Thursday Boot Co Sneakers After One Wear For Two Hours

Wore these once for about two hours and this what they now look like. Wanted to let people know what to expect so they are not surprised as I was. Not enough after wear boot/shoe videos out there.
I expected some creasing just as all my leather shoes and boots have but not to this extent, more so the right shoe, the left is acceptable. I use cedar shoe trees in all of of my leather boots and shoes including these. This video is after they had shoe trees in them for four days after the one time wearing.
Contacted Thursday Boot Co. and this is what they said:
“Looking at the photos and the video, we can confirm that the creases on this pair are from normal wear and are not considered a quality issue. It is just a result of the leather bending where your foot naturally bends as you walk. If we take a look at the creasing pattern on these shoes, we can see that they are almost similar and were developed according to your own gait and how much room you have inside the shoe over the top of the foot.
It may help to note that creasing is something that will occur within the first few minutes of wear with leather shoes and since the Old English is more of a softer material, they will appear naturally regardless of the number of times they were worn. Overall, it's part of the wear of this specific leather but in no way should it affect the durability of the pair.”

[@tommyangelo3889]

Did u apply leather conditioner?

[@luisalejandrohernandez8784]

Same happened to me with the white ones. Some people will say is normal but I personally don't like to have that much creases on a sneaker. I also own a few pairs of their boots I really like them but for sneakers I think talk will be mi first and last pair.

[@jegtugado3743]

They still look good even with the creases. I think that's part of the charm of leather. Can't say all leather behaves the same since there are so many types and not all are made equal.

[@mjf70]

You want to buy them?

[@jegtugado3743]

@@mjf70 already have the cacao. It's not creasing as much as this one though

[@Hi-pt2nq]

@@mjf70 how much and what's the size?

[@mjf70]

@@Hi-pt2nq Don’t have them anymore. Sorry.

[@ervinfinney1039]

Did Thursday Boot resolve the issue?

[@yevgenshatalov]

We don't have Thursday in this part of the world, but yesterday I tried some locally made brown leather sneakers, with a leather type and overall style very similar to yours (feels like a bit oily/impregnated/semi-shiny soft leather, rather than painted). As I wore them in the store they got a few creases straight away just like yours did, like not wavy-creases, but little crack-type of creases (the interesting thing is that this company's black and white sneakers don't crease this way). It reminded me cardboard paper creases, rather than leather creases (do you know what I mean?) I then looked at the sample model in the store and it was creased as well. I then googled the issue and saw your video. I think this type of "cardboard-paper" type of creasing is due to the leather quality and particularly of the brown type of leather. The sneakers I've been trying looked very similar to Thursday, so I guess they might be using very similar leather. And while creases on leather shoes usually contribute to their character, I don't think these "cardboard-type" of creases are acceptable for the sneakers that you want to wear business-casually. It's interesting what's your opinion on the problem.

[@mjf70]

I definitely think it is due to the type and quality of the leather. I got a different pair in Horween rough out leather that are not creasing at all, just some rolling, almost like what shell cordovan does. I also have some boots that I stripped in an attempt to antique. The stripping dried them out a lot and even though I reconditioned, that dryness lead to the cardboard cracks/creased as you referred to them. So that tells me the same thing happening in the sneakers might be due to leather not impregnated with oils very well or dried out sitting in a hot warehouse. But I’m no expert. I can say that my two pairs of Allen Edmonds dress shoes, one pair of loafers, and two pair of dress boots don’t crack/crease like the sneakers did.

[@Werewolf0216]

I just ordered high tops in Old English -- I think I'll return them...that is way too much creasing and seems the finish cracks off too

[@heathspears8881]

Leather does this bro … it’s beautiful

[@mjf70]

Okay bro. Not my first experience with leather.

[@TopMale]

Rock on buddy. That's what they are for.., wearing. Just keep them clean and you're good!

