Tiberias leaves Jerusalem - Kingdom of Heaven

[@Jayjay-qe6um]

"First, I thought we were fighting for God. Then I realized we were fighting for wealth and land." That is so true even to this day, but the saddest part is, even this days, nobody's ashamed.

[@jamesolivito4374]

Sadly, for many people , money is their God.

[@Mrmango7777]

crusades were needed though.

[@shore1001]

Exactly, idk how people still justify the crusades when it caused more harm than good. Sure Christendom wanted to defend themselves against the Muslim Turks, but conquering the holy land was way out of the way

[@emmapeel8163]

@@Mrmango7777.. getting rid of Islam in EU; sure. but splitting church, pouring resources into Jerusalem .. unnecessary!

[@Mrmango7777]

@@emmapeel8163 very necessary to combat against the Muslim conquests.

[@tomoyaitoi6813]

”God be with you” ”He is no longer with me” One of the greatest line😢

[@barbarossa1780]

Only a fool can ever be lead to sacrifice all for a god. It’s been a tool of powerful men since religion began.

[@firingallcylinders2949]

This movie is one of the first and only to acknowledge the water needed to move entire Armies and just how many animals would be at a battlefield after the fact feasting on the dead.

[@vincentnin1]

there are very few modern films (at least 20 yrs old) that features the crusades/armies in the desert though.

[@firingallcylinders2949]

@@vincentnin1 That's true, but these are true regardless of location. During the American Civil War the carnage was so ridiculous and it took place in people's farms and backyards. There are accounts of farm animals especially hogs just eating the dead bodies. Free State of Jones depicts this but not many others. Animals have no issues eating dead humans and not many movies show it. I also believe that a horse on average on a warm day requires 2-3 gallons of water minimum. More if they're running alot. Now multiply that by entire Cavalry units.

[@shauny2285]

I'm sure the smell wasn't pleasant either. Not sure if they got that in this scene.

[@rkadi6540]

@@firingallcylinders2949 and multiply it again when in hot dessert land, war is logistical nightmare and still to this day

[@firingallcylinders2949]

@@rkadi6540 Also communication is butchered in historical movies. In movies when these gargantuan armies all act as one with no orders it's funny because there were no radios or internet. Alexander does a decent job at this in Gaugamela when they use flags to direct the units.

[@edwardyadlon5290]

Jeremy Irons is on another level his one major scene in margin call shows how good he really is. Commands the entire scene.

[@annelively6932]

DO DOES YOUR MUM

[@MrJustonemorevoice]

Jeremy Irons can be a great actor or a terrible actor, but he's always a joy to watch.

[@suntoritime]

@@MrJustonemorevoice He's been in some terrible movies, yes, but I have never seen him give a terrible performance.

[@MrJustonemorevoice]

@@suntoritime Best movie : Kingdom of Heaven Worst movie : Dungeons and Dragons

[@suntoritime]

@@MrJustonemorevoice Agreed, but even in D&D (a TERRIBLE film), Irons gave it his all. Deliciously cheesy.

[@cmsacademy1673]

The director cut long version is cinematic masterpiece

[@nocturnalrecluse1216]

👌

[@Jonnybravo589]

Yup director cuts and all time great.

[@michaelthompson342]

Agree!

[@seanmiller5460]

Seriously... They never should have butchered it for the theatrical cut.

[@stevestevenson3252]

Yeah its really good.

[@vladomontezuma626]

The best male voice I have ever heard in my life.

[@dipankarnimkar1441]

Chad male voice ❤

[@6tony1gray4]

He plays as scar in the lion king. Truly an iconic voice

[@namkl4128]

the amount of knight's armor left behind on the battlefield make my inner looter self hurt..

[@frankbalatbat1804]

"You are over encumbered" Morrowind 2002

[@somedud1140]

My inner looter is willing but my body has reached its limit!

[@ciaranbrk]

Too heavy to take especially when you’re going to be laying siege to a city you can sack.

