The Thunderf00t - Ray Comfort discussion (Part 2)

[@endrightwinglunacy]

I love how Ray says that you can't make an "absolute statement", and says things like: "God created everything because it says so in the scriptures"

[@rowanlol]

+endrightwinglunacy It is not Ray making that absolute statement, it is God that is making that absolute statement. We cannot possibly make absolute statements unless it involves the revelations of God, because it are His abosulte statements.

[@endrightwinglunacy]

MrPringlez Yes, and tortoisey fingernailish, paintbrushism.

[@rowanlol]

endrightwinglunacy Were you trying to be funny or is that supposed to be some kind of argumentation?

[@davidbarroso1960]

+MrPringlez Saying that God is making that absolute statement is an absolute statement in of itself.

[@rowanlol]

David Barroso The absolute statement comes from the Bible, which is the Word of God. God proved that His Word is true by resurrecting Jesus Christ from the dead.

[@Perineon]

It always boils down to the god of the gaps argument. The question is what will people do when the gaps are filled?

[@jabronjunklove760]

Nivek Kelone At that point, humans will be omniscient, just like God. Then theists will be like, "See, I told you the gods are real!"

[@vitalsteve1]

the same thing theyve been doing forever, finding new gaps to pour their koolaid into

[@Jmartin2683]

so comfort's argument is: stuff exists, so god did it. i can't tell if he's serious or just trolling.

[@carlos89784]

+James Martin Me too hahhahahahahaha I really can't tell!

[@larryjake7783]

+Carlos E R Pimentel I cannot tell if this man is trolling. If he is, he is definitely the King. He said he knows the painting is from a painter because of common sense, and he even claims he would know even if he didn't have the experience of seeing a painter or paintings before...how...how is that remotely possible. That is like you Carlos, saying you know where fibyfol came from..and you do not know what it is at all.

[@carlos89784]

Larry Jake That is how dangerous bible is. It doesn't make sense, but millions follow it afraid to go to hell.

[@larryjake7783]

Carlos E R Pimentel I just watched the Thuderfoot vs Westboro Baptist Church video...Ray is a saint compared to those ladies...man that was horrible to watch. Not defending Ray but I just can't believe what I just watched. They are just as defiant as Ray but they are filled with anger.

[@georgegardner7538]

+James Martin Ray Comfort is actually the greatest troll that has ever lived.

[@allen764]

It looks like TF and RC are touching feet... just adorable.

[@viczio]

Cannot Unsee XD

[@Hal566]

thank you sir for some serious giggles >

[@_Aly_00_]

Thx so funny but I CAN'T UNSEE

[@scottycbeats675]

😂😂😂😂

[@GENOSAD]

(Careless Whisper slowly fades in)

[@edc2380]

Very respectful debate We need more discussions like this. Although Ray seems to pick and choose which arguments to listen to.

[@dharkbizkit]

yes, you're right. but on the other hand, it's without a point to have a discussion with 2 people, that are stuck on their opinions and nothing on earth will change that. it's no discussion, because you neighter change your opinion, nor can you find a middle way that both can agree on. It's just a battle of arguments, that the other will dismiss. it's entertaining, yes, but useless.

[@GrosJambonTBNK]

dharkbizkit This conversation in particular got over 150k views. Maybe some of the people listening to it will start thinking in a more open way and will understand things. Civilised conversations are always useful.

[@ndblckmore]

dharkbizkit neighter? [DOES.NOT.COMPUTE]

[@MrTheEtcetera]

Much more respectable than his debate with Eric Hovind.

[@dexis9412]

Ed C23 I was thinking the same thing, and FAR more respectable than that baptist church

[@woodwwad]

Ray turn that paper over. Take that pen out and start taking notes, since you just got taken to school you should at least take notes.

[@abumy4]

+Alberto Balsalm Well the inforation is in the same amout, stuttering or not

[@thatyoutubechannel9953]

+Alberto Balsalm (Sign of actual thought being put into the argument)

[@MatthewNJDavis]

That forced some air out of my nose. Thank you for your humour, and congratulations on having it.

[@4TheRecord]

+Alberto Balsalm Judging a person's intelligence based on how they speak is just another form of discrimination. So what if he stutters? It doesn't change what he is saying and so far you have not made any attempt to challenge him for what he said. Typically when people either can not win an argument or even form an argument they resort to personal insults and attacks.

