The Reality TV to Influencer Pipeline | Internet Analysis

[@DoraWinifred]

To add insult to injury about the black woman issue - the producers cut out a conversation Sharon and Kaz (asian and black ladies) had a with the group about how it’s harder to date as a woman of colour. So they LI producers know what they are doing. As a black woman for my mental health I’ve stopped watching, it for reinforces the notion of no matter how I try and look good, I’m not desirable.

[@tiffanyferg]

Wow, disappointed but not surprised!! It’s frustrating that important, deeper conversations are being had but don’t fit the light / silly / drama-focus of the show so they just get cut. I would’ve loved to hear from Sharon and Kaz on that!

[@mpazinambao2938]

If love island isn't careful, it will go the way of victoria's secret. seeing the same type of people gets unbelievably boring and possibly toxic.

[@cashiemartin9195]

as black people the world hates us its a little easier to prosper once we understand

[@mollyhillis1424]

Yet other girls get to talk about how hard it is to find a boy etc because it's SO difficult in the dating scene when you're blonde with blue eyes 🙄

[@mrsgiggles85]

Literally why I stopped watching... for my own mental health

[@dreamweaver1113]

how does great british bake off manage to have better diverse casting than these dating shows?? wild

[@tiffanyferg]

I need a new season of bake off ASAPPPP !!

[@krombopulos_michael]

Because they aren't supposed to all be having sex with each other. The interpersonal relationships in Bake Off are really not that important, so you can have many people of different ages, ethnicities, weights, heights, sexualities, abilities, etc. As long as they can bake pretty well, it doesn't matter. They usually all get along fairly well and are generally polite to each other, but that's not hugely important. On shows like Love Island or other "love" shows, the point is to create drama by having as much sexual tension and jealousy as possible. To facilitate this, all the contestants need to be young, attractive, in good shape, etc. and also horny so the other contestants will be sexually attracted to them. If one person is substantially less conventionally attractive, they won't stand a chance.

[@dreamweaver1113]

@@krombopulos_michael That's true, I guess it's just weird that the camaraderie that comes out of GBBO is technically more of a bug than a feature, but that's what makes the show so special. That all the contestants come from different backgrounds but all have knowledge and love of baking in common. It's a show that's accidentally but unapologetically diverse (definitely not perfect), and maybe reality TV, esp dating shows, need to model after that? Tiffany, please do a GBBO video we need your contribution to the discourse!!!!

[@KarenGonzalez-ez6sh]

@@dreamweaver1113 the diversity and camaraderie between contestants are one of the main reasons I love GBBO. It’s not your usual reality show even compared to other cooking shows. Everyone is so nice to each other (even the judges when critiquing the contestants) that it feels like a breeze of fresh air among the shows you usually caught on tv lately.

[@izzyizv_v]

@@KarenGonzalez-ez6sh I remember being pleasantly surprised when I started watching GBBO. Their camaraderie definitely keeps me invested.

[@sarahsmiles4607]

I almost choked on my water when they referred to the woman in the red bikini as “plus sized” 😱

[@SC-qu8rj]

iirc she’s very tall

[@zr_1234]

She is plus sized though????

[@ReyBeltane]

She might be UK plus sized. The plus sized models (on fast fashion sites especially) start at a size UK 12/14 sometimes, which is a US 8/10.

[@ReyBeltane]

@q I live in the UK as well. There have been loads of articles/controversies lately about the plus sizes in brands like Boohoo starting lower recently. I'm not saying that she or a 14 SHOULD be plus sized, though. Women's sizing is a general mess anyway. I don't really know anyone who's a consistent size throughout all shops.

[@hannahb6471]

She's tall AND she got that body shape from surgery so all LI implied from her casting was taller people generally have larger frames (thanks for the biology reminder) and curves are only good enough for the show if they are man-made because a totally flat stomach and slim legs with big hips and bum are what they want.

[@jess82384]

Speaking as a Black person in the UK, for me it's never been the 'number' of ethnically diverse contestants, but more about 'who' they represent. E.g. A Black person on love island means nothing to the Black community if they are an individual that don't support the community themselves, have made negative comments about the community, or reinforce negative stereotypes. It becomes tokenism. People want to see contestants that reflect them in terms of race, class, values, geography, careers, upbringing, etc.

[@tiffanyferg]

Yes that’s a great point! ❤️

[@1stdaughter]

"reinforce negative stereotype"... In the context of these shows, that notion often gets tied into bullshit respectability politics. Miss me with that. A Black person on Love Island means nothing *to the producers of Love Island*. There's no other option for them except tokenism. I don't understand what draws non-white people to watch/participate on these shows, especially non-white women, but to say they are meaningless to their own coummunity is to devalue and dehumanize them.

[@shawklan27]

Well said

[@honeyst6133]

True but the black community is not a monolith

[@angielorenza3503]

Agreed black contestants esp black women are not allowed to make mistakes as the bc are quick to turn their back on them. Also a black contestant that exists outside a particular mould of blackness is also ostracized and stripped of their blackness. Definitely agree that it is dehumanising.

[@cortney3798]

Paris Hilton’s voice changes soo much when she’s in character. It blows my mind that dumbing oneself down makes them more desirable

[@svetlana9369]

Misogyny 🌈

[@megan7506]

The Bachelor/Bachelorette is my guilty pleasure but you can’t tell me these people don’t go on for the exposure, Instagram followers, and lifestyle they hope to obtain from being on the show as opposed to finding love.

[@Flo_etic]

Every season there’s the dramatic moment when the bachelor/bachelorette finds out that there is someone there who went on to have a bigger platform and I’m always like.... what did you expect?

[@megan7506]

@@Flo_etic right! If someone REALLY wants to find love - there’s dating apps, friends of friends, work, etc. like I don’t think the Bachelor or Bachelorette is someone’s best bet of finding actual love.

[@dentalfloss3930]

100000%

[@lyndsay9137]

Come into the Pit!! The Game of Roses podcast theorizes that everyone on Bachelor/ette is there for an Instagram following and they follow along with the show/their online activity and report on it like a sporting event. It's eye-opening and tbh made the show even better for me.

