Tier List - Wisadel/Logos/Civilight Eterna 1/11/2024 - Arknights [Global Server]

[@Cesith]

How did your Pulls go?

[@purrrrr6423]

I got logos🤑

[@lloleolom]

161 pulls - 3 Logos, 1 Stainless, 1 urine puddle...0 Wis 😥... but I still have about ~350 pulls ☺

[@firstnamelastname7298]

70 pulls, pot1 logos first 10 pull, got wisadel in the 70th, pulled for ines and got her in the next 10 pull, also nabbed her l2d skin. before getting pot1 wis.

[@shyhrk]

136 pulls, 3 Logos, 1 Thorns, 1 Wis'adel, which she showed disgust about me/the doctor... Am I a male magnet?

[@marcof08]

11 pull got wisadel

[@exosteI]

Now we need an OP+ tier for Wis'adel

[@zaiphyros7168]

EX

[@MasqueRad3e]

ULTRA

[@NguyenTien-st5vn]

walans

[@shadecross451]

Nah it should be "BALLS" tier for balance operator 😂

[@KebinKaslana10]

I feel like Logos should be OP, and Virtuosa should be S+ at least, Chalter can definitely swap places with Ray as well.

[@destinytimer4304]

Virtuosa will be op untill we have so many boss that can counter element dmg

[@file17462]

⁠@@destinytimer4304That doesn’t make her any less OP. Plus, she’s not a boss killer (even though she can do that against a good chunk of bosses) lmfao. Some bosses have physical counter, arts counter, anti-nuke etc but that doesn’t make any of the characters less OP.

[@rynxuz]

chalter swap with ray? madness.

[@samrockwell940]

​@@file17462I don't think that's what they meant They meant that she SHOULD be OP until we get a lot of bosses who can counter elemental damage

[@caiovinicius5204]

​@@rynxuzboth Typhon and Ray are better than chalter. Better damage, better range, better versatility, better utility... The only thing chalter does better is dealing with swarms of enemies, but then you can just use Mlynar and he will be better than her everytime as well. Chalter is good for sure, but this is a comparative list and she's not as good as these characters anymore

[@Lian_LC_AE]

Came to see Logos ranking. Even SUPAH takes are better than this.

[@akaiyu3238]

Fr

[@kojo2773]

fr he should be OP

[@AthonusThraeht]

Standard Bearer be llike :

[@five-leafsenpai4591]

Summoner: Strength proportional to your brain lmao

[@ArataShizunai]

Wis’adel being OP in tierlist is the OP way

[@maxvitor7023]

Bro really came up with a Z- rank for Tsukinogi

[@ひいらぎ-n9d]

Looking at it this way, the adjustments in this game are really great.

[@tunamayo586]

Logos with module should be op imo, atleast until enemies start getting elemental resistance. Also i feel like maxxed Ray outperforms maxxed typhon (mostly in the hardest content)

[@GabrielHenrique-pq5bo]

can we talk about how they never released another vanilla 6* defender after nian ? the 6* ''protector'' archetype is composed of only nian and hoshiguma

[@straypaper]

To be fair, there are lots more new archetype popping up nowadays. It makes sense they'd want to cover them first. For example, we have no 6* (gacha) Arts Defender or Abjurer and they've been around forever.

[@khoanguyeninh9994]

I believe some of the lords, like Lappland deserve a boost in this tier list with the module

[@Ramza_VIII]

There needs to be more of a differentiation between ranks, sometimes it looks like everyone is more or less the same rank. Logos being S+ while Ash is S- doesn't look like a big difference in power level for example while in actuality there is too much of a difference for both being somewhere in S. The whole thing needs a rework rather than minor adjustments that let you think you can basically build anything. Well, you can and everyone has their role and whatnot but that shouldn't be what a tierlist is about.

[@gachivalantine3792]

Most people agree that Logos should of been in OP tier.

[@hotkoyoto]

I feel as though Logos should be OP since what he offers almost nobody else can give. Projectile deletion. Instant death to mobs Insane AOE necrosis and arts damage with a slow and stun Like..if surtr can still be "OP" despite the current content. Why can't Logos? One of the few absolute high priority units in many people's eyes.