[@necrophadian]

Just TP back and sell yer commons and blues

[@ifedhimspaghetti]

:D This would be 4 hours of trips back and forth to the armor merchant No gauntlet left behind

[@road3557]

The uncut version is probably one of the greatest films Iv ever seen.

[@rv2167]

this film was perfection, my favourite of all time

[@TheSometimeAfter]

I mean.. It wasn't. Was it? They had to release the Directors Cut to fix all the plot holes

[@milebrale5335]

One of the most stupid decisions of the crusaders was to attack Saladin without knowing where he was. That's why they all died, and that's why Jerusalem fell

[@davexorus9836]

@@milebrale5335 without European help it would be doomed either

[@Jonnybravo589]

@@TheSometimeAfter you got it backwards my guy. Directors cut filled in the plot holes stolen by the studio. Also anyone who’s a fan is more or less always speaking of the directors cut.

[@Leon99741]

damn, you set your bar low

[@steliospsyllakis2055]

Tiberias knights ended up on Rhodes island my home there the build a spectacular castle witch stands to this day the lasted for nearly 300+ years before the Othomans took the island

[@KiwiImpactSaint]

Tiberias is based on Raymond the Count of Tripoli and Tiberia. If I remember correctly he did not forsake the kingdom, but died a few years after Jerusalem taken.

[@dyingember8661]

And the survivors moved to Malta, to continue harassing the ottomans, and when the ottomans came yet again, they successfully beat them back this time, and the knights are still on that island to this day, what a group of champs.

[@flyingberserker3965]

@@dyingember8661 they saved europe

[@MauriceTarantulas]

@@flyingberserker3965 And Lepanto and Vienna but yes the siege of Malta was huge! I would love to visit. I read a good book on that time period recently. P.s Read the story of Prince Michael the brave😉

[@flyingberserker3965]

@@MauriceTarantulas battle of toulouse too i think. I know michael the brave he fought against ottomans

[@alokadevapriya]

1:35 is one heartbreaking scene.

[@rottenfifa5391]

Was he beheaded?

[@thomaso.2686]

@@rottenfifa5391 Yes. He was (or was based on) Saint Nicasius. He was captured at Hattin and when he refused to convert to Islam, he was executed.

[@bobbyfirmansyah8580]

@@thomaso.2686 Saint Nicasius is Executed by the Vandals. Nicasius of Sicily, is Executed by Saladin at Hattin, for refusing toconvert.

[@bobbyfirmansyah8580]

Best character apart from Baldwin and Saladin

[@flashygreenx8828]

A fallen angel

[@Invinciblez18]

Thanks for uploading the whole scene

[@Americaone1]

I have always liked Jeremy Irons....great underrated actor👍👍👍👍👍👍

[@strategicsage7694]

Underrated by who? He's generally very highy regarded.

[@Happymouth1]

This fucking movie is so good

[@captainkirk7513]

it is

[@红杏出墙-c7g]

I can't imaging the King lead his army marching in the sizzling dessert without enough water supply. He acted like a child claiming himself a King of a sand fortress.

[@mersedmuratovic3819]

The movie does not depict the tactical masterpiece Salah al din had employed at this battle by setting bushes and shrubs ablaze and filling up the wells in the area with dirt which massively contributed dehydration of Frankish troops. Hence the lopsided casualty count. Also heavy armors of Europeans did not help either.

[@rkadi6540]

@@mersedmuratovic3819 ah yes, dirting the well. That little effort of filling the well with dirt truly made huge impact in any medieval dessert warfare. Not to mention the hardliners (from both sides) who always recklessly demand a more aggressive approach without thinking the preparation and logistics. Must be pure headache to discuss a war tactic with them in the team

[@mersedmuratovic3819]

@@rkadi6540 you ever tried doing anything when dehydrated? Combine that with smoke inhalation, heavy armour, shield and weapon and even a simple task of lifting your hand becomes hard. Did I say anything about logistics of crusaders? Do we have any documents on their provisions before they set of to meet the opposing army? The facts are that crusaders were thirsty and tactics employed by Salah al Din were masterful for the situation that the battle called for.

