Tier Listing My ENTIRE Collection - 2022 Edition

[@edvind9560]

01:00 - Android 03:03 - Fireball Island 03:26 - Lost Cities 04:25 - The Red Dragon Inn 05:22 - Quartermaster General WW2 06:00 - Grifters 06:31 - Throw Throw Burrito 07:37 - Firefly 08:20 -Chinatown 09:45 - Fast & Furious 10:50 - Pandemic & Pandemic Legacy 12:26 - Cards Against Humanity 13:22 - Puppet Masters 14:05 - Descent 14:30 - Last Word 15:50 - How to Rob a Bank 16:56 - Brass: Birmingham 17:37 - Takenoko 18:18 - Sid Meier's Civilization 19:13 - Arkham Horror Card Game 20:20 - The Castles of Burgundy 20:59 - Jumanji 21:53 - Twilight Imperium 4 & Prophecy of Kings 24:47 - Tigris & Euphrates 25:53 - Suburbia 26:44 - Monolith Arena 27:53 - Dominion 28:50 - Eldritch Horror 30:05 - Ticket to Ride 30:25 - Disc Duelers 31:21 - Taboo 31:51 - Dune: A Game of Conquest and Diplomacy 32:44 - Monopoly: Fortnite 33:31 - Monopoly 34:08 - Betrayal at House on the Hill 35:28 - Imperial Settlers: Empires of the North 36:03 - Gaia Project 37:12 - Dune: Imperium 38:43 - Ashes: Reborn 39:35 - Wits & Wagers 39:54 - Mansions of Madness 41:42 - The Godfather 43:00 - Clue: The Great Museum Caper 44:18 - Twilight Imperium 3 45:00 - Great Western Trail 45:53 - Coup 47:15 - Pictomania 48:03 - Incan Gold 48:54 - Cheating Moth 50:30 - The Resistance 51:54 - Cutthroat Caverns 53:11 - Hellapagos 55:00 - Sword Art Online 57:20 - Avocado Smash! 57:43 - Dragonriders 59:12 - Deep Sea Adventure 1:00:00 - San Guo Sha 1:01:52 - Donner Dinner Party 1:02:45 - Once Upon a Time 1:03:41 - Splendor 1:05:06 - King of Tokyo 1:06:41 - Catan 1:07:34 - Hero Quest 1:08:26 - Lords of Waterdeep 1:12:02 - War of the Ring & Star Wars: Rebellion 1:15:30 - Summary

[@Shelfside]

wow, thank you for this! Pinned :)

[@davidk6269]

No collection is complete without SPACE HULK. ; ) Seriously, great to see Daniel and Ashton back together again! ; )

[@sebastienvivas9319]

LORD DANIEL surprise addition to a mega Tier List collection? This day will go glorious.

[@JonSteitzer]

It's 1130 pm, I'm saving this to watch later for tomorrow. Very excited!

[@ThisIDig]

Love how you guys can be so different minded (Cards against Humanity in this vid, for example), then when you agree on a score it really lends credence to the quality of game you're ranking.

[@CuppyCakeKisses]

Your collection has grown. You now have an Ashton-of-games. Please don't have Dan-yell at me for the puns, I can't handle it - I am an S-Tear commenter.

[@Shelfside]

oh gosh... you make me tier-y eyed -Ashton

[@slowmodeproductions]

War of the Ring is the greatest 2p game ever made. The end

[@InXLsisDeo]

Tigris & Euphrates is A tier. Yes it"s a bit abstract, but not more than Brass. And the strategy in this game is awesome, better than most other games. Takenoko, played 3 times and found it boring.

[@AdamJorgensen]

I have all of Eldritch Horror and I think you definitely should try to get your hands on the Cities in Ruin small-box expansion. It really amps everything to 11 :-) Other than that, you have Forsaken Lore which is considered the other must-have. The big boxes expansions are not as worthwhile IMHO, but if you're enjoying Under the Pyramids then that's cool.