[@choicethetaurus]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/opDHc6l9had6oKM

[@katien.3946]

With the lack of body type diversity and Love Island Stars saying they want “different personalities and careers”, at least half of the men there are personal trainers because their body types are not usually found in or are attainable for normal people! It just shows that a large majority of their care when casting goes to how people look.

[@theaterislife]

The "different careers" made me laugh out loud. Every cast is like: model, trainer, trainer, model, model, and oooh a pharmacist! (...who is also a model)

[@NeoNovastar]

YES the lack of body diversity for the men is also insane. While I personally believe the skinny girl body is more dangerous (encourages starving and dangerous dieting practices in some cases), the EDs and pressure men experience from this "perfect" figure presented to them is extremely dangerous as well. I said that terribly but i hope the meaning carries ^^;

[@stacie1595]

@@NeoNovastar yes! The guys all have to be tall and buff. If they are 5'8" or shorter, they get bullied. If they are on the thin side, they get bullied. If they don't have perfect teeth, they get bullied. It's actually so sad!

[@baatile]

Love Island South AFRICA only cast one black person until people complained. Yep, South Africa is in Africa and it is 80% black people. 🤣

[@tiffanyferg]

Omg that is outrageous!

[@Jonunu1607]

😦 I just wanna know what goes on in these production houses? Where is the voice of reason. Not even a black intern going “guys… have we thought this through?”

[@IlikepurpleXP]

How the f...

[@kennyb1588]

Wait seriously? The population is 80% black for some reason in the u.s there’s a notion that the population in South Africa is Atleast 50% white

[@therealmotherfvther]

@Lili Applauds 😭😂😂😂Not you sneaking in the people who want to start their own country

[@niamhworrell3334]

Literally opened KZbin and said “I need a pretty long video that I can watch while I clean my room” *THANK YOU TIFFANY*

[@MrZestyOnion]

I had the exact same experience just with putting together some new furniture, my patio is looking lit thank u tiffany 🙏🙏

[@imogenlucy1561]

This was me last night!!

[@tiffany.Elizabeth.]

Lol. That’s what I’m always looking for. Living alone and listening to KZbin

[@kennedytegan4024]

finally I've been waiting for someone to talk about this. it's why there are so many girls in their early twenties (20-25) that go on the bachelor: they aint looking for love, they looking for a fashion nova partnership!

[@tacrewgirl]

Laughing so hard

[@sophiagonzales8974]

Surprised on that

[@ksenijas1783]

Good for them tbh. Reality TV sounds like a horrible place for love

[@miraann3997]

Who doesn’t see that

[@theeladyj]

🤣🤣🤣

[@thatjillgirl]

I'm still so shocked that the Bachelor franchise makes the contestants provide their own clothes. I had always assumed that rose ceremony clothes at the very least were provided by the show. It would make so much more sense for them to partner with a brand and have a selection of outfits for the contestants to choose from. It's mind-boggling to me that people have to spend so much to be on the show.

[@welpppppppppppppp]

aftercare has been a really stark need to be addressed for reality tv. i was a huge fan of the japanese reality show terrace house, and i have never seen a fan community pull away from a franchise so quickly when a housemate from the last season in 2020 passed away. she had been cast as a villain in a way that is MUCH more mundane than hyperbolic american/UK series but the resulting online harassment literally killed her. apparently there were absolutely no supports or moderation for the cast and even the producers felt no obligation to monitor their mental health. it’s a huge tragedy and i do at least feel grateful for the fans who poured out with love and care and memorials for hana. and starting larger conversations about colourism/racism/mental health stigma that contributed to the situation.

[@lesiaartymovych9184]

I was searching for this comment. Hana’s story is heartbreaking. And it exposed all the darkness of the previous seasons too.

[@palladium607]

No one else is responsible for someone else's mental health.

[@eesrtdyfu6y54]

Sadly this is not a new problem whatsoever, it's just never talked about. The first ever person voted out on the original Survivor (the Swedish "Expedition Robinson") "passed away" too, and that did not stop it from being a international mega hit.

[@kaliland9296]

Apparently the producers wanted her to slap the guy across the face and she felt uncomfortable with this and ultimately just knocked his hat off so they could all just move on. It’s so unfair what happened to Hana. I’d always thought terrace house was so wholesome too.

[@railguncat7751]

@@palladium607 If you harrass someone, you're responsible for their mental health. If you put them on a TV show where you create drama and misrepresent them and cause them a source of a stress and harassment, you are also responsible for their mental health. And if you watch the program uncritically and allow them to do so, you are now a part of the people responsible for someone's mental health. How can you even watch this channel and not understand that?

[@TownofTawiah]

Not three of the most bland Love Island contestants saying personality trumps diversity in the hiring process 🤣 I'm glad that you shared that clip of them exposing their own biases. Also, thank you so much for the shout out!! 🥰 great video as always :)

[@mrs.potatohead8471]

I love your channel! ❤

[@TownofTawiah]

@@mrs.potatohead8471 thank youu!! 💖

[@strawbemoji]

LOL LITERALLY! Laura is still one of my least favorite islanders of all time.

[@kaliland9296]

It’s disappointing how these shows encourage women to promote themselves to men, but the second they try to promote themselves for their own sake, they “aren’t doing it for the right reasons”.

[@amentrison2794]

Agreed, but just a note that it's not just the women who are treated that way. Men get also get the backlash in universe in the Bachelorette for being there to promote their music/alcohol brands/etc.

[@angelicaguerino]

Yesss!!! Thank you so much for expressing and highlighting my issue with the bachelor and similarly designed shows that I’m not even sure if I consciously fully understood (or remembered).

[@lilichong7941]

I can’t believe how utterly cringe worthy the clip from the Love Island interview about body diversity was 🤢🤢

[@madabouthollyoaks411]

Right?? Why did they say that?? Do they mean there are no fat people with “good” personalities💀💀💀

[@madabouthollyoaks411]

Alexandra Utschig bruh!! As if those three sitting there were the most interesting people in the world ! They were so Damn boring my goodness I’m so friggin annoyed I want to find the video and see what the comments say lol

[@stacie1595]

The lack of diversity is downright offensive! Not only in body types either. How many Asian or Latinx people have ever been on these shows? And if there are, its women. The men are all cartoonishly the exact same, copy paste!