[@h0rn3d_h1st0r1an]

Scar abandons Lord Celeborn upon seeing the face of Mad-Eye Moody on a pike, but Legolas stays

[@JennyZinaTavares]

Sad to see Remus Lupin dead.

[@h0rn3d_h1st0r1an]

@@JennyZinaTavares Yes, but at least he's an angel.

[@JennyZinaTavares]

@@h0rn3d_h1st0r1an I saw the video which talked about this theory. It was very interesting.

[@h0rn3d_h1st0r1an]

@@JennyZinaTavares Yeah, really makes you think.

[@Burt1038]

Meanwhile, Dr Bashir draws upon his experiences on Deep Space Nine to advise the Sultan.

[@alexkerr5804]

I’m guessing the piled up heads are meant to be the templars and hospitaliers who were executed on saladins order after the battle

[@kazuhachi952]

With Reynaldo of Chatilion being the icing on the cake

[@KiwiImpactSaint]

Executed men with prominent social/military ranks.

[@MrLeovdmeer]

They where spiked for what they did to the innocent.

[@alexkerr5804]

@@MrLeovdmeer well in real history they were executed because they were the fiercest warriors in Christendom and wouldn’t convert to Islam, not because they massacred innocents (like reynald)

[@playoffmodesp2536]

@@alexkerr5804 it's all about the POV of the account teller. Atrocities were comitted by both sides.

[@robotkiller99]

Jeremy Irons' voice is ASMR.

[@Otaku155]

The character Irons is playing here is Historical Fiction, and is basically a stand in for Raymond III, Count of Tripoli. Raymond never actually left the Levant, but rather, fought alongside Balian and Guy de Lusignan, who were actually on the same side btw 😂, at the Battle of Hatrin, and later died in Tripoli following Jerusalem's capture by Islamic forces.

[@kimlamberthmatic6720]

if only the production allowed the Director's cut to be played in Cinemas.

[@mattalley4330]

So Professor Lupin's muggle ancestor came to a bad end...

[@trajan231]

So did Mad Eye Moody's

[@mattalley4330]

@@trajan231 Should have been practicing CONSTANT VIGILANCE!

[@Adamdidit]

well.........sorta in the full version he's more of some kind of unexplained supernatural spirit in a mortal body and he announces before this that it's time to be done here

[@w.s.2102]

Smart man, Cyprus sounds peaceful

[@Lahbib-ox1uy]

so the crows will eat agamemnon brother instead of eating paris on the multiverse

[@Christopher-mk9tp]

🤣🤣 damn...

[@teudaan]

yep, that is the king of Sparta head on that spike.

[@lionelhutz5137]

*Menelaus

[@martinwiren3085]

I had a lot of discussion with My historically friends in Jerusalem who loves this film meaning they see the spirit even if they are of Judish originals

[@mahrkoudings3502]

Tiberius was a real one

[@mattmatt2096]

What a shit time to be alive... we are so blessed....

[@calmondey4214]

indeed. Even if from time to time I struggle in this life, I consider myself lucky to be born in this century

[@zainophrenicgaming2727]

but, if you leaving in this time, Maybe Money is not that Important, probably you got your own Tale or Lore & Maybe you can die as Warrior, today you will die as Patient in Hospital, Accident in Road at Work, probably you can die on your own Bed, & you also can get killed by Bandits out there...its depends on your opinion

[@Sforza_1994]

What changed exactly?

[@Jamllkp]

@@Sforza_1994 For most of the world’s population….everything? Don’t let your dumb teenager angst blind you to the progress humanity has made.

[@Sforza_1994]

@@Jamllkp Wow! We got a angry boy here 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@mrgrumpy6408]

So after all these centuries nothing has changed in that region.

[@tukangojek1335]

Looks back on donbass massacre, and Christchurch mass shooting Yeah, still the same.

[@SamBrickell]

@@tukangojek1335 Would you like a list of all terrorist attacks committed by islam?

[@tukangojek1335]

@@SamBrickell i can do listing both legitimate resistance jihad against western imperialism and illegitimate act of terrorism funded and backed by western which one do you prefer?

