London Postcodes Are Genius, Here’s Why!

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Tom the Taxi Driver

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@TomtheTaxiDriver
@TomtheTaxiDriver Жыл бұрын
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@anonymouse740
@anonymouse740 Жыл бұрын
I didn't realise postcodes were assigned alphabetically, it suddenly makes complete sense. I used to know pretty much every postcode are by heart because I worked as an Addison Lee dispatcher and after a while you just memorise them all.
@kevinsmoother
@kevinsmoother Жыл бұрын
I thought it was distance from Central London lol
@xolotlnephthys
@xolotlnephthys Жыл бұрын
It's not very common outside of London though. Lots of numbers are skipped, and independent areas within a larger postal district are grouped together numerically. Eg in the NG code, areas in Nottinghamshire are numbered 1-25, but areas in Lincolnshire are 31-34. And in Nottinghamshire these are done geographically from the centre, with every code bordering the number before and after them
@MrDannyDetail
@MrDannyDetail Жыл бұрын
Outside of London you're more likely to have 1 at the centre of the postcode region (so SW or N or whatever is the region) then 2 through to some number in a clockwise circle starting north of the centre and working around, and in some cases a second circle outside of that. Most postcodes outside of London and Sheffield were set up in th 1970s and because areas that were rural and sparsely populated back then have since been built on most postcode regions have a few newer codes with non-consecutive numbers that have been patched onto the original system, either by taking territory away from the existing sectors (the first half of a code e.g. SWI is a sector), or by allowing a single geographic sector to have use of two, or even three, different numbers to double, or even triple, the codes available.
@thatmarchingarrow
@thatmarchingarrow Жыл бұрын
​​@@kevinsmootherThat's how in works in some areas but not all. Manchester post codes for instance do work like that (at least I think they do), but not London post codes.
@carlcassidy185
@carlcassidy185 Жыл бұрын
​@thatcammarc pretty much, yes. Single digits are city centre or Salford, then you can follow the rest in a circle around the city. Until you get the outlying boroughs, they get random numbered postcodes as they joined the GM authority, so not necessarily an order to them. For example, M23 Wythenshawe area is next to M33 Sale area or M46 Atherton is next to M29 Worsley
@stuartslyper1479
@stuartslyper1479 Жыл бұрын
London’s postcode system is absolutely brilliant. I’ve lived in four different countries but have never experienced anything that comes close to rivalling London’s postcode system.
@moladiver6817
@moladiver6817 Жыл бұрын
The Dutch postcode system is pretty clever too. Just a postcode and a house number is enough to retrieve the entire address. Works nationally. Online address forms often only allow you to type in a postcode and a house number and then the form fills in the rest. As a return address I usually only put postcode hyphen house number on the back of the envelope.
@Kirbymr
@Kirbymr Жыл бұрын
​@moladiver6817 that applies to most addresses throughout the UK too. Rarely type out my address, simply a postcode and building number and the rest is automatically filled out
@quackcement
@quackcement Жыл бұрын
planning a trip to Australia and its a nightmare, have to manually type region and street every time, the stupid thing is they have an area number but its only 4 numbers long, so, you have to type in region and street address. sorta defeats the point of having an area number in the first place.
@eddiefara
@eddiefara Жыл бұрын
londoner for 26 years and always had stacks of questions about postcodes stored in my brain, all now answered! fantastic as always tom!
@invisiblemaninvisibleman2097
@invisiblemaninvisibleman2097 Жыл бұрын
Ur not a real Londoner mate
@Sw1a1aa
@Sw1a1aa Жыл бұрын
Lewisham is SE13 & Catford is SE6 not 4 which is Brockley & Crofton Park . Another quirky one is that the American embassy and surrounding area is SW11 it used to be SW8 but it changed maybe SW11 is a bit posher . Where that embassy is behind it was the main distribution Center for SW London to Royal Mail sold the land. Regards ex postie & cabbie
@davidcunnington8316
@davidcunnington8316 Жыл бұрын
So sorry, I knew Lewisham is SE13, I meant to say SE13 and my brain didn’t tell my mouth that so I said SW13, then said it again! I like Lewisham and spent days cycling every road of it whilst on the Knowledge. Always happy to take a far there in the cab.
@CJT80
@CJT80 Жыл бұрын
I was about to say the same. Lewisham is next to Blackheath (SE2) which is deemed quite ‘posh’. Whilst I lived there a new housing development was being built and was marketed as being in Blackheath. Sadly for its residents it has an SE13 postcode!
@Sw1a1aa
@Sw1a1aa Жыл бұрын
@@CJT80 sorry to correct you 😆, blackHeath is se3 & Abbey Wood is se2 it’s all in alaphabetical order , I know what you mean . Was you talking about the old ferrier estate in Kidbrooke. That shithole had to be pulled down .