[@pekoraisjustice]

Got bunch of op characters in this wisadel banner NICE

[@yuzureux]

Virtuosa can be much higher, no? She synergizes with Logos and makes Nymph usable, the only reliable (and really good) operator that can inflict immediate elemental damage, and because of how necrosis currently works, isn't it still technically true damage? Basically free true damage while she can potentially buff your team

[@heimdallcvl]

Arturia will keep getting better and better, with time. One of the most future-proof units in the game. She should be S+ right now (in my opinion), and I think she might get to OP as the game progresses.

[@OwGash]

Ye, i personally think virtuosa is insane as well

[@casval2465]

Imagine being an old archetype yet there are still zero 6 star in it(arts protector), its giving "forgotten"

[@gachivalantine3792]

I'd definitely rate Artusia and Logos (OP) higher, especially as newer enemies with damage reduction or dodge comes out. Lastly, I dont have Ray, but ive heard shes very good, so Id also out her in S+

[@TheBenny9850]

Apart from shu, what are the top 3 defender in the game? I began few weeks ago and i need that type of unit, but i dont know which is among the non limited ones. Maybe Saria and Mudrock

[@leevantraxyt7286]

I would say you re right

[@caiovinicius5204]

Saria and mudrock, exactly. If you need lower rarities Cuora is amazing though, and most of the lower rarity defenders are very useful

[@rizuroth]

Logos might be potential to in OP rank caster because how broken his Instant kill abilitie is ,also abilitie to removed all projectile just insanely broken for S3 .

[@lloleolom]

7:10 Not OP...again😔

[@AthonusThraeht]

she always op in my heart, and sofar noone can defeat her position

[@cyberli_ak]

I mean she’s AMAZING and I love her to bits but imo theres operators that far outclass her, she’s probably not top10 but in my heart she is lol

[@user-yn7cp7bz1y]

@@cyberli_ak 　おｋ！

[@beatdragonvn4002]

Seeing Logos in S+ really got me rolling

[@crisperstorm]

Poor Tsukinogi she deserves better than a meme placement

[@4IZUKI]

somehow i got her until full star, thats is so troll

[@TrapConnoisseur.]

It would've been funny if you put logos in EVERY caster category and give him s to s+. Cuz that's literally who he is

[@fuyutsukirai]

Can't wait for the Executor tier list when Clownslayer comes to global 🔥🔥🔥

[@ve2928]

Can someone explain to me why some of them when on max their tier downgrade, like mudrock to s+ to s(cuz i like her). Im not expert in this game

[@Ashntarrot]

Some Operators reach better peak at their E1/Skill 2 usage, like Mountain from S+ to S, and Blaze from S at E1 to S- at E2 (Nobody uses her S3). For Mudrock, people still uses her S3, but at E2, other Operators scale up better. For new players, Ops with good E1 Tier are better to carry them, but later on at late game where you get access to all Ops E2, some of them are better and power level scales up more significantly. e.g. Surtr from A+ at E1 to OP, that's because when you E2 her and get access to her S3, her power level scales up to the roof, meanwhile her S2 is simply not worth mentioning. I'm also no expert, so feel free to cmiiw

[@caiovinicius5204]

Don't worry though, mudrock is still one of the best characters in the game. Don't be afraid to invest in her, she is amazing and will continue to be for a long long time

[@xeviivry3798]

Wait, why is logos only S+? Shouldn't he be in OP tier too?

[@megugao]

yea aside from bosskiller like texalter or mlynar, logos definitely op tier with consistent damage

[@imadaga69420]

@@megugao I always thought of him S+ but after using him yeah he belongs in the same tier as Mlynar

[@megugao]

@@imadaga69420 i thought the same until i realize that his module is broken

[@nou1364]

What do you mean shouldn’t he be lmao It’s a tier list, there is no right or wrong ranking

[@PrinceOfAllForeHeads]

​@@nou1364are you saying if he puts wisadel on F tier, it still wouldn't be wrong?