[@portigoza]

yall expecting too much from very shallow people. I was not surprised about their responses. It checked out.

[@chickenfoot2423]

@@portigoza yeah but i think what surprised people is that they didnt even PRETEND to care. as influencers who built their platform through relatability and at least some degree of likability, it was so weird to watch them flail about in the interview to defend the show, despite past contestants usually being more open to criticising the creators

[@Assassin-qv9mo]

South Asians are the largest ethnic group living in the UK. We rarely see any Asians on the show (I’m talking about the whole of Asia not just South Asia). I mean think about how many Asian men you see on the show. This lack of representation perpetuates the idea that white people are the most attractive and people of colour just are not good enough.

[@Kizzabell]

There are lots of black people on the UK one. Though I noticed most of the girls are blonde and look almost the same.

[@annitab7062]

@@Kizzabell But even when you analyse it..... are there lots of black people on it or is it moreso that there's lots of black men. For example at the moment there's two fully black guys and 1 mixed guy. And in the past few seasons, it seems that the producers don't mind filling the villa with black or mixed with black men, meanwhile there seems to be a limit to the amount of black women and tbh WOC in general in the villa at one time. Seems there can only be a max of 2 and ideally just one at a time.

[@strawbemoji]

The Asian islanders are always treated poorly, too. And almost always booted out super quickly. It's bananas!

[@AJ-nd4nk]

Because South asians in the UK are more focused on their education and finances. They're smart enough to know these type of shows are not for them.

[@priyadarshinigoswami513]

Oh absolutely. Very little of these discourses on inclusivity and diversity/racial inclusion ever speaks about South asians as Poc.

[@silverw9190]

Did anyone else gasp when she said fiancé?!?! Congrats Tiff

[@svenya203]

Here in London, you see ads on the street for "Love Island Bum Lifts" It's terrifying how big of an impact the show has had on real life beauty standards!

[@eleanorbassett5536]

The Bachelor's "right reason" to go on also opens up a pandoras box of purity/heteronormative romance culture in the media.... one true love, proposal, marriage, children etc. all on a timeline while relatively young

[@emismith4655]

Don’t really appreciate the idea that proposal and marriage is heteronormative buddy

[@eleanorbassett5536]

Ahhhh not what I meant! Ofc I know that it’s not Heteronormative, but in this narrative context the connotation is with a socially constructed ‘normal’…..

[@krombopulos_michael]

In a way, "influencer" is kind of just a newer version of what reality TV stars always were. It's usually someone who is conventionally attractive and who is giving a sort of voyeuristic pseudo-real look into their own life, generally without demonstrating any particular talents or skills beyond people finding them vaguely likable or interesting. It's no surprise that most end up doing this these days.

[@lauradove3236]

Rick and Morty fans are here 😍

[@katie-allen]

Love how Tiffany says “wellness” with so much shade at 6:51. She is NOT having it from them lol

[@nailswithkams]

You don’t understand how much I love your internet analysis series

[@TemiDansoArt]

So happy to see clips from my faves, Ada on Demand and Adella Afadi in this video!❤️

[@nicbell8090]

Seeing this comment feels like Jimmy/Timmy power hour lol. Two totally different channels I love, I sometimes forget we all use the same KZbin

[@alexandraogilvie2168]

Your last video about teeth got me to see a dentist for the first time in years and I’m getting a crown this morning! Thanks Tiffany 🙏

[@mpazinambao2938]

I believe Paris deserves the title, I've seen enough to know that she knew exactly what she was doing.

[@mrrabia1]

Do you mean Paris Hilton?

[@venus3173]

same

[@mpazinambao2938]

@@mrrabia1 yes, lol I forgot there are other people with that name. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gl7IqZlre7WSiq8, she knew what she was doing...she knew.

[@Ash2theB]

Yep especially with her documentary highlights this. The first selfie documented on camera.

[@audreyt6745]

I was looking for this comment. After watching her documentary I think that she is way underestimated by everyone and even Tiffany here.

[@jess82384]

This year's Love Island is definitely the worst. Something about the cast is just... off. The previous series have had genuinely likeable contestants, but this year it's painfully aware that the contestants are aware of the camera's and the fact that they are on TV. It's also been the least watched series. In my opinion, the show's peak was Amber, Kem, Chris, and Olivia's year (2017) - it felt genuine (even if it wasn't).

[@jadechaya9025]

I find it fascinating despite not loving the contestants this year. I take enjoyment out of trying to decide who's there for the exposure but is accidently falling for someone. Like I don't think Toby planned on taking anyone seriously, but he fell for Chloe.

[@jess82384]

@@jadechaya9025 yep 100%. He’s way too young and chaotic to have had a ‘game plan’ before coming in LOL

[@vuyiswa-fumba]

I couldn't get through the first episode this year and I used to be a genuine fan

[@RoKer13]

The first episode felt so dead. Love Island (US) actually is a little better to me now lol

[@oliviab3535]

Also with Too not to handle! They were too aware they were on tv and it was painful

[@poniesandproteins]

For those that are interested in this topic, I would recommend the book HYPE by Gabrielle Bluestone, she has a whole chapter with numbers and case studies about how sustainable the post-reality TV social media fame really is, focusing on how well they are able to maintain the followings and sponsorships.

[@tacrewgirl]

Thanks for the book rec

[@tiffanyferg]

Oooh thank you!

[@unfabulous912]

Woah just had to pause and comment after seeing that clip of LI cast discussing calls for more diversity on the show. Honestly outrageous! The show is notoriously bad at representing different bodies, ethnicities and to say it's about ~~personality~~ is such a cop out!! Like people with bigger bodies or disabilities or of different skin colours don't have interesting personalities??!! Wow. Thanks for this vid btw, as someone from the UK, LI destroys my self esteem a little more every day and yet I tell myself I have to tune on simply to keep up with the memes if nothing else 😅😅😅

[@noodles1291]

Ofc the cast wouldn’t want other body types, they want people that look like them and people they’re attractive to

[@nia-yl7lq]

Why would we expect them to have some in depth analysis of diversity. I’m even embarrassed I had expected more. They will continue to stay in their bubbles as young white people. The most the blonde (forgot her name, i scrubbed any and all seasons I watched from my brain) can talk about is how she was clowned for her age, so ageism (even though 30 at the time isn’t old). Their negligence and the fact that the interviewer thought to ask that question, although I give him props, they are far from the right people to ask as they benefit the most from the lack of diversity.