@leewoods4605
@leewoods4605 Жыл бұрын
Him saying SW13 for Lewisham made me come here 😂. I lived in Brockley and knew Lewisham was an SE postcode.. no wonder my mail keeps going missing 😂😂
@DirtyBlack997
@DirtyBlack997 Жыл бұрын
@@Sw1a1aa I doubt they mean the Ferrier as that is/was SE3 and has Blackheath Park Se3 between it and the SE13 postcode. I lived on the Ferrier and what it needed was social investment rather than being knocked down and the land sold to property investors so they can make huge profits.
@tobyskinner94
@tobyskinner94 Жыл бұрын
Imagine telling a taxi driver giving a postcode and they knew exactly where to go.
@Coolcarting
@Coolcarting Жыл бұрын
They wouldn't.
@Sw1a1aa
@Sw1a1aa Жыл бұрын
Not the full code just like se5 or sw6 . As a taxi driver you have a matter of seconds to start the journey. You won’t see many looking up an a to z or google maps . That map of London is implanted in yer head . You start off going to the correct direction and start filtering out the best route . The killer one is a customer going on a journey across the whole of London and your 1 road away and they say it’s the next left / right driver . Do you think I got all the way here by luck. 😂😂😂
@philkaw
@philkaw Жыл бұрын
That's exactly what happened today.
@MrDannyDetail
@MrDannyDetail Жыл бұрын
@@Sw1a1aa I want to assume they are just trying to be helpful by giving you the fine tuning at the very end of the journey, and that they aren't actually thinking that you didn't have any idea where to go the rest of the time. I'm not in London mysefl but nonetheless my point here still stands if I say that most (but not all) delivery drivers and tax drivers can easily find my street, but only a suprisingly small percentage can find my exact apartment block (out of a choice of 12 in the street), and even less can see where the slightly concealed front door to the block is to know that that would be a good place to actually come to stop and let me out, so I'd definitely think I was helping my taxi driver by guiding them once we could see my street.
@hb1338
@hb1338 Жыл бұрын
Do you get to learn places by postcodes or street names ?
@SaffyMirza
@SaffyMirza Жыл бұрын
Surprised you guys missed this SW13 is Barnes, Lewisham is SE13
@davidcunnington8316
@davidcunnington8316 Жыл бұрын
So sorry, I knew Lewisham is SE13, I meant to say SE13 and my brain didn’t tell my mouth that so I said SW13, then said it again! I like Lewisham and spent days cycling every road of it whilst on the Knowledge. Always happy to take a far there in the cab.
@MikusMusik
@MikusMusik Жыл бұрын
@@davidcunnington8316 Good recovery, any slagging off of Lewisham could have let to civil war
@kanedaku
@kanedaku Жыл бұрын
@@davidcunnington8316 Great interviewee; I've subbed in case one day you do any 'Tales from a Retired Postman' videos 😆
@ashleycrane415
@ashleycrane415 Жыл бұрын
Just for clarification Lewisham is SE13 not SW13. SW13 is Barnes and that's a ball ache away on the south circular. Postcodes are indeed alphabetical however there are variations. E2 to E15 are in order and it starts again at E16 for Canning Town. That used to be in the NE area before it was given to Newcastle. NW starts again at NW9 for Colindale. N starts over at N19 for Archway. SW is a warm up exercise for SE. SW2,4,8 and 9 are all south of the river. SW1,3,5,6,7 & 10 are north. You then start again at SW11 for Battersea and never need to cross a bridge. W has no complications. W2 is Bayswater and W14 is West Kensington. Easy. SE, forget it. They were drunk by this point. There are 28 districts without any semblance of order at all. SE8 is Deptford, SE17 is Elephant & Castle and SE21 is Dulwich.
@willmill82
@willmill82 Жыл бұрын
SE Postcodes are largely in alphabetical order, but the names that they use may not reflect those commonly used today. SE2 (Abbey Wood) to SE18 (Woolwich) run in order - SE17 you mention covers E&C but the post town is Walworth. SE19 - Upper Norwood - appears to be an anomaly, but then you've got SE20 (Anerley, not Penge for the sake of ordering), SE21 (Dulwich), SE22 (East Dulwich), 23 (Forest Hill), 24 (Herne Hill), 25 (S Norwood) 26 (Sydenham) and 27 (W Norwood) completing another alphabetical run. SE28 was given to Thamesmead presumably as it's the newest SE district.
@airdrawn
@airdrawn 8 ай бұрын
Lived in Lewisham for 5 years and can definitely vouch that it is indeed SE13 😂
@Shads5
@Shads5 Жыл бұрын
That fish & chip shop in Newington Green at 2:20 was bought by my grandad after WW2. My mother and Aunt along with my grandparents lived above it.
@manuel_winde
@manuel_winde Жыл бұрын
It’s still not bad, nice chips that taste like chip shop chips used to 👍🏼
@geirmyrvagnes8718
@geirmyrvagnes8718 Жыл бұрын
This makes a surprising amount of sense. I have noticed the codes everywhere in London but never thought I could be bothered to memorize them, since I am there rarely and as a tourist. Most places in the world don't put post codes on road signs, so I didn't even know that is what they are. But if I am anywhere a tourist is likely to go after watching this video, I can orient myself roughly by the first letters on the nearest sign. Nice.