[@ra6765]

There should be a whole another tier above OP because thats what Wisadel is She is a tier beyond everyone else its stupid how unbalanced she is lol I'm just glad HG doesn't seem make her the baseline for contents unlike a certain other gacha game

[@miltaire3235]

With all the new ops, I rate Chalter much lower now. In most scenarios, I'd rather have a Logos, Walter, Virtuosa or Typhon. Frankly same with Surtr, there's very few situations where that immortality is needed and you wouldn't just want a fast redeploy instead. Years ago you'd call them OP and the number 1 problem solvers, not now. They're both collecting dust unless you do a specific niche

[@jeownek]

Thorns lower than SilverAsh is crazy, you can't do my boy dirty like that

[@cyberli_ak]

Chalter op? In this day and age? Logos s+???

[@Ashntarrot]

yeah that was weird

[@mariamichaela3818]

Logos is the 2nd strongest operator in the game, more powerful than even Mlynar and Degen, why is he not OP Tier? Surtr and Ch'alter are in OP tier but not Logos? 👎

[@samrockwell940]

Agreed People seem to underestimate him coz he is in waltuh banner who is getting all the attention

[@Helioger]

Honestly ur probably one of the most accurate tier list makers i have seen for any game ever but I still have my questions abt 2 of the rankings here, I think kirin r yato isn't rly op tier, i did get her and m9 her but I very very rarely use her bc she doesn't rly get trough high Def and texalter is just way better also logos op

[@VovanHorroGame]

And Wisad'el say BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM~

[@crooked4827]

"strenght proportional to your brain" for summoner lol 😂

[@galeria_m]

Why Ray lower than Typhon and Rosa now :'( is it so that Ray's module can bump her up?

[@heataugust8965]

This is really accurate without bias. Thanks for the good work.

[@kyarumomochi5146]

How in the world is Logos S+ and not OP when hes the best arts unit in the game?! Ela should be OP too at this point... and Ray definitely needs an increase too!

[@Joo00393]

Yeah, I'd personally rate him in op, he is basically all class caster, he does everything other caster does, burst, aoe, singek target, even has some unique utility to slow projectiles, should've rated op if degen is op

[@balthiertsk8596]

Nah Ela isn't op. Don't get me wrong, she is amazing, but she either has dps downtime or potential DP issue in the early game, alongside the fact that the trap didnt hit air.

[@zonx8801]

Also, I know Surtr is very good but like i feel that her being OP is pushing it

[@Moonlessx]

​@@zonx8801 Yeah i rather give her S+

[@yuurina5092]

​@@balthiertsk8596What. She has 12 dp cost. Her cycles are one of the fastest and she doesn't only just dmg. Did you even use her.

[@RageMasterGaming]

i've started the game 4 months ago so im behind just reached lvl 60 today. Been unlucky with every pull so far, friend said to wait for wiš'adel i saved 110 pulls, but i rolled only 50. In those 50 (every 10 pull was a 6 star): - 2x Wiš'adel - 1x Logos - 1x Texas alter - 1x Ines I leveled her to E2 lvl 60 -> and cleared the entire chapter 8, 9 on 3 star before running out of sanity pots.

[@cyberli_ak]

I’m a level 79 player that started last year and I got fucked… 375 rolls (I really wanted pot6 logos), 3 logos, 2 hoolheyak , 1 wisadel, 1 texalt, 1 hoederer and 1 saga??

[@bravo6going702]

u fricking liar, u really think someones gonna believe u. Someones gonna believe that someone that lucky exists? Lol i started 3 weeks ago, did 91 pulls, just 1 logos and 1 architto (shes not even new)

[@ykobrngo3476]

Bro in 50 pulls, you got 3 of the best unit in the game 🔥🔥🔥🔥 insane luck

[@RageMasterGaming]

@@ykobrngo3476 I shall forever stay quiet regarding my unhappiness with the pulls. Since then i've reached to the end of chapter 10 ~ everything on 3 star. I am so happy.

[@Landy_AM]

Holy fck. Thats insane.