[@pytek23]

​@sambrickell9142 would you like numbers of innocent children killed by Western countries?

[@pytek23]

​@@tukangojek1335agree Ukrainian goverment killing Russians in Donbass region for decade is most despicable and silenced genocide in modern history.

[@fahadak8314]

01:23, that's how Atheism at Europe started

[@MrDarkduran]

Tiberias retired to Wall street and focus on money. He's no longer fight for God

[@leoyang887]

Margin Call ?

[@someopinionateddirt6561]

How could he fight for god when Bruce Wayne hadn't been born yet?

[@Joseph-ic8xd]

Tiberias would yet again take a monumental loss...

[@fasiapulekaufusi6632]

I mean you did execute Saladin's sister. How do you expect him to act?

[@Mikael22-18]

Saladin wanted war no matter what, He'd promised his people to return to them Jerusalem. Tiberias isn't angry at the butchery, he's pissed because the thing he's given his whole life for is lost.

[@fasiapulekaufusi6632]

@@Mikael22-18 i know. But salahadin would have spared Renald but he cut his head off to revenge his sister

[@Mikael22-18]

@@fasiapulekaufusi6632 I doubt he would've spared him, he executed others as well. Guy was spared because he was King, and Saladin believed a King should not kill another.

[@fasiapulekaufusi6632]

@@Mikael22-18 the others also committed atrocities. Most were guy's and Renalds men who took part in the attacks on caravans

[@johnnyboy3410]

Saladin swore that he will kill Renald himself for killing his sister and raiding hajj caravans

[@victortahlor4038]

What manner of man does not make the world a better place?

[@theroachden6195]

Seen this movie a bunch, I didn't realize only the Hospitaller's head was left.

[@kanthector]

Moody and Lupin dead. The dark lord has risen

[@MQurashi556]

I wonder from where they arrange those vultures ?

[@parvezshaikh9082]

VFX

[@wojtekgall4766]

Templariusze...♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️⚜⚜⚜

[@rimacalid6557]

The Mongols encountered the same fate, after all the carnage they caused. The Byzantines and the Sassanids too. And one day...

[@mertcanduran9049]

That reminds cartoon movie named The Lion King when Simba gets saved by Timon and Pumbaa

[@Pipicrit]

That’s Raymond III of Tripoli 😂 and he died from his wounds after hattin

[@JK-br1mu]

1177, the Battle of Montgisard: "Exactly one week after he had crossed over from Egypt, Saladin and his army were crossing a ravine near Montgisard, southeast of Jerusalem, when the Christians came crashing down on them from the north. Saladin had no idea what was coming his way. With the element of surprise on their side, the Christians, despite being incredibly outnumbered, were able to send Saladin's army from the field of battle. The victory was owed in part to the Templars and their heavy charge led by Odo de St Amand and eighty of his brethren. Ralph of Diss in chronicling an eyewitness account of the Battle of Montgisard wrote of the devastating effect of the Templars' charge: 'Spurring all together, as one man, they [the Templars] made a charge, turning neither to the left nor to the right. Recognizing the battalion in which Saladin commanded many knights, they manfully approached it, immediately penetrated it, incessantly knocked down, scattered, struck and crushed. Saladin was smitten with admiration, seeing his men dispersed everywhere, everywhere turned in flight, everywhere given to the mouth of the sword.' Many of Saladin's men left the field, those who had the courage to hold their positions were all but destroyed by the Christians. Soon the Egyptian army was in flight, abandoning not only the booty they had captured as the pillaged their way towards Jerusalem, but also many of their own weapons. If the humiliation in the field was not enough, the journey home only added to it. As the army crossed the Sinai Desert, they were regularly harassed by Bedouins, while others who stopped in villages to beg for food and water were slain or handed over to the Christians as captives." "Among the notables who took part in the attack, there were, in addition to Baldwin IV, Raynald of Chatillon, Baldwin of Ibelin and his brother Balian, Raynald Sidon, and Joscelin of Edessa. Along with them there was also the famous relic of the Cross of Christ, normally kept in the Resurrection Basilic in Jerusalem." "While exact casualties for the Battle of Montgisard are not known, reports indicate that only ten percent of Saladin's army [10-20,000 men] returned safely to Egypt. Among the dead was the son of Saladin's nephew, Taqi ad-Din. Saladin only escaped the slaughter by riding a racing camel to safety. For the Crusaders, approximately 1,100 were killed and 750 wounded."

