an analogy from gaming, it was like switching from an analog stick to a mouse for aiming.

[@jason.arthur.taylor]

"The difference in analog precision for me however was night and day." Are you saying that the half-twist throttle sucked because it was not analogue?

[@codbug]

@@jason.arthur.taylor Nope, the operating word was precision. My thumb with no other forces being exerted on it could make much finer adjustments than my entire wrist which was also supporting part of my weight, gripping the handlebars for stability and keeping my fingers within reach of the brakes (and later my turn signals). It was easier to maintain a stable grip, especially over bumpy terrain and still have very precise control with flexing a loose thumb than twisting my entire wrist. With the thumb I could accelerate much more slowly and hold any speed I wanted without interference from any other factors.

[@jacobwilson9099]

If you were motorcycle gloves your hands won't get as cold

[@albertpelletier9415]

greatly prefer a right hand half grip twist throttle. I also have motorcycle experience. A left hand throttle is dangerous in my opinion due to the mix of standards. My worst throttle experience was on a motorized scooter which used a pull lever throttle on the right side. When I was climbing a hill, the bike wheelied which resulted in my loss of balance and pulling the throttle lever even harder to hold my grip on the handlebars. I flipped over and landed on my back and broke my shoulder blade on the asphalt. Very painful accident with months of slow recovery.

[@jason.arthur.taylor]

I read all the comments for this one. That was what I was fearing, but you were the one who confirmed it.

[@EbikeEscape]

So far no complaints with the half twist. Some people even will attach a zip tie (or something similar) to make a half twist into a thumb throttle. I guess at that point you have the option of using either.

[@lucavidovic1596]

How can you charg a e skateboard with solar

[@jasonthole9613]

The thumb throttle works best for my cockpit. It just fits and looks better. And my wrist isnt as sore after a ride.

[@joejazwinski8873]

The Mod I bought came with a full twist, I didn't like it and got a thumb lever and absolutely LOVE it! despite the issues over rough terrain, but that's what PAS is for, right?!? lol Also I use an old school friction thumb shifter and just have the throttle under the bars and the shifter over the bars works great!

[@HighVoltageKits]

Left half twist. I have my gears on the right with a single brake cut off. The half twist IMO is by far the safest option for a throttle as you can ride without worry of triggering the throttle in a busy area. Experienced motorcycle riders may get on fine with a full twist but most people jumping on ebikes are not such people. Never wanted to try a thumb. I have one I want to use for regen braking tho. Cheers

[@evanwindom3265]

I don't see how any kind of a twist throttle can be less likely to be accidentally activated than a thumb throttle, since your hands are always on the grips, but can easily be kept well away from a thumb throttle. To me, using a thumb throttle requires a deliberate choice. But, if it's a concern for you, that's cool, too. Whatever makes it safe and fun is the right thing.

[@tomvoskuilen7896]

Hi Mick, here Tom from Holland, I like your channel and your books, they have helped me a lot, could you do a video on controllers, how they work and what the main differences are between the cheap aliexpress kunteng controllers and for instance Infineon and Phaserunner controllers? Thanks, regards Tom

[@lucasaranguren1738]

mannnn, thank you for everything you do. You are awesome, good reliable information!

[@pixelatedmushroom]

A disadvantage of the half-twist is that you now have to find a "half grip" to fill out the end of the bar. If you use a full length normal grip, it gets too long and funky or it doesn't fit at all (hitting the curve part of the bar). The "half grip" is actually fairly hard to find and limits you to a small set of available grips.

[@rexluminus9867]

It's all about muscle memory which you'll get used to it.Period.

[@zephyrbalint-fitzgerald5142]

bruh just cut it

[@MrDJCultus]

First time watching your video and I enjoy it ! I have an electric scooter with thumb acceleration over a year and I have to say that it’s fine for me ! Thanks 🙏 very much for the content of this video and now back to another of your videos 😁

[@ibrenecario7357]

Why not trigger throttle?

[@lottumeb]

TIP: Half-twist throttle can be used as cruise control :) Just push the grip thight against the throttle and it wil stay in place. No wrist fatigue anymore. And i agree about the right side throttle . They should standardize the back rear shift to the left side to avoid this problem. But on the other hand, a throttle is forbidden in many countries for pedal assist ebikes (max 350W or 25km/h). With throttle it falls under the catagory motorised scooter/moped (above 350W and/or 25km\h) or motorbikes (speedelec bikes) (from 500W till 4000W and/or 50km\h).