[@gatriemacleinn1976]

i had the same experience with my thursday captains. one wear and the suddenly looked 3 years old

[@ohmyrufiohhh1303]

mine wasn’t that bad but man it was still pretty badly creased after the first wear. I also have one of their Chelsea’s and it creased pretty much like that after one wear. I think it’s just their leather in general.

[@ruiabreu1]

Hey thanks for the video. I got a pair of these in the Cacao colour way used for several weeks and it’s not looking anything like your pair. Mine looks wavy rather then cracked creases so far. Maybe add some cream conditioner to your shoes to help it looking worse. Oh and don’t wear them with white socks. They will get very stained from the dye inside the show. My socks has literally turned brown. Also a pair of shoe trees could help. I’m not convinced that’s how they should look with so little use. I’m sure Thursday will take them back. I would expect that look after 6 months of use. Not hours. Thursday please take note guys.

[@mjf70]

I have many leather shoes and boots. I use saphir and Venetian shoe cream and I use shoe trees.

[@mjf70]

Good to know about the Cacao ones since I was going to get those. How do you like them overall? Is the tongue just leather (no padding) like they were previously? Same thicker leather? They were out of stock for so long that I’m wondering if the new stock is the same as the old stock for which I watched the Rose Anvil review.

[@ruiabreu1]

@@mjf70 I totally love these shoes and the smell. The tongue has no padding. Actually the tongue is my favourite bit of the shoe cause how it shapes and moulds itself. I got sucked in from his video review. And the leather laces is a perfect combo. If only I could send you a pic of my shoes.

[@ruiabreu1]

Leather is very thick and takes time to break in. There are no layers, but it’s very stiff and not the easiest shoe to put on or off. Leather laces don’t help but aside that I totally love these, and fills my room with that leather smell. I love them so much I decided to order a pair of captains in brandy. But waiting ages for shipping to the Uk. Can’t wait to experience them soon

[@mjf70]

@@ruiabreu1 Thanks. It is a very cool and different leather to do sneakers in. Credit to TBC for their design.

[@SunnyGoklani9]

I bought my first pair of thro classic boots. I just tried walking in my apartment to try them and I see significant creases. Hardly couple minutes of wear :/ I was really excited about this one as literally everyone raves about it - but $200 is lot for me to literally feel like it’s used on my first wear. Wondering if I should return or exchange. Don’t want to go through the hassle of exchanging if that’s just how Thursday boots go :/

[@mjf70]

You won’t be able to return or exchange if they show the signs of wear you say they do. You’ll have to contact them and they will tell you it’s normal. It’s possible the boots are too big for you. The extra space in the toe box creates more creasing. I have had two pairs of Captains and my wife has a pair as well, and none have creased in any way I found extreme. Leather does crease. It gives it some character. My issue was with a sneaker marketed as an elevated sneaker you could dress up, the way they looked after that first brief wear precluded that. Do you mind me asking which boots and in what leather you bought?

[@SunnyGoklani9]

Oh I see - if they say it's normal and I can't return - I wouldn't know what to do with them - hopefully won't get stuck with a $200 item I'm not happy with! Sizing: its tough to get in - but once I'm in - there's some space, but not enough to size down. I ordered the Captain boot.@@mjf70

[@hughanderson7285]

Looks like leather.

[@charliemcdougall]

With patina. Bonus!

[@dmick9168]

I think that over time the creases somewhat add character, my Natural color of this shoe has creases but it kinda looks normal now. I do use shoe trees all the time though to help maintain correct shape.

[@mjf70]

I expect some creasing with any leather shoe. It was the way they creased at the end of the toe on the right shoe that was most an issue for me. Made it look like there is a bubble at the toe. Your natural is Horween Chromexcel, which is notoriously creasy. So you kind of have to expect that if your buying shoes made from that leather. But it’s a famous beautiful leather that will patina nicely over time. It’s also more often used on boots and so sneakers in this leather would be more in the rugged category meaning creasing detracts less from them. Hence TBC put them in the Heritage collection. Glad you like them.