[@sparky1595]

You are aware that what is on screen is the aftermath of the Battle of Hattin right?

[@JK-br1mu]

@@sparky1595 Am I aware that I mentioned a battle in which the Crusaders smashed the Islamic armies, as opposed to the battle not shown but referenced in this movie where they lost? Yes. Thank you.

[@Bektashi]

@@JK-br1mu doesn't really have anything to do with this video though

[@JK-br1mu]

10 years before Hattin

[@inspiretw]

@@Bektashi let him take his copium it's fine xD

[@M1DL1F3GAM3R]

In medieval age don't they reuse the deads armors or any kind of metal the dead has? Like swords, knifes, shields, etc...

[@tukangojek1335]

Either missed details or out of spite from saladin's army

[@Fr0st1989]

Probably an oversight really

[@frankkiri398]

Yes absolutely. Especially knights armor and weapons would have been significantly higher quality. Looting dead soldiers was a type of payment for the winning army. Royalty and army leaders might have been spared from looting depending who the opposing side was. And their bodies would be offered to be returned as a sign of chivalry.

[@timmaloney9976]

That's what it's always been about; land and power, even today.

[@miracozturk]

01:40 All death is certain!

[@NataliaCh93]

Brom from Eragon 😊🙂

[@Dondingdingding]

templars got slaughtered.. aight imma head out

[@The_Dodge_Meister]

yes they got slaughtered because the army marched without water there leader was a real dumbass saladin just waited until they started dying from dehydration then wiped em out in the hot desert wearing metal armour lmao

[@goddessone3162]

As I spoke with the key Turner of the Mosque a word or more. I noticed the metal piece the inscription on it. The words between these two men depicted are you be taken in accordance. The birds of prey are not far away. The Ravens right wing is being held down. WAR is coming this Time from Heaven. No man's Will but GODs thru via Heavens messenger. We have fought many battles all battle's said for the will of GOD n or Heaven. Yet each n every battle n destruction was for wealth land n power. This War is for GOD Heaven n Earth. Fight til you cannot fight no more. Faith Won for sure.

[@rayhoyer4829]

This was in the original cut right?

[@tomvare7814]

Tiberias was actually at the Battle of Hattin

[@amuktadir1991]

Betration in battle or war is a crime responsible for those people for dojokh and to much betration is road to whole army of that time.

[@brendansherry8737]

Perfect Summer Soldier. When the battle gets tough he breaks all his oaths, all bonds of fellowship and abandoned everything and everyone he claimed to believe in. Most wretched character in the movie.

[@sdcharger21]

We're all our fathers sons.

[@simonphoenix3789]

There is no way those dead bodies would have anything on them that long after the battle. The soldiers on the winning side would have been busy stripping the soldiers of everything valuable. Weapons, armor, but even their clothes would have been taken. Movies always seem to get this wrong and love showing a battlefield that is full of dead armored men with weapons lying everywhere though. Even if they had to move and didn't have time to take much, looters would often follow armies in the hopes of getting rich.

[@gojhubgugggvvb]

There were symbol of cross in their uniform. They will not take it

[@JamesLaserpimpWalsh]

He ran off. Maybe he had other reasons. He didn't strike me as craven.

[@warriorking0723]

He still should have helped balian. Even though Jerusalem was practically lost he and his knights still could have helped balian to save the people.

[@StarBoy-ps1xc]

Seeing the thing he fought for throughout his life being lost , anyone would be broken enough just to abandon

[@truli91]

​@@warriorking0723 you do realize that in real life the real Tiberias or Raymond of Tripoli was in the fight. He's one of the only ones that manage to escape. He died later due to the injuries.

