Thumb to Twist Throttle - Get the parts you want!

[@kb7yim960]

I really like your channel. I don't have an electric bike yet, but will eventually. Your channel is like going to eBike school. Tks!

[@CitizenCycle925]

Glad you're finding them helpful!!

[@MotoREV6]

You got a electric bike yet?

[@SMG-lz1zq]

Wow! This was a great video. Showing how to transform the thumb throttle to a twist throttle is excellent. I also got to see your WD-40 grip removal trick too. Loved the video. So informative.

[@jimmyjames8736]

I think this video was a great choice Citizen. It will probably be very helpful for a lot of your subscribers. I agree wholeheartedly that twist grip is the way to go. After over 50 years on motorcycles this old dog isn't ready for any new tricks trying to remember where the throttle is 🤠

[@davidfuller764]

Thank you yes, I completely agree. Muscle memory I guess they call it.

[@coldcasewatchesccw7158]

“I’m not a bike guy” (1000 bikes in the background) 😂

[@AvocadoAtrocity]

Bruv. Use an air compressor to take the grips off.

[@hoagybob]

Dude! You save me a ton of exasperation! My sincere thanks!

[@lyslebasinger7381]

Right hand twist throttles forever!😎

[@jackoneil3933]

Good useful content, thanks! I would not like a thumb throttle on the left, and realize most handlebars don't have room for a shifter and thumb throttle on the right, especially with a trigger shifter like you have there. I tried the thumb throttle and then went to a right-hand twist throttle, and while I prefer it in terms of grip and comfort, I've had several instances where the bike started to tip while dismounting and the throttle twisted causing the bike to accelerate and my grip to twist the throttle even more until it reached full throttle and the only way to stop the the situation was to let go of the bike. I do have a thumb throttle 'on-off' switch on the throttle and pretty much remember to turn it off whenever stopped but not always. As such, and for safety reasons I might go back to a thumb throttle on the right. In order to have enough room for either a twist or thumb throttle I replaced a similar shifter you have there with the Shimano SL-TX30 thumb shifters which are compact durable and inexpensive. I also like just being able to down-shift by moving the lever rather than having to push trigger levers, and a push-button to up-shift.

[@oOImpulseOo]

Let go of that throttle!!! Trying to save it only makes it worse. Commonly known as whiskey throttle. Funny on a youtube video. Not so much when it happens to you.

[@jackoneil3933]

@@oOImpulseOo A bit different on a motorcycle as it's typically out of gear or off when stopped.

[@oOImpulseOo]

@@jackoneil3933 Tell that to this girl. kzbin.info/www/bejne/a2jdlYhjmM6rmKM

[@southernebiking]

I think the reason you like that twist throttle so much is shown in your video. That Kawasaki set right there. Honestly when I first started riding a Ebike, I really thought that was the only way to go along with a front brake on the right hand side. But after a little while I realized I really never use the throttle, or should say very very rarely. But if I were, that right hand twist sure comes natural.

[@Kamikaze3557]

My ebike has this grip you installed, with the time I've used it ,it is very easy, if you're like me and constantly searching for a decent grip then accidentally twisting the throttle and get that sudden unintentional throttle up. if they made the static part longer where my hand would fit comfortably making the throttle part shorter It'd be perfect, I've got skinny but large hands.

[@namegoeshere3838]

In my case: the Voilamart twist throttle is huge! It's a normal size grip if not bigger but it then has a big battery meter guage on the inside of it (bright blue and easy to see, I want to try and separate it from the throttle and do a custom build into the front luggage rack with a lock box. Built in 3 brightness headlight, 50,000 mAh solar battery for it. Cell phone holder, MP3 unit etc) so it sticks out (or sticks in) covering so much of the handlebar that I can't shift it. Right now I'm pretty much just using the front shifter because I have to let go of the right side and reach under to get to the rear shifter. Yesterday the ebike power take off didn't go well when I tried to pedal across the street and I lost enough teeth on the cassette to render it useless and I must switch it out.

[@Campfussell]

Haha, to each his own. I like thumb throttle and put a clip on attachment to my AR X-Class twist throttle. However, I would not like a left handed throttle period. Also, I've been having so many flats with my original tires that I just installed a set of Shinko 244's. Noticed a big drop in range. They knock off a good 30% of range off my battery. Original tires weigh about 2.5 pounds these Shinko's weigh 5.8 pounds. Been studying rotational weight vs static weight and learning the hard way how this affects range and acceleration. Looking into the Huntsman Vee tires now. they weigh a pound less than the Shinko's at 4.88 but still twice the weight of originals and twice the price of the Shinko's. Not sure if I want to upgrade to a second battery yet. Might need to upgrade to a bigger hub motor and go 60 or 72 volt to handle these Shinko's. It's been a fun learning experience either way.