@markiliff
@markiliff Жыл бұрын
"Most places in the world don't put post codes on road signs" Well, now you mention it… Great point!
@robs720
@robs720 Жыл бұрын
Lil faux pas with Lewisham, its definitely SE13 not SW13 ;) great vid tho
@TomtheTaxiDriver
@TomtheTaxiDriver Жыл бұрын
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@robtyman4281
@robtyman4281 Жыл бұрын
SW13 is Barnes
@davidcunnington8316
@davidcunnington8316 Жыл бұрын
I knew it was SE, meant to say SE and it came out as S!
@davidcunnington8316
@davidcunnington8316 Жыл бұрын
So sorry, I knew Lewisham is SE13, I meant to say SE13 and my brain didn’t tell my mouth that so I said SW13, then said it again! I like Lewisham and spent days cycling every road of it whilst on the Knowledge. Always happy to take a far there in the cab.
@michaellennon873
@michaellennon873 Жыл бұрын
I used to live in Lee, SE12 so knew Lewisham was wrong straight away.
@SpiritmanProductions
@SpiritmanProductions Жыл бұрын
Ah, that explains why N5 is slap-bang next to N7. Alphabetically: Highbury → Highgate → Holloway.
@markpunt9638
@markpunt9638 Жыл бұрын
Those early, so-called postcodes are actually postal districts. Postcode proper introduced in about the late 1960s early 1970s
@xstoph
@xstoph Жыл бұрын
Very interesting video. Often wondered how Blackheath's postcode is SE3 and Lewisham's is SE13 (not SW13 like it says in this video lol) when they are right next to each other. Thanks for making it. (BTW, There's only one L in Fulham 🙂)
@letmejustsay
@letmejustsay Жыл бұрын
Dave seems like a lovely guy and incredibly knowledgeable.
@alexdavis5766
@alexdavis5766 Жыл бұрын
Great video, very interesting. Would you ever be up for doing a video with me for my channel all about how wheelchairs users get on/ off and use London taxis? I know a lot of wheelchair users, especially those visiting, are so unsure of what to expect, they don’t use them. My channel (not this one, this my personal one) aims to show other wheelies how accessible places are and what to expect. Would help a lot of people out 😊
@Laser2120
@Laser2120 Жыл бұрын
Sounds like it would make a interesting video ! I hope he see's it
@id70b40
@id70b40 Жыл бұрын
Pre GPS back in the mid 1990s I was a service engineer in the south east of England…mainly PO, RH, BN & TN postcodes…. If I didn’t have a map book of the area I was visiting, I could figure out roughly where I needed to go based on the post code
@TurboTimsWorld
@TurboTimsWorld Жыл бұрын
You want to live on a farm in Devon 1 post code covers 4 farms about 15 houses over a 3 miles radius, Amazon can get it right first time, the smart meter fitter took 4times before he gave up and all he had to do was follow the power lines ! LOL
@hb1338
@hb1338 Жыл бұрын
Most Amazon drivers struggle to find my house - every single DPD driver has got it right first time. Pay peanuts and get monkeys.
@silversurfertraveller
@silversurfertraveller Жыл бұрын
In all my 60 odd years of living, this is the first time I have found out that the post code is alphabetical.
@CallieMasters5000
@CallieMasters5000 Жыл бұрын
In comparison, the American equivalent - the Zip Code - wasn't introduced until 1963, over a hundred years after London! They start low numbers on the east coast and go higher in western states.
@nope2dat
@nope2dat Жыл бұрын
As a brit zip codes seem totally infeasible to me. Only 5 digits and no letters mean only 90,000 possible combinations or 90,000 individual codes. For a country with over 300 million people and so much territory. There must be so many addresses per each code and so much sorting each post office has to do even after the zip to get a manageable round for each postman
@Coolcarting
@Coolcarting Жыл бұрын
@@nope2dat Zip codes cover a much larger area. There are only 41,704 ZIP Codes in the US, so pleanty more to go around.
@hb1338
@hb1338 Жыл бұрын
@@nope2dat Actually, full zip codes are 9 digits, 5 digits outbound like the first half of the UK code and 4 digits inbound like the second half of the UK code. Most people only bother to state the first digits.
@Vickix1185
@Vickix1185 Жыл бұрын
This is fascinating! Gonna be nosey at the street signs next time I’m in London! I’m in the Midlands and my mind was blown when a customer on the phones at work explained the postcode compass - he wasn’t keen on visiting a NW postcode from his SE one and explained it to me!