[@brother_of_bruh]

Isn‘t it very out of character for Tiberias to abandon the people of Jerusalem? He is NOT the kind of guy to run in times of need. I never understood that, I found it to be one of the few weak points of the plot.

[@truli91]

BECAUSE he didn't in real life. He was leading the front of the army, he manage to escape but the injuries got to him later. He was the only one saying they should not head towards to Hattin, even if his own wife was sieged inside Tiberias. He wasn't listened to.

[@jamesbondjr4902]

Leave there and come be with me and WE can GO anywhere our hearts desires 💯 waiting on you 💋 GOD IS WITH YOU 😎👌👁👂🙏💯❤

[@paulallensdemise2533]

Tiberius: He is no longer with me… Me: BLASPHEMY!!!

[@JimmySteller]

There is no god.

[@mrsery5941]

the fool has said in his heart: there is no God@@JimmySteller

[@JimmySteller]

@@mrsery5941 if that’s foolishness, may I never know sense.

[@mrsery5941]

be careful what you wish for@@JimmySteller

[@gojhubgugggvvb]

Well, there was no God in the Crusades. It was a false call from the Pope in Vatican. 😂 That pope deceived a lot of people for an easy salvation of their souls

[@AJ-Edits.]

Tiberias should've became the king after baldwin

[@misaghkhosravi4541]

Leaving traitors on their own, is always a good desicion...

[@achmaddmitri9090]

In real battle .. Bailan were on rear and flee after battle was lost

[@narendramartosudarmo6112]

That’s a lot of vultures.

[@m4_SOPMOD_2]

Lol When Tiberius Realize he being scammed

[@JonahGhost]

Rumor has it that he went to Israel.

[@GoodLookingGentlemen]

Hei the Hospitalers is dead, turn out he's not an angel like everyone said.

[@captainkirk7513]

why?

[@curetonbenares9236]

him being an angel doesnt mean hes immortal

[@lenoxxmoon4396]

Many Muslims sought shelter in the Al-Aqsa Mosque, the Dome of the Rock, and the Temple Mount area generally. According to the Gesta Francorum, speaking only of the Temple Mount area, "...[our men] were killing and slaying even to the Temple of Solomon, where the slaughter was so great that our men waded in blood up to their ankles..." According to Raymond of Aguilers, also writing solely of the Temple Mount area, " in the Temple and porch of Solomon men rode in blood up to their knees and bridle reins." Writing about the Temple Mount area alone, Fulcher of Chartres, who was not an eyewitness to the Jerusalem siege because he had stayed with Baldwin in Edessa at the time, says: "In this temple 10,000 were killed. Indeed, if you had been there you would have seen our feet coloured to our ankles with the blood of the slain. But what more shall I relate? None of them were left alive; neither women nor children were spared."[22]

[@kimjongwin]

Just pure evil

[@gavinrose5971]

that was the first crusade. This film is about the third. Also as an explanation the first crusade it was mainly made up of prison inmates offered redemption and gold to retake the holy land. So no surprise a bunch of criminals slaughtered thousands.

[@navinkv7024]

@@DeathDeliveryGuy nope moron!

[@Theredsunrising]

@@DeathDeliveryGuy Except he didn't he massacred the prisoners of Hattin and enslaved anyone in Jerusalem who could not pay a ransom

[@triplehernan5155]

@@DeathDeliveryGuy Saladfingers got owned by Richard I several times.

[@supersasquatch]

they left jerusalem and went to quebec

[@TheKobasen]

The reason americans protect Israel is because of wealth and lands.

[@amuktadir1991]

Accpting u r guilt makes u a righteous person,But venture after century of crimes makes u only A person only.

[@thedukeofswellington1827]

All death is certain

[@annegijzen7364]

Free 🇵🇸

[@olechristianhenne6583]

AFGHANISTAN IN AH NUTSHELL

[@amuktadir1991]

Do u know 500 to 1000 of years of sin and oppression in yours own land gives the right of your land to 2ndary person.

[@haitolawrence5986]

??????????????????????????

