"It's not a cow, it's a letter" This is my kind of humor
@gorgolyt8 жыл бұрын
I prefer yellow bile and blood.
@victoradamenja47626 жыл бұрын
this is greek not herbew
@wordart_guian6 жыл бұрын
However A is a letter AND a cow (turn it around and it is actually a cow with horns). It doesn't only look like one. Whoever invented the A actually drew a cow on purpose.
@aislinn24685 жыл бұрын
@@wordart_guian lol :P cute but actually the original 'alpha' was drawn differently...that is the official font version.. some people still write it differently by hand... like a loop, or a fish.. which is where the 'Jesus fish' comes from that some people have stuck on the backs of their cars or whatever (because it is said that Jesus said 'I am the alpha and the omega', meaning 'the beginning and the end')
@wordart_guian5 жыл бұрын
Free Spirit actually the Jesus Fish comes From the Fact Ιχθύς (Fish) stands for Ιησούς Χριστός Θεού Υιός Σωτέρ (Jesus christ, son of god, saviour). Also the original-original Alpha looked like Α, the fish-like version appeared later. The antiquity capitals were brought Back during Renaissance. Original Α came from phoenician Aleph, from protosinaitic Alphu, "cow", which was a drawing of a cow.
@Exception14 жыл бұрын
Alpha 0:56 Beta 1:03 1:11 Gamma 1:15 1:22 Delta 1:27 1:36 Epsilon 1:40 Zeta 1:47 Eta 1:51 Theta 1:57 Iota 2:02 2:12 Kappa 2:16 Lambda 2:21 2:29 Mu 2:34 2:39 Nu 2:43 Xi 2:49 Omicron 2:54 Pi 3:00 Rho 3:05 Sigma 3:10 3:17 Tau 3:21 3:27 Upsilon 3:30 3:37 Phi 3:42 Chi 3:47 Psi 3:52 Omega 3:57 4:06
@athenatheophanous13933 жыл бұрын
Thank yoi
@yemaster90003 жыл бұрын
MVP
@draconyxRPG3 жыл бұрын
Underrated comentary
@megsie14243 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@harajukuloverstour3 жыл бұрын
ABGDEZETHIKLMNXOPRHSTUPHCPO
@HiroMahtava8 жыл бұрын
It's time to mess with the Math teacher =3
@EI_Greko7 жыл бұрын
Hiro Mahtava yeah stop saying "pie" instead of "pee"
@josep90166 жыл бұрын
lol
@MikeGreenwood516 жыл бұрын
To Herristophros Gewpyoulas, I won't be eatting any of your apple pee.
@greenguy52946 жыл бұрын
summation will be fun with the “siwma”
@imaduk39096 жыл бұрын
Lol
@jackwright249511 жыл бұрын
I used to wonder why Greek had two letters for 'o' until I looked at their names: o-micron means 'small o' and o-mega means 'big o'! And the sounds are indeed different.
@Michail_Chatziasemidis5 жыл бұрын
In modern Greek, their sounds (not names) are identical. But, in ancient times ο μικρόν used to be a short high o sound, while ω μέγα used to be a long low o sound. (High and low are the positions of the tongue in the mouth to make the vowels.
@tassoss134 жыл бұрын
It does have a difference in sound omicron make a continuous O sound while omega makes a instant O sound
@NIKOLASINGLESSIS4 жыл бұрын
@@tassoss13 the opposite exactly !!
@George-ef7dv4 жыл бұрын
wow man im a greek and i never noticed that
@SuperManning114 жыл бұрын
@@Michail_Chatziasemidis great explanation, ευχαριστώ !
@rarulis9 жыл бұрын
As a mathematician I was tired of butchering the pronunciation so thank you. Some sounds are actually quite close to french like the a in alpha.
@FrozenMermaid666Ай бұрын
It is not ‘butchered’ pronunciation at all, and that is the correct English pronunciation, as when one speaks English one must use the English pronunciation, which is what fits the English language - those are symbols with different sounds modified for English use in maths, and they were not meant to be pronounced as in Greek, as English is a different language with different pronunciation rules, and every time a language creator took symbols and letters and words from different previous languages he gave them new meanings and adapted the pronunciation to the new pronunciation rules from that language, so they are now a part of that language with new pronunciation rules, and the pronunciation they were given in that language shouldn’t be compared to the pronunciation they were given in the previous language or languages!
@AndrewFallows9 жыл бұрын
It's not a cow, it's a letter.
@markhippyshire8 жыл бұрын
Was not expecting "I fuck." to just come out of nowhere...
@AquaBubblez138 жыл бұрын
same
@nadinepace89758 жыл бұрын
Not a pleasant surprise
@markhippyshire8 жыл бұрын
I personally thought it was hilarious and a clear difference in culture, but I can also see that being an issue if you're quietly practicing Greek with people around and assuming it's a SFW video.
@nadinepace89758 жыл бұрын
I was preparing to watch it with my four children. Very thankful I watched it before hand.
@carlbernsen12907 жыл бұрын
I was watching this with my parents after a serious conversation about Greek pronunciation. We were all listening very carefully. "I f**k" suddenly thrown in as a casual example, hilarious! We all felt like we'd learned something useful.
@BlueHidra6410 жыл бұрын
This video is really helpful, I've just started self teaching myself greek about a month ago and I've been sort of flailing. This video helped more than you think.
@eleannamyrtsi23512 жыл бұрын
How is it going w the Greek?
@corbinwilson660 Жыл бұрын
@@eleannamyrtsi2351 he post that 8 years ago
@PurooRoyАй бұрын
@@corbinwilson660 but he still has Greece written in his profile picture.
@blaulin8 жыл бұрын
I have to π
@atruv20898 жыл бұрын
WHY
@AnotherUser10008 жыл бұрын
OK, but don' t forget: Shake it only at a maximum of three times, because after that it is considered to be "μαλακία"(jerking off)... LOL :-)
@omgnocapslock8 жыл бұрын
+Gdfserdy Fgregnm isnt it μαλακας?
@Jacob-pw1ol7 жыл бұрын
tricky smith xD lol
@beafoxxylady6 жыл бұрын
STOP! MAKE IT STOP!
@emilystrettonmoore223411 жыл бұрын
I laughed so much at "it's not a cow, it's a letter" :') this video is awesome, thank you :)
@TicTacOfficial11 жыл бұрын
:-) Thank you Emily !!!
@manifestoh10 жыл бұрын
Tic Tac Official where he says that
@lindokuhle_178 жыл бұрын
+Emily Stretton Moore SAME!!
@1985LISS8 жыл бұрын
+Umutt S THE M THEY SAY IN ANOTHER VIDEO MU SOUNDS LIKE MOOOOO AS THE COW LOL
@itsVollx7 жыл бұрын
Pls make some muuu-re videos
@domingomarmolejo10398 жыл бұрын
My tired joke: it's all Greek to me
@Michael5iLVEr8 жыл бұрын
Domingo Marmolejo the tired Greek joke: Μου είναι Κινέζικα (It's all Chinese to me)
@danielhorn23227 жыл бұрын
εναι ολα ελληνικα για μενα
@slaughtcount2246 жыл бұрын
Wtf in Turkey:it’s all French to me.
