Thunderbolt 3 VS Thunderbolt 4: What's Different?

[@chumbawumba1959]

You really missed the mark on explaining the primary difference betweenTB3 and TB4. For  users, the two are basically interchangeable (other than the minor spec diffs) because  decided to implement the full TB3 spec in all of its hardware where TB was present. BUT FOR WINDOWS USERS ... the differences are huge. in the era of TB3, windows systems were all over the place. Some PCs that claimed to support TB3 didnt even have the hardware on board (so called TB3-compatible systems). Other windows systems might have included some TB3 features, but with many others missing. Net net, windows machines claiming TB3 might provide some but not all of the TB3 features. With TB4 that changes completely. If a windows system claims TB4 support, by def it must do everything and include all hw. That is the REAL difference between TB3 and TB4. Everything else is a bonus to  users.

[@Tackleqb]

How about if I am using a TB3 dock with a new Apple computer?

[@JustChillingOut]

@@Tackleqb - Sad he never responded back. And do we dare try to use a TB3 on a TB4 system?

[@adiands850]

Chumba Wumba, does this mean a  user can use any TB3 dock to get the full TB3 spec, or does the TB3 dock itself need to support the full TB3 spec?

[@Elfig2011]

Good video but a flowchart or graphics presentation would be better.

[@PeterEmery]

Two years on brings a bit of a change with the M3 laptops: they still only have Thunderbolt 3 but can support two external displays - provided the lid is closed.

[@edcgadgets-de]

Then you have the new usb-c plug spec to think of. For example, usb-c was limited to 100W power delivery, now apple adopted the new 2.1 plug to make the 140W PSU that ships with the 16” MBP possible.

[@D1N3SH]

is thunderbolt 3 forward compatible with thunderbolt 4?

[@JustChillingOut]

⚠️ Thunderbolt 4 is a must have for those of us who will be streaming dozens of audio tracks and MIDI tracks simultaneously. I typically reach 40 to 60 tracks within the first couple hours of production. This is extremely important for streaming massive sound libraries from your external SSD to run DAW. (Digital audio workstation) such as Apple’s Logic Pro X working in tandem with East West Opus Diamond sound library, which is a 994 gig sound library. No mention if a thunderbolt three SSD will work on Thunderbolt four properly as it’s real hard right now to find a wide variety a thunderbolt four supported SSD. You might want to make another video that addresses this highly important issue. Thanks in advance! 🥸

[@pocket1684]

Is it possible for a thunderbolt 2 interface to work w my new thunderbolt 4 mac?

[@jaegervand2112]

That is nonsense! I have SD3 and NI Ultimate, and have run full orchestras with over 70 tracks through USB 3.2 and Thunderbolt 3 drives. No problems whatsoever.

[@jaegervand2112]

@@pocket1684 Yes. You need a thunderbolt 2 to thunderbolt 3 adapter. Apple has one.

[@pocket1684]

@@jaegervand2112 Thank YOu so much.

[@jaegervand2112]

@@pocket1684 You´re welcome :)

[@JohnWallace74]

I have looked on-line and you can’t find any Thunderbolt 4 docks in stock anywhere that have all the multiple ports.. they are all sold out.

[@DanteKnox]

does it matter which one I use if I'm just going to be watching KZbin videos on my laptop?

[@bvill6749]

If I use thunderbolt 3 from an M1 MacBook Pro to an Apple studio display… your saying it’s the same performance as a TB4? Unless in adding more monitors correct?

[@pocket1684]

Can I use a Thunderbolt 2 device into my new Thunderbolt Mac Studio?

[@PeterEmery]

Yes, because Thunderbolt 4 is backwards-compatible. With the Thunderbolt 3 to Thunderbolt 2 adaptor you can connect Thunderbolt 1 or Thunderbolt 2 devices to a Mac with Thunderbolt 3 or Thunderbolt 4.

[@bertraminc9412]

TH4 doesn’t work on my MacbookPro. My dock drops my speakers instantly with no sound. Apple continues to break more than they make.