[@Thirdyy_]

until to this day, I don't feel christianity in the modern world feels like more of a business, reason I stop going to church I'd rather pray by myself rather go to these people that preaches for nothing

[@alblar7904]

going to middle east while being a christian be like:

[@ulysses4989]

Do you even know history

[@perfesser944]

"God wills it". What a bunch of complete nonsense. If there is a god, which I doubt very, very much, he did not willed stuff like this, any more than did allah (whose existence i also doubt).

[@haitolawrence5986]

Check out the big brain on Jimmy!

[@TranslaterBaik]

Then we shouldn't

[@bobhopeless2629]

Honestly it didn't make sense that Tiberias just abandoned Jerusalem.

[@Fan_Made_Videos]

Historical facts says he did, and to Cypress

[@flatearthisahoax4030]

Because he was fighting a rich man's war, and not for God. He said in the movie that he was ashamed. There are lots of historical wars that were fought for something darker under the guise of a noble cause.

[@captainkirk7513]

@@flatearthisahoax4030 well - he *fought* a rich mans war yes. But by now all the richmans were dead. Who were left were... the people.

[@captainkirk7513]

@@flatearthisahoax4030 well - he *fought* a rich mans war yes. But by now all the richmans were dead. Who were left were... the people.

[@DeadCryer]

Vlandia vs Aserai

[@iliemarculescu6363]

Subtitles : God is written with captal G, not "god", out of respect. God.

[@BahaAta]

god never care about how written his name. cares about what is purpose and what is the will behind. recommend... never put your minds games on his name. God or god... show your respect with your doings.

[@pandabear1576]

@@BahaAta when you name an entity you always capitalise it hence the reason people say God or Allah the way I just spelled both words

[@BahaAta]

@@pandabear1576 believe me that entity does not care... you know what I mean... do not force you grammar centeric person, you just lose your mind and creativity.

[@BahaAta]

@@pandabear1576 and you must write every sentence first letter capitalize... care about it also. Ok

[@josue.ortega]

If there is such a thing as a god it probably doesn't care much about how humans write its name in a certain alphabet 🙄

[@Overwatch9]

While this movie was visually great, the actor's performance was also great, it unfortunately, severely lacked in historical accuracy. A crusader would never doubt the will of god and have this bleak atheist post modern look on faith. And almost all protagonists display such view in this movie. And the ones that don't, are the antagonists, the evil templars willing to go to war. This simply did not happen in such manner.

[@Boon2Dock]

I don't agree that Tiberias has a "atheistic" view. Nor is it post-modern in any way. He simply feels that the purpose he had when coming to the levant has become hollow, corrupted by greed and ambitious men. There are contemporary writers that noted this by the third crusade, with the notion being even more wide spread by the more infamous fourth crusade.

[@Overwatch9]

@@Boon2Dock You would perhaps be correct, if it was only this character. However, Balian repeatedly says things like "god does not know me, I'm outside god's grace" and more. The hospitaler knight also remarks, that he "puts no stock in religion". The only faithfull christians are templars and the bishop and they are portrayed as villains.

[@Boon2Dock]

@@Overwatch9 The hospitalier puts no stock in religion because he thinks that the relationship with God is a personal one, not one driven by a corrupt church (see indulgences). Balina says what he says because he goes to the temple mount and thinks that just because he's there God should be as well. The hospitalier responds with saying that God will know you through your good deeds, not by simply wlking up a hill. The Bishop and the templars are the least faithful christians in the story.

[@Overwatch9]

@@Boon2Dock There is also a scene in the extended cut, where a bush catches fire and Balian expresses further doubts to the Hospitaler. My point is, a crusader would have never doubted the existence of god, faith or even the righteousness of the church. He would not be against the killing of the infidels (muslims), and the Templars were never ever hanged for raiding the arabs. There is a series of videos, titled "historical accuracies of KOH" made by a channel called Real Crusades History, I believe. I strongly advise watching it.

[@Boon2Dock]

@@Overwatch9 Saying people that lived a thousand years ago would never do x or say y is a bit presumptuous, people are people. This isn't the first crusade. Balian isn't a crusader, he is pilgrim with who's wife was abused by a priest. Of course he would express doubts, othetwise his character would be pretty unlikable.

