Throwback Thursday: Liberalism and Libertarianism is not Catholic

[@williammcenaney1331]

I wish someone would define "liberalism" because I know of at least three senses of that word.

[@jefferson9277]

liberalism=soft hand sissy boy

[@Aqua_the_meek]

God bless your work brother! May we be armed in faith to resist individualism and re-learn with Jesus how to truly love each other as a society

[@wg820]

Air is already being sold . It's called a carbon tax and carbon credits.

[@asm_nop]

look, idk how carbon taxes go where you live, but in Canada it's pretty good. Most people still misunderstand and hate it, though. Carbon emissions on fuels are taxed predictably based on usage, then all the revenue is added up and equally divided evenly to all the citizens. That way, the average person gets their money back and effectively pays 0, and people like me get a couple hundred dollars a year as a reward for polluting less, paid for by the people who commute to their desk job in an F-350 Super Duty. It's not "selling air" in any discernable way, it's a financial incentive to pollute less that you can choose whether to take advantage of, nothing more/less.

[@carsonianthegreat4672]

@@asm_nopyou are missing the point. The fact that carbon taxes exists betrays the fact that the state believes it owns the air. Whether or not carbon taxes have utility is a different conversation entirely.

[@alphabeta8284]

@@asm_nopfound the NPC

[@carsonianthegreat4672]

27:38 Important to note here that this totalizing aspect of liberalism whereby everything is made to be contractual is an extrinsic process. These contracts hold weight because they are extrinsic to the individuals who are making them, and are backed up by the authority of the state itself as judiciary. This differs from the medieval feudal system of contracts and oaths where the contracts are given weight intrinsically, through a thick sense of custom, of duty, of divine authority, etc. Feudalism, notably, was also heavy on contracts, but the nature of how these contracts come about is fundamentally different than the deracinated way they come about in liberalism. Great video btw!

[@markbirmingham6011]

Fantastic. Comment for traction

[@carsonianthegreat4672]

57:13 This is such a good point. Archeologists have noted this phenomenon. Human height is very closely tied to nutrition. When we look at the average height of the medieval peasant in feudal England, we see that it was very close to what it is today. In fact, it has been argued by historians that the Middle Ages were the first time in human history when human heights reached their full genetic potential. With the rise of liberalism and then the Industrial Revolution, average height plummets dramatically. People were far shorter in the 1800s than they were in the 1200s, contrary to what many are less to believe by popular media. It wasn’t until the 20th century that the average height in the West recovered to where it was in the Middle Ages. That just goes to show how nutritious the diets of the peasants actually were under subsistence farming, and how poor they became under industrialism.

[@justinfoard3322]

I'm becoming a doomer. Even Montana voted pro-death on an abortion amendment during these last midterms. Basically, is it time to acknowledge the merits of the oft-maligned "Benedict Option?"

[@martyfromnebraska1045]

You mean to tell me one supreme court decision didn’t reverse decades of social engineering? Better run into a monastery or something.

[@josefdawson5284]

oof. heartbreaking stuff.

[@wg820]

How does one account for the slackers who live off the hard work of others while they do the minimum?

[@jacobjohns9187]

Found the boomer

[@asdfasdf3989]

What do you mean by accounting for them?

[@wg820]

In the economic world of "fairness", what has happened in the past is those with a penchant for doing the minimum possible will do just that because they no that hard work doesn't pay off. They still get the same as everyone else for the minimum effort.

[@lukeaudet8760]

@@wg820 historically they and their family would starve or live with just the bare minimum.

[@jkyep]

@@lukeaudet8760 Historically, they would have access to the local community's share land and the community's mill, and the river, and live a subsistance agriculture lifestyle. They won't be rich, but they won't be poor in the modern sense of the term, which is not participating in the wage labor economy

[@thomaspomeroy5678]

I think a Debate among Catholic at Acton Institute would be a great thing. I would definitely watch that.

[@jefferson9277]

lame

[@frenlyfire]

are*

[@wg820]

What happened in subsistence farming where there was a drought ?

[@benabaxter]

Live off forage and hunting. Common land is inseparable from small-scale farming. They also had silos. I'm sure there was more.

[@kexbeard3161]

So much lies and falshoods... So sad to here it in catholic circles...

[@Slaughter013]

I remember my first time trying to spell words and use grammar.