[@unfabulous912]

@@nia-yl7lq you're so right, also embarrassed I expected more from them tbh

[@i_Ambrose]

@@noodles1291 there's attractive big people. Just find different body types that are attractive. Then find people who are attracted to many different body types. Done

[@mekko902]

@@i_Ambrose I also love the idea of some f*boi islander being totally taken aback when he realizes...wait, this chick has the perfect personality and is also is sexy despite not being the size I imagined? Would love that story line.

[@katie-allen]

Wow love how that interviewer was really trying to ask the love island cast good questions about body diversity and they was just straight up like “no we don’t need it 😘✌️🥰” The absolute lack of effort they put into hiding their true feelings was BOLD rip

[@BrandiForr]

Wow thank you for featuring my video!!! I was just casually watching your video and saw my video, I literally screamed😭❤️❤️

[@tiffanyferg]

hi Brandi!! appreciated your insights

[@katie-allen]

This is so interesting. I wonder if this is why so few bachelor couples ever stay together long term, because going on a “finding love” show has just become a way to become an influencer. The actual “purpose” of these shows has become a completely secondary motivation.

[@mollyjenkins1039]

also they're under contract--if they break off their engagement before 2 years they have to give back the ring

[@amentrison2794]

I'm sure that's absolutely a big factor, but even if finding love truly was everyone's goal, the setup of choosing your life partner after you've only know them for like 3 months isn't a recipe for success in the first place.

[@katie-allen]

@@amentrison2794 haha that’s true too! Though it would probably be better if it was like away from cameras and people were genuinely having to connect with people through overcoming difficult scenarios or something like that. But obviously these shows aren’t about that

[@AdellaAfadi]

Thanks so much for the mention. I’ve been loving your internet analysis videos 😍

[@tiffanyferg]

love your videos!!

[@yasmeenm6435]

I’m OBESESSED with your Bernie Sanders prayer candle

[@yasmeenm6435]

@oaktree_ Candles do not belong to the catholic religion…

[@sayingoodbye4]

I've just realized something funny. We watch people on reality shows who later on decide to leave the celebrity life and end up doing any other regular job and we see this as a sign of failure. They might have just grown tired of it all.

[@anyone1111]

I can’t imagine people *not* growing tired of living a celebrity/influencer lifestyle. I mean having a regular job would probably be more beneficial for people who would be tired of the spotlight- of growing unwanted attention and all of that I’m sure would be hard to deal with on a day-to-day basis. And it shouldn’t be taken as a sign of failure but more so as growth, not just becoming an influencer. Not that being an influencer is bad but that they grow out of it out of that expectation of becoming an influencer. I don’t know if this made sense sorry!!🥺

[@lordessgoosecool]

Okay hear me out, and know I think that more body diversity SHOULD be implemented in these dating shows. That being said, these shows are some of the purest representations of the beauty standard that exist on television today. The plot is the exercise and celebration of the beauty standard (including its sub-genres of colorism, fatphobia, racism, ableism and so on). It relies on getting a bunch of "attractive" people together where they will all view each other as potential partners (increasing drama) because everyone meets the same beauty ideal. Right now, integrating body diversity would probably tokenize the plus-sized/disabled cast members, or depict a narrative of rejection/social isolation. The only way I see this not happening would be to get rid of the entire premise of the show being about "hot people dating hot people," but-- because these shows are ultimately just exercises of the beauty standard-- that would mean having to abolish the beauty ideal in the first place. Otherwise the "diverse" cast would be cordoned off to a "special season" (likely recieving less money in marketing, less views, and therefore likely being canceled) like what happened with the queer season of Are You the One. Even on that season of AYTO, the more visibly queer people were sidelined for the more "mainstream attractive" people. These shows are an artifact of the beauty standard, not the other way around. Reality TV is a reflection, not a creation.

[@tiffanyferg]

Very true!! Many of my criticisms tend to be central to the basic premise of the show(s) so it’s hard to imagine, even if they tried to address those problems, could it be possible or successful under the same premise, which as you mentioned, rests upon the narrow beauty standard? Lmao run on sentence as hell! My next idea would be ok we need new shows with better premises, more inclusion, more intention… but maybe subjecting people to everything involved with reality tv just shouldn’t be the goal anyway? Hahaha I get so lost in this topic, there’s so much to it

[@possum1238]

generally calling disabled people “differently abled” is patronizing and insulting

[@lordessgoosecool]

@@possum1238 Sorry, didnt know! I'll change and thanks for the heads up.

[@littleanina1]

100%. The premise is that everyone can be attracted to everyone, and as they only have days to build “relationships” its all very shallow and superficial, basically just “who do I find most attractive and bearable” - so imo theres not space for people outside of the generic beauty standard, as they would just be so hurt about not being picked etc. We already see it now with colorism and racism.

[@natatatt]

I agree. As someone who doesn't meet the beauty standard set by these shows, I would be very wary of casting plus-size or disabled. Not that such people shouldn't have a chance to be on these shows (they absolutely should), but I would expect to just see confirmation of people like me being rejected by other contestants for not meeting the beauty standard.

[@darcybhaiwala7057]

Another example of this are the Dance Moms and Toddlers & Tiaras kids who end up making bank on KZbin, IG and VSCO. On one hand, it's redeeming to be able to control your own narrative instead of being subject to the whims of catty parents or exploitative producers, but on the other hand it further entrenches these kids in a system that builds their worth on their appearance

[@daisymay156]

I feel like this is potentially even worse for those children, because social media sites don't have the same protection that traditional performance industries do for child workers (and those laws are flawed anyway)

[@KariTalks]

My husband and I talk about this all the time. We love trash tv, our favorite being Jersey Shore and now Jersey Shore Family Vacation. We talk about the difference of how people acted in 2009 where social media was no where near as influential. Old reality tv show were messier because their only fame is coming from the tv show. Now people are clout chasing and thinking about their brand.