[@pattyedzards8587]

Was wondering what clip on thumb throttle you used?

[@CitizenCycle925]

Wow 30% drop in range is a lot but I guess if you're using straight up motorcycle tires that seems reasonable. Did you ever try any tire liners?

[@bernlitzner2739]

I just did the same thing on my EMX-Extreme. It wasn't because of flats, I wanted a more aggressive tread for dirt and mud trails. I haven't done a range test yet to see how much off a drop, but since the majority of the bikes usage is trail riding...I should be OK. The EMX Extreme has a huge battery. (60 volt 20ah...newer ones are 60v 23.4ah). I loved how the Shinko's handled in the dirt and mud.

[@Campfussell]

@@bernlitzner2739 Oh man, you should be good with 60 volts. Would love to upgrade my AR to 60. I don't do much dirt riding, but heck these Shinkos handle better on the road than the originals did.

[@dalvenable331]

I did this but the other way around. been having nerve issues in my right hand and even short ride would mess with me so I switched out my right throttle for an universal thumb throttle to the left. I have yet to find a left handed twist throttle or I would had used one instead but the thumb throttle works for now. now I had to splice the wires in my case not the weather proof pin connect.

[@laplantemichel709]

i had a thumb throttle on my midrive changed it out for a twist but installed it still on leftside i figure i can control power better .Good find for right hand throttle nice but no bar end mirror have to cut grip

[@pdxRoberge]

Appreciate your content bud. Thank you.

[@jimbianca9560]

Great video, I too love the twist throttle on the right. I am looking at a Troxus with a thumb throttle on the left, only problem is, I don't have a left hand so that's a no-go for me. Can you please post a link If available, to this slender twist throttle! By the way I dropped in on Wired Ebikes today in Illinois, and actually got to check out the cruiser model, what a beast of a bike. It is also in the running for my next bike, thanks to you! Luckily for me it has a right twist throttle! 👍

[@kdscrapping4452]

KOOL!! Day Mak Max bikes have the short fenders!! They r just for show !! My Daymak Max S has the little fenders!!

[@snorttroll4379]

Compressed air works to take off handles too

[@DyLemmaOG]

One thing I'd say is if the throttle doesn't work.. most likely the new throttle you bought had the positive/negative/signal wire in different spots which is unfortunate because you'll need to cut off the connector and make a new one

[@crookedletterj]

Is their a tool you can use for the little piece at 6:47 when it gets stuck in the handle bar when you pull of the grip ??

[@CitizenCycle925]

have you tried threading the screw back into it and pulling on that?

[@Onmw2fybh]

Do you know how to take off the metal thing that secures the twist throttle off the inside of my handlebars

[@Doc.Holiday]

I’m thinking the throttle should be on the left so the rear brake can be feathered with the right while wheelying…. How is the 24 Wired bike set up? I should be receiving my Freedom in the next few weeks.

[@jodythomas]

Hello CitizenCycle, I bought this throttle kit for my Aventon Aventure 2 but I noticed that the cable is a female so female to female wouldn't work. I saw on another of your videos you did add a twist throttle on an Aventon you have because your wife doesn't like thumb throttles. I believe this bike used the thumb throttle on the left for your front drive motor. Can you tell me what twist throttle will work for my Aventon A2 please?

[@aidyn7108]

I have a red plug with 2 pins can I still use a twist throttle ?

[@RantTherapist]

What if the thumb throttle is connected to the monitor on the left side? The monitor and the throttle is like a one piece hub. I really want to change it to right side twist throttle. Or even right thide thumb would be okay. I don't know why left is standard, it's so annoying.

[@turbo________]

are there any full twist slim options, I made the mistake of buying the throttle first before doing research, I actually have the same shifter as you do.

[@julieoehlert2893]

Hi, thanks for you video. Where did you plug the twist throttle to?

[@firsurf]

thanks!! great video, you saved me some bucks!

[@AnthonyLinsalata-h8j]

I wish I would have gotten a bike like that. I can't seem to get mine to go much faster than 20 even after changing the settings.

[@Hoggdoc1946]

Brian you forgot the tip on how get around the throttle trigger shifter interference even when using the newer throttle design.