[@ChrisB...]

That's a pretty dangerous way to do cruise control. Why not just turn on "auto cruise"?

[@Bogsyism]

@@ChrisB... It's not really so dangerous. I do exactly the same and just use my brakes when necessary. It cuts power to the motor straight away so it's no big deal having it in cruise control.

[@johnsexton3841]

When making a conversion from MTB to a mid-motor, what is the breaking point to change the drive train to a heavier duty? 500w, 750w or 1000w?

[@xpndblhero5170]

For me 500w was not enough and 750w made me want more so I ended up jumping a few levels straight to 1600w..... Now I plan to start jumping voltages, from 48v to 52v or just straight to a 60v 3kw motor. I can't help it.... It's like working on a dirt bike or motorcycle but it's not dirty or as finicky, it's just plug and play power and I'm addicted¡! LoL

[@yes_itselectric]

@@xpndblhero5170 This. lol

[@YouMotorcycle]

Agree 100% on no left side throttle. No thanks! The right side's the right side, the left's sides... not.

[@frogmandave1]

This is another great video. I am in agreement with you about the right side throttle. Having ridden every conceivable type of powered 2 wheeler during my lifetime, getting used to a left side would just be too weird. My current bike has a left side thumb throttle and I don't like it at all. I would like to see you do 2 new videos. One would be a how to on wiring in accessories to existing controllers. For horns, lights, etc. The other world be on how to convert a thumb throttle to half or full twist. Any special pickups, etc. or are they all standard and just work right (see what I did there) out of the box?

[@denizakad2249]

woud youplease advice ; can the full twist throttles ( 90 - 120 degrees twist I mean ) improve starting speed and jerky movenments of ebikes ? or not much to expect in reality ?

[@GRAHAMAUS]

I prefer thumb. Since my motor is only assistive - I pedal mostly - the throttle is rarely used and just gets me quickly across a junction or up a steep ramp offroad. I have it on the left.

[@yougeekyou]

Anything you want

[@Skelterbane69]

I once rode my old ATV moped to school, during winter and I forgot my gloves. Went on a shrotcut through the forst, toskip the motorway (cus it was a moped) and I had to hold onto that gas for over an hour. Needless to say, the skin on my thumb felt really loose and the skin got purple. 10/10 would recommend.

[@Glenners]

Twist just seems like a bad idea. If you get into trouble you can't just hold on and try to fix it because you can end up giving it throttle and making a bad situation worse.

[@chris18112]

I prefer left hand throttle cause of my left hand having more strength and dexterity than my right hand. I appreciate company's giving us choices.

[@brothercody7338]

Definitely thumb in general, had a twist throttle that was blocking my right gears by the display, so couldn't shift, plus my wrist was cramping, went to thumb throttle, totally better, just wish display was better, I turned the thumb throttle so my thumb is in a naturally resting position when at full throttle so I'm relaxed no cramping

[@EuroYank]

Although I watched this when Micah first posted it, I apologize if someone else has since posted the obvious problem with left-hand throttles. In the USA, we use our left hand to signal turns. It's pretty difficult to signal properly when it forces you to remove your hand from the throttle. I also think many manufacturers are losing sales to former motorcycle riders who want a twist throttle.

[@brian1979atlive]

QUESTION I NEED ANCER TO i want to build a 54v 200ah battery for a trike how meny batterys do i need for this and whats the easy way to do it e,g how meny in a row and how meny rows ???? am a newbie at this sorry if i sound dumb ppl

[@EVUK-bd2vn]

If like me - a regular runner, jogger, trekker etc - you've tripped and fallen quite heavily onto you hands once or twice a year you probably also find that it's usually your thumb and thumb-base that breaks most of each fall's force - so you end up with a thumb that doesn't much like being kept 'muscled" and taut in a stiff position for very long. One advantage of that is you'll feel less inclined to use battery power for long stretches and keep fitter because your stiff aching thumb starts complaining after each 20 secs or so of thumb-throttling..