@irenechao99624 жыл бұрын
Lol 😂 me too
@elieelias49284 жыл бұрын
In lebanese: 3am ye7ke bessine (he's talking in chinese or it's all Chinese to me)
@tampazeke45873 жыл бұрын
I grew up in Oxford, Mississippi, home of Ole Miss, a very "Greek" university. When I was about five years old I learned the Greek alphabet and impressed my parents by being able to read the names of all the fraternities and sororities on campus. Of course I learned the alphabet with the incorrect English pronunciations. I've lived in the Tampa Bay area now for 30 years and my best friends are Greek. I've had to unlearn everything I thought I knew and start from scratch. This video was a reminder of my journey. Very well done. Σας ευχαριστώ
@davidcherus2118 Жыл бұрын
Did you just say "ghamao" means "fuck". Where I come from it is somebody's name!
@FrozenMermaid666Ай бұрын
Nope, in English one must pronounce symbols and letters and words with the English pronunciation rules, and, there is no such thing as ‘incorrect’ pronunciation when it comes to symbols and letters and words taken from other previous languages and adapted to the new pronunciation rules of that language, and, in fact, that is the correct English pronunciation, as when one speaks English one must use the English pronunciation, which is what fits the English language - those are basically symbols with different sounds modified for English use etc in maths, and they were not meant to be pronounced as in Greek, as English is a different language with different pronunciation rules, and every time a language creator took symbols and letters and words etc from different previous languages he gave them new meanings and adapted the pronunciation to the new pronunciation rules from that language, so they are now a part of that language with new pronunciation rules, and the pronunciation they were given in that language shouldn’t be compared to the pronunciation they were given in the previous language or languages!
@tampazeke4587Ай бұрын
@@FrozenMermaid666 I can't believe that my comment created so much angst in you that you felt the need to write a novel expressing YOUR OPINION on the topic. I CHOOSE to want to pronounce foreign words and letters the way they are pronounced by natives, when I'm speaking that language. You and others can choose a different path. I don't care.
@FrozenMermaid666Ай бұрын
It is a fact, not an opinion, and a loanword automatically becomes an English word once it is adapted to English spelling and pronunciation rules - when speaking English, the words must be pronounced with the English pronunciation rules, including the words modified from words from other languages, which are MOST of the English words, anyway! (Over 80% of the words used in English are a foreign word, mostly modified from Latin languages and some words from Greek and other languages, and they have all been adapted to English pronunciation rules and spelling rules, so they are now an English word, and it’s absurd to try to pronounce them with pronunciation rules that the root words had, and ppl that do such things when speaking English are clueless and against the natural course and evolution of languages, which includes taking words from other languages and adapting them to new spelling rules and new pronunciation rules, as it is in every language!)
@tampazeke4587Ай бұрын
@@FrozenMermaid666 BYE!
@kevinhamilton62562 жыл бұрын
Many years ago (more decades than I care to admit) I learned Greek so I could read the New Testament, as it was originally written in Greek. The US "college Greek" is soooo far off that as I teach my spouse Greek for a visit to Greece, learning the correct Greek pronunciation IS important as we prepare for the trip. Thank you for this lesson. (Lol, before I learned Greek, I thought I knew the alphabet!!) Best Joe
@jamescurley4502 жыл бұрын
I am trying to learn ancient/koine greek so that I can read the new testament too. I am doing it on my own and I am just starting, do you have any tips for how I should go about learning it?
@melquesedekcastro7480 Жыл бұрын
@@jamescurley450 You don't need to learn how the Koine greek was spoken. You just need to learn how to read Greek. If you do a small research you are going to find out that nobody, I said nobody knows how the Koine Greek was spoken. Not even the Greeks. This is my two cents to you. Have a blessed day.
@idizzzful3 ай бұрын
@@melquesedekcastro7480nope it sounded exactly as we know (i am greek)
@michel_dutch9 жыл бұрын
Dutch speaker here, and totally shocked about how different the correct pronunciation is compared to what I've always thought was correct... Great vid, thanks.
@FrozenMermaid666Ай бұрын
I know Dutch and am still learning it, but, there is no such thing as ‘incorrect’ pronunciation when it comes to symbols and letters and words taken from other previous letters and adapted to the new pronunciation rules of that language, and, in fact, that is the correct Dutch pronunciation, as when one speaks Dutch one must use the Dutch pronunciation, which is what fits the Dutch language - those are basically symbols with different sounds modified for Dutch use / English use etc in maths, and they were not meant to be pronounced as in Greek, as both Dutch and English are different languages with different pronunciation rules, and every time a language creator took symbols and letters and words etc from different previous languages he gave them new meanings and adapted the pronunciation to the new pronunciation rules from that language, so they are now a part of that language with new pronunciation rules, and the pronunciation they were given in that language shouldn’t be compared to the pronunciation they were given in the previous language or languages! (For example, Dutch doesn’t have the eth sound ð / dh aka the soft d sound or the less obvious d sound that is pronounced in a faster and less obvious way, and it also doesn’t have the thorn sound þ / th aka the soft t sound or the less obvious t sound that is pronounced in a faster and less obvious way, so the eth sound ð / dhelta and the thorn sound þ / thita are pronounced like a normal d sound and normal t sound in Dutch, as that is the correct Dutch pronunciation, and even newer loanwords from English are usually pronounced with a Dutch accent or with the Dutch pronunciation rules, which is totally normal, as loanwords and loanletters and loansymbols are always adapted to the pronunciation rules of that language!)
@FrozenMermaid666Ай бұрын
Re the Greek letter gamma or jamma, isn’t gamma a j sound like the j in the French word je and like the sound in the English word treasure and like the j in the Portuguese word jeito, or, am I the only one who hears a j sound? Because, I don’t hear any w sound, as the w sound is like an u sound or between an u sound and an o sound like in the English word well, and I always hear a j sound when that letter is pronounced… Re the dhelta sound, it is technically en eth sound ð like in the Icelandic words ferð / með / verða etc, which is an approximant of D aka a softer or less obvious D sound that’s said faster and is only about 80% of a normal D sound, and it should be written as dh or ð when explaining the sound, not as th, because English uses th for both the thorn sound þ / Þ (in words like think / thick / thought etc) and the eth sound ð / Ð (in words like then / the / that etc) tho it was supposed to be a dh for the eth sound as it was spellt in East Norse, and, the thorn sound þ is an approximant of T and it is basically a less obvious T that is only about 80% of a normal T and it is said faster and in a less obvious way and can be considered a softer T sound! Also, iota and yota sound exactly the same, as i and y are the same sound, technically, so I was kinda confused by the i being replaced with y in the video - and it seems the H sound ita is also an i / y sound… But, doesn’t Greek have an u sound at all tho? So, it has thee letters for the y / i sound and two letters for the o sound, but no letter for u… Or does it have a combination of letters for the u sound?
@thetrueoneandonlyladyprinc8038Ай бұрын
I have to correct my previous comment about the gamma sound, because it is not a j sound like in the French word je, nor a w sound - I finally realized that the gamma sound is a type of ‘gargled’ g sound that’s like a back g sound, kinda similar to some of the Dutch g sounds, but not the same sound, and, I could hear it clearly in the video teaching the Greek alphabet from another yt that’s called ‘visit Sithonia’ or something like that, and, I don’t think I have ever heard that sound in any other language, so that’s why it wasn’t easy for me to figure it out at first, but I think I finally managed to produce that sound, but I must practice more to get it to sound better!
@Jr-ft9ii4 жыл бұрын
Being a Spanish speaker really brings advantages when learning how to pronounce in Greek. B, D, G are so equally pronounced in Spanish that I need to "unlearn" the sounds I adopted when I learned English 🤣
@siapaayo87353 жыл бұрын
Yeah, they even say that Spaniards were Greeks who migrated to the Iberian peninsula some millenia ago. At least that's what the Asterix comic books say.