[@Shelfside]

thanks for sharing! We'll have to squeeze in more eldritch somewhere :) -Ashton

[@emmanuelrodriguez1693]

Have you played Cthulhu DMD -- Lovecraft universe.. I wonder where you'd stack it next to Eldritch horror

[@Shelfside]

I personally like dmd at around the same level, but I also don't have any expansion content so just base game, unlike Eldritch. I'd imagine that would change if I did pick up more content haha -Daniel

[@LimitxKing]

Highly agree with the rating you gave for CAH, it is the anti-thesis of its goal of being a "funny" game. Apples to apples is way more fun and hilarious because you actually have to be funny to make funny matches.

[@Kriakye2435]

Trying to figure out what board game you guys were talking about around 9:04 (mentioned briefly) for a bit and can't figure it out 😢. Anyways, really fun to hear both yer opinions on a bunch of different board games, keep up the good work!

[@Shelfside]

Aaah, sidereal confluence is the game that is mentioned next to Chinatown! Had to cut that tangent out to keep the runtime shorter. cheers! -Ashton

[@EfrainRiveraJunior]

I also own Fireball Island. It _is_ a kid's game.

[@EfrainRiveraJunior]

Dude, I have and still love, Clue the Great Museum Caper.

[@RageAgainstLP]

For me Star Wars Rebellion was way more easy to teach and play than LotR.

[@kosterix123]

I just searched for and failed finding a game I had sold. DO NOT SELL YOUR BOARD GAMES. Because the fomo is pretty real in this case.

[@Shelfside]

dang. Yeah I'm only getting rid of stuff I'm REALLY sure about, and even to this day I have slight regrets on selling Chaos. Yet that simultaneously makes me really curious about finding a good replacement -Ashton

[@mike9139]

YOU ARE BOTH AWESOME! ❤❤❤

[@EfrainRiveraJunior]

You guys and I have practically identical tastes in board games. I'm surprised that you aren't into Puerto Rico as much as our group.

[@Shelfside]

I played it once in high school and really liked it! Just never had a reason to buy for some reason. Think the theme is really dry for my buds. Cheers! -Ashton

[@cozmicshroomzpro1]

I disagree with so many of the takes here but a fun watch(T&E is borderline perfect to me for example). I really love watching these and the reviews cuz it gives a very clear view of your tastes and this continues that trend. Great work fellas. Would love to see your folks take on Kemet and Cyclades, both dudes on a map games but both feature their themes and allow players to get up to some real cool stuff.

[@Shelfside]

Cheers! Agree that TE is a rreally well made game, just not for me I suppose. We've played Kemet once, perhaps we can get a review out in the future! -Ashton

[@Shelfside]

I personally love kemet lol -Daniel

[@FooserX]

Pretty sure Eclipse second dawn will be in your S tier based off seeing what you like so far!

[@Shelfside]

Daniel certainly loves it! I'm not as warm on it, but still have to try the asymmetry! -Ashton

[@thomascocks9136]

Movie dune definitely deserves some love

[@JezielProdigalSon]

We play Red Dragon Inn at every halloween party. We dress up like our characters, make special drinks for it and make it a real party. Its the only time of the year i play it, but i fukken love it.

[@Shelfside]

Yoooo that's so cool! -Daniel

[@randomobservers8734]

Red dragon inn gets wayyyy better with the newer characters. S for me

[@nuniel8398]

Catan deserves to be ranked higher.

[@nanotyrant]

You can get SanGuoSha in English now as War of the Three Kingdoms by Yoka Games. Only the base game though

[@Shelfside]

well dang. Gotta pick that one up -Ashton

[@EfrainRiveraJunior]

I wonder how Mosaic will fall in your group. I backed the Kickstarter hoping for a Civilization experience.

[@kaeltxwz]

i would love to see a POK updated review after this video! Also, where is blood rage? and in what tier would you put it in?

[@Shelfside]

I actually got rid of blood rage, since I played it SO much and my group isn't too into it here. I would put it at a low B though! -Ashton

[@kaeltxwz]

​ @Shelfside thanks for the answer! any particular reason to put in low B despite the high score the game got?