@Leapylee-l6c
@Leapylee-l6c Жыл бұрын
i was an N5 boy growing up! lovely to see a reminder. lovely work Tom. greetings from Barbados
@harryliddle8753
@harryliddle8753 Жыл бұрын
I’m from Lewisham and Dave saying its postcode is SW13 hurt me 🤣
@davidcunnington8316
@davidcunnington8316 Жыл бұрын
So sorry, I knew it but didn’t concentrate
@davidcunnington8316
@davidcunnington8316 Жыл бұрын
So sorry, I knew Lewisham is SE13, I meant to say SE13 and my brain didn’t tell my mouth that so I said SW13, then said it again! I like Lewisham and spent days cycling every road of it whilst on the Knowledge. Always happy to take a far there in the cab.
@harryliddle8753
@harryliddle8753 Жыл бұрын
@@davidcunnington8316 It's fine, no need to apologise! These things happen - Tom didn't do you any favours by leaving it in the video lol
@DavidCunnington-j8u
@DavidCunnington-j8u Жыл бұрын
Once it was released and we got the replies, we thought about editing it out, but left it in. Generates interest! I saw a draft of the video and missed it and the Brockley/Catford one, kicking myself now😂
@grahammathieson4023
@grahammathieson4023 Жыл бұрын
Dave confirms to me that I have a Brain like a sieve .
@oliverstemp9132
@oliverstemp9132 Жыл бұрын
Great editing in this video
@oneteaminbristolbcfc
@oneteaminbristolbcfc Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this I really enjoyed this! The guy you had on was brilliant can you thank him for all his knowledgeable information.
@TomtheTaxiDriver
@TomtheTaxiDriver Жыл бұрын
Thanks! I want to tap into more wealth of knowledge from cabbies! We all have our unique experiences we bring to the job!
@shaamrayman4857
@shaamrayman4857 Жыл бұрын
Lewisham is SE13 Not SW13
@tonyclifton265
@tonyclifton265 Жыл бұрын
wow. and i used to think postcodes were just needless bullshit!
@haltendehand1
@haltendehand1 Жыл бұрын
Been told that Ilford is 'IG' as it is short for 'Ilford and Gants Hill' - which matches the actual geographical area, so makes sense. I believe the only exception to the 'head office is XX1' rule is in "W" - W2 is Paddington as it was a second 'head office' for the area. Lewisham is SE13, not SW13! I believe at least one area has managed to get a proper postcode change - the Barbican was initially part of EC1 when it was being built, but became EC2Y during the 70s. Allegedly a result of the City of London exerting significant pressure on the Royal Mail to move their 2,000 brand new 'luxury' flats away from the very downmarket (at the time) EC1 postcode. Probably only possible due to EC1 being 'overcrowded' anyway though.
@davidowen2396
@davidowen2396 Жыл бұрын
I've researched this...apparently the G comes from the last letter of BarkinG. Not sure why. Apparrently IL was avoided as it may be written too closely resembling LL (Llandudno) or L1 (central Liverpool)...
@MrDannyDetail
@MrDannyDetail Жыл бұрын
W1 today is handled by a different mailcentre to all the other W codes if I remember rightly.
@robertyoung9611
@robertyoung9611 Жыл бұрын
Doesn't IG cover both Ilford and Barking? Also Ilford used to be part of Barking back in the day. Hence Barkingside, actually once being part of Barking.
@davidowen2396
@davidowen2396 Жыл бұрын
@@robertyoung9611 Yes, but an interesting way of incorporating Barking into the code..maybe IB would have made more sense?? (I don't know if IB is the code for another area already....
@robertyoung9611
@robertyoung9611 Жыл бұрын
IB would indeed make more sense, I can't think of IB being used for anything else.
@essexandy189
@essexandy189 Жыл бұрын
I worked at KEB EC sorting office for over 20 years in the 80’s and 90’s even iv’e learn’t something from this video 👍👍 and lots off ex Postmen became Black cab drivers it was the perfect job to do the Knowledge lot’s off free time because it was a great job back then
@cjmillsnun
@cjmillsnun Жыл бұрын
IG is IG because IL could be mistaken for LL or L1. G is used because it's adjacent town is Barking
@andybaker2456
@andybaker2456 Жыл бұрын
In case anyone else is as confused as I was by why it isn't 'IB', according to Wikipedia they decided to use the last letter of Barking, rather than the first! 😁
@itsjohndell
@itsjohndell Жыл бұрын
With all I have learned today I have decided to do what I have done for decades: just put the bloody postcode down and ignore what it means.
@MattBasch
@MattBasch Жыл бұрын
Always cracked me up that the American Embassy is SW11 7US. 😂
@hb1338
@hb1338 Жыл бұрын
The US government gave Royal Mail a large amount of money to make that so.
@andremp03
@andremp03 Жыл бұрын
I had no idea it was decided alphabetically!
@BLX187
@BLX187 Жыл бұрын
Good vid.
@Alan_Mac
@Alan_Mac Жыл бұрын
That was magnificent! Postie to cabbie seems a natural career progression.
@redsnapper1959
@redsnapper1959 Жыл бұрын
I went in the opposite direction... cabbie to postie!
