Thumb Draw Anchors | Asiatic Archery

A discussion on different anchor points used in thumb draw Asiatic archery.
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[@gizmonomono]

It's worth mentioning, for beginners, in terms of draw length, keep in mind what the maximum draw length of your bow is. If you're a shorter person, you can draw almost any bow as far as you can. If you're taller, or have longer arms, your anchor point can be determined by how far your bow can draw. Great video, my man! Glad to see you uploading often 😁

[@sebastienraymond3648]

Oh, I didn't know that thumb draw style archers used face walking for aiming. Good to know. 👍

[@FoolOfAMan]

I like how almost every video I watch of Nusensei just blows my mind and makes me realize I need to restucture my technique 😂 thank you for all your work and help you make me a better archer

[@user-bp1yl8np8q]

Excellent summary of this subject. I found this most helpful, particularly the part about wearing glasses. Thank you.

[@notapplicable531]

Talk about a detailed video with so much to digest. Thought profoking and one to watch again and again to get the most out of. I started out thinking I'm going to be commenting on what is going to left out, but here I am saying it's all here. One only has to take the time to find it all, or, more precisely, select what is relevant to the form of archery you plan to do. Thank you and "Many hits", as we say to our fellow archers when practicing traditional Korean archery.

[@ambidextrousarchery]

Thank you for a great video. Your messaging and explanations make complete sense to me. Primarily, I like your points about natural experimentation, alignment, anchors, and back tension as each archer discovers what works best to find their fit in archery. It is a video to watch repeatedly for reminders and reference. 🙇‍♂

[@PattyGoesZoom]

Thank you so much for the asiatic archery videos recently, got into it recently and it's been a massive boon.

[@paweolszowy772]

Great video, and just in time, I was wondering exactly that. I'm pleased to see more videos coming from you to answer the questions, even before I asked them. I'm also very happy to see you dropping videos more often recently! Stay awesome :)

[@irishsaturday7577]

Glad to have you back, Nu ❤

[@liammeharry]

Your videos are one of the most valuable resources I have when it comes to learning archery. Especially as one of the few at the club who's wearing big awkward glasses. Thanks man

[@joshuawhite1167]

I just got a horse bow and you have been so wonderful to watch and learn from

[@jonh4872]

Your videos never miss

[@makinganoise6028]

I went to Budapest in Hungary last week and shot at a traditional bows range, I shoot the same style Asiatic bows using thumb draw, what was interesting, was that they all were shooting 3 finger, they knew about thumb draw and were very keen on learning, tbh, I thought that is what they would be doing, some really nice hand made composite bows there , Im in England, nobody I know shoots like this, I am sure there are, but the old farts at Archery clubs here generally disapprove. My 2 cents, I dont think too much about anchor points, I start with back tension and keeping my eye on the target, the anchor kind of finds its place, I have a few bows and each is different, dependent on the style of bow etc, the Guy at the Hungarian place allowed me to borrow his really nice composite bow, and because I go more by feel and experience, I was able to pick it up and shoot it straight away without being too anxious I was going to stick one of the handmade wooden arrows in a wall, in other words, to echo NUSensei, have an idea of what you could be doing, but experiment and find what works for you.

[@adriandebeckelar2921]

historical hungarian archery used a mix of different draws , one of the most common being what we know as the slavic draw. the slavic draw is basically a 3 finger draw but soot on the thumb side of the bow and to keep the arrow in place you put your top finger on top of the arrow. Probably through the centuries of western european influence they dropped this style of drawing and now they use the 3 finger draw.

[@jesuspagan2121]

Good explanation. thanks for this video 🏹

[@UncleDanBand64]

Nicely explained sir.

[@ragingdawn9896]

I'm new to traditional asiatic, and there's other factor that my teacher taught on shorter draw length which is bow durability. I shot turkish and asked if I can draw past ear. even if I can do it, turkish and most of short length bow that local made with fibreglass tend to break faster with longer draw length like 30 or beyond. we can't talk about high polished handmade bow that made in china, turkey or korean since I'm in indonesian with high humidity and most of imported bow break faster. that's why in here durability comes first

[@UTxTheArchangel]

Rare time where a bow you're using in the video is a bow I own. lol Said before that I tend to anchor in the same way, feeling feather or my thumb knuckle. As someone who is mostly self taught in his backyard, I've never had to try different anchor points bc of distance. But my style has kinda become of the last couple years an amalgamation of watching Armin, you, and what feels natural, what feels comfortable.