[@craigcorson3036]

If he was embarrassed, it was only from his recognition of the fact that he and the idiot are of the same species. That fact embarrasses me as well.

[@Why_are_you00]

It's really difficult to talk to stupid people.

[@mattg3696]

It's like he's talking to a plant.

[@Why_are_you00]

Oswald Cobblepot Like a banana tree?

[@woodwwad]

Taylor Moore LOL

[@TDghf]

Oswald Cobblepot Don't insult plants man, not cool.

[@juliengravier3917]

That's why I'm not sure it's a good thing to debate them, talking to someone with no reasoning ability at all is draining and frustrating. And most people don't judge the outcome of a debate by how sound your arguments are, but by how angry you were able to get your opponent.

[@TheNordawg]

Why does all talks with Comfort end up with some poor guy trying to educate Ray from scratch like he never learned anything from previous engagements?

[@ubernagash]

was it gods will for ray to be thick as fuck maybe, I guess he's not one of the chosen ;)

[@youtubeisapublisher6407]

God created ray comfort to be the stupidest human being on the face of the planet. He has no other purpose than to spread stupidity, and reject intelligence. No but really, Ray is a devout believer in money. His religion happens to make him tons of money, so he is extra religious, because he gets extra money.

[@williamarthur3928]

because he doesn't

[@mareofstature]

im happy to see that two men can sit down have vastly different views and hold an intelligent discussion without degrading to insults

[@AlfaHazard]

*Polite discussion. There's nothing remotely intelligent about Ray Comfort...

[@konnerspears7964]

​@@AlfaHazardthat's rude

[@thefaithslayer2553]

_If God made-a man_ _in his own-a image_ _why aren't we all, like...invisible?_ - Father Guido Sarducci

[@fracey__1511]

We are thats why you have a spirit and a soul

[@coolgamerman]

tinashe fireyi our BODIES

[@oldmanjenkins38]

Comfort and his circular logic. I know god exists because the bible. The bible is real because god exists.

[@SalisburyKarateClub]

How does Comfort know that animals don't have morals. Isn't he making a claim he can't prove?

[@craigcorson3036]

It has been shown that some animals DO have certain elements of what we call conscience. Apes recognize when a situation is unfair, for example.

[@WalkTalkVent]

Creation vs non creation and you can actually understand both of them rather than having to decipher the yelling like other duos

[@1R0QU012]

I really appreciate Thunderf00t’s willingness to have these types of conversations with people

[@weaponizedmemes3461]

Me too, but he hasn't done this in a long time.

[@deanmoncaster]

"what's the difference between us and animals" Nothing. "What makes us think we're the highest life form?" Who says that dogs aren't running about thinking "we're the highest form of life, we use these stupid humans to feed us and throw sticks for us, idiots"

[@EvilSearchEngine]

I feel embarrassed for Ray each time I watch this, but thank you Tf00t for putting up with this.

[@vashna3799]

Two human beings but seemingly separated by 400 years in term of human learning and understanding. Welcome to the 17th century Ray Comfort!

[@nocies6595]

did you know that the bible says the earth is a sphere over 2000 years before scientists verified it? you sure ray is the one behind the times?

[@vashna3799]

were does it say the bible is a sphere? Give me chapter and verse please. And while your at it give me chapter and verse were it also says the earth is about 3.5 billion years old and revolves around the sun, not the other way round.

[@olivernorton9848]

Storm Hawk Technically it's a circle biblehub.com/isaiah/40-22.htm

[@vashna3799]

Circles are flat

[@raz0rcarich99]

Ray Cumfart starts with a question, waits till right before Thunderf00t gets to the point, interupts and asks a new question, waits till he comes to the point again, and then switches between these questions when he is about to lose the argument. Ray has no factual arguments, what so ever. He only makes claims and assumptions based on his belief. He is using tactics to avoid explaining himself and to seem talkworthy. This guy is what we call a charlatan.

[@michaelanirudhan606]

Cumfart? ............................................nice

[@jwhistletest146]

I love how Thunderf00t keeps trying to bring Comfort back to the points he's trying to escape! It's like talking to a fucking toddler!! Thunderf00t Abú!!!