@dr.coomer7892 жыл бұрын
For the most part yes. However Greek has things like V and Z, and also hard B G and D occur in the middle of words because unlike Spanish, “delta” and “D” are distinguished and different from each other For example in Greek “δόντια” Pronounced “thoDia” (th as in “the”) Same with B and G, Greek distinguishes these from Beta and Gamma. Soft B and G are Β Γ, hard versions are “μπ” “γκ”
@Ezequiel55vf2 жыл бұрын
Es verdad jajaj suena copado lo mismo con el Ruso😁😂😂😎😎👍 pasa q el Español y Ruso se basan en el alfabeto Griego para la gente de habla Inglesa se les re complica jajaj ya q hay otra R en English. No es tan complicado para nosotros.
@roulakontotoliou54022 жыл бұрын
Ψ Ξ Ζ Λ Θ Δ Γ Φ are the hardest to produce from the none Greeks
@Georgeirfx2 жыл бұрын
@@Ezequiel55vf Well, many Slavic languages are written using Cyrillic script which is derived from Greek alphabet. And Romance languages were all influenced by Greek. If we talk about Spanish and Russian in particular, they have a lot of shared vocabulary with words that came from Greek: cultura - культура (culture), biblioteca - библиотека (a library), problema - проблема (a problem) and so on, they even sound almost the same
@SparklesFantastik6 жыл бұрын
you giggling at "pee" was really cute lmao
@snarevox3 жыл бұрын
geez get a room already
@gwens24635 жыл бұрын
Gamma is pronounced as the voiced velar fricative, loads of languages use the letter(s) G / GH to represent this sound. Mine does too! (Belgian Dutch)
@kori458010 жыл бұрын
This is the correct pronunciation of Modern Greek, not of ancient dialects which is a whole different story.
@TicTacOfficial10 жыл бұрын
Yes, its the pronunciation of Modern Greek
@erimikos10 жыл бұрын
the pronounciation of letters in greek has been always the same,only some grammar has changed
@erimikos10 жыл бұрын
they were guessing,like you,because in there minds,like in your mind there are no exceptions,and that makes you feel better
@erimikos10 жыл бұрын
kori4580 it didn't and doesnt sound like d. it sounded and sounds like δ
@erimikos10 жыл бұрын
kori4580 it is speed mistake,it is because it is between ν and ρ,and that gives δ more volume
@kaminechaitram6 жыл бұрын
I have no idea why I started learning Greek... but this has been by far the best... thank you.
@tannershort54458 жыл бұрын
Just some clarification for my benefit. It doesn't sound like he's pronouncing gamma as a "W' in English. But instead, if there are any Arabic speakers out there, it sounds almost exactly like a غ (Ghayn) in Arabic. Am I hearing this correctly? Thanks in advance.
@Bein3alamein8 жыл бұрын
You are quite correct! It's actually the same phoneme غ in Arabic and even the French r sound. Replacing the letter with a w to get the correct sound is one of the weirdest things I've ever heard!!
@trendyboy15396 жыл бұрын
Yeah Gamma is absolutely same sound as Arabic Ghayn...So we must write it as Ghamma not Gamma...
@harismokhtar5 жыл бұрын
Yes i think you are correct.
@michaelibrahim92755 жыл бұрын
I feel like ghayn comes from the throat and gamma comes from the toungue, at least that's how this guy pronounced it. Ghayn is your throat rubbing against itself but gamma is the tongue against the palate. Edit: Now that I'm listening again I can see that he is making the gamma sound with his throat but it's much softer and a bit higher in the throat than ghayn is.
@lightscameras41665 жыл бұрын
Tanner Short It is a known fact that Arabic, Farsi or Urdu speakers have an easier time learning languages like Greek, French or Spanish since they are already accustomed to guttaral sounds, rolling r,s and other inflections in speech.
@ijansk3 жыл бұрын
As a native Spanish speaker Greek pronunciation feels so familiar.
@AleLopez-G6 ай бұрын
It's all Chinese for me,
@garyrector739410 жыл бұрын
It's good te hear a native speaker explain this, but gamma doesn't sound at all like a W.
@-_Nuke_-10 жыл бұрын
"gamma" can be taken from the word why but just the "wh" (not ouai) part so its whamma :P or just Γάμμα :)
@garyrector739410 жыл бұрын
Gamma is a voiced velar fricative while "wh" is simply "h" followed by 'w." To an English speaker, gamma sounds nothing like "wh."
@OrestisG10 жыл бұрын
Gary Rector I'd say that the sound of gamma is more similar to the "y" in the word "yet"
@-_Nuke_-10 жыл бұрын
Gary Rector Indeed wh doesn't help... And sadly no, y from yet won't help either... Because now that I try to imitate the y from yet sound and the Γά from Γάμμα sound. I see that the tip of my tongue at the y from "yet" sound hits my lower front teeth when I say "y" but when I say "Γάμμα" my tongue isn't hitting my lower front teeth but instead the tip isn't touching anything (is in mid air) and the tongue is curved with the upper curved part of my tongue touching my palate. myhealth.alberta.ca/health/_layouts/15/healthwise/media/medical/hw/hwkb17_073_003.jpg So... It is something that needs a little practice
@OrestisG10 жыл бұрын
CornerrecordZ I know what you mean. I guess the reason is that when you say the word "yet", or "year", the "y" seems to include a bit of "i" in its sound, instead of the dry, consonant sound we need for gamma. Indeed, "y" is the closest you can get to gamma, but you have to throw out that little "i" sound that accompanies the sound we need! The comment about your tongue position seems correct (although I'm not an expert on the subject) and it is precisely what's needed so that the air will not form the slight "i" sound usually acompanying "y"
@xCARNAGE_ASADAx3 жыл бұрын
Little did we know back in 2013 is that this video would help us to pronounce variants of a deathly virus in 2020/2021 and yeah, 2022... and so on.
@mariaa31439 жыл бұрын
Why English speaking sources keep insisting that 'gamma' (γ) sounds like 'w'? However much I try I fail to see any similarity. I think it sounds more like a breezy g (i.e. something between g and h, similar to glottal g in Ukrainian).
@marinanashaaat2239 жыл бұрын
+Maria A yes the closest sound for this in English is gh or how the french people pronounce the r as well, it also exists in Arabic as the letter غ ( pronounced exactly like the r letter in french)
@xx_cawfee_xx9 жыл бұрын
I thought it sounded like the Spanish j
@marinanashaaat2239 жыл бұрын
noo it is not
@xx_cawfee_xx9 жыл бұрын
+Marina Nashaaat alright, but that's what it sounded like to me
@stamatiossargantanis79099 жыл бұрын
+Maria A Same pronunciation as w in "wounded".
@chrisvb43878 жыл бұрын
Lol. Getting married became a cuss word. xD
@joannamiadavis96457 жыл бұрын
Christopher V. Barredo In Greek getting married became a cussword. Big wow. In western world marriage has become to mean not much more than a relationship between an electrical outlet and a plug-in - for the joy and wiping of the tears of those who need to have the whole society partake in the celebration of their particular way of achieving orgasm. Way to subdue morality to the needs of one's almighty crotch. And now a big FO to me for being "political and religious" in a place where most snowflakes wanted to learn greek as a prerequisite to majoring in Underwater Basket Weaving with a minor in Queer Musicology. Oh, how very modern, enlightened, and sophisticated all of us edumaceted masses have become. Now, which way to the safe space?
