Why Should I Care About Jonjo Shelvey?

[@Tomwithnonumbers]

Reasons why Shelvey is interesting: 1) When playing Liverpool with Swansea, he said 'The game isn't about me' and then scored a goal, an own goal and got a red card 2) He is a player on the cusp of being great - someone with half the skills of a world-class player, but also enough flaws to hold him back 3) He is the stupidest intelligent footballer in the game. He's a playmaker who will cut a team open with pinpoint passes, and then immediately two foot someone 4) He killed Harry Potter

[@og_praxis17]

How is this not top comment, please

[@coolfear360]

Lol is the first one real? My god that’s gold.

[@daviesugo7641]

@@coolfear360 he also assisted a goal and made a blunder for the other Liverpool goal. Match ended 2-2. He was literally involved in all goals

[@lancinekeita4823]

this is beautiful

[@bri1085]

@@coolfear360 he was the man of the match for both teams interesting watch

[@daniel-cc7bn]

‘Watching clips of Jonjo Shelvey has made me who I am today’ - Andres Iniesta

[@hunterzolomon1303]

Lol dont do that bro

[@ankh_k]

He's more Xavi than Iniesta

[@rohannaval1621]

@@ankh_k he's better than both combined what u on about?

[@joshmccaw2777]

@@ankh_k I don't think so, what you have failed to consider is Iniesta has a lot less hair

[@tommyknockers5492]

@@joshmccaw2777 i dunno man. i ain't seen his bush.

[@philipthomas8928]

Give me 10 sticks and Jonjo Shelvey and I will win you the Champions League -Sir Alex Ferguson

[@theflyingdonkeypunch]

Now i know why Alex shaved his head during the Euros. He was silently protesting Southgate's decision to not include Jonjo in the England squad

[@aidanhunter]

@Christian Christianson the other guy with joe

[@olanrewaju8202]

@Christian Christianson Joe is guy who has laptop in front of him

[@homosapien5156]

I don't know much about Jonjo Shelvey but from seeing him occasionally I think he a midfielder with a bald head and makes some crunching tackles. That is enough to care

[@houcemfehri155]

That's a very astute remark.

[@jay-m4h1g]

Bald head? Strong tackles? A relic of days gone by; a veritable living, breathing museum exhibit.

[@bigclout0056]

I don’t know much about Jonjo Shelvey but from seeing him occasionally I think he’s a dark wizard with a bald head and makes some murderous actions against Muggles. That is enough to care

[@jackjude]

He hardly gets near the opposition to make a challenge, on the the very rare occasion he does, it's only via a mis-timed lunge.

[@uNhlanhlakaSithole]

Shelvey isn't a tackler

[@rohannaval1621]

He has a few movies about himself where he fights this wizard kid called Harry.

[@christhomas9221]

3:21 love the random momentary increase in volume

[@nu-metalfan2654]

As a Liverpool fan, Shelvey had a lot of promise, I think it was either the 2011/12 or 2012/13 season he showed a lot of potential, he had a good half a season, was scoring some goals, and was reminding me a bit of Gerrard. The problem Shelvey had/has though was his work ethic, he would go missing at times and drift in and out of games. Brendan Rodgers preferred Henderson to Shelvey because of Henderson’s great work ethic, but Henderson wasn’t as creative as Shelvey was and Shelvey wasn’t as good as Henderson was with the work ethic, but Rodgers preferred the work ethic over creativity. Matt Le Tissier was a big fan of Shelvey and said he has everything in his locker but he needs to unlock that potential. But like I said the stumbling block with Shelvey is his work ethic and drifts in and out of games, if Shelvey had the same amount of work ethic as Henderson has, Shelvey would still be at Liverpool today as the captain lifting up the Premier League title in 2020. Shelvey had great potential, but it was his bad work ethic that stopped him reaching that potential.

[@cchooch7152]

I think this series needs the addition of Joe's transfer rumours buzzers

[@finleysummers9643]

Yes, very much agreed. Those buzzers are absolutely hilarious!

[@CJ_Yo_]

With "Wow" or "I don't care" etc.

[@raghuk6063]

it'll be priceless to watch alex get incredibly annoyed at those buzzers

[@buckethead133]

@@raghuk6063 no wonder he left.

[@toonreviewstato2339]

For the last two seasons, once we reach 65 minutes, it's like watching Declan Rice with two broken legs shield the back four. The only way he'd be viable is if we play 4-3-3 with Shelvey, Hayden and a strong box-to-box capable of helping with possession play (Midfielder that we don't have) (Last person we had with this physicality was Mo Diame I believe)

[@LewisMcDonaldBass]

This guy in the video is giving him way too much credit

[@alexturner9141]

once we reach 20 mins sometimes

[@jamesreynolds3546]

turns out he just needed Joelinton along side him

[@toonreviewstato2339]

@@alexturner9141 It's scary how close I was! I predicted the 4-3-3 and the need for a destroyer midfielder (we didn't know it'd be Joelinton at the time) Shelvey's rise has coincided with all of the above

[@nbrown_]

Really enjoying this series. Alex smashed this one out of the park.