[@Shelfside]

@@kaeltxwz The recommendation is still a 10/10 for sure! For my B, I actually think I wanted the game to being doing more for its length. After the draft is done, the pillaging mechanics didn't grip me that much over time. And I did get irritated at loki bahaha. -Ashton

[@Orthovandro]

Thanks for the video. Curious as to where you would have put Unfathomable

[@Shelfside]

I'd put it around A tier, it's a game I was ok with at first but has begun growing on me, dunno bout Ashton lol -Daniel

[@DementedDistraction]

Hero Quest is eternally S Tier.

[@Shelfside]

will need to play it again one day :) -Ashton

[@bluebooper]

Would love to see a review of Last Word following that super high ranking !

[@Shelfside]

We actually already did one but it's currently unlisted cause we don't want super low view vids hurting the algorithm unfortunately :( -Daniel

[@bluebooper]

@@Shelfside shieeet you guys should put it on the patreon if it isn't already

[@crinklechips6950]

@@Shelfside that's a shame, it was your video that got me and the gf to buy the game and it's great!

[@Shelfside]

@@crinklechips6950 Super awesome! Yeah the game is so fun, need to play it again :) -Ashton

[@rattenusrattoonus1880]

So sad seeing Arkham Horror The Card Game at D... but its true, the core box only is only a taste of the system, like a demo. Hope you get one full cycle and become one of us one of us!

[@Shelfside]

It's on the chopping block! -Ashton

[@lovetownsend]

I liked the look of puppetmaster, card game/board games are my fav

[@mistuhbear]

oh no - chaos time is back with a vengeance EDIT: bless daniel for bringing a sense of normalcy and organization EDIT2: i'm gonna buy you the english version of sanguosha sometime LOL

[@TheSchaef47]

I like The Resistance but Avalon is better. And since Quest came out I've been kind of drifting toward that

[@Marky_X]

I'll take that Empires of the North off your hands lol

[@Shelfside]

ahaha sure thing Mark :) -Ashton

[@TheVisualante]

Love your vids!

[@Shelfside]

thank you! Can't wait to do this again next year :D -Ashton

[@lyg]

Haha love how the f game got pushed off the table

[@zga042]

where can I hear your thoughts about last word?

[@Shelfside]

we actually unlisted it because a vid with low watchtime hurts the algorithm here. It's on our patreon only as of now :) -Ashton

[@robertthurman9866]

"There aren't many team games" followed by "I don't like coop games"? Coop games are team games!

[@Shelfside]

He be going off intuitive thought lmao But also, I think he wants more 2v2/3v3 games not pure co-op -Daniel

[@williammcneil2045]

isnt there a better firefly game? i recall one with a giant board and tiny spaceships? any one else remember this ?

[@Shelfside]

Yeah I think that one is just called Firefly, something about gathering a crew and keep flying. Didn't ever get to play it, but heard it was a pick up and deliver sandbox-ish. cheers! -ashton

[@grog3514]

Yeah its just firefly. If you haven't seen the show/movie, its a good (if not long) pick up and deliver sandbox game. If you have seen the show, it really is an amazing game. So many games come down to the wire with players risking a rush through reaver territory to try and sneak a win. Its so fun.

[@kingandkongo]

Your channel is s-tier!

[@xxtardelixxable]

Where is Blood Rage?

[@Shelfside]

Alas, I happened to sell it off shortly after my video review, since it wasn't a game I wanted to own anymore (but still down to play when suggested)! -Ashton

[@xxtardelixxable]

@@Shelfside Where would you rate it if you still had it?

[@Shelfside]

@@xxtardelixxable B tier! -Ashton

[@frankle9617]

how come u dont have Inis in your collection?!

[@Shelfside]

never got to play it! One day :) -ashton

[@frankle9617]

@@Shelfside That day is today! go to the store and inta buy it and place it in S-tier!