@GeorgePerakis7 жыл бұрын
Joanna LMAO you're a real riot! Are you alt right? You sure did find a weird place to express your "edgy" political views! By the way, some people just want to learn Greek for religious or personal reasons, it's not always for the sake of some bullshit piece of paper.
@dancinkayley5 жыл бұрын
@@joannamiadavis9645 lmao I came here because I wanted to learn how to pronounce the letters because they're used a lot in STEM disciplines...
@Michail_Chatziasemidis5 жыл бұрын
It had the meaning of "fuck" even in ancient times. www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.04.0057%3Aentry%3Dgame%2Fw
@victoriacser50654 жыл бұрын
@@joannamiadavis9645 chill bro
@sunlitmoon3 жыл бұрын
the giggle at 3:02 was cute 😭
@thesonnyriosvoicestudio59714 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the correct pronunciation. It is much appreciated, since that is the way I pronounce the Greek. I am constantly being challenged by people who give the language an anglosized pronunciation. So, this reaffirms my pronunciation. Thanks again.
@CombatAndroid10 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making this video. It's a luxury to be able to find good Greek-language resources.
@jonotwist2 жыл бұрын
I cannot thank you enough. As children my yiaya taught us the basics of Greek, alphabet and numbers, basic nouns, greetings.... As a physics student, I never rectified the cognitive dissonance between yiaya's lessons and the use in mathematics. It is mii. Not moo. Lol
@someonesomewhere663310 жыл бұрын
3:02 I can imagine what that little giggle was about! (pee LOL)
The English W doesn't sound *remotely* like the Greek gamma! W in English is a consonantal U (oo), the same way English Y is a consonantal I (ee). A Greek gamma is simply a voiced Xi, a sound which does not exist in English but is easy enough to pronounce correctly. Also, gamma is pronounced differently depending on which other letters come after it, for example in 'gyro' (year-o) it has a 'y' sound.
@3Rayfire8 жыл бұрын
+Jack Wright The interesting thing is that i kept hearing whenever he would replace G with W, I would hear his pronunciation as gw. It reminds me of how the r in the Japanese Ryu is pronounced somewhat as a D making it sound like Dee-yu but with a hint of an r sound in it.
@jackwright24958 жыл бұрын
***** Only partly true, because you must know that there are *six* different ways to pronounce the English long 'ee' sound! Doesn't sound very efficient to me. Yes, you will know how to pronounce a word when you see it written, but you will not necessarily know how to spell it if you only hear it. Rather like French in that regard. I do like the reform of 1982 where the aspirant signs ( called the letter 'h' in other languages but somehow missing from Greek) were dropped and the stress is indicated on every word, something that Russian really should have fr both natives and foreigners.
@tiktaktiktamtamtam77998 жыл бұрын
Wrong. The accents play a important role of the meaning of the word in modern Greek. For example, μητηρ with a macron accent imparts the meaning of mother, but with an acute accent it means hemp, and with caron accent it means horse and with a grave accent it means scold. Otherwise why would you have polytonic accents if they are no longer pronounced in a modern language...think about it
@tiktaktiktamtamtam77998 жыл бұрын
You are incorrect, Greek is a special language that came to Earth thousands of years ago by Aliens and it has thus remained unchanged and absolutely resistant to all foreign influences which is why it is so special compared to the indigenous human languages around the world.
@minsklit58117 жыл бұрын
TheusZeusDeus I believe the meaning of polytonic you are referring to is not the official one. Polytonic in strictly linguistic terms means that the prosody of a word affects its meaning. This is not the case in modern greek, nor ancient greek, not even in indo-european (as far as we know, as illustrated by the fact that none of its daughter languages are polytonal). Could you explain what you mean by "polytonic"?
@Kksaeyi2472 жыл бұрын
Γ is one of those letter I think you have to be raise with to get the pronunciation just right. I grew up with Ukrainian parents so the nuances between Г and Х were drilled in, since they both tend to sound like H in English. I both am and am not surprised these letters are the same given the history between the languages and their alphabet, but it's still striking to see them pronounced so similarly. To Russians, Γ becomes G (gut) in English, where as for Ukrainians it's a difference in voicing the same letter, which is what I hear in the video. Γ uses the vocal cords and lives in the back of the throat, which can smoothly transition into a G for those inexperienced with the language and want the new sound to live more comfortably in their mouth. Oddly enough, I also hear similarities to the French R with Greek Γ, which also resides in the same area, although most people switch it out with a full English W to make it flow easier. Χ is voiceless and is moreso in the middle of the mouth, also similar to Ukrainian. It's also difficult to differentiate when learning, essential if you want to say you're actually cold and not hungry in Ukrainian. Growing up in this bi(tri?does a mixed dialect between two languages counts as each mixed part seperate or a whole thing of its own?)lingual environment, I'm all too used to turning letters that look English into completely different letters. P = Russian and Ukrainian R (Greek as well) Russian H = English N Backwards English N (or Ukrainian И) = Greek Η Greek H = English EE E is generally the same throughout Я = German word for Yes (Ja) Λ = is what a Slavic L looks like in cursive
@HKotolos Жыл бұрын
Yeah theres no english way to write it and as he wrote W in the video is misleading to english viewers, people tend to try make too much of a guttural sound in the throat whereas the correct way of pronouncing the letter Γ/γ and in words is so the back of the tongue comes up toward the back of the roof of the mouth instead of in the throat, so it isn't so guttural. try listen to someone pronouncing it is only way
@FrozenMermaid666Ай бұрын
So, in Ukrainian there is no normal g sound like in the English words game / gets / great etc, or can that Cyrillic letter Γ be pronounced like g sometimes, like in Russian? Because in Russian the letter Г can be pronounced like an h sound in certain words tho it is usually pronounced like a g sound… However, the gamma / jamma sound in Greek sounds like a j sound like in the French word je and in the Portuguese words janela / jantar / jeito, and, this sound also exists in English in certain words like genre (the g is pronounced j in this word) and like the forth sound in treasure, like, I definitely hear a j sound whenever one pronounces that Greek letter, so gamma in Greek is more like jamma, and Esperanto has a perfect letter for this sound, which is like a j with an extra roof on top or something like that, which is better for that letter, because j is usually pronounced like an i / y sound in most Norse / Germanic / Nordic languages and in Hungarian and in Slovene etc, while in English and in Celtic languages it is pronounced like a completely different sound that’s basically a ğ sound like the dg / dgi sound in the English word bridge, though it is normally a j sound like in the French word je! (By the way, the w sound in English is pronounced like an u sound or between an u sound and an o sound, depending on the word, and in Dutch and German the w is pronounced like a normal v sound, and in Welsh the w is considered a vowel and is pronounced u like the u / ú in the Spanish words único / unir / unas / unido / unos / uña etc!)
@FrozenMermaid666Ай бұрын
I must correct my previous comment, because the gamma sound isn’t a j sound either, so it isn’t like the j in the French word je - I finally realized that it is a type of ‘gargled’ g sound that’s like a back g sound, kinda similar to some of the Dutch g sounds, but not the same sound, and, I could hear it clearly in the video teaching the Greek alphabet from another yt that’s called ‘visit Sithonia’ or something like that, and, I don’t think I have ever heard that sound in any other language, so that’s why it wasn’t easy for me to figure it out at first, but I think I finally managed to produce that sound, but I must practice more to get it to sound better!