[@ChellyMemer]

Ya'll don't adjust the angle of your wrist while riding with full/half? I can't tell if i'm riding wrong or you guys are LOL I know this is an old video, but I just adjust the angle of my wrist while also holding the throttle down... idk maybe i'm built different.

[@PattyDung]

All 3 are bad. I have to modify throttles to make them usable so there's no wrist/thumb fatigue and no holding the wrist at an awkward angle. Start with a half twist. Glue a bar on the front so your fingers pull up on the bar to actuate. The bar is longer than the half throttle, so it subtends the whole grip length. Much more comfy for long periods.

[@pleasecho2]

I installed a popular mid drive kit but the new chain wheel is bigger by a few teeth. I tried to find the few additional links of the right type to add but they aren't available like that. Why? I had to buy a new chain. Also can you do a tutorial on chain repair/maintenance? Thanks

[@ehsnils]

Personally I don't like thumb throttles at all - I find them hard to use and modulate. If I'm not wrong there are also throttles that depends on the pedaling - you have to pedal to make the motor work. And I hate having front brake on the left side - it has to be on the right side for me because I also ride motorcycles and mopeds. It's completely braindead to have the front brake on the left.

[@MarYSolPopFestival]

Any advice on slowing down my e-scooter? I have a Velocifero Mad Truck. I wanted a scooter like this hoping to go around my land having relaxed trips to enjoy the view and also keep an eye on areas that needed maintenance. In other words, I’m not interested in going too fast. My land has many small trails and turns which means I need to be able to have more control on the speed and because the scooter is too sensitive it keeps “jumping” as I try to have control. Really annoying. I’ve been doing some research but still feel lost. Any suggestions on a throttle that allows me to control the speed (slow, medium, fast)? I wouldn’t mind trying a thumb, trigger or twist throttle. I just want the damn thing to slow down. Any other ideas would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.

[@Sphinx1110]

Hi Micah! Great video on Thumb vs Twist throttle. I do have a question - in this video on the bench behind, you have your very cool looking helmet. What make and model is it? Can you please showcase that for us?

[@GrantSR]

I like your "real life experience" pros and cons.

[@brentlybaird4974]

Please enter me in your contest for your books

[@brentlybaird4974]

Great information, always relevant, and quick to answer any questions posted!

[@fat5687]

can i ask something?? which is better, brushless hub or mid drive motor? thank you sir. im from phil..

[@TheJimthecanoeist]

Eureka! I viewed your excellent videos and tried adding a thumb to my Himiway Cruiser with not altogether satisfactory results and off it came. I prefer to twist but found the half-grip throttle clumsy to modulate. Then an epiphany: Those flattened comfy grips are the problem. As I try to rotate the throttle with the right side of my palm, the left side is held in place by the right-side half-grip. I replaced both grips with conventional round grips slightly smaller in diameter than the throttle and now I have great control. The shape of the new grips allows my palm to slip in concert with the rotation of the throttle. What do you think? Have I just advanced the half-throttle solution, at least for this setup?

[@johnsherry6021]

My ebike 3000 watt ukc1 display. 80 amp controller ,took off on its own full throttle randomly. Crashed . It’s happened twice . Not sure what’s happening? Some on fb say it’s faulty ground but I noticed first time it happened the display started climbing g assist levels on its own before I shut it down. Scary

[@LightBWK]

PAS is the best throttle. The others can cause accident. But you won't accidentally paddle a bike.

[@Yowzoe]

Does anyone have an opinion on (or a link to a review of) the different handlebar mitts for cold-weather riding? Over the last month I randomly came across a few comments on them, and what I heard is that none of them work real well in terms of keeping cold air completely out and/or not interfering with handlebar controls etc. Also they all seem to be a pain to quickly take on & off the bars - no quick release. Just got a radmission. A well-designed pair would be very helpful for me this winter, just need to zero in on the best available. Cold hands will definitely limit my my winter ridng. Thanks.