[@mitch7848]

How?

[@buckethead133]

@@mitch7848 shut up

[@ryanbutler4221]

Jonjo grew up around the corner from me, I remember walking to the shop as a kid and seeing him kick a ball against the wall all day

[@odity2076]

Did he still look like Voldemort

[@davrothelegend]

FM 2012 shelvey was a must buy. I think this series would benefit from something like a thesis statement that the analyst can argue for. eg. shelvey would be a world beater if he were Italian 10 years ago.

[@KindredBrujah]

Yeah, agreed. It's a little woolly at the moment. As to your thesis statement, no he wouldn't be. He's good, but he's not Pirlo and he's not Totti. He would be a good Italian midfielder, perhaps good enough to get the odd cap for Italy, but no more than that.

[@StoutProper]

Can’t see him getting anywhere near the Italian midfield myself

[@davrothelegend]

@@KindredBrujah I mean for an Italian domestic team. And the thesis statement would obviously be a bit controversial. Yer know, clickbait 'n all that.

[@KindredBrujah]

@@davrothelegend Yeah, I agree with the idea wholeheartedly. :)

[@connorllewellyn4382]

Shelvey was a joy to watch for swans. He played like steven gerrard with a grit and anger of a young rooney. Really was awesome to watch

[@Daleyblog]

I remember him being with us at Blackpool on loan for sixth months in 2011 and he was absolutely unbelievable. The highlight probably being a 40 yard free kick in a 4-1 win again Burnley, I was convinced he’d lead us to 2012 euros glory.

[@CliffTooth]

surely if Shelvey won the euros with Blackpool he would have been a legend forever! (I'm kidding, I got what you meant)

[@jameswright21]

Went about it all wrong, with facts and stats. You gotta know your audience. This is how I would have done it. 1- Kind of looks like an angry penguin. (Photoshopped pic) 2- When he gets the ball stuck in his feet he kind of waddles like he had an egg. 3- The swimming thing being a transition from penguin to the rest of the analysis.

[@swagatosarkar9664]

Alex: "He is Charlton's youngest ever player" Joe: "Sure! Now we taking..." Me: wait what

[@runrafarunthebestintheworld]

Also Joe: "Say more things to make me care" 😅

[@artysin6331]

Great that Alex brought out Grace Roberton's newsletter, the retrospective on England has been excellent.

[@lkindness]

Do you know where I can find this?

[@tysonwilkins2537]

@@lkindness @GraceOnFootball on twitter, she has a link to her substack newsletter there

[@lkindness]

@@tysonwilkins2537 cheers bro

[@KisMiska10]

I remember when he was at Liverpool and got sent off against Man Utd. He lost his rag (no pun intended) and started pointing and shouting at Sir Alex Ferguson. Sir Alex just laughed at him.

[@syariqueizzan6292]

I don’t know why but the “but if Thiago played for Newcastle…” had me rolling

[@harrymcmullen2227]

Alex: he has an incredibly accurate range of passing, and looks to spread the ball around. Joe: so you’re saying he delivers the mail up to the front Alex: … sure

[@homosapien5156]

Absolutely brilliant. The very interesting pieces of information like the the London expansion plan were incredible. Thank you Alex.

[@nk_17]

Still remember that City vs Newcastle match where Shelvey and KDB scored INCREDIBLE goals

[@elixirix]

I'm a newcastle fan and I really rate him. his passing is outstanding, and even played sweeper a few times last season, retro position. and no mention of his alopecia either, which must have affected him a lot.

[@RaseYourProbs]

I'm a Newcastle fan too, and while I do rate him, I do not feel he is good for Newcastle. He is best suited to a team who dominates possession. He would look unplayable at the top 6 teams, because he'd have more time on the ball, more possession. His flaws as a footballer, his work rate and his poor tackling won't be exposed as much.

[@darkshines800]

I genuinely believe that Shelvey and Spearing were brought through together at Liverpool with the idea that they'd be the English replacements for Alonso and Mascherano. Weirdly it shows how highly they were thought of at the time, and how bad Liverpool's management were at the time. He's a decent player though, and deserves to be thought of as one of the best English Registas of his generation, as obsolete as that might be...