@lewisdavies5505
@lewisdavies5505 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for a great video as usual! Why do SE postcodes start again alphabetically from SE18 (Woolwich) to SE19 (Crystal Palace) to SE20 (Penge), then alphabetic again? Is there some historic inner/outer London thing going on?
@flankerpang
@flankerpang Жыл бұрын
What I don't get is, when London runs out of codes, why didn't they assign another number to the outward code? I know Southampton's SO1 ran out and got reassigned SO14 and SO15. But London's gone for EC1A or whatever. I've seen on Wikipedia that EC has not run out of numbers (like, at all)...
@kanedaku
@kanedaku Жыл бұрын
From working in the city, the extra letters are usually a subdivision. EC2M (London Wall) EC2Y (Fleet Street). Both _kinda_ fairly close, but the amount of addresses in the area probably cut up EC2 a long time ago.
@kanedaku
@kanedaku Жыл бұрын
Ooh, another good example is SW1 - theres also SW1V for the area around Victoria, and SW1P is the Pimlico area.
@markpunt9638
@markpunt9638 Жыл бұрын
Downing Street mail is not actually delivered to Downing Street - for security reasons. It is handled centrally via mailing house
@DavidCunnington-j8u
@DavidCunnington-j8u Жыл бұрын
Thanks. Thought I’d use it as an example as everyone has heard of it
@dVb9
@dVb9 Жыл бұрын
When the Naval and Military Club HQ was in Piccadilly, its postcode was W1N 0ES, which its members found highly amusing.
@yuls_minki
@yuls_minki Ай бұрын
how was it amusing
@awrigh240784
@awrigh240784 Жыл бұрын
I need to get my SW13 flat on the market ASAP… oh wait no it’s in Lewisham 😜
@davidcunnington8316
@davidcunnington8316 Жыл бұрын
Ha, I knew it and was meaning to say SE, but came out as Sw!
@michaelwood3099
@michaelwood3099 Жыл бұрын
Ilford postcode is IG because IL could be misread as I1 or LL, the G is the final letter of adjacent postal area Barking.
@mjt8199
@mjt8199 Жыл бұрын
Nice copy n' paste from Wikipedia there. They couldn't use IB either as it would should like IP on the phone and stuff ends up in Ipswich.
@LiveFromLondon2
@LiveFromLondon2 Жыл бұрын
Nonsense, it was Ilford General
@haltendehand1
@haltendehand1 Жыл бұрын
It's Ilford and Gants Hill
@davidowen2396
@davidowen2396 Жыл бұрын
To the chap in Ilford who has tried to get it included in the London postcode areas...keep pushing. The snobby residents of the Wirral on Merseyside campaigned to have their postcode changed to CH (Chester) from L (Liverpool) in 1999...there, they simply changed the first letters so that the number on the stem corresponds to the old Liverpool postcode (eg Prenton changed from L43 to CH43). Since 1999, the economy of Liverpool has surged whereas the Wirral's fortunes have lagged. They need to refer to Wirral now as part of the Liverpool city region to capitalise on the connections to Liverpool....should've kept the L !!
@Wasserfeld.
@Wasserfeld. Жыл бұрын
Having lived with people from Bromborough and New Brighton at uni, I find that hilarous
@davidowen2396
@davidowen2396 Жыл бұрын
@@Zoltanlouis2009 Apologies...then it looks as though I've been pushing an urban myth...
@user-ei7ed6zy9k
@user-ei7ed6zy9k Жыл бұрын
I love how you’re just driving in opposite directions on Mare Street every time you ask a question for the camera
@DougieMcGibbon
@DougieMcGibbon Жыл бұрын
As a follow on to this, it'd be good if you could do a video at some point explaining the British road numbering system 🙂
@alexicawson6642
@alexicawson6642 Жыл бұрын
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Britain_road_numbering_scheme
@fatladattheback8642
@fatladattheback8642 Жыл бұрын
Clockwise radially, with London as the hub, A1+++ to the North East; A2++ to the East; A3+++ to the South and sw; A4 +++ to the West and Wales; A5 +++ to North Wales and the Midlands; A6 to the North West. A7, A8, A9 over the Border in Scotland, radiating from Edinburgh in similar system. Many developments of the roads have made a hash of the original theme.
@almostanengineer
@almostanengineer Жыл бұрын
@@fatladattheback8642motorways did follow a similar pattern to start with, but they tended to go nuts later in their construction.
@almostanengineer
@almostanengineer Жыл бұрын
@@fatladattheback8642motorways did follow a similar pattern to start with, but they tended to go nuts later in their construction.
@hanwellianben
@hanwellianben Жыл бұрын
Why were you filming outside that working cab shelter in Kensington Park Road? Used to get a good brekky in there!
@stefansoder6903
@stefansoder6903 Жыл бұрын
Great! Brilliant! I had a pretty good idea but not that the numbers were alphabetically.
@matthewferro9908
@matthewferro9908 Жыл бұрын
I work in the news uk building. It’s an SE1 postcode. Unless RM have dual postcodes for it and accept both.