@Nyocurio9 жыл бұрын
Anytime he says "pronounce it like 'w'" it sounds like "r" to me. As in, to me it sounded like he said "ramma" or "rhamma".
@quantumavocado9 жыл бұрын
he pronounced it as english "v"..vamma
@MultiSciGeek9 жыл бұрын
Ancurio sounds like some glottal g to me. Like soft arabic ayn + g sound
@paulfunigga9 жыл бұрын
RUEL SILVANO no it's pronounced just how the french say "r".
@quantumavocado9 жыл бұрын
Paul Orekhov oh no..i'm so confused now....
@chryssadim97089 жыл бұрын
Ancurio w is pronounced like word, world, weather , what
@88888888tiago3 жыл бұрын
Just came here to check the new covid variants
@MadKittyStudios10 жыл бұрын
This was extremely helpful! Taking a class on Greek, and I was a little confused about pronunciation. Not anymore!
@foodtarget10 жыл бұрын
This is an excellent tutorial on the pronunciation of the alphabet in MODERN Greek. However, several of the "incorrect" pronunciations mentioned in the video reflect how the character was pronounced in Ancient Greek, which is the basis for how most of the letters are pronounced in English. So if you are studying Modern Greek, then definitely follow the pronunciations given in this video. But if you are discussing math or science in English, then you should use the conventional English pronunciations. For example, statistics uses μ and pronounced it "mu" or "myoo". This is not an 'incorrect' pronunciation. It is the closest English equivalent to the Ancient Greek pronunciation. No one pronounces it "mee" like in Modern Greek.
@Strikker90010 жыл бұрын
Actually, one can pronounce it as mee (Modern) or as mü (Ancient), but it was never pronounced as myoo. Thats because the letter Ypsilon was pronounced Ü in Antiquity, having gradually evolved to the I sound after the the classical period. And in fact, today all English words of Greek origin containing Ypsilon are pronounced as Y and never as U: psYchology, mYth, hYgiene, hYmn, hYpnosis, etYmology and so on....
@jeremylavine10 жыл бұрын
Strikker900 The original upsilon sound, between "ee" and "oo", doesn't exist in English, and is best approximated by the composite syllable "yu", as in the words "pew" and "few". In none of the example English words you provided is the "y" pronounced as "ee"; rather, it is pronounced as either the dipthong "ai" (like the pronoun "I") or like a short i.
@Strikker90010 жыл бұрын
Jeremy Lavine According to the so-called reconstructed pronunciation of Ancient Greek, Y was pronounced as the French U (as in 'une') or perhaps the German Ü (as in über). A quick search online is all it takes to confirm this. Now, in most modern languages Y is pronounced as the ‘ee’ in ‘meet’, in Greek, French, Portuguese, Italian, German, Dutch, Spanish, etc. In modern English is also often pronounced ‘ee’ in words such as lyrics, physics, myth, system, etc. Sometimes it can indeed be pronounced differently, but surely never as the French or German U.
@jeremylavine10 жыл бұрын
Agreed, except for the qualification "so-called". I see no contradiction between this comment and my previous comment. However, even though Y is pronounced the same as I in modern languages, it's still the case that Y in ancient Latin and upsillon/ypsillon in ancient Greek were pronounced like the modern French u and German u-umlaut. The letter Y was introduced to the Latin alphabet specifically and uniquely for representing this sound in borrowed Greek words.
@jeremylavine10 жыл бұрын
And actually, I believe y is pronounced in German as ü rather than as I, at least in the word "der Typ".
@LammaDrama11 жыл бұрын
Isn't it easier to replace G with H? Hamao sounds like in Greek... also, o-me-ha is betterr, as well as ha-mma.
@TicTacOfficial11 жыл бұрын
The truth is that it sounds something between "G" and "H", I gave it with "G" cause it is a letter that all countries pronounce. "H" is silent in some other languages and "ha-mma" would sounded like "a-mma" and that would be a problem cause "amma" sounds like a completely different word and means "if". That is why i avoid it. But yes, your comment is very right. Thank you for your comment!!!
@brirene144110 жыл бұрын
Tic Tac Official So, it IS like a 'heavy' H -or- like a 'GH' sound then, correct..?
@TicTacOfficial10 жыл бұрын
Brittany Lumsden yes, GH !!!
@brirene144110 жыл бұрын
Thx.
@kalolags8 жыл бұрын
+Tic Tac Official Is it like CH in Deutsch? (Ich - dich etc)?
@ThorirPP8 жыл бұрын
Very interesting. Great video, and a great explanation, really liked this. Two things I want to say about this: 1) You say that "Gamma" uses the "w" sound, but it is actually (according to wiki AND how you say it) uses the /ɣ/ sound (it is a bit like the "g" in the spanish "agua", if anybody reading is curious), which happens to be called the "soft g" sound in my language (icelandic), so in our case Gamma would be correct(ish). You also probably knew this already, so I am sorry for being annoying. 2) I was curious so I checked what the Icelandic names of the greek letters were, and they were surprisingly more accurate (still a bit wrong). Here they are: "Alfa, Beta (should be Víta), Gamma, Delta (should be Ðelta), Epsilon, Zeta (should be Zíta), Eta (should be Íta), Þeta (should be Þíta), Jóta, Kappa, Lambda (should be Lamða), Mý, Ný, Ksí/Xí, Ómíkron, Pí, Hró, Sigma, Tá (should be Taf), Ypsilon, Fí, Khí/Kí, Psí, Ómega" As you can see, it is much more correct than the english one (taking into consideration of the icelandic pronunciation of "i/y", "Í/ý", "j" and "g"). I also learned Pi in math as, well, Pí (english: pee), and never knew that english pronounced it as pie. Extra fun fact: the letter "y" in icelandic is called "yffsilon/ypsilon i" (the Icelandic "ff" sound and "p" sound is very similar). Never knew what the "ypsilon" part meant until I saw the names for the greek letters for the first time. XD
@jaroslavlosos54986 жыл бұрын
Dear Icelander, the way you pronounce the names of Greek letters in Icelandic is not "wrong". It's just not how they are pronounced in MODERN Greek, but it's very close to how they were pronounced in ANCIENT Greek at some point in the history. In even older times, they were pronounced differently again, the pronunciation has evolved through centuries. For example, Delta was definitely Delta before it became Ðelta (to use your Icelandic spelling) in the modern times. Theta used to be Theta (with an aspirated T), then it became Þeta, and later Þíta. The letter "η" (Eta) used to be pronounced similar to "e" (in "bed", but longer and more open), it only changed to "ee" much later. And so on. So don't call your Icelandic way wrong only because it's different from Modern Greek - it's preserving (approximately) the way it was in Ancient Greek. For your comparison, these are the names of Greek letters in Czech: Alfa, Beta, Gama (single "m" because Czech doesn't really have geminated consonants), Delta, Epsilon, Zeta, Éta, Théta, Jóta, Kapa, Lambda, Mí, Ní, Xí (ksí), Omikron, Pí, Ró, Sigma, Tau, Ypsilon, Fí, Chí ("ch" similar to German "ich"), Psí, Omega. So as you can see, it is only slightly different from the Icelandic way, because we also more or less preserved the Ancient Greek pronunciation. Extra fun fact: the word "ypsilon" meant "simple y" (just like "epsilon" meant "simple e"), so calling it "ypsilon i" is quite funnily redundant.
@nickdsp80892 жыл бұрын
As a greek I can tell you that w in the words: win, wall,work,word, wallet sounds exactly as Γ in greek. But not in all cases, for example low, shallow . Mostly when it is the first letter.