[@hughmoore963]

Glad to see Grace get a mention here, would love to see her collaborate with the channel in the future! (Her newsletter alex mentions is v v v good btw)

[@harperstephens2640]

grace is absolute class

[@arkabasak5241]

"in the same way that football left Jonjo Shelvey behind, I might do too" xD

[@runrafarunthebestintheworld]

"Say more things to make me care" hahaha 😅

[@BJ9992]

Alex always with the high quality insight, wish we got more of him!

[@tomgorman7457]

i enjoy watching alex slowly start to see how this series works

[@callum2474]

This whole video is hilarious! Great work. Dream team would have Shelvey and Pukki in it!!

[@Nakuppi]

I really enjoyed watching him played for Swansea

[@wesdryden2086]

My dads mate did his bedroom and kitchen and said his house is a shithole and his bedroom was covered in beer bottles/cans in the middle of the day in the middle of the week.

[@zzzzzz4110]

That's mental

[@felixbache5369]

"You'll have a good time bu not a long time" That's always been my personal slogan

[@MrRandomDude71]

Hope that Alex knows that he is great, and so interesting to listen to, even if Joe is a bit harsh on him sometimes

[@swungsw5106]

Great series. Seb watch those stock music levels in the edit!

[@RiseandFireBill]

I will never forget Men in Blazers calling Jonjo Shelvey, "Hallitosis, personified"

[@MsiziNkosi22]

Ah a Grace Robertson shoutout, more Alex on the show please!

[@keyserni]

Adidas did a fan question session with StevenG and I remember someone asked him "Steve, does JonJo Shelvey take up all the car park at Melwood when he arrives in his Space Ship?".

[@sufiyan.9535]

The Dark Lord shall return. 🐍

[@CGCoaching]

I feel like Alex has hacked my brain. For years I have been Chairman of the "Pro Shelvey Group". Delighted there are more of us. For me, Shelvey would be in my England side everytime.

[@skusami1]

Is it because you're bald

[@ryanlucey6642]

Great work lads, how does one get a hold of that Tifo t-shirt?

[@abelstretford3097]

Shelvey can have games where he’s amazing. He has an amazing passing ability but he can go missing and lazy and if he’s not on his game he’s invisible. Sadly for us and him he’s going missing loads over last season. Seems uninterested and we should sell him to be honest he’s totally uninterested

[@FlatsTheFlounder23]

I’ll be really sad to see him go. One of my favourite players to watch on his day. Sometimes he can go missing but I think his lack of defensive effort is a bit exaggerated to be honest. Almost definitely biased cuz Ive loved watching him play for years.

[@dddgtsd]

Spot on my namesake. If he isn't bossing the midfield battle within the first 20 mins he fades out, it's quite an immature trait. He has phases where he knuckles down and gets a bit of consistency. No doubt with better players around him he'd look better but he was a step back after Cabaya, Shelvey lacks mobility but hopefully Willock will bring that like he did last season.

[@bri1085]

Has all the makings of an all time great, but his attitude holds him back. Very talented.

[@legoclone4658ALT]

Can we find these TIFO IRLs on Spotify? Want to listen to them on my commute!

[@CJ_Yo_]

As a Swansea fan, Jonjo Shelvey was everything you love and hate as a fan. He'd score wonderful goals (Vs Villa, Vs Fulham), hit incredible long passes from deep to bypass a press & played on the edge so in derby matches or games with tension you'd love the fight and desire he showed to win the ball. However, he sometimes played on the edge too much (e.g. Vs Liverpool at home in a 2-2 draw when he had a hand in every goal), he seemed to ruffle feathers in the squad behind the scenes (press rumours) and sometimes it looked like he'd switch off or not be in the game at all and he couldn't snap back into it like certain players can.

[@mrcatcake1264]

So does Alex think there’s still a place for Jonjo skill set at international level?

[@Rosemitchell17]

LOVE this series concept!

[@SiccazHD]

One of the best long passers in Europe, looks like Howe will use him a bit better than Bruce did.

[@johnnyhudson9804]

I genuinely believe that if Jonjo Shelvey was born anywhere but England he would've wound up as a world class player in Italy or Spain by now. Players like Jonjo make me sad that English footballers never go abroad.

[@mattkemper8485]

Why does the background music suddenly get so loud around 3:20

[@donalmurphy100]

I absolutely love this. Well done guys

[@jamesleonard90]

The addition of Alex’s notes in the intro is nice

[@THENAGES]

Why should I care about this channel 😂 I already subscribed 😂😂

[@peteredeoghon6457]

Football hipster senses activating

[@TheGroundHopper]

Didn't tammy Abraham get an England cap while playing for swansea?

[@justianlouis753]

Well at least he got me to type in Jonjo Shelvey in my KZbin search afterwards. Good job pal!

[@jkenmiller]

The stats don't lie, we are a better team with him in the team than without, underrated player with a beautiful right foot

[@rory4605]

These are fascinating videos. I'm loving all the new series on IRL.