[@tacrewgirl]

Good point on how social media has affected reality TV show drama

[@mollyhillis1424]

the last "real" season of Love Island UK was the Olivia, Kem and Amber season because none of them went in thinking they were going to get the PLT brand deal. SO boring now everyone is the same and literally none of them have personalities.

[@j4yp4rr4]

Agreed! I feel like the larger the brand deals coming out of the villa, the less genuine new castings will be as they sign up solely to chase the bag regardless of when they get booted off

[@kimberleywilliams7802]

Not you saying Kaz has no personality? Am I the only one watching the unreleased bits? Y'all need to watch ur because it shows the contestants personality astronomically.

[@mollyhillis1424]

@@kimberleywilliams7802 ​ definitely some personalities in there it's just the faye and the liam types that kill me off. I miss hurricane Liv and the cute moments with the girls about life outside the villa. It's all about what boy this and what boy that now. It's a shame 98% of them are so boring. I didn't watch this season, but my sister says she loves Kaz and honestly some bits I have seen I do think she's great it's just other people that ruin it :( xx

[@kimberleywilliams7802]

@@mollyhillis1424 I definitely get that, I just don't like the tension and toxic vibes Faye created in there with her awful behaviour, and then I just can't look at Liam and Millie the same after all that Casa drama.

[@kefilwesebolai1007]

This year we had our 1st season of Love Island South Africa, and there was a lot of uproar about the lack of diversity in casting, they initially set the show up to be majority white, but because of the backlash they had to cast the POC"S they rejected during the casting process.

[@TheAfroGoddess]

South Africans using "POC" 😭😫🤣

[@emiscommentingaccount96]

​@@TheAfroGoddess Ikr; it's kinda cringe 😂

[@littleanina1]

I also think there shouldn’t be more diverse body types because tbh as a fat person myself, and even if I was just slightly fatter than the average woman there I’d never want to participate and would never want any fat person to participate there. Its just a shallow show with shallow people in shallow relationships, and thats all it can ever be. The whole concept is based on that. Its just not meant for “average” people, otherwise theyd have to make into something else imo.

[@madelineo4128]

Yikes the Love Island body diversity interview clip reminded me of when I was touring a super rich and white private college in Ohio and someone asked the student panel about diversity. A white guy responded yeah we have a ton of geographic diversity. He was talking about having people from different states.

[@anyone1111]

Omg pfft😂 geographically diverse! Sorry but like HUH!? I don’t think that what the person who asked the question meant, welp😅

[@llmeekos]

Was it Otterbein? LMAO

[@karacoconutag]

Even reality tv shows that involve contestants showcasing their crafts/talents for a cash prize (RuPaul's Drag Race, Great British Bake off, Glow Up, etc.), it's always more than just the prize and title. You can get more bookings/get signed in whatever your field is, sponsorships, followers, fans, etc. It can be a real career booster for those who already have a career (opposed to love island contestants who may have not had influencer "careers" prior to the show.)

[@cassandraaeh]

I actually hate this kind of television, so I don’t watch any of it and never really have. But I still came and watched this 40-minute video because I like your content overall. I won’t say you’ve convinced me to watch this stuff, but the approach to the topic was new and interesting and I appreciated it

[@MariAS-ym1qs]

The show NEEDS to partner with Renttherunway (or whatever their equivalent is in the UK). The whole structure just seems so perfect for fancy gown rentals.

[@kaylabuasod]

I thought you might touch upon Hana Kimura from the reality show Terrace House. She completed suicide after facing immediate and extreme backlash for her role on the show. Her story goes to show that this problem persists across all genres of reality tv, not exclusively on dating shows. Unlike Love Island, the show was blamed in part for her suicide, and was canceled mid-season before her full storyline even played out on Netflix. Great job on this deep dive. I really enjoyed your take on things. I haven't watched love island, but I think seeing your video beforehand will let me go into it with a different mindset when I finally do watch it.

[@baatile]

That clip proves that there’s no diversity in intelligence on Love Island.

[@soyclown5650]

gurl 😭😂💀

[@skelet0r23]

when this one chick said something about diversity of personality being more important i lost it 🥲🤣

[@a.sydney5036]

I think they are correct. The purpose of the show was never to showcase diversity. Like the dude said, young beautiful people, sitting by the pool, coupling up. It's a show based on looks. And Young men are are generally into skinny white women...even black men.

[@a1ntcry1noveru]

@@a.sydney5036 yeah, because only skinny white women are young and beautiful 🙄

[@isabellab.1875]

Don't forget the plus size model that's a totally normal, healthy body type LMFAO

[@littleanina1]

What I find the most problematic is what kinda bulls*** they shill afterwards. Everyone sells the same crap, weightloss teas, cheap clothing, weird shakes etc. Thats what bothers me much more.

[@user-qy6ce8vk6x]

I’m so excited to see someone talking about this! There was a 90 day fiancé cast member too (I just saw the title and clicked so if this is brought up my bad) who came out and said that when she didnt want to do the show anymore the crew she was working with (I think a producer?) kept telling her things along the lines of “but think of all the followers you’re going to get after this and how much money you’ll be able to make with cameo” it’s in an interview that she did somewhere on KZbin. I take it with a grain of salt but I’m inclined to believe there’s some truth to it just given how they all either become influencers or were already influencers who went on the show to grow their fan base so it’s almost like everyone just forgot what the show was about!

[@LauraDeFeh]

Gonna watch this tomorrow, but if it's not already mentioned then I believe Alex George is that one person who came out of reality tv show and actually contributed to the society in a majorly positive way and Love Island is what gave him the "voice" to do it. Also I just recently listened to a podcast he was on, and he said that immediately after coming back from the show he went to see a therapist, even tho you know, nothing was seemingly wrong yet, but he did it to almost "prepare" for what's to come as one's life completely changes after smth like that. I think he said he went from 200 ig followers to 1M in 9 weeks. So that seems like a good idea for everyone who has gone through smth like this.