@louisemb142 жыл бұрын
@@nickdsp8089 that's because greeks are actually mispronouncing the letter w in english. There is no γ sound in the english letter w.
@Peeps8227 жыл бұрын
This is so helpful, I'm learning Greek from an actual Greek person but when I'm watching KZbin videos they're pronouncing them different to what I've learned and it was confusing me - but this has reconfirmed that what I'm learning is the correct pronunciation so thank you! Or as I should say, ευχαριστώ !
@not_doxing_myself3 жыл бұрын
I have a mad time understanding pronoucatation, but you are the first person I could actually understand and copy.
@andreamelis78138 жыл бұрын
I do not understand why you replace the G like in gamma with w..
@servantofaeie15695 жыл бұрын
@@suicidesquad4464 no it doesnt
@zappycrook11305 жыл бұрын
The pronunciation of gamma is a Voiced Velar Fricative, with a slight rounding of the lips, and W is a labialised velar approximant so the sounds are similar
@Daan035 жыл бұрын
@Ahmad Nasser yup, the ɣ or Voiced velar fricative
@dbcooper99354 жыл бұрын
Because somewhere between ancient and modern Greece, someone had a speech impediment.
@benjiang97894 жыл бұрын
It sounds like "ng" to me.
@georgiion16848 жыл бұрын
yeah that's right, i was kinda annoyed bc americans say "pie" instead of "pi"
@AmieeLupton8 жыл бұрын
Isn't that just the maths term from the English pronunciation of Pythagoras? Pi is used as the symbol for py/pi? No?
@DranPan8 жыл бұрын
amerese:it's a matter of how one pronounces the vowel y and i. The consonant p is the same as in english.(e.g.poor.perform etc), only in greek the air comes a little lighter between the lips (hold a candle in front of yourlips and try to pronunce it with the flame still on). The name of the greek letter pi sounds exactly as in pee (urinate) ,only with a much lighter p.
@AmieeLupton8 жыл бұрын
Oh right, i was thinking py as in python vs pi as in pin
@DranPan8 жыл бұрын
Well, its the 2nd one nowadays as well as in Pythagoras's times (in whose name, "py" is also pronounced the same)...
@lacedaemon83588 жыл бұрын
It is funny how native speakers of the English language change foreign words or terms to sound english but when the opposite is done seems foolish and wrong.
@casttheircrowns7 жыл бұрын
Thanks a bunch for this lesson. It makes sense now to me that the Greeks, and Old English used an I-i spelling out the Messiah name. In those days the i made the Ya sound. Then old english used the i for the ya sound, then in middle english the i by adding a loop to make a j, and the j made the Ya sound. Explains why Jesus name was then spelled with a J.
@Epoch114 жыл бұрын
There is no English word "taugh" ............you were SO SO close to perfection in this video
@diane97257 жыл бұрын
It is refreshing for someone to also demonstrate the modern/conversational Greek sounds; biblical students are learning a developed common sound structure which is helpful among themselves. Many of them surely must find out that it is not the same to native Greek speakers, such as when my Greek Bible student husband pronounced them to my Greek father! By the way, a tip for the Greek "r" (ro) sound is that it is a trilled "r" sound (which my daughter has a hard time making), such as used in the Spanish language, and the "g" (gamma) is from the throat (listen carefully), similar to the French "r" sound, maybe a little softer. Note that the "p" ("pee" as written in the video) is not as aspirated (air flow lessened) as with the usual English "p" - it may help to think of the English "b" for it to come out less aspirated. This could be part of the reason I rarely think of the English word "pee" when I say this Greek letter, but your chuckle reminded me :) Thank you!
@c.d30028 жыл бұрын
Great video! Very helpful, however there is a typo I want to let you know about: We spell Taugh like "tough".
@tunayurttas64977 жыл бұрын
When he says "pee" he laughed. :)
@TheGatesOfFire10 жыл бұрын
do you realise that whenever you say replace g with w you are still pronouncing it with a g? It's rather confusing. Shouldn't you say add a w so that it is now pronounced gw?
@becc_snipe3 жыл бұрын
he isnt it sounds like that to you
@Xnoob5453 жыл бұрын
It's more like a ha or gha voiced velar fricative
@yveb90747 жыл бұрын
This just really helped me ~ first lesson at Greek School later this afternoon! You are my kind of teacher ~ thank you!
@tiffanyfelicienne60219 жыл бұрын
This is fantastic! Thank you so much! I just started learning Modern Greek and want to get the pronunciation from a native speaker from the get-go. I really appreciate your very clear enunciation. I don't think people commenting over whether it should be an r or a w understand that these are just an approximation to help them understand the pronunciation. Just close your eyes and listen over and over, then you will learn it. Don't focus on the spelling until you are comfortable with listening/hearing/speaking first.
@GKapasakalis10 жыл бұрын
Why did you substitute Gamma with W? That doesn't make sense. It's more like a gargling G. You pronounce it right of course but the letter W i think is not the best way to explain it :)
@Dr.Reason8 ай бұрын
Yep, W to an English speaker is not even close to the sound they make. In fact at this level of Greek pronunciation in these types of videos I don’t see a need to make a big deal of such tiny variations. gh or G or gg all sound close enough for this level of learning. W or Wha? Not even close.
@richardcgs20016 ай бұрын
He means replacing the "g" with the Arabic letter (غ) or the French (r) each roughly pronounced like "gh."
@rosalinethomas46654 ай бұрын
Ja it took me 2 years to say the ΑΒΓ
@rolandzatslega84352 ай бұрын
In IPA it sounds like gh and looks like ɣ
@Skorpius67 жыл бұрын
Thank you, I haven't taken any classes in years, prepi na diavasou,lol
@kwestwick60656 жыл бұрын
I picked up a book last week that was written in Greek and was determined to learn the language. I began with children’s alphabet songs and common phrases. I understand the phrases and have a base understanding of the language from that, as I am naturally quite proficient with language structure. I like to play KZbin videos with Greek people speaking, so that I am able to see the body language and hear their correct pronunciation. I’m really glad that I found your channel, thank you. I was trying so hard to find a video of the satisfied my want to know how to pronounce the letters correctly. Its not quite the same in the song, and I’m not happy with settling for Americans pronunciations. If you have any links that you think will help me, please let me know. And the book that I intend on reading I do believe is written in ancient Greek, and I understand that ancient and modern Greek differ, first things first.😉
@Iizanya2 жыл бұрын
Were you ever able to continue this effort?? Four years later, haha
@Победа-с8п4 жыл бұрын
In math these letters are pronounced the way they used to be pronounced in Ancient Greek. We are not pronouncing letters incorrectly, we are pronouncing letters of another language (ancient Greek)
@dwainb87415 жыл бұрын
Voice, tone, annunciations and appropriate minimalist humor - this presentation was very good.
@myndwork11 жыл бұрын
youre good at teaching.
@TicTacOfficial11 жыл бұрын
Wow.... Thank you!!!!
@Pinky9753410 жыл бұрын
Trying to pronounce gamma will be the death of me.