[@stevelandwonder4760]

Is it April 1st? Yours, A NUFC Fan.

[@azfar333]

Alex has convinced me to sign Jonjo Shelvey... for Crystal Palace... on FIFA 21 Career Mode. I wouldn’t mind having Alex as my Sporting Director for the club now.

[@patrickdaitya7084]

I dont like this idea that Italian midfielders have more time on the ball. iirc, the premier league and serie are are similar for passes per defensive action

[@CJ_Yo_]

If Alex used some of the information from Atheltico Mince on Shelvey, I'm sure Joe would show more interest😂

[@AM-xg4vl]

I absolutely love jonjo Shelvey❤️. people underestimate him so much!!

[@bobbym9160]

Don't think he's that divisive amongst the Newcastle fans. We're all pretty much decided that he's not good enough (to be an automatic starter at least).

[@raprice79]

This video didn't make me care about Jonjo Shelvey. But it did give me a better understanding of why I don't care about him, which I appreciate.

[@Tdawgmcginty]

I always enjoy watching Shelvey. He’s got wonderful vision and always asks for the ball. I think he’s a useful mid table player.

[@iceytoa1]

Was the music jumping up while he was talking about him being capped at Swansea a joke or accident? Had to listen a few times to hear him :(

[@mangalam4891]

Ayee Alex long time no see

[@LukeBraithwaite]

What’s with the volume at 3:34

[@Tinywars]

Jonjo Shelvey is great as a deep lying playmaker. The only issue I've had with him is his commitment.

[@jacobesmith12]

Always rated him, always thought he has posessed something not many england players have, always been laughed at

[@tomgorman7457]

you can add this to the list of thing i didnt expect at all in any way shape or form

[@alexpatterson7811]

Is Alex’s shirt a sign of incoming Tifo merch?

[@moisesfernando2516]

This is my favourite Tifo IRL video 😂😂😂😂 funny af

[@SA-fl1ed]

Really like this series can’t wait for the next one

[@hdisnnshjwnw9153]

3:30 - 3:35 what does he mean by, 'this is working?

[@tba6]

Your audio clarity wasn't as good as usual?

[@jamesharris5707]

Jonjo Shelvey keeps the flame alive for people who remember Yul Brynner

[@gal708]

They gotta make one of these about Xhaka.

[@Curtisand15]

Interesting Video: Can Alex talk about Jonjo if he was coached by a manager like Bielsa. If Bielsa was coaching jonjo would he move him to center back? Would he just sell him? Really enjoyed the video

[@Leigh_Bailey]

Joe had me cracking up in this one. Love it!

[@franriding6473]

Was waiting for the pirlo reference. I turned it off. Do they mention "quarterback"

[@anon1534]

He who must not be named

[@gggiii1915]

When will be next episode?

[@sld1776]

The huge shining noggin for once. Your eyes are drawn to it, then the brightness forces you to look away.

[@andr8451]

3:24 audio engineer fell asleep on the knob haha

[@rolandcooke]

Love the Care-O-Meter...but it maybe needs some additional lower gears... :D

[@MashedIrony]

This was surprisingly interesting, thank you guys for some excellent insight!

[@thedislikebutton163]

Man City still in fear. They're trying to sign Harry so desperately

[@reggiebanks7627]

I bet Newcastle fans would do anything to get rid of him.

[@kicka11]

I’m a Newcastle fan and I don’t care about Shelvey, other than waiting for the date he leaves the club. Lazy and rubbish.

[@esel5148]

Love the Grace Robertson shout out ♥️

[@cemacem4102]

Great video!!

[@Summer-rj9ms]

My friends played against Shelvey a few times a youth level. Heard from multiple, separate groups that he's racist AF

[@pipbeale]

Do more of these. Love this. The more controversial the better. Thanks.

[@GeorgeTGF]

Didn't even have to mention the fact that he does a ton of work for young people who have alopecia and helping them by being a reasonably prominent person with it.

[@nolikeygsomnipresence270]

The first bald non-fraud?

[@GeorgeTGF]

@@nolikeygsomnipresence270 he got it quite young and has worked hard in helping young people. It's quite amusing because he looks like Voldemort, but by complete chance. I imagine him having Tarzan level locks otherwise

[@domhuckle]

Is he Newcastle's Juan Veron? Or Matt LeTissier?

[@munawaralias8980]

He's supposed to be Gerard's understudy at Liverpool. If not for those two foot tackles...

[@AdA-kg3fn]

I don’t think they’ve ever seen jonjo play live, even his quarterback passes are so pedestrian, telegraphed and slow

[@teddy5424]

Where can we buy one of those snazzy Tifo shirts?

[@scepticalsaint]

Why does he have access to this information?