[@Shelfside]

I liked Inis, but the friend who has it just never brings it out because we always just play Root lol -Daniel

[@DeyaViews]

I'm surprised you STILL haven't gotten rid of your F tier games! You've had those for how many years now?

[@A._J_.]

shoulda forced the groupings to a normal distribution

[@thepattersons2031]

Play terraforming mars!

[@HattoriHanzo74]

Whats the guy doing with his hair all the time ?

[@sinfall5280]

Cards against humanity is just vulgar. Glad to hear you weren't a fan.

[@lcronovt]

And root? :c

[@Shelfside]

ahaha haven't played it in years. Guessing it wouldn't be too high for me :) -Ashton

[@shannonmccure6972]

Good games for teens?

[@ghstrdio]

Yesses

[@AnLieu]

You guys are my fav board game reviewers but I wish Daniel doesn’t swear that often. I sometime listen to your videos while my kids are around and had to turn the vid off because of the swearing.

[@raodvanlaontotaoke4993]

Coup got a 1/10 from me on bgg :P what a bad game.

[@EfrainRiveraJunior]

Jumanji? Really? 🤣

[@Shelfside]

Once you begin... you have to finish... or something like that from robin williams ahaha -Ashton

[@austinvanhaitsma6658]

You guys are great, the high production quality and honest reviews really deserve more attention!

[@Shelfside]

Thanks man! More vids headed your way :) -Ashton

[@xtro9296]

Star Trek Ascendancy is one of my favourite games.

[@northlakeghost]

Such a great, chill watch after work! Love the easy camaraderie between you guys and enjoyed the friendly debate & conversation.

[@curiousintuit]

Do you plan on keeping those really low tier games? I find game space is hard to find so anything less than a C gets given away.

[@robertthurman9866]

if you only have the core Arkham Horror card game it can get predictable quickly. Like Civilization, the expansions are where the magic happens. Next try Carnivale of Horrors. a stand alone scenario. Very difficult but it will demonstrate the flexibility of the system. The Dream Eaters cycle is very interesting. Two teams play four different, interconnected scenarios. One as the scientists monitoring the other team that descends into the Dream World. And of course what happens to one team affects the other team even though they are in a different scenarios. And of course different investigators really make it more interesting. Try one or two of the separate investigator packs.

[@JakeJackPot_]

I agree, most of the problems that were raised about AH were specifically about the weakness of the base game and not getting the depth from that limited scope. Plus he compares it a lot of eldritch horror which they aren't the same style of game.

[@mckeoncrawford9262]

You don't own any of the Eric Lang trilogy or Lacerda huh?

[@williammcneil2045]

have you played pandemic rising tide? i dont like pandemic but i do like that one

[@tencrow3459]

I love watching the tier listing vids, they are so fun and the banter between you two is very interesting. i get the sense that i would love to come and chill with you guys (except you are like tens of thousands of km away lol)

[@bdehora]

Tiering boardgames is such a good idea, especially as the industry gets saturated with new releases. I won't be surprised if it outright replaces Top N lists. 👏👏👏

[@Shelfside]

cheers! Curious to see if something will happen like that too, always enjoyed watching discussion of tier lists -Ashton

[@robertthurman9866]

You guys need to check out Unmatched. About as simple as possible but with complex strategies and every character is completely different. 30 minute playtimes are the usual.

[@Shelfside]

Had this on my radar for while! Will have to bit the bullet and pick it up :) -Ashton

[@robertthurman9866]

@@Shelfside Do check out Vorpal the software used to play Unmatched tournaments online. Expensive and you have to make your own content but it is REALLY simple. A video showed a guy scanning cards in real time and implementing them while playing an on line game. WOW!

[@Shelfside]

@@robertthurman9866 sweet, thank you! -Ashton

[@iphatbass]

I didn't know that there is separate Android game! I only played Android: Netrunner and it's so good! The best card game ever!