[@mjf70]

TBC was nice enough to set up a call with me to discuss my sneakers. They contend this is normal and I understand that is their perspective. They were also nice enough to offer me a solution to make me happy and I appreciate that.

[@polanialmoni6274]

So is this normal for a leather sneakers? Or you recommend another brand?

[@mjf70]

@@polanialmoni6274 They told me it was normal. My description includes exactly what their email said. But Kyle Mas who did a review of the exact same sneaker said his did not crease as much. So it’s hard to say what to expect. As for another brand it just depends on how much you want to spend. Beckett and Simonon has one for about $160 but you have to wait weeks for it because they are made to order. I hear good things about Koio but they are $270. The Stridewise guy and Rose Anvil both have good videos up about sneaker comparisons.

[@Thursdayboots]

Hey Michael! I'm glad that our team was able to help. Please don't hesitate to contact us again directly if you have any questions or concerns! Best, Team Thursday

[@mjf70]

@@Thursdayboots Appreciate it. I think it would be good for you guys to comment directly on the video and explain to folks why this constitutes normal wear so they better understand. As I said to you all directly, it’s your company and your product so you get to make the determination on what constitutes normal wear and I accept that. And folks can decide if they agree. But I think more information about why would be helpful to set expectations where they should be.

[@simba720]

The fact that thursday boot company replies to that shows they really care. I really wanted to buy a sneaker but to have a sneaker to look like this after 2 hours is kind of crazy lol..I understand it's a new product and I'm sure TBC is coming up with solutions for the next sneaker collection....I cant wait

[@tonythaiger85]

Did you decide to keep or exchange them?

[@DJRicardoHenriquez]

I just got a pair in coffee and they creased like crazy immediately after putting them on. I reached out and am awaiting a response that I anticipate will be similar to yours. May I ask what was the resolution you got?

[@mjf70]

Yep, they’re going to tell you it’s normal and adds to the character of the shoes. To some extent, they’re right. All leather shoes crease to some extent, even the finest bespoke leather shoes will crease. The extent to which they crease depends on several factors including fit. Everyone’s foot is different. Quality of leather matters too. And this is where I think Thursday falls short. I’m pretty sure they’re not getting first pick of leather from the producers providing them. That reduces cost. That’s still fine given their price point. Except that they market as if you’re getting some crazy deal on shoes that could cost you 2-3 times as much. In reality, they’re worth about what your paying. They’re relying on their customer base being what it mostly is, people who don’t really know a lot about high quality boots and shoes, and likely for whom $200 is pricey but doable, while true high quality shoes or boots are closer to $400 and go up and up to Edward Green territory of $1,700. See the commenters saying “bro” and “homies?” That’s Thursday’s typical clientele. Lol I’d try to get them to allow you to exchange. Remind them these are supposed to be elevated sneakers that can be dressed up or down. If you look at mine, no way those could have been dressed up business casual. But understand that if you exchange for another pair, you’ll likely end up with the same result. So I’d exchange for one of the heritage leathers and accept you’ll only be able to wear them casually. I wear my cacao ones as an alternative to boots. Don’t bother to write a bad review on their website. They won’t post it. I did an honest four star review of the racer jacket I purchased, indicating that it appears they were able to use a higher quality leather because they were saving money by using snaps instead of zippers at the cuffs, welt hand pockets instead of zipper pockets, and no breast pocket, which is standard fair for a racer jacket. I actually like the simpler aesthetic and said as much. They didn’t post it. When I called them on it, I got a bunch of excuses about taking time to review it before they could post. But I kept looking and it never posted. I’m pretty much done with Thursday. I gave them one more try when I bought some natural captains for my wife. One of the boots has a lot of loose grain. She didn’t care so we just kept them. All that said, I’m happy enough with my captains in canyon. Wife and I both took them to Iceland recently and wore them for walking around town and light trail walking. They were perfect for that. I buy mostly from Allen Edmonds. But they too have some QC issues at times. Free shipping and returns means it doesn’t cost you but it’s still a pain. However, you also have to understand that boots and shoes made by hand (on machines) are never going to be completely perfect and minor imperfections do add to the character if they’re not actual flaws. FYI, Allen Edmonds currently has a 40% off sale going so you can get better quality boots and shoes for only slightly more than Thursday. Best of luck.