@gloup8110 жыл бұрын
it's like WHY...(γουάη - γάμμα)
@maixent197610 жыл бұрын
I hear you! I spent many hours being told off by a friend who was laughing her head off every time I tried to pronounce the Greek GAMMA. We can only but try, dying saying it! =)
@-_Nuke_-10 жыл бұрын
And the funny thing about it is that Γάμμα (gamma) is very similar with the word Γάμα (gama) which means "Fuck", or "to fuck" :P So if you try to imagine how hillarius would that be for a Greek to hear you saying fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck over and over :P [translate.google.gr/#el/en/%CE%93%CE%AC%CE%BC%CE%BC%CE%B1] [translate.google.gr/#el/en/%CE%93%CE%AC%CE%BC%CE%B1]
@-_Nuke_-10 жыл бұрын
αυτό είπα και εγώ ρε μάστορα ΧΔ
@servantofaeie15696 жыл бұрын
Pinky97534 its very easy for me. The ρ is hardest.
@jyrrin2 жыл бұрын
3:17 I don't know if I'm deaf, but when he says to pronounce sigma like "si-wma", i'm still hearing a "g" in there..is it like a soft g rather than a hard english-pronounced g?
@somnvm373 жыл бұрын
2:16 the weirdest thing, is that some english speakers say "ay-ou-ta", which is probably as wrong, as you could get it.
@태이씨 Жыл бұрын
When you learned the Greek alphabet at Covid, and now rewinding.
@jamesowens71333 жыл бұрын
To think we’ve been pronouncing the names of all these COVID variants incorrectly
@anthonycarlisle61843 жыл бұрын
That's us for you
@HDitzzDH5 жыл бұрын
Being a math major, we basically learn the greek as a minor lmao.
@derpsterclub952710 жыл бұрын
I learned the main letters like: α, μ, τ, ι, κ, ο, π, ς, ψ, and η.
@Xarmutinha3 жыл бұрын
For french speakers "Γ/γ" is like "r", for arabic speakers its exactly like "غ" and for the rest...just do the sound you do when you wash ya teeth without any water.....or try to say *hhhhh" with your vocal cords.
@Magnus_E10 жыл бұрын
great work, plz correct (with a label/annotation?) the spelling of "taugh" to "tough" at 03:28.
@fabreezy196910 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this great clarification!
@uhohhotdog3 жыл бұрын
That’s not how “W” sounds in English
@somniorum77489 жыл бұрын
This was so helpful, thank you (and I'm thrilled that my own bits of research were *generally* right. We never start words with actual "ps" or "ks" like in "psi" "ksi" as they can in Greek, so we *never* pronounce these remotely correctly. When it occurred to me how these should actually be pronounced, I went with it but was always a little unsure until now)! As some have stated, the "w" for "gamma" is a bit misleading, perhaps just to the English ear. For English speakers who are a little more familiar with some other languages, it seems that "gamma" is in Modern Greek pronounced more like a *gargle* as they sometimes call it. Similar to the sound of an R in modern French, or the "gh" you see transcribed for certain middle-eastern languages like Arabic. If you do a search for how "r" is pronounced in French or "gh" in Arabic, you'll find striking similarities.
@bethhentges2 жыл бұрын
psychology
@somniorum77482 жыл бұрын
@@bethhentges Hehe, when I say we didn't start works with "ps", I meant the sound, not the letters. That is - when we pronounce the word "psychology", we omit the "p" sound, unlike the Greeks.
@winstonsmith-ministryoftru16093 жыл бұрын
Government mandated me to come here to learn how to pronounce the names of the COVID variants.
@dough95127 ай бұрын
This is Greek! NOT Chinese!!
@levitate48052 жыл бұрын
I'm an engineering student, and we use greek alphabet in formulas. and I realized that we are all pronouncing these symbols wrong(almost all the symbol) ahahhhhahhaa
@athenagrey314711 жыл бұрын
Wow :) thanks for taking the confusion out of the way. xD thanks for this video, it helped a lot!
@TicTacOfficial11 жыл бұрын
:-) you welcome !!! Thank you very much for your comment!
@matteoezrasmith5 жыл бұрын
Wonderful tutorial! Great work. My only suggestions is that the G to W equivalent isn't quite on par with the English language. There really is no equivalent in english. Its more guttural, like a German G or CH.
@HKotolos Жыл бұрын
Yeah the W he put is very wrong. way he wrote it is like wama
@horshodg8 жыл бұрын
Gamma sounds in no way like the English 'w'. Not even close. English does not have an equivalent sound. Gamma is like the sound of g (approximant) in Castillian Spanish as in words like 'pagar' etc.
@DranPan8 жыл бұрын
Hashad: the castillian g in "pagar" is much lighter than the greek γ; too hard for a greek to pronunce
@horshodg8 жыл бұрын
I see. I don't know much about Greek pronunciation. Just that the gamma sounds much more like a Castillian g than an English w
@DranPan8 жыл бұрын
Harshad Gado Practically the castillian g is inbetween the italian g and a bit softer than the greek γκ(before α or ο). Rather close to γ, as you proposed. Surely no connection to w in general.
@mmmmmmok52927 жыл бұрын
Υπάρχουν όμως λέξεις με το w να προσφέρεται "γάμα" Wolf=Γουλφ Wall=Γουόλ Waste=Γουειστ War=Γουορ
@oppie476 жыл бұрын
That must be a similar principal used when the Romance languages imported W words from the Germanic languages: war = guerra, guerre ward/warden = guardia, garde, guard warranty = garanzia, garantía, garantie win = ganar, gagner, gain William/Wilhelm = Guglielmo, Guillermo, Guillaume Walter = Gualtiero, Gutierre, Gauthier
@princianorvz Жыл бұрын
I love learning Greek!!!
@greenv014 жыл бұрын
These pronunciations are great if one wishes to pronounce the letters in Greek - which can be helpful even when studying ancient Greek. However, when used in math, science, and everyday English, the common pronunciation is fine. Imagine what English would sound like if we used the original pronunciation of words derived from other languages: bratwurst, Los Angeles, radius, micro, etc. Nice video, by the way. I like the simple and clear design of the graphics.
@oldcowbb8 жыл бұрын
so, on pi day you don't eat pie, you drink....
@servantofaeie15695 жыл бұрын
i drink pi everyday
@Autmies9 жыл бұрын
First of all, congratulations to the uploader of this video for trying to explain the Modern Greek pronunciation. People are really confused with the Greek γ so here's what you need to remember. It's something I realised today and I hope that it will help you: When it's *before the vowels "ι" ("i" like in "history") and "ε" ("e" like in "elephant")*, it's just like the English letter "y" in the words "yellow", "yes", "you" etc For Finnish speakers, it's just like your "j". However, the letter "γ" can also be found *before the letters "α" ("a" like in "father") and "ο" ("o" like in "orange")*. In this case, "γ" sounds like a sound between "g" and "h". For French speakers, it's similar to your "r". Someone here mentioned that it sounds like "w" in the word "wounded" and I agree. "W" in "wounded" is different from "y" in "yes", do you see the difference? Try to separate these "w" and "y" from the English words. Doesn't "y" in "yellow" sound like "yee-ellow? (this "ee" is like in the word "see"). Now take the "w" from the word "wounded". We don't say "yee-ounded", do we? This "w" in "wounded" is this second "γ" that confuses so many people. For Greeks out there, doesn't "γέρος" sound a bit like "γιέρος"? Now think of the word "αγάπη", it's not "αγιάπη", is it? That's because the first "γ" is before "ε" (γέ-ρος) while the second one is before "α" (α-γά-πη). I am not a linguist but I really hope that I helped some people with my comment. EDIT: Arabic wāw sounds a bit like γ, right?