[@CitAllHearItAll]

Video starts at 2:12

[@gabyisabellegelinas7113]

So I have a question for you: the MacBook Pro 13 only has 2 Thunderbolt 4 ports. Nothing else, no USB, no HDMI, no nothing. I am told by Apple that I cannot connect two external monitors to this MacBook. If I understand you correctly, their info isn’t accurate and I should be able to connect two external monitors on each Thunderbolt 4 port? Or use a docking station to do so? Either way, I COULD connect two external monitors, right?

[@BilalAhmed-fc6bc]

Hey, I think the MacBook Pro 13 inch has 2 thunderbolt THREE ports

[@Jpbawlings]

If you have two tunderbolt 3 or 4 connectors for sure you will be able to use atleast two external screens. Because one tunderbolt 3 port can actually run two aswell. You will need a hub or egpu though.

[@MisterMister5893]

I've been looking at a NAS / DAS recently as my storage needs is scaling. NOTHING in the low - to medium price range has TB 4 ports. Heck, most are only kicking around TB 3 and USB 3.1 1st Gen (5Gbps). You really have to spend a little bit more to get the fastest specs.

[@edwardrichardson8254]

Andrew, where did you get that King of Hearts (aka Suicide King) canvas wall art? Thx!

[@samanthagriffinv2.08]

Not really enough to warrant a whole generation upgrade it should be more like thunderbolt 3.1 or something like that

[@officialovercoming]

Dear Sir, I need help and you appear to be HIGHLY HIGHLY skilled in this area. I am in the process of purchasing a dock for my gaming laptop. I am a PC Gamer who works a lot and is always on the go, ergo, I went the gaming laptop route. I wish to having a docking station at home so I can plug in all my peripherals and an external monitor so that when I get home, I just plug in my laptop to the dock and i'm good to go. As far as my setup goes, I plan to use a Dell 27-inch 1080P 144hz gaming monitor (just one), a keyboard, mouse, ethernet, and some speakers. Will a USB-C dock be enough? Or do I need to go the thunderbolt route? Do i connect the monitor to the dock using displayport or hdmi?

[@WargodFilms]

If it's not to a uib would work fine stick with HDMI for the moment

[@ddempsey8771]

I own a LG 24MD4KL-B 24 Inch Ultrafine UHD (3840 x 2160) IPS Monitor, P3 Wide Color Gamut 500 nits Brightness, Thunderbolt 3 (x2), USB-C Ports (x3) and I plan on purchasing a mac mini m2 (which has 2 thunderbolt 4 ports). the cable to my thunderport 3 monitor stopped working and needs to be replaced. Would there be any benefits of purchasing a thunderport 4 cable if I plan on using it with a thunderport 3 monitor?

[@Jpbawlings]

Nope, except the fact that this cable is more future proof. So if you ever have something that requires tb4 you will have a suitable cable. It is the same with hdmi (1.4, 2.0, 2.1) you can use a 2.1 with a 4k (30fps) monitor which a 1.4 cable can aswell, but if you ever go to 4k 120fps the 2.1 will be the only suitable one.

[@PlayVividly]

Hi There I have a tricky question. I have a handheld PC, intel based, and I’m using an EGPU enclosure housing a Nvidia 3090. The handheld PC has 2x thunderbolt 3 ports. So If the egpu is connected to one of the ports and charging the handheld pc, what happens if I use a Thunderbolt 3 dock (like the Caldigit TS3 plus) on the 2nd port? My real question would the EGPU and the TS3 plus dock kill the battery of my handheld pc? Because both the thunderbolt 3 ports are capable of receiving power to charge the battery………. Gut feeling it would overcharge the battery

[@Jpbawlings]

It won't, because laptops that support usb-c charging take only the wattage needed. For example if you chose to use a 100watt charger on a notebook that requires 60w it will only take 60. Same goes for your situation with two inputs.

[@jackedkerouac4414]

My new audio interface is thunderbolt 3 and my macbook pro is 4. There should be no issue if I go ahead and use a thunderbolt 4 cable right? Also is it better for me to plug the audio interface directly into my laptop or better to use a hub?

[@Jpbawlings]

Using a hub is usually less efficient than directly into the notebook. Nope, only the other way around can cause problems.

