Tiger 800 - Chain clean, adjust, lube

Video showing how I clean adjust and lubricate the chain on my Tiger 800XC, exactly the same procedure on the 800 road too
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[@angrybearduk]

Thanks for the video. Just followed the instructions and adjusted chain on my 1050.

[@johnfurniss8155]

Another great video! Many thanks Muddy Sump for taking the time to put these up, finding them essential for a Tiger newbie.

[@MuddySump]

+John Furniss 👍🏼

[@MuddySump]

Thanks a lot. It a chain alignment tool. You sit it on the rear sprocket, see the red dot on the chain next to the sprocket then turn the wheel a bit so the light is now shining further down the chain. The dot should be at the same place all the way down the chain then you know it is straight.

[@motot3adventure]

I also own a tiger and a DRZ. Thank you for your work and time. Have a great day.

[@richardg2959]

Really well presented and easy to understand. Will look for more tips that I can do myself but nothing to complicated 👍

[@2tpilot]

Thanks for all the posts! Just ordered my 16 800 xca and these videos will come in handy. Cheers!

[@MuddySump]

Thanks. It's all pretty much the same on the new models too

[@MuddySump]

They make a good combination. Thanks

[@michaelbowlds4203]

Thanks for the help. Excellent videos!

[@MuddySump]

Thanks for watching :-)

[@tinks43]

Although I know how to do this it’s still great to watch, cheers!

[@Ti_Ti_ta]

awesome channel. Thanks for the chain remove and adjustment videos. About to take my tire in to have tube replaced after hitting a nail.

[@MuddySump]

👍🏼 problem with tubes, can’t just plug the tyre

[@nicolassolberg5652]

Awesome vids. Definitely help with wrenching on my 800xc.

[@MuddySump]

Thanks

[@MuddySump]

Thanks

[@rkdash2006]

thank you

[@Taffwildmanofthewoods]

Good video very informative. I adjusted and cleaned my chain today on my Xrx as it had become loose since purchase in July 2017. The bike and chain are not as clean as yours, as I use it all year round in all weathers. I don't have a car so my bike is a means of transport on the daily commute. Cheers

[@MuddySump]

Thanks. Mine was my only transport too. Always had acf50 on my bike but still cleaned it off all the time. Didn’t trust it 😄

[@Rhunyen]

DuPont chain lube and degreaser have worked great over my last three bikes for ~130k miles. Rarely need to adjust chain compared with others lubes I've tried. Always spin my wheel by hand though, as I'm not getting my hands near a moving chain/spokes. ;)

[@morphixnet]

Great video. One thing to note is not to spray the lube in the direction of tyre, that could be a slippery ride!

[@dasf2008]

I like the Motul C1 to clean the chain. It is a nice product, tough a bit expensive. I agree that it is dangerous to work on the rear wheel with the engine on but it is complicated to distribute the oil nicely if you spin it by hand.

[@MuddySump]

+Demetrio FILHO that why I just use paraffin. Can sometimes use a full can of chain cleaner on one clean.

[@MuddySump]

+Demetrio FILHO that why I just use paraffin. Can sometimes use a full can of chain cleaner on one clean.

[@boristheblade209]

Nice vid My DRZ's chain seems way too tight, i get about 35mm play between the sprockets on the lower part of the chain, (10mm down, 25mm up) with the bike on the side stand. But my back wheel is almost all of the way forward, meaning i cant loosen the chain much. Do you think i need a new chain or get another link put in? cheers

[@MuddySump]

Is it the right length chain you've got on already?

[@HGPILOT2]

Hey @MuddySump - quick question. Trying to figure out exactly where the halfway point is on the swing arm so I can accurately check the chain slack. In the video you just say it's halfway between the front / back sprocket. I'm having a hard time locating that point without taking off the shifter mechanism so I can access the front sprocket cover so I can take an accurate measurement. Is there not some sort of mark on the swing arm? There is so much exacting information with NM settings, chain slack parameters (20-30 mm), etc. that I'm surprised it's not an exact mark. Is this an exact point for checking or is it more of a general eyeball halfway point?

[@MuddySump]

+Matt McLelland yea, it's not that accurate 🙂 just by look

[@MeeJunksEavy]

Great vid. My Street triple uses a similar technique. Wondering if this can be done on a rear paddock stand as well?

[@MuddySump]

Hi. Yes it's the same. Since it's on the paddock stand you've already got the tension taken up that you should have with both wheels on the floor so can set the chain tension to the proper spec

[@rosed7774]

Great Videos, thanks v much for posting. Excellent level of detail and pace. What are you checking with the laser a 6.00mins? Is it a special tool?