@HKotolos Жыл бұрын
Yeah theres no English way to write it, have to heard a pronunciation and as he wrote W in the video is misleading to english viewers, people tend to try make too much of a guttural sound in the throat whereas the correct way of pronouncing the letter Γ/γ and in words is so the back of the tongue comes up toward the back of the roof of the mouth instead of in the throat, so it isn't so guttural. Its funny because if you can speak Greek Γ is one of the easiest to understand and pronounce. Its unfortunate its written online as γ (Γ) because it looks similar to the uppercase letter for υ which is Υ when properly γ (Γ) is supposed to written with a loop at the bottom instead of a straight Y like this ɣ: Correct way ɣ - Online keyboards γ
@Autmies Жыл бұрын
@@HKotolos I agree so much, I dislike the way "γ" looks like when we type. Nobody would write it like that and it looks extremely similar to "y" indeed
@HKotolos Жыл бұрын
@@Autmies Its ridiculous now with something called Clean-tounge which is proper high-modern greek if you go study it at uni, and then theres standard modern greek which is spoken in greece, and now even on the greek news theres alot of slang words like in english someone learning english may struggle to understand and they've stopped using tonos accents on letters teaching greek, which even my greek born grandmothers cant understand some words now which degrades the language and makes it harder to understand and pronounce - Proper way to learn proper Greek is the modern greek/'clean-tounge' greek with tonos/accents (ίέόώ - ιεοω). also didnt expect you to respond after 7 years old comment haha
@Autmies Жыл бұрын
@@HKotolos haha yeah, I got a notification on my e-mail. I found it funny that someone replied to that comment of mine after 7 years!
@georgeloukas710 жыл бұрын
Μπραβο ρε φιλε καλη δουλεια...ειδικα οταν βλεπεις ακομα και καθηγητες πανεπιστημιου να ανεβαζουν βιντεο και να λενε μου και νου και ουπσιλον :p
@valtsiou808910 жыл бұрын
Χαχαχααχχαχαχα.....καλαααα!!!!!
@wiseoldetanteenytan331510 жыл бұрын
a superb, perfectly clear explanation of how to pronounce modern Greek. excellent pace, not too fast, not too slow for someone hearing it for the first time. Was just about to share it with my children, when I reached the end and discovered that they were going to be taught a Greek swear word. Not quite the first Greek word I wish them to repeat!
@Wizard0fDogs2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate this but my main interest in the Greek alphabet regarded mythological greece and back them the pronunciation was more like the common spelling. (beta pronounced b, delta as d, etc.)
@elijah71610 жыл бұрын
Where do you get the "w" from for gamma? How do you suppose that we pronounce "w"?
@elijah71610 жыл бұрын
***** No, I am saying that you are wrong. I think might mispronounce English. Γ = g in English. Listen to this linked sound. As a native speaker I hear "ga aga gha ghya". upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/47/Voiced_velar_fricative.ogg
@elijah71610 жыл бұрын
***** "The second sound is somewhere between the English hard ‘g’ (as in gum) and ‘y’ (as in year)." lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/b-greek/2006-September/040151.html
@elijah71610 жыл бұрын
***** I can see "yellow" "year" "young" as gamma, but "woman" "wonderful" do not have a similar sound for us.
@elijah71610 жыл бұрын
***** Email is not for youtube. Just lookup audio files for w words. You will see that it is not like gamma.
@elijah71610 жыл бұрын
***** You are a native speaker of what? English? Greek and English?
@karthurh3 жыл бұрын
*Delta represents the letter D, and it's pronounced Thelta* me: What the heck
@jimjammajay24883 жыл бұрын
I see where you're coming for for sure, here's what helped me understand that...Put your tongue in-between your teeth like you do when saying th. Now start at that point, and then say thelta. That's what helps me understand it, good luck :)
@bennyton25603 жыл бұрын
Who's here for the omicron because well
@bennyton25603 жыл бұрын
2:54
@anthonycarlisle61843 жыл бұрын
Me haha
@elvielucion62888 жыл бұрын
Thank you because I really need this one.
@ariannasuen40613 жыл бұрын
Oh my god thank you so much honestly this is much more helpful than the "greek alphabet song" videos I've seen
@inmotion8611 жыл бұрын
It's not a cow it's a letter. Hah. Awesome.
@TicTacOfficial11 жыл бұрын
:-)
@lefteristselios456211 жыл бұрын
yeah man that is because he is Greek finaly someone who did a correct and great video btw that : beta-β is more like μπ so the pronuciation if you want to be 100% good and correct with any language it matters little. anyway
@mayasnow78458 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video very informative. Can someone tell me if the right exchange of letters would be instead of g=gh like the letter غ if that makes sense to anyone. Because watching this video and judging it cant be "w" but instead i think its "gh".
@ChiliSaws8 жыл бұрын
It honestly sounds like the W should be a GH, it sounds like he's trying to bring the sound from the back of his throat to say the letter
@bouzoukiman50008 жыл бұрын
+Lucas Sebastião de Almeida Castro no! It is as gh AND y! I don't understand why he says w, nor do i hear it from him or have ever heard that.
@bouzoukiman50008 жыл бұрын
+Lucas Sebastião de Almeida Castro the word εγο can kind of sound like ewo but i don't think that is correct Greek
@servantofaeie15696 жыл бұрын
Maya M the letter غ makes the exact same sound as Γ.
@marcelwaee30566 жыл бұрын
you think it's a "w" WTF? it's closer to g tho, like غ in arabic
@raymondstapleton9883 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I am just now studying Biblical Greek, and this was very helpful.
@Checkmate7773 жыл бұрын
This is modern greek
@baggelissonic8 жыл бұрын
nice work on my language it really helped my friends from other countries to understand how greek letters are pronounced
@lawrencez.69024 жыл бұрын
to me the "w" sounds like a more throaty version of a g... anyway nice video :>
@warau.exe24 жыл бұрын
That's because it is, it's a frictive. The sound in the international phonetic alphabet is /ɣ/.
@user-yt2fz7um2x4 жыл бұрын
Yeah cause it's a gh not a g or w!
@lawrencez.69022 жыл бұрын
@@warau.exe2 Ooh i see ty
@Jfldhr3 жыл бұрын
Omicron variant 2021-11-26
@dimpap979 жыл бұрын
Καλά νταξει δάκρυσα με το τελευταίο. Θεουλης χαχαχα!!!
@katbos49955 жыл бұрын
Best video I’ve ever seen teaching Greek!
@mikepeytonmusic3 жыл бұрын
Just trying to get ahead learning the Covid variants
@amarmoghaddam48197 жыл бұрын
Is it me or does the Γ sound like the French R
@belindaMendoza8 жыл бұрын
Thank God for this video cause the WRONG English pronunciation is killing me!!!!
@rudrigodiaz10997 жыл бұрын
"pie" lol
@giuseppelogiurato571810 жыл бұрын
Very helpful... Dies anyone know of a similar video for diphthongs and the correct pronunciation of upsilon after certain vowels? ... I guess 'gamma' could be be compared to the Dutch 'g' (as in Van Gogh)? Could it be called a "voiced velar fricative"? Also, very odd that he chose that word to demonstrate the pronunciation... Maybe they use that word in Greece as often as we use it America! Lol
@dr.coomer7892 жыл бұрын
Gamma and kappa combined are “G” as in “go”
@Jacob-pw1ol7 жыл бұрын
I had to take Greek this year as a sophomore... and this really helps..
@kendallae7 жыл бұрын
Nice video, would like more examples of pronunciation within words to be clear. At least in English, Spanish, Turkish, the way we say a letter is not necessarily how we pronounce it in a word. Thanks!