[@ugglyfaceproductions]

may i have the link to where you got your throttle

[@jaysmith3658]

I have a rear hub Bafang motor “RM GOFO 750. D” The julet connection was perfect. As a test I just connected the throttle just to see if it worked and it did not. Do you have any idea why I can’t swap out my thumb throttle with a half twist? Something tells me that the pins in the julet connector are not correct to the half twist throttle. Is there a throttle out there that would work as plug and play with my motor type?

[@fraserthomson5766]

7:15 Could you not just cut the hole larger and use the bar end mirror to keep it in? Same expanding mechanism here..

[@JungSeobKim]

Thank you for the video. I want to replace it with this throttle, too. I want a site where I can buy throttle.

[@qaz9258]

What lights do you have on your Citizen bike? I bought a kit that has the light/horn + tail/turn signal. The sm-2y connector that comes to connect the kit to the power of my controller is not compatible with the one on the controller (not sure the name for that connector). SO i need to swap either the sm-2y connector (seems hard to find) or the other one to fit the controller. But since I don't know the name of it I don't know how to find it. I am not favoring hard wiring the kit. What do you suggest? I knew as soon as I posted this I would run across the plug. Seems the light connector for the Voilamart ebike controller is a DJ706a. I likely will clip the sm-2y connector off the kit for the light and add the DJ706a to the wire harness. I really want to keep my kit compatible with most light systems. But since I don't know them very well I don't know what light systems normally come with. Main reason I am asking this question.

[@spacenut58]

Just replaced the twist throttle on my cyrusher 690 in order to change to a better set of grips.

[@marklowe8148]

I would be interested in upgrading my hurley mini swell to a 2 system awd bike. Can you recommend patrs list and where to buy? Currently stock 500w 48v. Thanks for any help!

[@snosister]

I have an X-treme Baja with a thumb throttle that does not seem to work. I have checked the plug and the wires and they seem ok. There is an outer casing in a spot that does not unplug that seems a little indented but no breaks in the wiring is evident. I can't figure out why it is not working. Do you have any experience with X-treme Ebikes?

[@MatthewMoeykens]

Would it be ok to link that half twist throttle to us? I want to change out the Aventus thumb throttle. Gracias amigo!

[@Top5ebikes]

Left Thumb throttle vs Right half twist throttle is such a divisive topic! Omar from Top5ebikes: I prefer the left thumb throttle because (a) I'm left-handed and bc IMO twist throttles have a higher likelihood of causing an accidental use of the throttle (inadvertently pull of throttle).

[@jbmaxx55]

I installing the new twist throttle it comes with a Female plug not a male one. Had to order a cable with male plugs on both ends to compensate for the problem. Got the twist throttle on eBay from china.

[@tacticalwarrior]

Quick question I want to change the throttle grip to something more comfortable for my hand. Do I have to change the entire throttle grip or does that throttle grip separate? I have the same throttle grip on the Jasion EB7 2.0

[@CitizenCycle925]

@tacticalwarrior this specific throttle is all one piece if I remember correctly

[@Deadmanvlogs1992]

Hi mate i am thinking of changeing my bat cycle fat tyre bike to electric i found a kit on fleabay but it says what dropout size does that mean to the motor or does it mean the wheel droputby the way going to go for rear if you asks lol if you can hell it be much appriciate

[@edwardlove4300]

I bought a SAMEBIKE in Osaka Japan. It doesn't have a throttle. Japanese law doesn't allow this brand to be sold with a throttle. It's nice and has a powerful torque sensor but I would really like a throttle. The SAMEBIKE factory told me it wasn't possible to convert the bike because of the controller. Is it possible to install a new controller and have a throttle?

[@mulljacob]

I'm doing the opposite on my Radrunner Plus. I have to move my hand over to move the throttle and gonna put a thumb throttle on it so I can just hit it with my thumb without moving my hand. lol

[@key39075]

This and second reason for choosing thumb throttle is accidentally activating twist throttle when I'm not on the bike is really not fun.

[@jeffmpvd7689]

I did the same thing on my Rad Mission. Added a 3D printed Thumb attachment on the twist throttle. Without lifting my hand I can extend my thumb to throttle!

[@naski420]

Does this work on a e-scooter

[@GaSo42]

Hi, I have the exact same gas, but the piece inside does not hold the gas inside. I can't screw it up. the screw just turns and doesn't hold it. Did I missed something?

[@georose33]

Funny thing about throttles, in the Rad FB group everybody wants to swap the half twist for a thumb throttle, me included. In the Sondors group they want to swap the thumb for a twist throttle.