@JaisalTanna-awsomeperson
@JaisalTanna-awsomeperson Жыл бұрын
I always find it strange that Brent, as county Postcodes in London and out of London. Willesden - NW10, Wembley - HA9, HA0. Wish Wembley was given an NW postcode.
@hb1338
@hb1338 Жыл бұрын
Wembley was not in London when the postal districts were originally created in the middle of the 19th century.
@barrycoppock
@barrycoppock Жыл бұрын
Lewisham has SE postcodes with a part bordering on Bromley which has a BR postcode.
@shakealgoritham861
@shakealgoritham861 Жыл бұрын
Royal mail's response to postcode change request: no hope. Rupert Murdoch:
@ms.antithesis
@ms.antithesis Жыл бұрын
great video but saying post codes in london are geographical "Unlike the rest of the country" deos discount the fact that multiple cities in the uk order their post codes as left to right, or as spiraling out from the centre of the city. whilst not geographical in that they have soouth and north and whatever in the name, are geographical in the sense that you get a tough geographical sense of where something is in a city based on it.
@Tommyevansbackup
@Tommyevansbackup Жыл бұрын
N4 Is in the Boroughs of Haringey Hackney and Islington
@davidpriestley1650
@davidpriestley1650 Жыл бұрын
One of the most unique Postcodes was a large office block on Bridle Road, Bootle, Liverpool. which was should have been within L30 4YD but as it was part of the General Post Office (when it was built in the 1960's) it got GIR 0AA - home to the Post Office Girobank. Since it was taken over by Alliance & Leicester, and now Santander - it lost its unique postcode and it changed to L30 4GB (as a nod towards its previous incarnation as Girobank).
@discodiscodiscoking
@discodiscodiscoking Жыл бұрын
Brilliant video
@rembrandx
@rembrandx Жыл бұрын
How does an International Operations Director become a cabbie? That must be one hell of a pay cut.
@robtyman4281
@robtyman4281 Жыл бұрын
He's probably semi-retired, and may only work part time??
@rembrandx
@rembrandx Жыл бұрын
@@robtyman4281 yeah, makes sense :D
@CallieMasters5000
@CallieMasters5000 Жыл бұрын
Maybe he was caught stealing mail. (Just kidding)
@davidcunnington8316
@davidcunnington8316 Жыл бұрын
Part of life’s big plan! Worked my way up from postman to Director over 36 years and always wanted a career change by my mid 50s. Did the first 3 years of the Knowledge on my pushbike on weekends then finished it once I left RM. Now work 3 or 4 days a week in the cab and love it.
@hb1338
@hb1338 Жыл бұрын
Another way of saying the same thing is "lifestyle change". Cabbies are self-employed and get to choose when they work, there is no office politics and no dress code. If you are prepared to work hard, you can make good money and have lots of fun doing it. What's not to like ?
@Jnthnpg
@Jnthnpg Жыл бұрын
Fascinated by postcodes. Simple but so effective. I grew up in Cumbria but we still used the old LA Lancashire postcodes from pre-1974 times!
@hb1338
@hb1338 Жыл бұрын
LA = Lancaster
@joemonks936
@joemonks936 Жыл бұрын
How can Lewisham be SW13 and Barnes also be SW13?
@Robslondon
@Robslondon Жыл бұрын
Fantastic video Tom. Stay well and be lucky 😉
@EssOneFive
@EssOneFive Жыл бұрын
So what was the rude gesture from the bus communter at 10:25? haha
@bretton_woods
@bretton_woods Жыл бұрын
From another angle: what would happen to London gangs if there were no postcodes? Or if the postcodes changed for some reason?
@TomtheTaxiDriver
@TomtheTaxiDriver Жыл бұрын
I love this 😆
@hb1338
@hb1338 Жыл бұрын
They are British - they would keep their name and refuse to use the new postcode.
@kanedaku
@kanedaku Жыл бұрын
I swear the "postcode gangs" were made up by the media. When I was a nipper, it would be something like Myatts Field Vs Stockwell Park. I've never believed kids got into fights now because one is SW9 7xx and the other is SW9 9xx (SW9 7 is Brixton, SW9 9 is in Stockwell)
@NRJenzenJones
@NRJenzenJones Жыл бұрын
This was great, thanks!
@ebismusic8813
@ebismusic8813 Жыл бұрын
Tom your videos are so interesting I don’t even skip the promos 😅
@simonchilli2088
@simonchilli2088 Жыл бұрын
The reason for Ilford being IG we were told when we were learning to code(which is when we used to type the postcode of letters infront of us on a small conveyor belt.) was that it was from an old name for Ilford. It was 1983 so my memory is telling me it was Iglesham. However I can't find any reference to this. My wife thinx it may have been Ingatestone. I think that's somewhere else tho.
@MaNNeRz91
@MaNNeRz91 Жыл бұрын
W11 right next to W2. Used to throw me off all the time This video is right up my street Also thamesmead is SE28 as it was a newly built area Lewisham is SE13 not SW13 though 😂
@hb1338
@hb1338 Жыл бұрын
You should have said "this video is right in my postcode area".