[@psiblast005]

Sad that you rated Empires of the North low. Great list nonetheless

[@Shelfside]

I'll have to play it again someday, but definitely didn't grip me hard ona first impression, cheers! -Ashton

[@grog3514]

It's really not that good. You play cards and trigger them. Pretty standard engine builder with a weak rondel. I thought it was dull.

[@IndianaGeologist]

Seeing Arkham Horror, Pandemic, Empires of the North in the D tier is what keeps me from subscribing. I mean I do respect your opinion, I just can't relate to it and therefore how can I interpret your reviews to my interests?

[@Shelfside]

Totally understand. These are just my personal tastes, and in our reviews we definitely try to give an overall (Tentative/Recommender) and a personal score to keep things a little more grounded to you guys. I also hope to be playing more of Arkham Horror LCG in the future and seeing if the score goes up :) Kept that box prime and ready for the newer campaigns! -Ashton

[@picivyvortac2641]

Red dragon in "who's it made for?" Me. It's made for me :)

[@nin_4_me58]

Ashton likes PoK now? Need to update the PoK quick review -KZbin watcher.

[@Shelfside]

I've always liked Pok! Just need to another play to ensure its either 9/10 or 10/10 for me. -Ashton

[@GameBrigade]

Surprised how polar we are in our tier rankings

[@Shelfside]

thanks for sharing! Always curious to see what's next for the collection here :) -Ashton

[@kraziel]

Where the fuck is Gloomhaven? Where is Jaws of the Lion?

[@Shelfside]

These are the games at Ashton's place lol, not my collection -Daniel

[@namephanan]

i really enjoy watching this and have been watching the last few years tier list

[@lovetownsend]

Took a few days but watched this whole thing over lunches lol nice list. What game do u think has hardest learning curve but is most rewarding once understood?

[@Shelfside]

Games that jump to my mind for this are Root and Gloomhaven, but I'm speaking for myself not Ashton (I'm going to guess he might say Gaia Project). Also nice Vash prof pic lol -Daniel

[@lovetownsend]

@@Shelfside Thanks lol Trigun my fav

[@Shelfside]

Hell yeah love and peace all the way -Daniel

[@ianmcclellan7269]

Always fun to watch this change each year. Even more fun to watch your list of patrons grow!!!

[@Shelfside]

thanks! Excited to see how far we'll get next year!!! Here's to more games and more TI4! -Ashton

[@rubyxx6208]

I love watching these kind of videos!

[@Shelfside]

Can't wait to see what we come up with next year! -Ashton

[@metalrock720]

Does Daniel and Ashton have seperate collections? I Know Daniel gave Root and Oath a 10/10 while Ashton gave those much lower so I figure that would be in there. Also interesting to see how my old favorite do age a bit with time and as new board game designs come out. Still really like some originals but have to think more critically as new designs come out

[@Shelfside]

We do have separate collections, which some slight overlap as we constantly just borrow each other's stuff. Like, the copy of Gaia Project here is technically Daniel's ahaha. Really interesting to see how my thoughts on TE have aged, since that game used to be in my top 10! -Ashton

[@manoX1234567]

was waiting 1 year to see brass in S tear 😊

[@Shelfside]

need to play it again! -Ashton

[@shortydancer]

Happy to see you two together again

[@Top10-q4n7k]

waiting for top 2022 edition

[@Shelfside]

username checks out. Will be dropped later this year! -Ashton

[@amiraligh6493]

Heck yea

[@Shelfside]

heck ya!

[@davidt4233]

Get a life guys. Putting 2 games in S tier that take 4-8 hours to play is ridiculous. Putting Arkham LCG in D tier is criminal. No Stonemeir games? C’mon

[@realhumanbeing3599]

chill man

[@HumanBoyYesYes]

@@realhumanbeing3599 realllll human

[@realhumanbeing3599]

@@HumanBoyYesYes hes so angry tho

[@HumanBoyYesYes]

@@realhumanbeing3599 true. Just saw u here and saying hi

[@sebastienvivas9319]

The nerd rage is real hahaha