Thumb Button VS Index Release (Which will she choose?)

[@kb198219k]

Shorten up your release so that the calipers end were your middle finger begins. That will allow you to really dig in on the trigger with your index finger. Since the tip of your finger is more sensitive, you may be suprised when the bow actually goes off with it set this way.

[@BowDisciples]

Yup! That's how she normally runs it but after a year away it was off a bit

[@AllNighterHeider]

That's how Bruce had me set up. Lots of finger pad on the trigger. I think the curl of the finger creates less movement that way when pulling back to loose the arrow

[@Makka316]

Interestingly I was thinking the same thing about the thumb release. In the video it looks like the thumb trigger is extended a long way out resulting in the thumb having to open/stretch out a long way to wrap around it which might create some tension. Of course everyone is different so Brianna may very well prefer it like that but I quite like having my thumb in a relaxed position wrapping partially around the trigger post. Sort of similar to the way John Dudley or George Ryals might explain it. Once my thumb is in position I don't really think about it while pulling - actually "expanding" is what I visualise rather than "pulling" - through the shot. Would like to try an index release one day though.

[@AllNighterHeider]

Being in construction and a firearms guy, my thumb is not generally used to actuate anything. Ironically, with drills I use my middle finger and firearms I use my index. With my release I use my index also, that's what I'm learning on and that's what I'm comfortable with. Thanks Brianna and BD crew

[@BowDisciples]

Good point. Thanks!

[@michaelrea6764]

I use the Nock On wrist strap back tension release. Works very well coming from a normal index release to a back tension release.

[@BowDisciples]

Very nice

[@michaelrea6764]

@@BowDisciples using that release is like the best of both worlds. Wrist strap which is the same as an index release but the benefit of back tension which allows pulling thru the shot.

[@BowDisciples]

@@michaelrea6764 Awesome to to hear! Thanks!

[@michaelrea6764]

@@BowDisciples you are most welcome. Thank you for the content you put out.

[@BowDisciples]

@@michaelrea6764 Thanks for watching it!

[@percussionalobsecration6178]

I am just switching from index to thumb for the first time. Like many said, the wrist strap on the index release takes some of the weight of the draw. I just purchase the Stan axis release, which has a wrist strap on the thumb release. It is very adjustable for being a one-piece unit, trigger travel and tension can be set, as well as the thumb barrel being very ajustable. I am looking forward to really using this release, as, I am learning to use proper back tension instead of punch the trigger, like the first shot she took. I set up target at 10 yards in my basement today to work on technique, and am finding I like my thumb release more than my old index.

[@BowDisciples]

Sweet! Keep killing it

[@maplehappy]

i shoot all kinds of releases but always come back to the old reliable index trigger. i use a hinge release to really retrain my patience on the shot when i start to feel jumpy, but otherwise love the index. i use a kisser button, tip of the nose on the string, thats my anchor with any release, and the only change i see is left/right between releases. and, yes drawing is much easier with a wrist strap, i draw 70 pounds and its not a struggle for me, but its noticeably easier by like a lot with a wrist strap. shoot what feels best!

[@BowDisciples]

Agreed! Thanks for the well thought out comment

[@paulmendolia8483]

I'm in the same boat. I struggle with thumb release but not w my caliper release. I tried to keep up w newest development but just more comfortable wcwrist release. I do not have target panic so I can squeeze trigger no prob. Very useful info on this. Nobody is doing this stuff except Bow Desciples. Reaso is the market for hand releases .

[@BowDisciples]

Thanks a lot Paul! Glad you have something you're comfortable with

[@jasondodson5224]

Whenever you have the finger release on, you’re pulling more with your wrist instead of your hand when you had the thumb release you’re pulling more with your hand that’s why it feels better with the other one then with your thumb release I switch from a finger release to a thumb release and I shoot better with the thumb than I do with regular, but I can go between the two just in case my thumb release breaks

[@BowDisciples]

Good call, thanks man

[@adventuresofaveragemike]

It's easier with the index release because you are able to pull the weight with your wrist instead of your fingers. Think of it like when you are dead lifting at the gym with wrist straps, able to hold more weight. I did notice you wanted to punch the thumb button release after switching too. I think if you adjust the finger release to be a little shorter you could shoot it the same way you do your thumb release. Still good shooting with both though 👌

[@BowDisciples]

Good explanation, thanks bro!

[@editundo]

Sounds amazing!!! Unfortunately so cal, no cal. I hope you have an amazing turnout!!