[@thecam0073]

My swagtron eb7 ebike has a 2-finger twist throttle which is the best ev throttle I've ever used. (i've ridden dozens of electric scooters and bikes)

[@lhunter325]

Hello, I have a Hyper e-bike 26 in bike. My question: the bike is great, no problems at all….like you experienced in your demo….Being that the bike is pedal assist, whisch works well. The only problem I have is getting started from a dead stop….as a pedal assist there is a delay which some folks get impatient. XHow can I add a thumb throttle to help me get to speed quickly. Thanks Les Hunter

[@xpndblhero5170]

I have a full twist on a razor MX1600 and it's REALLY twitchy and kind of jumpy probably because it's a very sensitive sensor or something but I have a Schwinn S500 w/ 36v and it has a half twist and I like it a lot but I'm curious about thumb throttles because I like quads WAY more than dirtbike throttles so naturally it has me wondering if I'd prefer it over twist throttle or not..... Might have to get a cheap one off Wish and try it. I'm willing to do all the wiring and soldering for the answer too so unless you've tried one out, don't make a choice randomly.... I really don't like the full twist because of riding at speed and hitting bumps w/ your wrist all bent weird hurts and I haven't had that problem w/ half twist so I'm betting I'll find something I like or dislike when I try a thumb throttle.

[@mightandbelightnr2290]

My personal recommendation... Don't buy thumb throttle if u live in colder climate cuz u will freeze your thumb.

[@firstnamelastname2298]

Ok, I got it. This is the channel about electric motorcycles, not about e-bikes. If you "ride straight line at full speed" using motor - you are motorcycling your e-bike. That's fine, but not what I want. Now the question: should I like or should I dislike this video if I want youtube algorithm to recommend me videos about e-bikes which won't include information about electric motorcycles? Hmm..... *sound of rusted gears"

[@peppapig2112]

Let s say that with a single charger (i.e. 58.8V) you want to charge 2 52V batteries at the same time and in order to do that you make a 'Y type' splitter with 1 female terminal and 2 male terminals. Assuming that the 2 batteries before recharging show different voltage level, say one os at 43V, the other at 46 V. What precautions would you take to prevent current running from the 46v battery to the 43v battery through the Y splitter? Maybe diodes on each positive wire? Or maybe following a rigid sequence, charger to splitter first and then splitters to batteries, will suffice?

[@12vLife]

I'm considering the VITILAN AT7 which has a thumb throttle on the left handle bar. Not sure how I feel about this.

[@justinrayome3]

Why doesn't Houston (i.e., any city east of California) have a full service e-bike shop and why don't D2C e-bike manufacturers have relationships with the B&M shops to enhance the end user experience and warranty value for all parties involved? Hmm. Sounds like market opportunity given the current demand. Any takers?

[@johnpossum556]

My Ebike came with a 1/2 twist that has enough grip on it that I can also use it as a thumb throttle. It helps a lot.

[@engineerbob6657]

As a motorcyclist I am more comfortable with 1/2 twist on Right handlebar, but I have already trained myself to drive both left and right side shift lever motorcycles, so maybe I can retrain for the left side throttle. That said, however, how about just moving the bicycle gear change selector to the left handle bar and keeping the right side twist throttle? I consider the throttle to be more important than gear change - and, 90% of the riders I see do not even pedal. BTW, what is the best supplier of all these parts if I want to experiment with different placements?

[@Nick-cc6gd]

What does the 'x' indicate in the example 76x half twist throttle... 20x half twist throttle.. 300x thumb throttle.. Does anybody know??

[@lawrencepll76]

I’m looking to by a battery online. I currently have a 1000W 15.6Ah 48V battery ebike. It is however very heavy. I would like to downgrade to a tube mounted smaller 48V battery. Can you please tell me what I need to be aware of? Such as the connection type, current etc.

[@joesamprerer]

Cool, thanks! Is a left half throttle more helpful in a quick reaction situation where you need to slam on the rear (right side) brakes?

[@SylphidUndine]

after a full throttle on a full twist throttle, couldn't you just adjust your hand back to neutral position while maintaining the full throttle? that's what i do.

[@EBikes420]

Hi, not sure if you will see this comment considering ur video is over 2 yrs old but can you help me find a solution for my left thumb throttle. After a little while, my thumb starts hurting and feeling numb from constantly pushing with my thumb on the throttle which has that weird kinda sharp edges, like the one you showed. What can I use to place on the throttle to make it softer?

[@kmemz]

I'll go for thumb throttle with wind guards, either in the form of wind breaking gloves, or handlebar-mounted hand covers.