[@DJRicardoHenriquez]

@@mjf70 man you are on the same boat as me! I actually posted on Thursday Reddit about it and many said it was normal. I own some high end shoes in the 1k territory and am actually going to order some bespoke shoes soon. I am a leathercrafter so am very familiar with leather and it’s imperfections. You are spot on with their customer base. My work boots Always cost more than 300.00 and a pair of dress up shoes no less than $300.00. I also like Allen Edmonds and own a pair of beautiful Lombard Chelsea’s. Funny thing is I actually mentioned in my post on Reddit that I should’ve just busted out the 60.00 more for the AE sneaker. I too fell for the your getting shoes worth 2-3x more. Too bad because I really like the sneaker. I think I’m going to order a pair from Michael Darren. He makes some beautiful custom patinas on sneakers and they are made to order from Italy. Thanks so much for your response and I will update this comment after I get a resolution.

[@mjf70]

@@DJRicardoHenriquez Normal is a subjective term. And all creasing is not the same. I love those Lombards. Unfortunately they are out of my size. Love brogues. I have Daltons (full brogue), Strands (half brogue), and Boulevards (quarter brogue). I’m not typically a Chelsea boots guy but some of the more robust versions are appealing, like Trickers (brogue) Silvia Country Dealer in cafe suede. Nice. Too bad AE doesn’t make the Sullivan Street boots anymore. Not brogues but dressy country boots and a very respectable Edward Green Galway alternative. I have a black pair I dress up with a gray herringbone flannel suit. Wish I’d also purchased a brown pair when available. And who doesn’t love the C&J Islay boots. Just about a perfect country boot. Hope it works out for you. I think my video helped a little with my bargaining position. I sent them a link in my email when I contacted them. Like I said before, if they’ll exchange, go for one of the heritage leathers from Horween. Will work well with jeans or cords. Look elsewhere for elevated sneakers. I previously read good things about the Koio Capri, which comes in multitudes of leathers and is currently on sale.

[@DJRicardoHenriquez]

@@mjf70 right on my man. We have similar tastes.

[@mjf70]

@@DJRicardoHenriquez Always nice to meet a fellow addict. Lol. Happy Holidays.

[@johntesoriero3382]

Are the creases noticeable from standing up?

[@11UncleBooker22]

NEVER microwave your Thursday Sneakers before wearing them out on a hike.

[@oceansoflorewi]

Right lol. I'm a little suspect on what he did with these for two hours for them to look that bad- run a marathon? These are casual out to the bar shoes. Should only be worn the way a woman wears heels- women don't run treadmills on heels.

[@nomorefries3616]

I saw the after 3 months video first then only the unboxing. To be honest, i thought the creases looks amazing and makes me want to get it more. I couldnt understand why you didnt like it at first, then i saw the unboxing, and saw how much it look like a shinny classy dress shoe, that i wondered if you subconsciously expected the sneaker to look like a dress shoe? When you press the leather on the unboxing video, i could see how soft it was, which would make it so comfortable, but at the expense of creasing easily. I would totally get the old english leather, not sure what type it was but looks to me like oil pulled leather, whereby the leather gets distressed easily but forms beautiful creases and the creases will be lighter in color.

[@mjf70]

Appreciate what you are saying. My expectation was an upscale sneaker based on their marketing. Not Common Projects quality of course but not this level of distress after one wear. If I want a dress shoe, have plenty of higher quality Allen Edmonds to chose from. Ultimately I decided to go with one of the heritage leathers and treat them as a boot alternative so that the distress is more welcome. And those don’t look nearly as distressed after multiple wears. And then acquired some brown suede loafers to fill the place of the OE sneakers. All leather shoes crease. I know that. It was the manner in which these did, particularly one of them, which creased near the end of the toe making it look like a bubble there. Never had any shoe do that before. Cheers.