[@twinturbo8304]

Where do you find that throttle, that's what I want for my bike but it has a four pin connection and I need a 3 PM so this isn't really helping me out much

[@fredrobles1136]

Love the video on how to switch from one to the other but I’m more of a thumb throttle but yes on the left side would annoy the shit out of me 🤣🤣

[@Ruggliff]

You said you can't use bar end mirrors but couldn't you just graft a stud with the same thread pitch as the set screw onto a grip mirror?

[@CitizenCycle925]

you can use bar end mirrors on this bike not problem, i have one on there.

[@georgefelegy8607]

What company did you get the throttle from?

[@LukeStonePharmD]

Have you ever ridden the Hyperscorpion? I am enjoying mine.

[@CitizenCycle925]

Unfortunately I have not tried the hyperscorpion

[@sheliacaposio1090]

would love and tried to do but E22 was showing on computer and it didn't work.??????WHY

[@WednesdaysVlog]

I'm the complete opposite to you. My bike came with a half grip throttle and I absolutely hate it. I find it insanely uncomfortable, it makes my palm/inner hand/wrist hurt like hell which definitely doesn't help with my cycling palsy lol. I've been trying to figure out a way to turn the bike into a thumb throttle bike or full grip throttle bike but so far the parts I've tried didn't work 😢

[@craigoneill6269]

I have a 5 pin thumb throttle. I can't find 5 pin twist throttles. Would a 3 pin work instead?

[@CitizenCycle925]

I have several Freesky bikes and they have 5pin throttles plugs. you could try ordering a twist throttle from them..

[@BryanOwens]

Nice video, I went the other way. I hate 1/2 twist and like thumb personally better. I'm old with not a good grip so twist is not easy to maintain.

[@CohenNeville]

“I’m not a bike guy” The 30 bikes in the background

[@goldbearbunny4787]

That's why I like fabulous ebikes tell them what you want and they pretty much make it happen. Custom touch 😀 and iam that wierd guy I can't stand that half twist if it was like a motorcycle I would use it .I love my thumb throttle 🙂

[@cliffordwilkerson9281]

Is it possible to add a throttle to the class 2 mid-drives which are not manufactured with a throttle?

[@Altema22]

Only if the manufacturer made provision for a throttle. Many mid-drives have have no throttle input, so it's best to check with the company that made it.

[@gustavobarbero9123]

Another great video thank you. I've been searching for an ebike to ride some single track and also ride on paved roads. I like the power of Ariel Kepler , but that bike looks like it won't be good on dirt trails. What's your opinion on dual purpose bike? thank you

[@CitizenCycle925]

I think it's whatever you think you'll be most comfortable on. A big fat tire bike like the Kepler probably wouldn't be ideal on single track but I guess depends on how aggressive you will be.

[@jimmyjames8736]

If rough singletrack performance is a priority then a dual suspension mid drive is the way to go. If you just mean average dirt trails then a hub motor hardtail fattie like a Kepler will do real well. If you check out Aventon Aventure vids here on KZbin you can find some trail rides. A Kepler would have same overall capability but with more power and speed than Aventon when riding offroad.

[@gustavobarbero9123]

@@jimmyjames8736 Thank you for responding. I like that Kepler will throttle to 30 + MPH , I'm 5'8, the bike looks like a big road cruiser. I want to find something with that throttle power but somewhat more spottier. Any thoughts , please send them .

[@jimmyjames8736]

@@gustavobarbero9123 If you don't like the looks of a Kepler then your best option may be to look at a 20 inch fat tire bike like an Ariel Rider X-class 52v. It is fast like a Kepler and would probably fit a 5'8" person very comfortably. Most of the bikes with a 1000 watt hub are 20 inch wheel bikes. Very few 26x4 tire bikes with the 1000 watt hub and none anywhere near good deal price of Kepler. A Quietkat Ranger with the 1000 watt hub option is around $3600 even though it comes with a smaller 48v battery. And the $3600 Ranger doesn't even include hydraulic brakes. Ariel Rider is hard to beat when you look at performance vs cost. But another company that makes some very high performance options is Fabulous.

[@gustavobarbero9123]

@@jimmyjames8736 great advise, thank you.

[@jkarasik9931]

I am trying to find a twist throttle for my Aventon Aventure, Can’t find one like this anywhere. Can you point me in the right direction? Thanks!

[@CitizenCycle925]

For sale on Cyrusher website but very overpriced

[@jkarasik9931]

@@CitizenCycle925 I saw that. Too much for me. I was looking all day and couldn’t find anything

[@bloodmoon-ronin]

@@CitizenCycle925 hey you know that metal piece that goes inside handlebar for the Cyrusher throttle? What is that piece called? I’ve been trying to get it out (unsuccessfully) and I also need one for my new handlebar

[@mikecurran883]

area 13 said there sending you a blackbird in the live stream. is it true?