[@BowDisciples]

Thanks man, you'll make it next year!

[@barbellsandbowhunting]

I think your index is shorter so the wrist strap takes more load on the draw. Maybe do the same with the wrist?

[@BowDisciples]

🤔🤔🤔

[@michaelbushey2787]

It feels easier because alot of the weight is going through your wrist and your arm. With the thumb there's weight on your fingers. So it feels easier.

[@BowDisciples]

Agreed, makes sense

[@paulmendolia8483]

But she has a wrist strap w the thumb release as well

[@BowDisciples]

@@paulmendolia8483 Yes but one is load bearing where the other (thumb) your holding the weight with your fingers.

[@jameshaines8746]

Just switched back to an index release, shooting lights out, sold the knock 2 it with no intention of going back to shooting like that

[@BowDisciples]

Good to hear, thanks for the feedback

[@andrewcoulter323]

I shoot an index release/ wrist rocket here in Australia, which I try to shoot with back tension haha, but when I switch to the hinge, I find my arrows land left of the target, interesting to see when you went back to the index release to see your arrows landing right of the target....😁also I try get more of my finger to wrap around the trigger than using the end of my index finger🤷‍♂

[@BowDisciples]

That's key 🔑

[@enaznhoj]

Another great video. Thanks guys.

[@BowDisciples]

Thanks a ton for watching

[@brianmalick2946]

I've never tried a thumb release because I anchor with my thumb on my neck.👍

[@BowDisciples]

Very nice!

[@mayhem035]

And i think its easier because of the levrage effect.. its physics. You are plulling farter back on the string .. so less resistance.. the thumb release is closer to the main cord, harder..

[@BowDisciples]

Good point!

[@AllNighterHeider]

I'm diggin that pineapple slice as a target

[@BowDisciples]

Same 😂

[@christopheracosta9823]

Gotta look up Joel Turner on Elk Shape KZbin channel, he has that Shot IQ course but the videos he does with Elk Shape he goes into detail about Not Punching the trigger, an how to truly control your shot, even for index finger shooters, there's a cple videos but if u watch em they definitely will help

[@BowDisciples]

Thanks buddy

[@jons7e]

Maybe the index requires less hand strength, which could benefit women with the draw? Plus it matches the bow and we know that's what really matters.

[@BowDisciples]

Yup, grip strength is what I'm thinking too

[@michaelmendez8984]

I switched back to the new Scott s2. Prolly won’t ever switch back to a thumb!

[@BowDisciples]

Awesome. What was the main reason for your switch?

[@elncalls]

Used a thumb for last two years. Went back to a Stan Solex index and I think I am going to stay with it.

[@BowDisciples]

Nice! What's your main reason?

[@elncalls]

@@BowDisciples For me the index gives me a safer feel, more consistent anchor, and simplifies the shot process. It is not that I shot bad with a button, just the index feels more natural to me. I gave it two years and 10’s of thousands of shots, index is here to stay.

[@emgee3604]

I went back to my index, I actually shot a thumb for years.. luv my index release

[@BowDisciples]

Good to hear, thanks!

[@theamputeehunter2074]

Do you think it’s easier to use a finger index release or a thumb button release and so you see a difference if you increase poundage and what I mean but that is I switched from an j des to a thumb button release and I can pull more weight with a thumb release the I can an index release any ideas why ? Thanks love your guy’s video

[@BowDisciples]

Each person will be different, I suggest trying both!

[@theamputeehunter2074]

@@BowDisciples okay sounds good I’ll d that for sure thanks

[@ashwilliams5792]

I started with an index release, then moved to a thumb release (Stan Onnex), but developed really bad target panic (command shooter)…I went back to my index release (which got worse!), then to a Stan Onnex Resistance. That was a game changer; night & day!!! I love that release!! I also bought a Stan Onnex Hinge, that I will eventually mess with…

[@theamputeehunter2074]

@@ashwilliams5792 nice thanks I’ll check both of them out

[@ashwilliams5792]

@@theamputeehunter2074 That’ll work! Honestly, I can’t speak enough about the resistance release; having only been shooting around 16 months, I was getting close to calling it quits!! I recommend checking out GOHUNT, that’s where I picked up the hinge. Really good prices & great military discount (fast shipping also)!

[@tjblackforest69]

You can activate both releases by pulling through with back tension, you know that right?