[@andymeier]

Have a look at this demo: kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z3OkkH-dqbB2nc0

[@mateusmelara6116]

Hi MuddySump, congrats for your tips and videos. I have some question about paraffin, you dissolves the paraffin in the water? Or buy liquid paraffin? thanks for all

[@MuddySump]

+Mateus Melara its liquid paraffin. Straight from the bottle

[@richardhutton3552]

Is the 20-30mm the distance down from the swing arm when the chain is pushed up, or the total travel between upper and lower level? I looked this up in the Haynes manual and it’s not too clear. Love the video. Great breakdown including the spanner sizes and torque settings. Thanks for sharing your skills!

[@MuddySump]

It’s the distance from the chain at its lowest point to its highest point. I just use the swing arm to keep the tape measure in a set position

[@kombinator5621]

I'm changing the sprockets and doinng this of course. Can you tell me the torque setting for the front sprocket. I can't find a solid answer some people say 85 nm and some say like 100 something nm.

[@MuddySump]

+Sebastian Beretvas hi. It's 85Nm

[@jasgol1]

Great vid, however, I would suggest NEVER have your engine running whilst working on your chain, I have seen horrific hand injuries in my time. (I work in x-ray)

[@MuddySump]

Seen a few pictures of missing finger tips now.

[@jasgol1]

Yea, one minute you're merrilly cleaning your chain and then suddenly you only have two fingers left! not good.

[@michaeldent222]

Think I'm going to have to have one of those chain alignment tools :-)

[@MuddySump]

The tigers chain alignment points on the swinging arm are pretty accurate already.

[@mikemccanna8548]

Sadly they didnt bother to put those on the '15+ - What tool is that? I didnt hear it mentioned.

[@Grumpyoldtwit]

Could you explain why you put the spanner between the chain and sprocket while you tightened the wheel nut? I recently had a new rear tire fitted, and the mechanic did something similar, except he used a rag, not a spanner.

[@MuddySump]

+Muzz Litebeer it stops the wheel moving back when tightening the nut and making the chain tighter

[@cesarbressiani2551]

very good your videos. can show disassembly of the damper / spring assembly

[@MuddySump]

I don’t have the bike anymore

[@benclarkson9186]

Great quality vid. Would it be an idea to shield the spray from hitting the wheel? A little bit of card hanging from the swing arm would do it?

[@MuddySump]

Yes can do. Could hold an old rag behind to coach the over spray

[@JJsiN84]

Great job on these videos man! It is really helping me out with my Tiger 800 XCX. Only thing is I didn't understand what you said you where dipping the chain brush in?

[@MuddySump]

+Jason Nolet thanks. It's paraffin. Kerosene in the US

[@JJsiN84]

Thank you

[@SurfnPics]

How frequently should the chain be cleaned and what tyres do you have thanks?

[@MuddySump]

Depends what kind of riding you do really. If it’s looking dirty and full of road grime give it a clean and lube. The tyres were the standard scorpions that came fitted to the bike. I never had to replace them when I had it

[@ketamyna]

today, while adjusting the chain, after unlocking the axle nut and the 2 lockouts I got stuck when the offside bolt for the adjustment wouldn't move. I managed to turn it maybe at urn at best but nothing more than that. I'm worried I could end up braking it. Has this ever happened to you before? Do you have any advice for it? thank you

[@MuddySump]

It's what I fear every time I go to turn them. They are known to seize in. Best to take the wheel off and try it with a socket instead of a spanner. Squirt wd40 on the bolt inside the swingarm and let it soak for a bit. There's holes on the inside of the swingarm and they let dirt and water in onto the bolt.

[@ketamyna]

Thanks. I'll try it. Had both tires replaced with the pilot 4 trail and the guy didn't do any adjustment. So I did it myself but the bolt was stuck. Probably previous owner never checked it, considering what I've found on the chain too. I'll spray wd40 and leave it overnight then I'll take the wheel off and try with a socket. Thanks again. 

[@TomSz13]

If the bike is on the center stand, what is the slack on the chain? Also 20-30mm?

[@MuddySump]

+Tomek no. Needs to be checked with both wheels on the ground. It usually tightens when you put it down

[@petkopeet]

What is the adjuatment for regular tiger 800 non XC? Same 20-30mm or less?

[@MuddySump]

Yes. It used to be less but got changed to the same tension on all models

[@Sonu-on5de]

Great video,dosent paraffin degrade the o rings of the chain??

[@MuddySump]

Never had any problems with it

[@pigeonpallz1733]

I was wondering if you could show how to adjust the suspension on the rear ? I have a 2012 800xc and the book sais it has adjustable rear shock but I have no idea . it feels stiff in the rear . thank you again so much

[@MuddySump]

If you look at it from the right hand side near the top you will see an adjuster that you can turn with a flat screwdriver or an 8or10mm socket. I haven’t got one anymore to show you

[@pigeonpallz1733]

@@MuddySump thank you ! I was looking on the wrong side lol . what did you replace your tiger with ?