[@Spectt84]

worn leather > new leather

[@mjf70]

That's a bit simplistic. But yes, one of the best aspects of a leather shoe is how it ages and conforms to the wearer. When it's good leather. Which was what this post was all about. So maybe Edward Green > Timberland would be a better comment.

[@pandans]

If that is true I m gonna get 2 pairs.

[@plainsman]

They're S N E A K E R S, not dress shoes. Expecting them to react to wear like a dress shoe is preposterous.

[@mjf70]

Thanks for the all caps. Really emphasizes you have no idea what your talking about.

[@mjf70]

And actually, they are premier sneakers, according to Thursday. They are supposed to be in the category of luxury sneakers, the kind people today are wearing more dressed up. Accordingly, they should then wear a little more like dress shoes, even if not the same. They certainly shouldn't look like that after two hours of plain walking.

[@artecuartico]

They call it character.

[@DarkHorse08]

Dude, looks like real leather to me. Go look at some very expensive leather couches; they will look the same.

[@mjf70]

Dude, okay. Thanks so much for educating me. I didn’t know a thing about leather until you came along.

[@DarkHorse08]

@@mjf70 No problem. You’re have been enlightened and educated.

[@mjf70]

@@DarkHorse08 yep. I count on complete strangers on KZbin who know nothing about me or my knowledge base to enlighten me. I mean, “Go look at some expensive couches,” you just can’t get that kind of brilliant insight anywhere else.

[@DarkHorse08]

@@mjf70 Yep. I’m a genius. You can count on me. You’re welcome.

[@fullmetalroyal1216]

That creasing is normal bro, if you know how the material leather works then you would know there is nothing wrong with these

[@mjf70]

Ok bro. Explain to me how the material leather works. I’ve never known how the material leather works. And I’d really love to know how the material leather works because I’ve always wanted to know how the material leather works. Thanks so much.

[@didamnesia3575]

@@mjf70 most youtubers know to ignore comments they don't like

[@pooolish334]

​@mjf70 Well I don't know how it works either. All I know is that if you bend leather strong enough, like wearing them as shoes for example, when you bend your foot the leather will crease. But that is just my two cents on the matter for all I know. But if you would like to know more then I guess people call that patina or the leather molding to the shape of your feet as you walk in them (the *break* in period). But hey what do I know right? I'm just a random guy in the internet.

[@mjf70]

@@didamnesia3575I’m quite happy not to be most KZbinrs. Maybe most KZbinrs should learn not to comment when they have nothing of value to say. Just a thought.

[@mjf70]

@@pooolish334Yep, leather will crease when worn. Over time. This was after one wear for two hours, not even walking that much. Creasing is not patina. Shoes don’t mound to your foot by creasing. Creasing is not the break in period. But what do I know. I’m just some random guy on the internet who obsessively reads and watches videos about quality leather footwear.

[@m.m.4523]

Use cedar wood shoe trees. Duh...I have the black ones with the white soles and I've worn them several times and they still look brand new with no wrinkles or crease on them plus I use real wood shoe trees.

[@mjf70]

I use cedar shoes trees in all my leather shoes including six pairs of Allen Edmonds shoes. Very presumptuous comment. Typical moron.

[@pooolish334]

Did you play basketball in these?

[@mjf70]

Absolutely. And rugby. Then I went fishing in a river wearing them. After that, I climbed Everest in them and soon after did a walk over hot coals. Then I stuffed them with birdseed and left them outside for a few months. Why?

[@pooolish334]

@mjf70 Oh, then that explains the creasing on them. They held up extremely well after that hell of an adventure, don't you think?