[@crownberry164]

This is a very useful video for me since I am trying to get used to my new hankyuu bow, and I'm trying to practice with a metal thumb ring. I noticed that I instinctively tried to set the anchor point on the chick close to my eye, but this was because this bow was heavy for me. When I get used to its weight, I want to use an anchor point beside the ear.

[@gtptvanbuuren3795]

Thank you.

[@michaelc3416]

Just ordered my first Asiatic bow and thumb release, so trying to absorb as much as possible prior to its arrival. Question... well actually a couple... How does one best establish nock point location on an Asiatic bow? And related to that, without a rest or shelf, and with the handle shape of these bows, how does one achieve a consistently repeatable precise hand and arrow tip location? Great channel, BTW!

[@-fazik-3713]

Thanks!

[@rooroo9216]

I knew by looking at most of the Far Eastern archery styles they were using the feathers to anchor rather than the nock. I tend to shoot more Turkish/Ottoman style but off a Korean bow. Mainly because this enables me to shoot shorter bows. If I ever get a slightly longer horse bow I’ll probably attempt drawing to my ear or just in front of it (I’m 6ft 3” btw, I need to be careful not to break the bow). When you anchor with the feathers on the cheekbone do you still aim down the arrow? I have my thumb on my cheekbone (it’s almost the same as my Mediterranean anchor). I’ve had flu flu feathers halfway up my nose in full draw lol

[@Silentbet1of]

I was excited untill I saw the thumb ring, then I was less excited and was like oh he just like everyone eles 😊

[@inspectorgadget6321]

The Mighty Kheshig. I've debated buying that bow so many times. I'm going to just have to pull the trigger and get it.

[@jarchdm]

I've been experimenting for over a year with thumb draw even going from right handed to left handed. I tried eye level draw but found it difficult to get good alignment and use of back muscles. For me the higher elbow required for higher anchor made me use the arm and shoulder muscles much more than an under cheek anchor

[@user-wy2mi1ym3g]

That’s the point. Your traps and lats are an incredibly strong muscle group.

[@michaellewis5200]

Hi guys are there any good books on thumb draw that you recommend. I was practicing it last night at my local club and really like to get more out of it.

[@aarondavenport3143]

i use the string, i find it is more consistent

[@paweolszowy772]

Noice.

[@blackhorse508]

With these traditional bows , can we use the three fingers technique that we use with Olympic bows?

[@DatTran-gw6ch]

Yes. Different groups of people used all sorts of finger/thumb draws with historical bows. Three-finger draws were used too.

[@blackhorse508]

@@DatTran-gw6ch thanks for the help 😊 🙏

[@ajaxthe87]

Some bows are more comfortable than others. Short bows have more sharper string angles. But other than that you are good.

[@blackhorse508]

@ajaxthe87 yeah I guess sharper string angles mean less space for finger

[@jatisatrio]

yes you can check Lajos Kassai a Hungarian archer who developed a 3 fingers technique to used on mount archery.

[@Zephyr1202]

Why don't we draw this far back with a longbow or recurve? It seems like with a thumb draw and Asiatic archery you can get into better alignment from the longer draw length. This makes me wonder if I am under drawing my recurves and longbows now.

[@NUSensei]

It would be a mistake to assume that longer draws are objectively better. Alignment is not superior with a long draw - alignment is purely a result of elbow position. This can be achieved with a shorter draw as long as the wrist is unlocked and the arm is allowed to move as one unit instead of just the hand. The shorter draw used by recurve and longbow has a unique advantage - using facial anchor points, which are undoubtedly more consistent.

[@baz3184]

Im an archery instructor and one of my students wants to learn a "horse bow". I cannot for the life of me find a comfortable way to use thumb draw. Is there a good video for fat hands? 😂

[@makinganoise6028]

Best advice would be to start light, it will hurt a bit until you get used to it.

[@faresBtoush1990]

You can use leather to cover your thumb, a cylindrical chinese ring, or a traditional metallic ring. They're all slightly different. Check out armin hermer he did a couple of ring reviews a while back and he has good instructionals as well . Also start light as the other reply suggested for sure

[@baz3184]

Cheers for the advice. I usually shoot between 50 and 65lbs and it just wasn't happening. I've got a 35lbs somewhere I'll go dig it out and give that a shot