[@MuddySump]

qBMOp I just went back to riding dirt bikes for a while but now have an air cooled bonnie as well. Don’t have much time to ride any of them anymore though 😅

[@pigeonpallz1733]

@@MuddySump if riding is something you enjoy then I hope time comes again for you . your videos gave me the confidence to work on my bike and the confidence to go farther because I could change a tire and fix thins on my bike . it may sound silly but I believe I can and I normally am filled with doubt . thank you again for taking the time to make videos and answer questions .

[@Irinaha]

Hi Muddy Sump. I tried the method you have demonstrated here and am finding my chain has accumulated significant wax build up plus it wasnt nearly as clean as your was in this video. My Grungebrush caked up much hot wax and was nearly unusable after about 5 minutes of cleaning. What am I doing wrong?

[@MuddySump]

Where’s the hot wax coming from?

[@Irinaha]

@@MuddySump i basically melt the wax in a stainless steel pot and once it has boiled down to a liquid apply it using my grunge brush.

[@MuddySump]

I don’t use wax. It’s just a liquid. Paraffin, kerosene in the US. If it’s wax it will turn back into a wax when it cools

[@Irinaha]

@@MuddySump ok, would you mind sharing the product?

[@MuddySump]

Paraffin/kerosene.

[@ludodg]

according to manual: 20 - 30mm of play on the XC, 15 to 25 mm on the road-model

[@MuddySump]

There was a service bulletin out, cant remember what number it was but both models are 20-30 mm now.

[@ludodg]

MuddySump allright, thx!

[@whyckicki]

So if I got it right, the free play of the chain is bigger when on center stand ? So the 20-30mm is on center stand or side stand ? Nice video by the way ! Helps a lot !

[@MuddySump]

20-30mm is when the bike is upright with both wheels on the ground. If you adjust it on the centre stand the chain will tighten when the wheels are on the floor

[@ketamyna]

there's one thing I don't get. when you move the chain up and down, it seems to me it moves a lot, let's say a good 6 7 cm. shouldn't it move just 2 or 3 cm max?

[@MuddySump]

Is that not just at the start when it's slack? When it's set it should be 20-30mm when it's on the ground

[@ketamyna]

Thank you.

[@paulbrady1103]

Is that on the centre stand at the time?

[@MuddySump]

I’m adjusting it on the centrestand. The proper free play should be checked with the wheels on the ground though.

[@lowerymj]

MuddySump What is the tool you used to loosen the axel nut?

[@MuddySump]

Hi, it was just a 27mm socket on a 1/2" drive ratchet.

[@michaelbennett8847]

+MuddySump 12 point or 6 point work best for that?

[@MuddySump]

+Michael Bennett mine was 12 point.

[@michaelbennett8847]

+MuddySump Thanks! Hobby is expensive. Farkles and tools! :-) What laser did you use? Profi?

[@MuddySump]

+Michael Bennett yes, I think it was. I never use it, the marks are all pretty accurate on bikes now

[@sliglusamelius8578]

You could have explained counter vs clockwise in tightening the chain or loosening it.

[@MuddySump]

Loosen the bolt to push the axle backwards.

[@MutasemHalawani]

Why lube the chain from the side and outer side?. I’ve heard it’s not useful and only adds more lube on non fraction points which makes the chain collect more dirt

[@MuddySump]

Stop it getting rusty

[@MutasemHalawani]

@@MuddySump that’s a good point. Thanks for the reply :)

[@MutasemHalawani]

Is it possible to check the slack without removing the chain rubbing guide?

[@MuddySump]

@@MutasemHalawani yes. You don’t remove the chain guide to adjust the chain.

[@craigpalmer347]

are ya still working 🤔🤔

[@MuddySump]

Yes still working

[@craigpalmer347]

@@MuddySump nice 1 handy to know just bought a bike and a service reciept was in the pack off you 👍👍

[@rmcmotorick434]

Your practice is ok BUT the thing you might want to edit out or never show is .....YOU DONT EVER work on the rear wheel with the motor on!!!!!! That sure is a quick way to lose your fingers. That part just blew me away holy crap that was scary ... All that work don't be lazy turn the wheel with your free hand .... i mean you took all the time to do this and then in the end say a quick way ????? hahah

[@LividAxis]

RMC Moto Rick get the fuck out of here with that shit

[@thesupermariu]

You're hilarious Rick hahaha

[@DavidWebb-rz3vi]

Hey there Snowflake Rick!

[@bigbluechopper24]

Great video! I assume it is ok to adjust the chain tension while on the side stand? As have an XRX Low that doesn't have a side stand. Thanks!

[@MuddySump]

Yes but just check the tension again when the bikes upright

[@bigbluechopper24]

@@MuddySump Thank you!

[@zaaap0]

You shouldnt adjust chain while on a stand (at least according to the manual)

[@MuddySump]

It’s easier and I think I say in the video to check it on the floor afterwards