[@Katekazoo]

I love that you've made this video because it helps others like me debate the usual religious fanatic who has the exact same questions as ray here does.Great videos!

[@gouskin]

What should have been said: You have seen a painter make a painting, therefor if you see a painting, your automatic assumption is that someone painted it. You have never witnessed a god making a universe, therefor when you see the universe, you cannot automatically assume that a god did it.

[@fracey__1511]

gouskin and you can’t automatically say he didn’t but Just wait on him you will see him soon for he will return but it will be too late

[@anuraglamichhane1733]

Thunderfoot kinda said that " painters make a painting is an empirical observation, so you can't compare the two because there's no empirical observation of god making the universe."

[@photografr7]

Animals don't know right from wrong and the difference between good and evil? If you believe that, you've never seen a mother (or any animal) taking care of its young. Would a mother cat devour her kitten? NO Would a mother cat allow a strange animal or other cat approach her young without defending them? NO The moral laws of cats are not written down, but all cats know it somehow. Were cats made in the image of God?

[@captainassbananas2360]

That is something called maternal instinct. It's an adaptation for survival. If the mother cat simply devoured her kitten because she was hungry, or allowed some other strange organism to approach and possibly harm it because she didn't care, then the chances of a new generation of cats continuing is significantly lower. Since it is vital for the next generation to come into being to create another new generation, the parts of the brain responsible for maternal instinct developed to allow the species to survive. It's an evolutionary trait present in all higher life forms.

[@randomblackperson2]

do you not know of the internet cats are god and even the Egyptians praise the cats as holy

[@photografr7]

Captain Assbananas You've oversimplified animal behavior tremendously. Animal behavior (like human behavior) can be changed in less than 10 seconds. There's no difference at all. Animals don't think to themselves, "I won't do X, Y, Z, because my species will end." Rubbish.

[@argylegargoyle3909]

You know, I was just thinking about something similar to this once Ray went on about humans and how we are the only moral creatures. I would propose a few questions; Let's say you have a child but you're a bad parent and you never ever ever once played a game with them or read to them or anything mentally stimulating. Well, would that not be immoral? I think everyone can agree that is indeed an immoral method of parenting. So, as you've said before, with the mama-cat defending her kittens, she would also play with them and teach them the ways of the world from her mama-cat perspective. Dolphins play games with members of their pods and members of pods of dolphins from different species. Bottlenose dolphins will actually help Spotted dolphin mothers babysit their calves. Is that not even more of a defining moral action? Two dolphins from different species working together for the benefit of their families. Ray needs to get humanity off this pedestal. Humans may have a word for morality and an understanding of that word, but you don't exactly see members of the animal kingdom committing devastating wars to their own species every generation.

[@photografr7]

Argyle Gargoyle I've often noticed that my dog is a lot more moral, and loving, and friendly, and kind, and playful, and intelligent than many of the human I know, and certainly more moral than Adolf Hitler, which, I am embarrassed to say, is also a member of mankind and God's creation.

[@richardhead1674]

The difference between atheists and creationists is, atheists think for themselves. creationists are told what to think, and in a lot of cases made to feel guilty about there existence. Don't be controlled, breakout. Instead of going to church next week, Visit a neighbour, and do a couple of odd jobs for them. Make better use of your time.

[@H31MU7]

So what you're saying is "Why go to church when you can come and mow my lawn for free?" Could you just imagine what would happen on a Sunday morning if almost two billion people didn't waste half the day talking to themselves?

[@Chronosara]

I have only gotten through part 1 and half of part 2, and though you consider yourself to be with God, as a Christian, I have to say that God has blessed you with massive amounts of patience. I would have not been able to be in this conversation as Ray is all over the place, nor did he seem to even care about the conversation. I hope you are well. Thanks for making these videos. (^_^)

[@jlc012]

I always thought thunderfoot was great but never figured patience was his biggest attribute. Hats off to you for putting up with this guy, veins would have popped in my head by the third minute.

[@ranmashin]

The whole arguement over rather paintings come from painters is so pointless and non-sense rhetoric.

[@arcticwolf9802]

Thank you I would not have assessed that

[@openureyes929]

I used to look up to ray comfort n co... USED TO.. !!! My God I was an idiot !!!