[@quarmy2169]

Logos HAS to be S+ on E1 and OP when Max this is absurd

[@田村-k3b]

始めたばかりだから、こういう動画はありがたいよ。コメント欄も含めて。

[@あさ-n1t8l]

お、新人ドクターだ頑張ってね

[@IonKattTMCE]

How does mountain go from S+ to only S at max? Also unrelated but I need a Ray skin now HG

[@stef2337]

Remember, she is super big bang

[@EricNGY1244]

Now make a combo tier list and put texas+yato at the top

[@theslayerator6352]

Blaze at E1+S7 being S to Max being S- threw me off for a second XD I thought it was E2+S7 XD

[@RomanSurya731]

Tsukinogi already have her golden time on CCBP Underdawn

[@zzz7476]

logos should be in OP tier tbh

[@Shōdaku-b1v]

Question, Why do some operators' rank go down when they reach max? Like some went to B+ down to B only

[@leevantraxyt7286]

Cauz it s a tier list between other operators. Some operators become OP with e2 so there are other operators rank down because they just become a little better

[@wywlf6912]

logos no mod is S+, if +mod definitely OP

[@evencuven]

Is the OP only Shu and Wisadel?

[@Dr.SiegMostang]

Ok there mister in defence of CE (Or maybe because im baised and have her M9 already) At least she has true damage that does NOT drain her HP

[@akshatkumar7938]

Where can I get this wallpaper?

[@KoreanSpy1997]

Fuze being B+ at best? That's total bullshit if you ask me, he's currnetly one of the best 5 star imo, i'd give him A+, and Tachanka needs to be at least an A.

[@RedFish-nz3jc]

There were 5 op operators: Texas omertose, Kirin, Innes, Degenbrecher, Wisadel. Logos kinda stole S+ rank from Eyjafjalla, can't argue with it until I get his module. P. S. What do you think I should get Texas omertose or potential 4 for Logos (300 pulls)?

[@haatsunemiku]

texas

[@vinhngo4311]

Im newbie and I get Weedy on beginer banner, so what can i do with she?

[@Joo00393]

Best caster ever

[@Vovchik28]

Can sb explain me why alter spectre is S tier? Cause I got her, but I have no clue how to use her.😅

[@elkindangen152]

Combo her with Gladia, or AbysalKnight

[@yuzureux]

Get her Vinyl Record Box module (the first one), and m3 s2, she'll do work. Though she is kinda iffy to use, bad as a laneholder, isn't really a "tank", mediocre base stats, and automatically goes substitute when s2 duration is finished (which is both good and bad, since you proc her first talent, but has 0 block, can still die from ranged or aoe attacks, and unless you upgrade the module, she has 0 sp when she revives). She'll still do work, but it's up to you to realize that there is a reason why she isn't S+

[@zzz7476]

really need gladia mod3 and her mod3 to be useful

[@gachivalantine3792]

High rating cause she's the best waifu

[@wintertajima4875]

I dont think anyone would pick kal as healer 😂 she needs her own title.

[@silvioeduardosoaresdonasci3079]

why the lords position did not change? qiubai doenst deserve to be in the sabe ranking than thorns and i say that even when i love her, she deserved a better module

[@Werday-bv7eh]

i am so lucky, i got Wisadel and Logos just free 10 pull hahhhahhaha

[@dr.hasdan]

Am i the only one who thinks ines is not op and s or s+ at best? Texalter, kirin and wisadel should have a tier of their own at this point.

[@alinastc]

logos not being in OP tier is not the play honestly, literally the second strongest operator to date who powercrept pr much every caster archetype with a wide variety of skills for any situation. thats actually insulting

[@Raemundy_Syerhilza]

Whos the number one?

[@mateusschramm]

Why silence is so good? I have her and his heal output is just too low in comparisson with sussurro or ansel (i'm a new f2p doctah)

[@BorneoRain-l1j]

Global healing with her drones. You can place her drones everywhere in the map. Hence you can heal an op far away from silence

[@lnrs]

none of you are correct. gummy should be in op. she alone is the honored one.

[@elysium60]

Hey, new player here for a month, wanna by the top operator transfer permit, whichy unit are top priority pls ?