[@captaindanield5827]

My thumb throttle seems to be too sensitive. The ability to hold a lower steady power is challenging. I've thought of mechanically limiting the thumb or adding a resistor into the sensor line. Don't know if I can just limit the max speed of the thumb throttle in the display menu; depends upon whether they are independent or if the menu max speed is overall the final restriction. Will experiment with simpler options first.

[@alexshatner3907]

I have a great question for you, I am interested in a twist throttle that starts you off slow, because I notice that all the cheap $15 twist throttles that I a have used, knock you off the saddle as soon as you barley turn it to its minimum activation point, I am looking for a throttle that starts off very slow and gradually starts accelerating to full speed. Please refer me to one either through amazon link or a model and model number, I will subscribe to your channel upon you response. thanks

[@marsharbour]

How about this ? I am an old bloke and went through trigger shifters and twist shifters on my pedalec Ebike. Then i got old and arthritis, very painful. Found a stick shift clamp here in Netherlands, works geat for gear shift. Maybe you blokes can adapt it as a throttle...? Maybe with a paddle ? Can i put up a pic?

[@alanbarbour5185]

Now aged 73 and having driven and ridden all sorts of cars and bikes I thought I was fully conversant with most cable and sprung throttlesa. Always will be a twist grip guy though. All my life I have been or at least tried to have been a courteous driver and rider. I now have a huge problem. When I used to drive trucks and sometimes cars, if I had a full and heavy load and could see that I was holding up traffic I could give them two ways of me telling I knew they were there and also by either opening my drivers window could wave them through if the way ahead was clear or could indicate and tell them by using my flashers. Neither I know are really street legal here in the UK but are generally accepted as good manners. Now to my problem with my three wheeler motability electric scooter. Mine, because it is listed as being for Continental use also has a three position setting for throttle. 1 = 4mph for use on sidewalk (pavement here in the UK. 2 = 8mph for use on all roads and highways and then 3 =15 mph for Continental roads or private land. Throttle is smooth in increasing speed in all selections, however If and when traffic is building up behind I dare not let go of the spring loaded throttle as it shuts off power so quickly I know that before I can signal using the standard circled hand then the traffic behind me would be grinding me into the pavement. Know what I mean ? Is there any way of modifying this shut down? I must admit that it's almost handy as I shut down speed in increments when approaching a junction, however I'm sure I can get used to that rather than causing a crash. Any and all ideas welcome . Great show and thank you. Regards Alan

[@davemeise2192]

I've had a full twist throttle on my motorcycles, thumb throttles on my ATV's and now I have a twist half throttle on my ebike. For an ebike I think I prefer the twist half throttle. There's too much to do with one's hand while cycling to effectively use a full twist throttle and I didn't like the thumb throttle on the ATV as one gets a seriously cramped thumb after a few hours. It's just my preference, that's all.

[@bubbalube]

I’m trying to buy a conversion kit. How can I tell if say the 1000W motor kit I’m buying is a good one? In general, how can one tell if the kits are quality products or just cheap knockoffs? I understand brand awareness and price are indicators, but buying from aliexpress is another beast all together. Also if you can talk about monitors ads vs disads that would be great.

[@Druidwil]

I’m building an electric drift trike (DIY). 500”-1000w 36-48v front wheel powered and a thumb throttle, just wondering what your opinion is about this - hope to get a response thanks

[@clarkie5]

I have a thumb throttle, My dad has a half twist. I HATE the half twist on the Lectric XP,.. deal breaker for me, would never buy a bike with one.

[@gustavolacerda9354]

Basically to have a small battery like 3s on lithium 18650s and use only the throttle connecting bat and motor.. doesn’t work right? To much power on those tiny wires (sensorless, just black red and green...

[@BASTIEN747]

Let's say I was to build an electric motorcycle(homologated one) or convert an existing one , and my solution is all about engineering a very different product to the existing market while still making it feel like a sports cruiser / coffee racer. What never produced features would you be looking for in such machine so that the experience would justify buying it over a classic ev/ gaz bike on the existing market?

[@chargeriderepeat7024]

Thumb on the left, it can give some pain on a long road ride, but for rocky single track its perfect for throttle stability.