[@scler8453]

Yeah! Although the guy made questionable choices in the villa, (and I don’t for a second believe he was actually looking for love, he always wanted to be a social media doctor) he really has made the most out of his opportunity, and has contributed a lot to society :)

[@gracee7017]

I would love to see an internet analysis episode about doctor/medical influencers and the risks that go along with them having audiences. Like doctors boiling down medical information to the length of a tick tok without context, promoting products to their audience as a medical professional, reacting to viral videos about medical mysteries and five minute craft style “remedies” and giving them legitimacy without context, research, etc.

[@NoeliaGenov]

The Challenge is my go-to reality tv show recently. Its refreshing seeing people be openly vendettas and backstab people to get to the money. Its awesome and I think they deserve some benefits after putting their bodies and mental state through all that. love this video and ur content lately!

[@shelby9510]

I binged watch 4 season of the challenge in a week. Its crazy to see how the challenge first started to what it is today.

[@evelyn_uchiha]

Yep! So good

[@lola.odetola]

my mouth was gaping when you pulled the clip of the islanders speaking about how unimportant diversity is on the show like… no shame whatsoever 😂

[@melissamartin-chouinard6507]

I found your channel yesterday and i am so happy the algorithm finally blessed my life with you

[@madabouthollyoaks411]

You should compare and contrast UK and US cause the latter at least in S2 has so much more diversity and the POC are definitely much more main characters. There were at least 3(!!) black women this season and their drama was much more the same as anyone else’s and less about not finding someone who actually liked them. They also had a British Indian woman, something LI UK with its massive Indian population somehow hasn’t managed to do ...

[@Smita-Says]

We had Shannon Singh who’s dad is Indian and Mom is Scottish white but she was in there for 2 days 🙃🙃

[@madabouthollyoaks411]

Smita Jalaf yeah and so we can barely count her :( that was not a nice twist at all idk what it accomplished

[@Smita-Says]

@@madabouthollyoaks411 it was awful. Nobody leaves till after 5 days. I really wanted to see her in there. Also there are a lot of young Indian influencers or just people on tiktok who would fit the show so I hope we see more

[@imani0nline]

Reality tv is a big guilty pleasure of mine, something about being able to tune out the real world and tune into this pseudo real world can be comforting. However as consumers I think we have a responsibility to try and hold these producers and show runners accountable and trying to make sure we don’t support shows that are based on the emotional explanation of these people.

[@lsmmoore1]

About the "pretending not to do things to be famous" thing: Olympic female gymnasts are also expected to pretend this, to be all chirpy and like "Oh I just want to go and do my routines!!!". Naturally, Simone Biles subverted that along with the other things she's subverted, by blatantly and irreverently referring to the fact that she broke records, and jokingly bragging about being "the GOAT" in much the same way Muhammad Ali used to jokingly brag about being the greatest of all time. Because really, there are plenty of recreational gymnasts/parkour practitioners out there, and it's kind of silly, as an Olympic gymnast, pretending that you aren't going for gold medals and the fame that goes with them (and equally silly to assume that someone cannot back out on that and bench themselves if it's not their day because an athlete doesn't owe a country a medal, because athletes win medals so they themselves can be the winner, after all, and the consequence is - not getting the medal and not being that particular day's winner).

[@mysaria7641]

yes 👏👏👏 let’s stop pretending

[@ArryS1600]

I’m writing my university dissertation on a similar topic revolving around dating reality tv shows, specifically the vilification of contestants on this type of show, so this came at a perfect time while my mind is in this mode, incredible vid x

[@stephanieme07]

as someone who’s working in casting it’s so interesting to here peoples take! Keep the convos going.

[@RachelFroehlichfarms]

The "right reasons" part I've thought about a lot because my friend was recently on the show married at first sight (New Orleans season) and she got a lot of slack for being on the show for the 'wrong reasons' because she said during the show that she applied because it seemed like a fun and silly thing to do. People online for sure roasted her after she said that saying that she should take the show more seriously and such...it was really ridiculous as an outsider to reality tv (ie me) to hear those things being said

[@court6389]

i’m SO glad you made this video because i watch love island UK every single season and i think about this topic every single time, how becoming an influencer is a much bigger prize than the $50K

[@caelanconrad]

Thank you so much for the shoutout! OMG. Absolutely floored that you like my channel!!? Love what you do too! 💕💕💕

[@denia752]

17:19 I didn't know that contestants are not paid for their presence at these realities in the UK! In Greece, on realities like Next top model or Bachelor, they get paid by the week starting from the range of 200euros to 1000 a week. If we talk about Survivor, they get paid even more, from 1000 a week if you are a not known person to 4000euros if you are a celebrity. 😏

[@noy6291]

Would love to see you cover Drag Race as part of your reality show exploration

[@katherinemorelle7115]

If you haven’t seen it, Sarah Z has a great video on Drag Race.

[@noy6291]

@@katherinemorelle7115Already did long ago and I would love for Tiffany to add to the conversation

[@sheridensmith]

Bestie Tiffany... you really did it to em' with this! You always deliver the most thoughtful, insightful and well ~researched~ topics!

[@tiffanyferg]

coming through with the comment for the algorithm, bless u!! 🥰

[@sheridensmith]

@@tiffanyferg she likes, she subscribes, she hits that notification bell, she comments in the comment section below

[@katie-allen]

Tiffany posting internet analysis is keeping me alive

[@xx-wp2kx]

I really enjoyed watching this, you can definitely see as the seasons go on the contestants change in goals. One of the old contestants also Dr Alex George from 2019 is half and half with his old life and new life - still a doctor but also an influencer advocating for mental health and appointed Youth Mental Health Ambassador for the Government. He also worked through Covid as an A&E doctor, he is an amazing example of a reality star using his influence for good.

[@mere.spencer]

i don't know if anyone will care, but Molly Mae just announced that she's the new creative director for pretty little thing, so she went from the "reality tv to influencer pipeline", to the "influencer to business woman pipeline"

[@Kelgore]

Omg for the first time in my LIFE I have been watching reality tv and sometimes after the season ends I look them up & its WILDDDD. So ready for this video!! Let’s go

[@tiffanyferg]

Right!! I try not to spoil anything but as soon as a cast member is eliminated I RUNNN to their Instagram lmao

[@Kelgore]

@@tiffanyferg I recently watched Are You The One & there’s a couple who got married & had kids and I looked at their Instagram and they seem happy but the wife is almost unrecognizable she looks… much different now. Kind of weird to see!