@paulhoughton5266
@paulhoughton5266 Жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed that, I am a Londoner of 57 years and that was all news to me.
@alexsmith854
@alexsmith854 Жыл бұрын
Great video, really informative.
@adlam97531
@adlam97531 Жыл бұрын
Sewardstone is E4 post but it is in Essex, the only place as such in London
@Tommyevansbackup
@Tommyevansbackup Жыл бұрын
Yep the only Settlement outside London with a London postcode
@hb1338
@hb1338 Жыл бұрын
It was in London once, but boundaries change. Sensibly, Royal Mail decided to keep its postcodes fixed wherever possible - they almost never change.
@Karlthegrubber
@Karlthegrubber Жыл бұрын
Easier in Ireland. Every property has its own unique postcode.
@mildlydispleased3221
@mildlydispleased3221 Жыл бұрын
And then you go to outer London where you get postcodes like CR, BR KT, EN, etc.
@chrisamies2141
@chrisamies2141 Жыл бұрын
which continue outside London! The KT ones go up to (I think) KT6 in London and then KT7 to KT21 are in Surrey.
@mildlydispleased3221
@mildlydispleased3221 Жыл бұрын
@@chrisamies2141 That's because Kingston Upon Thames was intended to be larger but rich suburbs such as Epsom didn't want to be part of Greatet London, hence why the borough is unusually small and has a lower population than most other boroughs.
@GanGstaBG
@GanGstaBG Жыл бұрын
Lewisham is SE13. He just said when he was talking about the route from the blue books that SW13 is in Castelnau, Barns 😅.
@davidcunnington8316
@davidcunnington8316 Жыл бұрын
So sorry, I knew it but didn’t concentrate
@TomtheTaxiDriver
@TomtheTaxiDriver Жыл бұрын
I think in the pop quiz we were so concentrated on numbers 🤪
@GanGstaBG
@GanGstaBG Жыл бұрын
@@TomtheTaxiDriver Totally agree, Tom! It was a great video anyway. He has an amazing amount of knowledge.
@davidcunnington8316
@davidcunnington8316 Жыл бұрын
So sorry, I knew Lewisham is SE13, I meant to say SE13 and my brain didn’t tell my mouth that so I said SW13, then said it again! I like Lewisham and spent days cycling every road of it whilst on the Knowledge. Always happy to take a far there in the cab.
@Zeyev
@Zeyev Жыл бұрын
The UK may have originated the concept but it's not as much fun as the Canadian system that alternates letters and numbers in a 6-digit identifier that can sometimes be so precise as to identify a single building. Why not as much fun? Because there are no codes beginning with the letter H, Canada Post uses H0H 0H0 as the code for letters to Santa Claus. Top that! 🤣
@WerewolfLord
@WerewolfLord Жыл бұрын
Apparently that started out as an accident. So the story goes, kids would write Ho Ho Ho on letters to Santa, the sorting machines interpreted it as the H0H 0H0 postal code, and sent them to the Montreal sorting office (H being the Montreal area).
@Zeyev
@Zeyev Жыл бұрын
@@WerewolfLord Thanks for reminding me that Montréal has codes beginning with "H." The zero as the next digit would indicate a rural area, something the city lacks. Here's the Wikipedia description of Santa's postal code. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postal_codes_in_Canada#Santa_Claus
@Digimonisunderrated
@Digimonisunderrated Жыл бұрын
Lovely stuff as always Tom!
@louisbrooks28
@louisbrooks28 Жыл бұрын
this was really interesting! I'm not from London (or the UK for that matter), but I've been to London multiple times and absolutely love exploring the city. I love your other videos to see some cool stuff about the city and now i finally know what the postcode stuff is all about. Thanks for the great work both of yous :)
@MolloyPolloy
@MolloyPolloy Жыл бұрын
Greatest city on the planet.
@drummerboy1390
@drummerboy1390 Жыл бұрын
I can barely remember my own postcode.
@paulsz6194
@paulsz6194 Жыл бұрын
Great video, I always found London postcodes a little confusing. This gives people visiting London a good idea on how the postcodes work and the little bit of history was great as well . 👍🏼 This video deserves more views.
@ahmedjama8307
@ahmedjama8307 Жыл бұрын
Great video. I live in Bracknell and found the Windsor & Maidenhead (Ascot) part hilarious, because they actually hate the SL postcode soooo much. Slough is horrid crack central and Ascot Windsor and Maidenhead are very affluent.
@snich63
@snich63 Жыл бұрын
Yes indeed - I used to live in Windsor in the late 1990s. I also learned that moving into a newly built block of flats that doesn’t have an allocated postcode is a headache, as the postcode is used for things like finding a doctor or theatre bookings.
@kanedaku
@kanedaku Жыл бұрын
@@snich63 Yeh, RM are quite slow in assigning postcodes to new builds. I used to do credit checks in the 2000s and the majority of new build residents would fail, as the credit agencies wouldn't have been notified of the new postcode for the verification part.