[@shelleymusicpublishers4416]

I have a M1 Mac mini and an M2 Mac mini...can I share files between the two using Th.3/Th.4 cable? Or is it only for a display cable? Also....can I use Th. 3 on both ends...or Th.4 on both ends. Or must it be one cable with both 3 & 4 on it.?

[@pritam_kaushik]

Are thunderbolt 3 cables going to be compatible/useful for thunderbolt 4 ports?

[@clavace5036]

SAME QUESTION - Can I use Thunderbolt 3 cable to connect MacBook Pro M2 Max to Thunderbolt 4 dock?

[@Jpbawlings]

It depends on the requirements of the dock. If you want to use the max data transfer, then no. As an example of this: all tb4 cables can run two 4k monitors, but not all tb3 can. But in most situations tb3 cable will work fine. Most egpus are tb3 aswell.

[@luisrosas3012]

Hi Andrew, what is a good thunderbolt dock box for 4 devices, in my case it will be 4 monitors, each one working on something different! Thanks a lot for all your help!!

[@nealybeans]

I am looking to get a new monitor. What are the Pros and Cons if my computer has TB4 or my monitor has TB3?

[@Jpbawlings]

Well, it depends on the computer/notebook. If you want to use two 4k monitors, or one 8k with the tb4 you are insured it will work. With tb3 you need to do your research, for anything else tb3 will be fine. I think the biggest difference comes when you need to use multiple USB c tb3/4 devices. TB4 can extend to more things from one port then the tb3 can.

[@tray-cityyy2084]

M8, i want to buy a MacBook that supports thunderbolt 3. Which do u think i should get.

[@user-ms8qg2rz5s]

Why thunderbolt 5 isn’t come out now ?

[@EmperorZelos]

It takes time adding 1 to 4

[@Andres.N_SK]

Couse there's no need yet and the hardware is not allowing more Bandwith yet, last year was a good year for usb C, couse the alliance find the way to transfer up to 240W of power, however with no changes on the data transfer side couse still on up to 40 gb/s

[@CreepyJoe69]

​@@Andres.N_SK We need 100 GBps and 512 bit SSL encryption to upload and hide my homework folder on Cloud.😢😢😢😢

[@Jpbawlings]

Most egpu's can't even optimize the maximum data speed on tb4, technology is not advanced enough to have any use for tb5. Another example is that tb5 would be able to support more then an 8k monitor, or double 4k, which most gpu's can't handle with higher frame rates.

[@sposo]

is looking stupid is part of the specification process when making videos?

[@taranagnew436]

i have a usb c hub, can i use it on tb 3/4?

[@Jpbawlings]

Yes.

[@teddyboamah]

Thank you for this video

[@terribleyouth]

Hello great video ❤ I have QQ I was considering buying Mac Book Pro 14 will it work with Universal Apollo twin? I am worried that my sound card Apollo twin works with thunderbolt 3 but it won’t run with the new thunderbolt 4 cable. Please help me if you know something

[@ianwhite351]

fully backwards compatible. So by definition (and requirements within the TB4 protocol) It would have to support the device fully. So yes it will work

[@terribleyouth]

@@ianwhite351 thanks 🤙

[@margaretprenger5828]

Love your videos ‼️

[@rossgeography]

USB4 support for TB2/3 is nascent at best !

[@bryans8656]

Thanks for the clarification.

[@desklamp4792]

You look like Seth Rogen

[@toddjasper1]

Always wondered this…

[@Dragon-Slay3r]

Nice comments all round

[@nguyenanhnguyen7658]

Trick to sell more PC, users upgrade new PC etc... :) Old trick.

[@timf6916]

NO deal for me

[@noupot]

I do not care as long as the cable is fitting my Mac.

[@WEVA111]

That look at 5:39 doe 😍💀😭

[@jgoincomedy5837]

the difference is 1. I'll see myself out.

[@MajorCaliber]

It's difficult to get excited about Apple "technology" when you're hetero... and not a cult-member. PS: why is iOS speech-to-text SO lame?

[@Jpbawlings]

Tb3/4 is not just for Apple...