[@Bunny-qm9ns]

Diversity isn’t even the bare minimum , inclusivity is.

[@atelierofwitchhat]

That first patron you mentioned-I see that emoticon on Mina Le’s list of patrons at the end of her videos and always thought it was just a decoration 😂

[@tiffanyferg]

this anonymous patron has taste!! 💞

[@TigrisAquino]

This video is amazing, but also thank you so much for shouting out smaller channels! KZbin makes it Insanely hard to find new channels, I find myself in a loop of the same 5 people suggested over and over!! Please, never stop doing it!! Also, love your channel and content!

[@piscesmoon6333]

loving the super in depth videos you post! this is a nice follow up to the more serious teeth discussion. sending love and light to all♥️💫

[@Basttett]

Mtv's the challenge is a great example of mixing contestants from all different shows. With the latest season, we have people from Mtv shows but also Big Brother, survivor, Love Island, and lots more including international shows and international cast members. There's also an old contestant of the Challenge, Sarah Rice, who used her winnings to get a PhD in family therapy and is focusing on post-reality tv therapy!

[@AstralProjectress]

Sure, but this season all the black contestants were voted off early in this season s37(spies, lies & allies).

[@kimberleywilliams7802]

Can we also talk about how the characters of colour have been treated by the public? And the inactivity on production's part to protect these contestants? This season alone has not only seen the assassination of Kaz's character on TV, but it is a very deliberate action on their part. When black women are shown on TV, we are judged for every action we take, and editing is very important, so when producers deliberately made the choice to show her in an edit that made her look like she was in the wrong, love island fans have been dragging her relentlessly, and even when the scene was shown that she was in the right (in unseen bits) it was too late, she was voted for negative categories, and, if I'm being honest, is very much hated by white fans of the show because she did a white guy(Matt) "wrong" which she didn't. The public want reasons to hate Kaz, because she's a black woman, and love island is stoking that and encouraging it. When Kaz and other contestants of colour were experiencing racist abuse (and still are) love island reps said nothing, because they don't care. But when Chloe was getting dragged for being a "home wrecker" they put out a statement, when Faye literally was screaming at everyone in the villa, love island has and still is working overtime to repair her image even though her behavior is vile, and let's not even begin on the lack of scenes for Kaz and her current couple. It is deliberate at this point, they WANT the public to despise them.

[@pri.sci.lla.]

What’s crazy to me is now kids want to be influencers when they grow up…

[@tacrewgirl]

This could be a whole video in itself

[@sarizonana]

True, just like many of us let’s face it wanted to be actresses or singers for the glamour. Now it’s the new glam career hehe. Nothing really to worry. How many girls said wanted to be a singer or actress but at the didn’t really wanted it.

[@DNSxDK]

I was on Big Brother many years ago, and in Denmark we got "paid" to be on the show. Every week we survived elimination we got an amount of money sent to our bank account (before tax), which was enough to pay rent and bills (of course when tax had to be paid the next year, we all got a bill, but at least we didn't loose our apartment). I had to get a "leave" from my job, luckily they agreed to it, so when I after 3 months got booted of the show, I had 2-3 months where I could not get back to my job because someone else had filled in for me. I ended up applying for a different position in the company and got that (still working in the company today, just worked my way up). You do spend a lot of money on clothes and other things because you need to prepare for possibly being there for over 100 days. I can't imagine going through all those castings and not get on the show or being elimated after 1 week. All the stress involved preparing everything was certainly crazy. It was a good experience overall, but I didn't not like the "fame" that came with it afterwards - I didn't like to take public transportation because people would stare and take pictures. I also did not want to walk alone on the streets in crowded areas because random people would stop you and act like they know you. It's a part of it which I knew getting into it, but just didn't know that I would hate it that much. I managed to go very much under the radar and when people today ask "Havn't I seen you somewhere before?" I just say "I don't know" :) Also a fact: We had free therapy for 1 year afterwards. We have a mandatory session before and after the show, and I didn't use it again. I know some people had a real hard time getting back to "real life" again. Some even had breakdowns, so it really can play tricks on your brain. Overall advice - think it through before going on a show like that. It is MUCH different than what you think when you see it on TV. And the entire aftermath can be very overwhelming.

[@Papyrus_Basket]

This KZbin channel brings me so much joy honestly

[@helenross3037]

as a british person I've never watched love island but I'm still so sure that british love island is the best one (is this nationalism??)

[@sashhhaa4874]

I’m british too, Don’t watch it much either but this is exactly what I was thinking of when I saw this title 😅

[@Bee-oe1vi]

I’m American and I agree

[@cortney3798]

Dang nationalist

[@helenross3037]

@@cortney3798 you got me!!

[@cortney3798]

@@helenross3037 lol thanks for the chuckle

[@ClaireCraig]

I think the reason for having one body type is pretty obvious, and it's that its the standard of beauty. The point of the show is to make a spectacle of putting a bunch of conventionally attractive characters together and adding in a bunch of dating drama. It's not a show people look to for dating inspiration or as a model to find true love or to find a representation of your body type--it's something you watch when you want to zone out and not think about the world. People like watching hot people prance around and get into fights. I don't think it goes much deeper than that.

[@PogieJoe]

I'm shocked someone else remembers the mastery of the Jimmy Timmy Power Hour.

[@Jayk-kz7sh]

While I can’t say I know much about Love Island in general, I happen to know that the UK version’s narrator, Iain, has had various instances of privacy violations from the press last year. I listened to a podcast he was a guest on, where he said a paparazzi photographer found his address and for a few weeks took pictures of him and his wife whenever they left the house (for context, Iain is married to Love Island’s current host, Laura, so they’re both being papped). So knowing that’s the level of invasiveness that presenters on the show are facing, I was really concerned when I saw the clips of contestants mentioning the lack of privacy after they leave the show. I’m glad you went in depth with the toll on contestants after the show, because it’s a really concerning issue with the media we consume

[@katherinemorelle7115]

I LOVE Caelen’s channel so much! They deserve ALLL the subscribers. The production quality is just off the charts and has been since their very first video. And they’re hilarious. Can not recommend their channel highly enough.