[@abumy4]

+This person is not a troll Welcome to the sane world my friend.. And just remember, we should never stop learning, becouse progress depends on that!

[@unfortunatebeam]

So you got a kick out of the banana thing?

[@Huskymax]

Andrew Jackson ray has to be the 2nd dumbest fuck on the planet after Ken ham.

[@xMaZi100]

8:40 Thunderfoot corrects him on the bible lol

[@bendadswell6029]

thunderf00t! your patience levels are outstanding! there's no way i'd be able to listen to Ray's bullshit for as long as you did without telling him he's a complete spactard.

[@SteveFrenchWoodNStuff]

I love how Ray is all for science when he thinks it supports his god delusion (when he as talking about "conscience" meaning "with knowledge"). Yet he denies the value and findings of science in virtually ever other case.

[@bratanekd]

I think it is funny that Mr. Comfort says that the difference between man and animals is that "man is a moral being, that we set up court systems, when none of the animals care about justice and truth". Unfortunately for Mr. Comfort, this is simply not true. Any pack or civilization, if you will, of animals has its own unique way of enforcing the rules on the others in their society. For instance, an alpha wolf will strictly enforce the rules of the pack on those who disobey the rules. Apes, lions, elephants and virtually every animal that utilizes a group of individuals have rules and not following them is punished, which we would call "justice".

[@richardlewis8203]

How do you keep your patience with these people is beyond me. Keep up the good work. Rich

[@impferious3099]

tl;dw: Ray Comfort: God Thunderf00t: Logic Ray Comfort: Poor Rebuttal Thunderf00t: Strong Logic Ray Comfort: *puts fingers in ears* la la la god god god

[@Ryattt81]

We climbed out of trees, that led us to free hands, big brains, and self awareness. That last one is the key to what you are talking about. Once we have the ability to ask questions, we seek to answer them. These questions were unanswerable because of a lack of technology, but we still needed explanations. Gods logically followed. But since we are able to answer almost all of the questions god answered, there is no more need.God is a comfort, but we don't need him to explain what we see anymore

[@blazer7811]

"If someone actually lies to you as much as not, then there is no point in language. The mere fact that we have language shows that we are a trustworthy species." My mind just exploded

[@slackjaw703]

So if the only paintings you've ever seen were produced by Jackson Pollock, & came upon a canvas lying under some scaffolding that was splattered with paint, you would know that it was created by Pollock. However, if you'd arrived a minute earlier you would've noticed that a strong breeze had toppled some cans of paint that were sitting on the scaffolding, & saw that the 'painting' was created by the paint dripping down from the upset paint cans. So from that we can infer that not all paintings need a painter. Watchmaker argument over.

[@the2ndanswer]

"can you make snow from nothing?" "uhh.. so you're asking can i violate the law of conservation of energy?" "that's right" lol

[@danielramcke7262]

There is empirical evidence of "charity" in the animal kingdom, there is also evidence of "evil" killing in nature, kill for sport or fun. Human holds no monopoly in social behavior. Just in self awareness.

[@tpstrat14]

I would have loved to see both of these men learn something from each other. I didn't see much of that happening. However, the fact that they even had this discussion is evidence that they tried. Uniting seemingly opposite viewpoints is what the world needs. Everyone believes in love, we just all see that truth in a different way. With a committment to understanding each other, we could realize that we're all essentially the same, atheist, Christian, Buddhist or Muslim.

[@BryanELx]

If God created the universe then who or what created God? And if God has always existed without a beginning, then why can't creationists accept the universe itself may have always existed without a beginning? It's only because we think within the confines of human reasoning that we can't understand something could exist without a beginning. Our brains are not capable of comprehending the truth. To think we can is just arrogant.

[@SeniorCharry]

Must support Thunderf00t, cant let stupid win, modern society at stake.

[@biohoo22]

5:00 "because i'm a human being; being means [you are aware that you exist]" Wow, Ray. Wow.

[@sindx]

"Accident isn't really an option..." Fucken Brilliant!!!

[@sain223]

The blind faith in a book that was written by men is baffling.

[@opba93]

"After you convince yourself of a point, you're correct." Best viewpoint ever!