[@tensky0]

Personally, if you can get the operator to S2, I would recommend these few 1. Typhoon Reasoning : at current meta and for quite a long time in the future. Also she is quite new so she should not be available in shop for quite a long time. She just blasts everything. Her role in this case is damager, bose killer. Reason not to get : If you got Wis'adel. Wisadel can replace her in most cases IMO. 2. Ines Reasoning : If you lacks great Vanguard, this one can't go wrong. Also just her dmg and utility alone should be able to carry u on early game. Reason not to get : U dont prioritize vanguard, Need laneholder, etc 3. Mlynar Reasoning : Mlynar just did soo much dmg. Also, he has some nice utility to taunt global ranged single target enemy. This helps a lot if ur new and havent grasped deployment order yet. Reason not to get: If u already got another solid Boss Killer. Also he will be available in shop soon. 4. Thorns Reasoning: If you desperately need a laneholder + air killer for a lot of cases + solid dps to normal mobs. Though only pick this if ur desperate. Reason not to get : Already available in shop, u just have to wait for the rotation. Note: Shop refers to the yellow certificate shop and rotates every 2 weeks. Good luck

[@Ashntarrot]

@@tensky0 Nice take, I agree on Typhoon and Ines since at E1 they're already very useful for new players, but if you want to prepare for the long run, Mlynar is definitely the safe choice. But otherwise I'd really recommend either Ines or Typhoon, although I'm leaning more to Ines, since she's good for both early and late game. (For Typhoon you'll eventually get access to more boss killer type of ops in late game contents)

[@ひいらぎ-n9d]

What does max character evaluation mean?

[@arifinnoorrasyid8044]

I think it's max lv, max skill mastery, max pot, and ofc max module if that character have module Well in the end just use this for reference, how to use it to the full is up to you fellow doctor

[@sayalint5155]

>summoner (strength proportional to your brain) 😂😂😂

[@shun1705]

Tbf who tf are using operator at E1Lv7?

[@x16miracle]

In my humble opinion, chalter isn't no longer OP at all, atleast compare to what we have today, she can't be in the same tier as logo who imo deserves OP tier, and i think virtuoso could be higher atleast S+ , but thats my view anyways

[@barghest8763]

what happen to arkngiht gamepress?

[@PsuNotPsu]

Should I spark Momo, the crazy nun or Old W ?

[@aabluequeen56]

The nun

[@Rob-pz5vc]

in 50 pulls: 2 logos and 1 wis

[@elkindangen152]

Bp lower than Kroos alt?

[@TheBeginnerviolin]

How medic amiya has rating for e1 s7? It is literally impossible for her to be e1 because e2 amiya is required

[@Molthus]

Integrated strategies

[@yansenprayoga6222]

122 pulls, 4 wisadel 0 logos

[@r-gw2do]

I am going to crash out if you dont put jessica alter in S tier

[@tuannguyenquoc5515]

150 pulls no W

[@ninokurniawan2677]

please make a sheets too

[@gaoaibai6243]

Friendly reminder this is NOT an AFK brainless tierlist. I have Degen and Ling built to M6 and level 90, but I rarely if ever use them as I follow KyoStinV's AFK guides and tbh the majority of AFK guides will NEVER use either of these OPs. Arturia, Eyja Alter, Mudrock and the likes are immensively popular and get used all the times despite not being in OP tier. Late late game AFK players will not be using supposedly gigabusted OPs like Logos, Wis'adel and Chen Alter (especially Chen Alter who zero AFK guide has used for... years now) they are all OP tier OPs, BUT the end game whales would never touch ANY of them because they are just not viable in AFK CQ clears at all. Also if possible CC, IS and regular super hard CQs should all have separate rankings. Rosmontis for example is pretty useless in the majority of contents and is never used in ANY CQ at all, let alone being in S tier... But she immediately becomes busted (aka top 3 OPs in the game) the moment you get the right combos in IS which is really easy tbh. This is just a completely normal example of an OP being completely mediocre normally but with the right conditions... will become top 3 in the game and the singular unit that you can build a whole team and stragety around.