[@BowDisciples]

Yes, she literally says that in the video lol

[@tjblackforest69]

@@BowDisciples seems like I missed that ;-)

[@BowDisciples]

@@tjblackforest69 all good brother

[@kennethmontoya7111]

I usually go to a Archery Pro Shoppe and they said to sight the bow!!!

[@BowDisciples]

Very nice!

[@paulvalencia2676]

What kind of wrist strap do you have for the thumb release?

[@BowDisciples]

Native Archery Traditions. You can get on on bowdisciples.com

[@paulvalencia2676]

Awesome...thank you

[@kennethmontoya7111]

I shoot a Equalizer Compound archery bow i have to work on aiming the targets every time I shoot The Arrows go left and right!! I shoot a Equalizer Compound bow with gold pins!!!

[@BowDisciples]

Awesome!

[@jerryberkel8421]

Is that a samurai index?

[@BowDisciples]

I'm not sure

[@jerryberkel8421]

@Bow Disciples it looks like the exact same one I have. Mine is a scott samurai. I wasn't sure if I'd like it but surprisingly I like it alot.

[@BowDisciples]

That's great to hear!

[@timbow50]

I really hope she stays with a quality thumb. As u know they can be set to mimic a hinge. But if she doesn’t stop punching that that thumb guess I’m making a road trip out west! We gotta have a serious conversation.

[@BowDisciples]

😂😂 see you at the BD challenge

[@wcwcgarner2717]

I shoot a thumb button. A stan shootoff TL. I can pull through my shot better. I am more accurate wt a thumb button

[@BowDisciples]

Great to hear!

[@Caden006]

Is there any 3Ds coming soon?

[@BowDisciples]

This weekend at Lake Henshaw! Sunday

[@Caden006]

@@BowDisciples is it a sign up ?

[@BowDisciples]

@@Caden006 Just show up and sign up!

[@Caden006]

@@BowDisciples your a big help thanks for what you’re doing for San Diego

[@BowDisciples]

@@Caden006 Youre welcome! Say whats up if you see us there

[@HUNTFISHTIMP]

Yep, you punched the trigger because its not adjusted correctly!

[@BowDisciples]

Buddy she said this in the video 😂

[@HUNTFISHTIMP]

@@BowDisciples NOT BEFORE I COMMENTED! GUESS I GOTTA WATCH IT ALL FIRST. THEN I WON'T REMEMBER WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY, SO THERE WILL BE NO COMMENT! LOL

[@BowDisciples]

@@HUNTFISHTIMP hahahaha I'm just playing buddy, thanks!!!

[@HUNTFISHTIMP]

@@BowDisciples NO WORRIES! LOVE WATCHING U GUYS! KEEP IT UP

[@BowDisciples]

@@HUNTFISHTIMP Thanks man! We really appreciate it.

[@HUNTFISHTIMP]

Not adjusted correctly! Having to reach for the trigger is a no no! just fyi

[@BowDisciples]

I agree, she said this in the video

[@mikemehle1537]

The draw length should be different.

[@BowDisciples]

Yeah a bit

[@chrississon2646]

🏹🎯

[@BowDisciples]

Yewww

[@iamSofaK1nG]

HBC Flex Life! ;)

[@BowDisciples]

Lets gooo!

[@mayhem035]

Aren't you punching it like crazy? Your finger should be barried in the trigger, close to your knuckle. And not triggering it with the actual finger. Should be like a back tension release . Very very hard. You seem like punching it alot.. not sure i am not an expert.

[@BowDisciples]

Yes, we do need to adjust the trigger depth. She says this in the video :)

[@mayhem035]

@@BowDisciples not a bad comment by the way, i have that type of release and even with the Wright finger positioning. Do it all the time! Just don't have anybody filming me.. but it's awful..🤷‍♂️🤦‍♂️👊👍

[@BowDisciples]

@@mayhem035 I know brotha! Thanks for the support, we really appreciate it

[@progradepainting3755]

Hinge all the way

[@markhellema8847]

Punch it home..

[@frankwolf9187]

I gotta quit watching y'all's videos now. She wearing a Navy shirt! Lol. Retired Air Force. Lol.

[@BowDisciples]

😂😂😂 uhh ohhh

[@frankwolf9187]

@@BowDisciples all good. Just messing with ya!! Love all branches.

[@Glenfilthie1]

Ugh. I am fluttering in the breeze on this too. I get a cleaner release with the thumb button… but gawd, I loathe it…

[@BowDisciples]

Right on!