[@flaglesspirate5250]

A painting can easily be painted without a painter. Let's say you have a canvas set up on a easel in your garage, under a shelf of paint. A 9 magnitude earthquake later, the paint falls off the shelf and onto the canvas. Coincidentally, you had all the colors used in the Mona Lisa, and the Earthquake shook the land in such a way that made the paint mimic the exact brush strokes. Is the creator God, then? If so, that means that someone/thing must of created God, because he technically superseeds the idea of a "creator" (the painter) for the painting.

[@shnosmas]

they're so polite to eachother. i love how , when u debate a theist, first u have to teach them about logic and the subject at hand

[@CharlieTV]

Thunderf00t: *good arguments* Ray: can you make snow? its beautiful.

[@TheMrMcLoL]

You can easily just destroy the moral and animal conversation just by saying they do have conscience. If for example your dog tears up the furniture you punish it and its afraid of more punishment if he does it again so animals do have a conscience they learn.... Correct if I said something wrong

[@dakrisis]

Ow Ray, everytime I find myself gravitating towards a creationist world view I only have to listen to you for a couple of seconds and I'm cured! Thanks!

[@websiteusername]

Ray said "You can't make anything from nothing." He just disproved God right there.

[@garcope7858]

great discussion, both had their reasoned arguments and didn`t let the differing beliefs devolve in a chaotic shouting match

[@eliparker7151]

I've found a little "gem", if you will, about matter. In the double slit experiment, _matter_ made a _wave-like_ pattern when not closely observed, but made a _matter-like_ pattern when closely observed. The wave-like pattern could only have taken place if the electron went through both holes simultaneously and interfered with intself. If matter (in this case electrons) are able to, in a way, _sense_ our presence and do strange things which defy our understanding

[@fascination1980]

@tdrake59 The Thunderf00t video I mentioned in my last post is titled, "Why Do People Laugh At Creationists Part 8". That's the video in which he deals specifically with the issue you mentioned in your post (statistical probability of atoms "arranging" in a certain way). Also, natural selection is not by "chance" or random (I apologise if I'm misinterpreting what you posted but this is what I saw implied in your post). Again, I'm happy to message you with links showing this. Thanks

[@mistertool2533]

Ray gets shipwrecked and wakes up on an isle beach. He notices that the rocks on the beach are polished so he start looking for the polisher to ask him for help... :)

[@tmargette]

I love this conversation. My theory is the mind power of everyone on earth is what people who believe in religion call God. I've tapped in to that energy, and society calls me a psychic, because I can see more than others. However, I believe that all people can do this. I don't attribute to "god," just a human fabric need for justice. I boil it down to waves and science. Not a god.

[@collinnicholas1]

this interview went much better than the one with westboro baptist. i give mr comfort credit for allowing tfoot to speak and he actually listens

[@squidpizza6320]

if nothing can be created or destroyed, mr. Comfort, then how did yaweh create the universe?

[@brpierce]

Actually, the Bible says repeatedly that man is created in God's image, but the point I was trying to make was that there's a pretty obvious answer to Ray's "Why do we perceive ourselves as being the highest form of Creation" that doesn't rely on the Bible--that answer being "Because we're a fairly narcissistic species."

[@ZinthYneX]

"Is America a stable society?" "It propagates, yes."

[@bimbumaru]

people usually studder when they are trying to explain something for a child to understand. The studdering is the affect of having to put themselves down to a child's level resisting the urge to use big words and advanced ideas.

[@earlgrey2130]

Two people talking past each other because they live in completely different worlds.. one got his knowledge through education and thinks he needs to fight ignorance and the other confuses ignorance for knowledge and thinks he doesn't need be educated.

[@HeavyMetalJesus02]

This debate is a bit of a headache. It doesn't really seem like a debate except for one point where he mentioned the writing in the sand. Everything else Ray just says "Because God did it." Which doesn't progress the debate at all.

[@MarcusW8]

Belief is not about being asked the question, it's about being presented with a set of material. That set of material has not been presented to the atheist according to him/her and as such that person does not have a reason to decide one way or the other. If someone else then comes along and says you should believe because x, x being whatever optional nonsense reason, the person answers "no i should not" - essentially claiming that the required set of material has yet to be presented to him/her.

[@EagleOn3]

I thought this was a very respectable debate. I thoroughly enjoyed it.