[@Waltwizzle]

If you don't like the creases buy some pleather sketchers

[@mjf70]

Okay Walt, great advice. 🙄

[@jiroyamada7983]

Voice over descriptions would be far more useful than text-only descriptions.

[@mjf70]

Because reading is hard? SMH

[@jiroyamada7983]

@@mjf70 Adds production value. Give viewers reason to watch your videos. Especially if you care about building your base.

[@mjf70]

@@jiroyamada7983 Yeah, I don’t care about that. I’m not that self-absorbed. Plus I don’t really want to read the email the company sent me.

[@erwindaveg1]

For just a short matter of time the outcome seems years of wear and tear😩

[@kenisgone]

get cordovan then.

[@mjf70]

I’ll run right out and pick some up. Useful comment. 🙄

[@ruiabreu1]

Also like with the captain boots Thursday has posted pics on their website showing the rugged used finish. Perhaps they should have done the same with the sneaker line. These sneakers are meant to look minimal and clean. Not rugged. At least that’s how they seem to promote it from my point of view. 😳

[@mjf70]

I agree. Although the heritage versions are more rugged with leathers typically used on boots and leather laces. They told me the Old English were also meant to look rugged but then they should include them in the heritage collection. I’m not sure if trust much of what they show on their website or the reviews. They use a lot of filters on the product photos. I got the racer jacket in Tobacco and it does not have as much of that rust tone as in the photos. I also posted an honest review about it and they never posted it despite is still being a four star review. I guess because I talked about both the good and the bad. So it appears they select which reviews they post on their website.

[@ruiabreu1]

@@mjf70 you know what I really think cause the old English leather does look so minimal and doesn’t have that rugged rough look the creases stick out badly. Bottom line is get rugged shoes that look well with creases. I don’t think ur colour works well with creases. Same as a white sneaker. They look great but soon as they crease they don’t look great.

[@mjf70]

@@ruiabreu1 I agree. For me, the Old English is the most dressy of them because of the brown sole, brown leather combo, like a dress shoe. So really bad creasing detracts from that look. Whereas the Cacao is probably the least dressy because of the waxed flesh leather, which is typically a rugged boot leather. So creasing and scuffs just add to the character.

[@ruiabreu1]

@@mjf70 I could be wrong. I’m no expert but I wouldn’t say it’s a waxed finish. More rough like feeling like extra fine sand paper in a good way . There is no nap whatsoever. It’s smooth on the inside but rough texture on the outside. It’s not patterned but seems naturally rough

[@mjf70]

@@ruiabreu1 It is in fact waxed flesh from Horween. It’s the flesh side of the hide like suede then waxed to matte down the nap. Eventually, the nap will show as the wax wear away. www.horween.com/blog/2009/12/09/the-leather-that-has-3-names

[@ReginaldGregory-q5c]

This so cap

[@whereRbearsTeeth]

I think it’s funny that you paid $130 for shoes and you’re complaining about the quality of the leather. You get what you pay for, and you aren’t getting quality for 100 bucks. You seem kinda clueless.

[@mjf70]

Okay player. 😂

[@whereRbearsTeeth]

@@mjf70 The kind of person that refers to someone else as “player” is the exact type of demographic Thursday is targeting. Their product is junk, but they clearly are succeeding with their marketing.

[@mjf70]

@@whereRbearsTeeth That you’re actually serious. 😂

[@whereRbearsTeeth]

@@mjf70Try communicating in complete sentences. Your response makes no sense. Then again, I wouldn’t expect proper grammar from someone on your level.

[@mjf70]

Up early to get all the important stuff done I see. What level is that? Can’t wait for your reply.

[@joedennehy386]

They look like you doent 2 hours playing rugby in them. Crap leather crap quality

[@mjf70]

Yeah. They like to say their boots are made along side more expensive boots/shoes at the same facilities. That’s like saying a Ford Focus and BMW made by the same people are the same quality. It doesn’t matter who made it if the components going into it are inferior.