[@bluetaurus13]

For me, the twist throttle is not an option. I have elbow problems that, in turn, limits my ability to grip and twist. The thumb throttle solves that issue and more so because my right arm is more problematic than the left. Just thought I'd share that Great video and content!

[@CitizenCycle925]

Yep everybody has different needs, Thanks for checking out the video though 😁

[@AnthonyLinsalata-h8j]

Where did you order that from?

[@CitizenCycle925]

pretty sure i bought that twist throttle from LunaCycle

[@Michael._The_Storyteller]

😀 Brian, you do look like a Brian, I never would have guessed it... My Friend's new ride from Aventon is a LH thumb throttle, the bike she had to return was RH twist, the bike she is trading up from is the Townie, it's a peddle-assist only, it was the most $$$ only because the brand is Trek, not worth the money IMHO. cheers,

[@eldridgecharlesjr2671]

Disagree with you totally on Thumb Throttle. FIRST is safety for those who are used to riding a normal bicycle and grabbing the grips it’s just natural since being a kid. FULL THROTTLE are dangerous for first time users, HALF TWIST THROTTLE are better if you are purchasing a ebike. And I like the option to Thumb Throttle on the left and Shifting Gears on the right.😎 Good information for folks looking for change.

[@billfranks6805]

Yeah I did all the above but when I plugged in the round yellow plug the display said error an new twist grip would not work I thought your video was going to explain how to deal with that but NO!!!

[@arelkay730]

Thanks, I'm changing my Lectric twist throttle for a thumb when I change the bars. Haha. Seriously. Quick response, less effort.

[@smitty4699]

lol that "fat" twist throttle you showed was a half twist throttle. you're supposed to use a half twist compatible grip with it and it would have fit on your setup.

[@RobertBeriault753]

Thanks.

[@arelkay730]

I don't think you would want a twist throttle on a bike with very swept cruiser bars like the EBC bikes, since it would feel awkward. Thanks for the vids !

[@victorcarty6474]

You can even do it with water I been doing that for years and I does see people having a hard time with them 😅😅😅😅

[@keepitthoro6768]

You should use a watch that matches that bracelet

[@CitizenCycle925]

yes, in a perfect world :)

[@keepitthoro6768]

@@CitizenCycle925 in a perfect world?!? No thats just stupid,you act like I said your bike should fly

[@Mr_Arvs]

Thumb throttle is good for anyone with Wrist issues

[@whyme3286]

I like the thumb throttle the best. Just my 2 cents.

[@LoLErMan13]

Mine is green 5 pin wtf, nothing has a green 5 pin man.

[@Affiliatemompreneur32]

Same! What did you use?

[@nick8670]

I prefer the thumb throttle tbh idk why

[@mickster1780]

twist and shout

[@bernlitzner2739]

I guess if you came from the motorcycle side it would be an annoyance with the thumb throttle. I actually like them myself.

[@jbid9999]

Thanks

[@markcdeyoung3118]

I take it they don't have a bespoken division like Bentley or Rolls-Royce😅

[@wayvirgo]

The thumb throttle is not where it's at! Instead, I'd rather have click settings on the twist grip to change the speed setting of the bike! If you can vary that setting more easily, there's very little reason for the thumb throttle except when navigating challenging trail features.

[@4nciite]

The right side twist backwards throttle is the dumbest design possible and the cause of 99% of ebike accidents, its nearly impossible to turn or manuever the bike without twisting the throttle and the throttle twist backwards every time the brake lever is squeezed, if the throttle was twist forward it would eliminate those problems, even with trying to turn the bike with one hand the natural inclination is to twist backwards so twisting forward is very hard to do on accident.

[@bigfoot-g4i]

well i disagree i think a thumb throttle is far better

[@Joshjohnstacey]

It’s harder to reach

[@Gaba.Groove]

​@Joshjohnstacey and makes my thumb hurt.

[@mikekeller2885]

It's even harder to reach the thumb throttle when you have arthritis or no thumb at all due to a Woodshop accident

[@AquaLady153]

thumb throttle sucks

[@timhyp2997]

A DROP OF WATER. UNDER GRIP... YOU GOT THE ONLY THROTTLE WITH THE. SAME !!! WIRES AND CONNECTING BLOCK. HEARD OF.. WIRED UP NOTHING... STOP IT...... 😅

[@AnthonyLinsalata-h8j]

Where did you order that from?

[@CitizenCycle925]

i believe i ordered it from LunaCycle.