[@Flea817]

@Cummnz Nice way to completely go around what I was saying. All I said was that if neither of us can prove there is or isn't a god, wouldn't be more sensical to say there isn't just off of common sense alone?

[@Agent80x]

We ARE animals!!!!!! The "morality" that most of us share is a result of what is good for the whole. Most of these "morals" can be observed in all forms of life; just because we are able to label it doesn't mean it's exclusive to our species. And it certainly does NOT point to any sort of creation.

[@CRAJish]

Regarding the point about murder. In moral terms there is an important distinction between murder as a judicial concept ie unauthorised killing and killing another human in terms of morality. Most human societies have a concept of murder and usually this means the killing of someone in your social group for personal gain, however there are, equally instances where killing for self defence, the defence of others or even more abstract motives which can be determined as being for social good (with greatly varying criteria) is acceptable or indeed seen as a social duty. This certainly seems to strongly suggest that, while indiscriminate killing is generally not socially acceptable the precise boundaries for when it is and is not moral are cultural rather than an inherent quality of humanity. It's also worth noting that in most animals intra-species killing is fairly rare and even where it is observed it is generally for some evolutionary advantage, species that indiscriminately slaughter each other seem to be strangely absent.

[@avedic]

Thunderf00t does an excellent job here. He was so calm and cool compared to Ray fidgeting from one point to the next. I think Ray was trying to trip Thunderf00t up at every point...but hampered by Thunderf00t's ability to break things down and slow down to address each claim...something that destroys every last one of Ray's points. Sometimes I honestly think Ray may be a charlatan. I simply cannot conceive that he's honest. He's not dumb...he KNOWS he's misrepresenting things. He just has to...

[@brpierce]

"how is it easier to believe something nobody has witnessed (genus/phyllum level evolution)" Actually, we've witnessed events at the genus level, and even at the family level. It is exceptionally unlikely that an event at the phylum level would ever take place--such an event would be massively beyond anything predicted by the theory of evolution.

[@rambledogs2012]

@tmargette 'Where I got it from' was in relation to the documentation. I was under the impression you had a signed and stamped document confirming your 'ability' but now I understand what you meant. I would indeed like to take a read of it though if possible.

[@belligerent81]

@hustondodgball, He's not using the long winded approach, he's taking what Ray-ray says and instead of accepting the responses he breaks them down to show the steps to come to the (right/wrong) conclusion. He numerously corrects Ray to stay on topic.

[@farthersaidin]

At the time of writing this, this video attracted 150k viewers. My hat goes off to you thunderf00t @CursedAbsol I imagine because, this debate was held because it encourages free inquiry and serves to educate, everything Thunderf00t seems to advocate

[@cemarz]

Ray takes a big old gulp when Thunderfoot mentions the creation of matter. You got to believe this guy was thinking, 'Oh no, does this guy actually understand the science of that? What happened to the "It is unknowns" from just minutes ago.'

[@Rayder4Life]

Thunderf00t : How do we apeared ? Ray : God created us. Thunderf00t : How do you know that ? Ray : Because It says so in the scripture. Thunderf00t : -.-

[@shortjma]

Thanks for the response. Either the universe 1. Always existed 2. Created itself or 3. Was created by something/someone outside of itself. You have to rule out #1 based on galactic motion, 2nd law of thermodynamics and radiation echo. All point to a start. Even Stephen Hawking agrees the universe had a beginning. Per my previous argument, #2 is not possible as “nothing” can not create “something.” (...continued)

[@jadub320]

Ray is trying to convert people using primary rationality. He would do so much better about 80 or so years ago.

[@yeshuasage3724]

last year i had a teacher in our school who would bombard us with those questions, what is conscience?, what is reality?, do numbers have an end? and it would drive us nuts!!!!!!

[@MrTaigyou]

@kswarner14 1. Atheistic theories don't break the laws of conservation. 2. Yes, it's apparently expanding, Yes It theoretically could have had a beginning - What makes you think it was a creator? -thunderf00ts already been through the whole 'i came across a thing in a desert' scenario. 3. Why do you think it would have to be living, it could have been a natural occurring event. 4. No we haven't and because of point 3, nothing has had to break the laws of point 1 either.