[@amuktadir1991]

A token can be loose,But there r still some good people,Who makes Vatican City.

[@DragonbornOfUltimaThule]

A coward to run in sneaky aristocratic way

[@amuktadir1991]

This is the time when chrislam lose it’s first right in Jerusalem.

[@Sa_xll]

What right Jerusalem is for Muslims and you tried to occupy Jerusalem !!

[@Sa_xll]

truly? You speak with confidence that you have a right to the place you occupied 😂

[@annelively6932]

No.

[@jfern2101]

Best movie ever!!! well director cut version

[@tigs9999]

Fiekiyt

[@amuktadir1991]

U lost it by 1800,Now 3rd right.

[@kevinsambur6070]

damn Renald and guy, that's trash

[@benjamingoldman]

✡️✡️✡️

[@amuktadir1991]

Envy is start of sins and greed is first step in sin.

[@jamesbondjr4902]

🤔

[@thewarden1398]

Actually, the Crusades were fought as retaliation to about four hundred years of Muslim aggression, murder, rape and conquest, but whatever you need to say to shoehorn your message in, I guess.

[@captainkirk7513]

haha I guess your...vision of the past is the one you seem to value as... worthy huh?

[@thewarden1398]

@@captainkirk7513 what did you say? And why did you say it like that?

[@Sa_xll]

Keep lying hahahaha

[@Sa_xll]

Keep lying hahaha

[@thewarden1398]

@@Sa_xll your record's skipping.

[@amuktadir1991]

At 50(Minimum).

[@amuktadir1991]

If u trully want it then go in my,Accept that u loose u r right in Jerusalem for end of earth,and take the 3rd right of Alaska mosque.Only see the symbol of love.

[@amuktadir1991]

When I see touch of Alaska mosque see Jews feel of that love,When I see chrislams in around Alaska mosque I see think of that rock and when I see Muslim paying in that mosque I see like for that mosque.

[@adammac4960]

Could have been a better film. Alright for a Sunday night filler but it’s so boring. I think this made people question putting Orlando bloom as the main actor in films because he is terrible. Stick to playing magic elves Orlando

[@maxgallagher2535]

👌👌👌

[@yochaiwyss3843]

The Director's Cut is far far better

[@ravinraven6913]

Even being into the time period, this movie was boring. We watched it in school, thats how you know its not going to be what you expect. Far greater than crap can still be garbage. I forgot this movie came out after Lord of the Rings. Knowing the history, I feel like this is just a waste of time and supposed to show you how bad the Crusades really was, it makes saladin look good but he was in the 3rd crusade and I thought this movie was about the 1st or 2nd

[@kimok4716]

@@ravinraven6913 This movie is about the fall of the kingdom of Jerusalem which triggered the 3rd crusade in the first place. You even see Richard the Lionheart at the end. I do agree it shows too much positive bias in favour of muslims, but it was a stunning visual representation of the period, the action was great and it had good drama. Balanced experience

[@adammac4960]

@@kimok4716 it was average. The costumes and scenery and all that were good and the action scenes but were very limited but the story telling and pacing was terrible. If they had of stuck to the accuracy it probs would have been a better story. It’s Orlando bloom I cringe every time he takes a lead role.

[@amuktadir1991]

The second right only touch the love of someone.

[@amuktadir1991]

In another word Vatican City and coming to jerusalem.

[@arielg7000]

ho shit man

[@fieldmarshal7081]

Yep you are watching the future of Israel as history always repeats its self

[@aurinkomies]

@@fieldmarshal7081 Cringe

[@fieldmarshal7081]

@@aurinkomies people like you would find someone saying hello as cringe

[@khalildz1552]

@@fieldmarshal7081 palestine* You are invaders just like the crusaders who called it the kingdom of jerusalem You know what happend to them

[@holly6435]

THIS IS THE U.S.MILITARY

[@rinikaul7653]

There is no God

[@ALMSTLRN]

LOTR is more historically accurate than this movie