@Andy_001_
@Andy_001_ Жыл бұрын
Why would Kingston Vale want to have a KT postcode rather than the SW15 of posh Putney?...
@chrisamies2141
@chrisamies2141 Жыл бұрын
I can't imagine. Although the whole of Kingston upon Thames is KT apart from that tiny sliver up by Roehampton (edit: and a couple of streets that are TW10) so it would make things neater. SW is prestigious though.
@kevowski
@kevowski Жыл бұрын
Fascinating I work In London frequently and often wondered why there seemed to be no logic to the numbering after the main letters 😊
@91hardeep
@91hardeep Жыл бұрын
Croydon is slightly different with their postcodes
@maxe1729
@maxe1729 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant video , really enjoyed Tom
@MatthewGJones1
@MatthewGJones1 Жыл бұрын
A brilliant video once again Tom!
@elgoog-the-third
@elgoog-the-third Жыл бұрын
It is interesting how very different post code systems have turned out in different countries. Another example: the Swiss system. They somehow managed to cram multiple things into it. First, you can easily calculate the difference between two four-digit postcodes due to how they are assigned. Then, the way they work is that the first digit designates the greater region, the second one the area, the third one the railway line used for delivery, and the fourth one the location. There are two more internal digits used to designate the delivery route.
@stevieinselby
@stevieinselby Жыл бұрын
Interesting thing about N and SW not being there is that the SW area goes through the alphabet _twice_ ... SW has SW1 (Central), then SW2-10 as Brixton to West Brompton (South-West) and SW11-20 as Battersea to Wimbledon (South) although interestingly neither N nor E does the same, so presumably NE was removed from the plan earlier and S was a late change after the districts were allocated?
@richard9444
@richard9444 Жыл бұрын
As a taxi driver and not a postman,I don't do post codes.
@thedeeprot
@thedeeprot Жыл бұрын
Love your uploads Tom! 👌
@TomtheTaxiDriver
@TomtheTaxiDriver Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@hog1810
@hog1810 Жыл бұрын
Love this guy so interesting to listen to
@waynesmith1971
@waynesmith1971 Жыл бұрын
Such a fascinating insight into London postcodes. I lived in London for four years and I had no idea how the post code system was constructed or if there was even a system to it but this video is really insightful
@misschocobunny8734
@misschocobunny8734 Жыл бұрын
Not me yelling at the telly saying Lewisham is not SW13!!! Did a stint as a postie in the late 80s, but couldn’t hack it after 6mths!
@davidcunnington8316
@davidcunnington8316 Жыл бұрын
So sorry, I knew Lewisham is SE13, I meant to say SE13 and my brain didn’t tell my mouth that so I said SW13, then said it again! I like Lewisham and spent days cycling every road of it whilst on the Knowledge. Always happy to take a far there in the cab.
@Laser2120
@Laser2120 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant this guy is like a human satnav !
@iandrew6347
@iandrew6347 Жыл бұрын
Wow very interesting Sir great video as always
@mfurmyr
@mfurmyr Жыл бұрын
You must have used a noise filter.
@Nooticus
@Nooticus Жыл бұрын
Great video. This man clearly knows his stuff (except from the very minor SW13/SE13 Lewisham mix-up at the end!)
@davidcunnington8316
@davidcunnington8316 Жыл бұрын
So sorry, I knew Lewisham is SE13, I meant to say SE13 and my brain didn’t tell my mouth that so I said SW13, then said it again! I like Lewisham and spent days cycling every road of it whilst on the Knowledge. Always happy to take a far there in the cab.
@Nooticus
@Nooticus Жыл бұрын
@@davidcunnington8316 no worries mate!
@jetblakink
@jetblakink Жыл бұрын
Lewisham is never SW13!… try SE13!… One thing I've never ever understood relating to London postcodes though, why do football pundits always attribute Chelsea to be a west London Club, when Chelsea is clearly in SW3?
@AthynVixen
@AthynVixen Жыл бұрын
It's weird though. i live in Uxbridge town centre which should be UB1 you should think but it is UB8. Really interesting video Tom.
@hb1338
@hb1338 Жыл бұрын
UB1 is Southall, which is the location of the main post office for the district - as explained in the video.
@georgelloydgonzalez
@georgelloydgonzalez Жыл бұрын
This is gonna be so interesting
@djtysonsherif6165
@djtysonsherif6165 Жыл бұрын
Lewisham is SE13
@6lack5ushi
@6lack5ushi Жыл бұрын
ALPHABETICAL assignments was the key I could never decode on my own. GREAT VIDEO! thanks for E20! MAKES SENSE
@nigelh4617
@nigelh4617 Жыл бұрын
Dave Cunnington. He da man.
@mypradasatthecleanerss
@mypradasatthecleanerss Жыл бұрын
Fascinating! Dave shared great insights. I couldn’t not be reminded of the roadie in Wayne’s World 2 however!
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