[@brpierce]

"Why do we perceive ourselves as being the highest form of Creation?" "If oxen and horses and lions had hands and were able to draw with their hands and do the same things as men, horses would draw the shapes of gods to look like horses and oxen would draw them to look like oxen, and each would make the gods bodies have the same shape as they themselves had." Read your Xenophanes; he answered your question 2500 years ago, give or take.

[@skulleeman]

Many of these comments are very negative towards Ray Comfort, but as an atheist I very much appreciate the fact that he has spared his time and allowed Thunderf00t to talk and participate in a rational discussion. For someone who has watched some of Thunderf00t's other videos with creationists / fundamentalist christians this was quite the breath of fresh air. I may disagree with Ray, but engaging in honest and open discussion is always a good thing.

[@thewhiteportugeuseisnotama9982]

If I was Thunderfoot I would not have given Ray Cumfort the time of day...

[@tmargette]

@Haizum74 Hi Haizum74, "Fooling myself" is not an option. I am happy to share documentation with you. I can try to explain it here, but it is off topic from the conversation fo the video. I only mentioned it, because Ray mentioned a little girl who was buried alived in Florida, and that is my one case, my one time my ability has actually been documented. To answer your questions, "Where you got it from?" I can only assume you are talking about my insight? Perhaps if not, please clarify.

[@VESANG]

I hope at least we can agree that Yngwie Malmsteen is a great absolute classic and one of the best ever classic rock composer and guitar player . Let's not waist time with the rest...we speak different languages. All the best to you !

[@TheRealDan0il]

The Skeptic's reaction face is worth a billion words. Like the facepalm, when words will not do, only a facial expression will be adequate.

[@BenjaminBattington]

It's ironic that the very people who tend to trumpet about how wonderful the order of creation and nature is are also the people who tend to know next to nothing about it.

[@MrAristotelianattic]

Thunderf00t - you are a subtle guy.. but I like your style. You kept your head on your shoulders and made sure the debate followed a logical path.

[@seanpeery7780]

Even with all Thunderf00ts literal stuttering, he still makes Ray look like a stuttering buffoon.

[@MarcusW8]

What I'd desire on these matters is of no relevance to actual reality nor world view. About your questions: 1. I don't indulge myself to having a desire on this matter since it's of no relevance to reality - only reality is. 2. I don't indulge myself to having a desire on this matter since it's of no relevance to reality - only reality is. 3. I can imagine a plethora of desirable futures, but to limit myself to a single one is unrealistic - as is not recognizing that it might not be so.

[@theguitarist1290]

I can't say I'm surprised, but Ray is so damn simplistic in his "reasoning" it's painful...

[@xthechar]

It's not a debate, it's a discussion.

[@AtheistAnonym]

Thunderf00t, your beautiful mind.... RAY: "Is America a stable society?" 'F00t: "It propagates, yes"

[@RedLionGenetics]

Bronze age : Skeptic - We dont know. Theist - God did it! Nowadays : Skeptic - Now we know the process. Theist - Now we know how God did it! Skeptic - ಠ_ಠ

[@oldwisetale]

this is how arguments should be dealt with civilized minds,calm behaviors,and overall open i cant say that both were or were not open BUT MY POINT IS! even if they dont agree with each other they have learned something from each other each on teaches one im glad that this conversation takes place now-a-days before people would just stab you for saying such thing were moving forward

[@finallight1061]

thunders face throughout this entire thing is extremely classic

[@TheDogn]

According to Comfort, God made the moisture that makes snow, the process that moisture goes through to make snow, AND the snow all simultaneously with and independently of each other. This means that no one thing is dependent upon another. God simply makes it appear that way forever. All so that we can exist in the form we exist in. It gives merit to the idea that god is behind the mechanics of the universe if you also say that the mechanics aren't necessary because he can sustain them himself, and does simultaneously... sort of... But one still has to ask, WHY! Also one always has to ask WHY, every time Comfort speaks.

[@isthisthingon9867]

A child would know... I contend that a child would ASK.

[@pieshka4509]

"You can't use an absolute statement like that, there is no evidence." As apposed to an absolute statement like this one specific god who happens to be in this one book created it all because it says so.

[@iisseth11]

I agree with you 100%. The only thing that i have to say about your comments is that you seem to be getting the words atheist and christian mixed up.

[@MrBenski81]

Yup, got to 1:46 of part 2 and have determined using logic that Ray is a fucking nutter. Period.