[@Typhanos]

Disclaimer at end of video (probs should be at the start)

[@vsrun1090]

What operators are the most used in afk strategies? Would really appreciate some infos

[@pramanakumalaputra507]

​@@vsrun1090​ Normally, this is what most people use for AFK. ​Eyja S2, Goldenglow S2, Thorns S3, Typhon S2, Blaze S2, Logos S1, Skalter S2, Ifrit S2, Exusiai S3, Shining S2, Nightingale S2, Mountain S2, Eyja Alter S1, Virtuosa S1, Mudrock S2, Hoshiguma S2, Suzuran S2, Lumen S3 Chongyue S3 (needs 5 times activation before AFK) Below this is most likely can be replaced by the same archetype Guardian (Saria S1/S2, Shu S1, etc) Puller (Gladia S1, Rope S1, etc) Pusher (Weedy S1 Shaw S1, etc) Reaper (La Pluma S1, Executor S1) Below this can be used but rarely used compared to other AFK unit or need specific stage to be used Lappland S2, Chen Alter S1, Nearl Alter S1, Ethan S1, Ascalon S1, Manticore S1, Wis'adel S1, Silverash S1/S2, Horn S1, Ines S1, Bagpipe S2, W S2, Ebenholz S2. That's probably all AFK units that I know majority people used. I may miss few operators.

[@Landy_AM]

Nah Logos is also good for afk. His S1 is insane

[@ikhaszan1579]

Bro have personal problem with tsukinogi

[@dejava9999]

What e1 + sl 7 mean?

[@DeathsSins]

elite 1 skill level 7

[@dejava9999]

@DeathsSins oala, tengkyu

[@MasqueRad3e]

​@@DeathsSins and max?

[@tunamayo586]

@@MasqueRad3e mastery 3 on all skills, elite 2 and module lvl 3

[@fatahillahchandra5680]

Bruh tsukinogi got z even she kinda shine on the last cc tho

[@BorneoRain-l1j]

CC is always boss and stage dependant. Tsukinogi shines a bit last cc Simply because people needs reveal invisible

[@SariaAK]

What does Z mean? Specifically looking at Tsukinogi. ..am I coping? I’m probably coping aren’t I?

[@haatsunemiku]

grade z means it's a curse to have her on ur acc... Jk but she genuinely has zero use cases

[@SariaAK]

@@haatsunemiku it’s just funny. I had crazy wisadel luck, getting her, mumu, and 2x Logos in 50 pulls… but my 5 stars were spuria, windflit and tsukinogi lmfao

[@TuấnKiệtLâm-t2h]

Is Ela that strong guys , i have her but im not able to build her yet

[@rizuroth]

shes super strong ,especially with module 3 and she can deploy both range and ground tile if you can unlock her first module

[@TuấnKiệtLâm-t2h]

@@rizuroth thanks bro

[@asuusa4529]

i was getting reed alter T_T

[@jeviesinc9451]

70 pulls got both logos and Wis 😊

[@atsunnes]

chalter in op while logos is only s+? this gotta be a joke rating

[@whitemagus2000]

I do chuckle when someone puts myrtle below saileach or beanstalk below blacknight.

[@D.3.N]

Typhon and Virtuosa deserve OP

[@w_is_waifu9803]

I waited 2 years for W and got Wis 'adel instead

[@w_is_waifu9803]

In 20 pulls

[@Ashntarrot]

@@w_is_waifu9803 get to 200 and you can but W in shop

[@dayronsanchezarias2157]

No way Eyja and Saria are just S, just because theres someone better now doesnt make them worse

[@bravo6going702]

tier list doesnt state just how good a character is in the game, it states how good they are compared to other characters similar to them, thats literally the reason tierlist even exists

[@djsognal]

That is literally what it means lmfao

[@clytievangogh2421]

Bruh... Logos should be OP lol

[@Taishi7472]

30 pulls ❤❤ get Wis and Logos ❤❤

[@celtictheknight]

Silverash S+ while Thorns is S? Ok then lmao.

[@yuus4424]

Silverash makes redeploy faster that makes broken units more broken

[@emperor8840]

​@@yuus4424so worth module lv max?

[@Ceb00la15]

SA just got a really broken module that made his dps comparable to Młynar vs elites/bosses, while also having redeploy time reduction and stealth removing utility.

[@Ceb00la15]

@@emperor8840 Yep, he gets a ton of attack some, arts damage on every attack, increased attack to 115% vs elites and bosses , more redeploy time reduction for himself and units in 8 adjacent tiles and a bit of health too. Absolutely worth it.

[@celtictheknight]

@@Ceb00la15 True, I always forget the redeployment time reducing talent.