[@jack.e_bee]

Oh man, the anxiety when you were gesturing with the wine glass, my heart rate just creeping up every time the wine sloshed higher in the glass

[@kimonathompson4999]

Thanks Sheridan for your continued help!!! Another great episode Tiffany

[@TheUnevenStitch]

As a UK secondary school teacher in the UK I have a fascinating insight into this. I am both not at all interested (as a mostly adult grown up (TM) and someone who wants to keep at least abreast of current topics to at least understand what their students are on about. I've been in therapy for a decade and I never even got to the final round of a reality TV selection process!

[@isamoreirar]

from an outsider (as in outside of the north hemisphere lol) standpoint it’s interesting hearing you talk about this and comparing how reality tv is portrayed and seen here in brazil. we have our fair share of reality shows but, easily, the most famous one is our version of big brother (bbb). it has 21 seasons and since it began back in 2001 it’s been a huge and influential mainstream thing. the numbers it generates alone are unthinkable (the last winner, juliette, gained 25 million followers while on air and the main villain, karol conka, who was a very known rapper, lost more than 1,5 million followers consecutively, before being eliminated with literally 99% of votes) but the program’s impact on brazilian culture is truly out of this world. every year it unintentionally brings some sort of debate to the public and it makes brazilian social media wild with discussions of politics and idk, human behavior???? specially because of the 24/7 pay-per-view during the 3 months it is on air, it hardly ever lets questionable acts and behavior (that i imagine would get edited out in other reality tv shows) be unknown to the audience. this year’s season alone brought up the topics of lgbtfobia, mental health, racism and xenophobia from the relations of the constants and the public’s reaction to it. i found this article talking about it variety.com/2021/tv/global/big-brother-brasil-2021-lucas-penteado-1234939588/ !! sometimes i wish u were brazilian so i could hear your take on it hahahaha great vid as always

[@isamoreirar]

i also think that throughout the years it gets better because the producers tend to take in perspective the audience’s reaction a lot. the past few seasons they get private sessions with the program’s therapist every week! also, with the karol case they were very careful in the post-elimination period as she was getting a shit ton of hate. they gave her a platform to apologize latter on (which a lot of people didn’t like tbh) and the host always made a point of speaking against ‘cancel culture’ live.

[@jessicabraine9032]

The difference with molly mae was that she an influencer/ KZbinr before going on LI and dani dyer’s dad is a famous actor meaning she was like already known and gained more because of her name , however the others have definitely only gone on for the fame afterwards On another note none of the psychology rules are used as it is all basically an experiment but the ethics is shocking, no aftercare/debrief which leads to negative effects.

[@miriambrown3233]

this wine sponsorship is reminding me of you drinking cooking wine when you ✨✨studied abroad in france✨✨ lol

[@unboxedana9964]

I think I get more excited when I see a notification saying Tiffany has uploaded, than I do when I see a notification saying my food is on its way

[@La7aG1rl]

The video might be 40 mins long but it sure doesn't feel like it. Really love watching your videos. It's like a break from the fakeness others show on KZbin.

[@sophieminter0]

There's the reality TV to influencer pipeline and the influencer to reality TV pipeline 😂

[@soph_maz]

why am i so happy she’s never seen the bachelor? if i hear one more thing about the bachelor i will scream

[@carol1916xd]

The *Too Hot To Handle Brazil* (Brincando com o Fogo Brasil) cast was amazing in terms of the representation of POC. I only wish they added more people to represent different body types.

[@Lyds1]

Love island really puts in 15 men who all say that their type is blonde hair and blue eyes and then throws a couple of black women in and say they’re ‘diverse’. Also, Kaz and Tyler had an actual healthy relationship and came in 4th behind Faye and Teddy when Faye broke the record for the most Ofcom complaints about her borderline abusive behaviour. The fact that the public & producers gave her a redemption arc and she became more popular than Kaz???? Questionable. Do better UK. Also watch EVERY first episode from a love island season and without fail the black contestant gets picked to be in a couple last. Every. Single. Time.

[@b8sil_]

patreon squad!! :) love u tiffany!

[@GloriousBirds]

I love Caelan! So glad you shouted them out!

[@deaf-tomcat]

The lack of diversity and care for black and brown cast members is a big reason why I've stopped watching a lot of competitive reality tv. Like I cannot watch Big Brother anymore bc they do not take care of the black women on their show. They let these women be harassed and bullied by their castmates, they do not protect them from harm, and they do nothing to prevent it. At a certain point, we're just witnessing trauma on live tv. It's a social game and ofc bias is gonna come into play, but a lot of these shows do nothing but profit off of the backs of black women and other brown/marginalized folks. They cast one black woman/man. They cast one Asian person (usually East Asian and light-skinned). And they pack themselves on the back bc they did the bare min; meanwhile, the BIPOC have to deal with ignorant white folk and microaggressions and othering. They have to deal with being isolated from not just their family and friends and the outside world, but also from the rest of the house bc everyone's mad at them for standing up for themselves and not taking the house's abuse.

[@WillmobilePlus]

Lady part of the darn show is the "drama". The black cast members do that $hit just like the others. It is ALL SCRIPTED with certain scenes being multiple takes. And seriously what the h3ll is this whiny crap? "they do not protect them from harm, and they do nothing to prevent it. "

[@DeliaSerene]

@@WillmobilePlus have you ever seen big brother? It’s literally live and 24/7. Where are they scripting stuff?

[@DeliaSerene]

Yeah I felt the same about big brother and stopped watching until this year again. The cookout has been great to watch.

[@bambamberg]

tiffany! u put so much into your videos and it shows!! thanks for the content :))

[@kalex_asmr]

The Love Island alum talking about why asking for body diversity actually makes YOU shallow is the most legitimately thoughtless (as in: I cannot comprehend what neurons were firing in the brain to make this thought form) thing I've ever heard, and it quite honestly killed whatever morbid/comedic curiosity I had about the show.

[@tburrrg2502]

I work in marketing for a big brand and the same lady represents ALL of the former bachelor and love island contestants. She sent me a PDF of clients that is 37 pages long lmao