[@techtinkerin]

Weird how a petrol motorbike, has to be twist but ebike I prefer thumb..Guess it's what you get used to.😊❤️

[@smeggyhead1]

I have a 15kW monster ebike (actually 18kW but I don't push it to full voltage). I currently use a full twist. I am really concerned about the pressure I put on it as I hold on for dear life when I go full beans (which I do often - I just can't resist it). The full-twists I've seen are only anchored onto the handlebar at one end - the other end is just floating, there is no means for it to put the reactive force along the entire length of the twister; this is asking to be broken.

[@firstnamelastname2298]

IMHO, e-bike should have no throttle handle at all. It should have intelligent controller with assist mode, to help pedaling uphill. If you want anything else - just buy normal motorcycle with petroleum etc etc. It will be better for ecosystem, for your health, for your safety and also cheaper :)

[@solarfunction1847]

I'm using a twist throttle on a 48v 1800w scooter motor with a 13s26p 69.68 Ah usable battery on a home made electric outboard motor & the twist throttle is an excellent safety cut off should I ever fell out of the dinghy while the throttle is at 100%.

[@reyes2009]

Help! There are many videos that show how to diy ebike and DIY ebike battery. But no video explains how to avoid the massive spark when connecting a 58.8V battery to the speed controller. How can one avoid said spark? It is wearing out the connector fast!

[@ezgetap677]

Do you have idea why scooter m365 reduceing speed, slowing down and then accelerate again.this patern is constant when rideing full trothel.maby to change capacitor from 63v to 100v on motor controler.?.or the number of revolution is limited by software

[@philipspradling8142]

Does anyone make a locking throttle for straightaway riding? That would answer the thumb or wrist fatigue issue. Cruise control for bikes I suppose. A quick release function could be added to the mechanism.

[@fredbrown9681]

I ride an e-bike, MTB, 1000w ultra, fat tire, with a thumb throttle. I rarely use as it drains the battery in no time. Issues: can be dangerous - accidently bumping the throttle while on uneven terrain; front tire lifting off the ground when used to start from a dead stop; and should you crash the throttle can be activated by a tree branch or other item. On the street its okay but worthless on rough roads/trails.

[@bob-ny6kn]

A great majority of e-vehicle purchasers are novices. Until personal, small, powerful e-transportation is ubiquitous, the thumb throttle (dead man switch) should be standard.

[@user-ir6ug6gk1f]

Yet I like and suggest Left side because, according to a scientific study it is proven that actions with left hand make brain 🧠 to work on right side of brain,so brain works logically... So if you are making a ebike with left hand side throttle also making that guy to think logically everywhere.

[@LiveLNXgaming]

motorcycles, the things ebikes are emulating, use twist throttles. if your doing more than pushing the lever for a few seconds, get a twist and watch some motorcycle throttle control videos that can show you more technique. its very comfortable and should not be done like most people show when they make the twisting motion like at 1:46.

[@artiekocian559]

I have a 750watt 48volt rear hub drive ebike and would like to add a front hub drive to make a 2 wheel drive and increase speed. Can I integrate the same controller and battery or replace 22 amp controller. Any assistance is greatly appreciated!

[@awo1fman]

My new ebike has a left side thumb throttle, which is the worst of all worlds in my opinion. It does have a trigger shifter on the right, but it's on the top, not the bottom, so it should work even with a thumb throttle. If they're going to move something to the left side it should be the shifter, not the throttle. The shifter on motorcycles is on the left, so it makes a lot more sense than putting the throttle on that side. Also, since the right side brake lever is usually the front brake and that's where most of your stopping power is, putting the shifter on the left makes it much easier to downshift while braking. Also, you gennerally want either the throttle or the brake, not both at the same time, which is why the front brake and throttle are on the same side on a motorcycle. Seriously, the people who have these "brilliant" 🙄 ideas about changing things obviously never actually use the product themselves. Theory is one thing, reality is quite different. Motorcycle controls are set up the way they are for very good reasons after more than a hundred years.

[@poetic4]

Great video! Todah Micah! From the guy who purchased the Rubbee❤🙏🏻

[@randygonzales375]

i love to have electric bike but i cant buy it i dont have enough money... i will use it to go to work it would be a big help for me and for my family please help me... to ease some of my expenses. please help me please help me.. GOD BLESS