Tigerclaw Sinners - Complete MAP

Rehosted from @galaxymew . Bazinga.
Summary: Tigerclaw was once a young promising cat with many friends, but in order to impress his violent mentor Thistleclaw, he trains hard to be a fighter and puts all his emotions down. As an adult, Tigerclaw feels stunted and unable to communicate with his old friends, especially after his mentor dies. The young cat Redtail is very impressed by Tigerclaw, and wants to befriend him, but Tigerclaw is deeply jealous of the ease with which Redtail makes friends and feels like Redtail has stolen all his friends and credit. Tigerclaw will solve this the only way he knows how: with violence.
SONG: Sinners by Barns Courtney
CREDITS SONG: Sinners (Live Acoustic) by Barns Courtney
Thumbnail by @treeetooop
PARTS LIST:
Intro: @LettuceBettuce
1. @treeetooop
2. FennecPika
3. Catfrost + Senswii + TWArtz
4. @Aspeyns
5. @inspectorspinda
6. Roseshards
7. Lunemoths
8. Sally Chel
9a. BeastyBby + Swift Willow Studios + @RedRaven64 + Akemi Vierra
9b. muckrooms + sage-leaves + BeastyBby
10. Ru End Fns_Hope
11. Ru End Fns_Hope
12. Pfini Productions
13. Pfini Productions
14. Riley
15. Riley
16. Sparroet
17. Vilatus
18. Sparroet + Nettlefang
19. KaraLaa
20. Kimi Cook
21. Tiger Light, LettuceBettuce, Akemi Viera, Gobboprotector
Outro: stariitea
CREDITS ANIMATIONS:
Mayartmations
GobboProtector
@galaxymew
Lunemoths
NightWolf
Sprinting Snail Studios
WoolHug
Aces of Stars
Broken
Akemi Vierra

[@akarionxi]

I headcanon that Thistleclaw would often emotionally abuse and humiliate Tigerpaw during training too: taunting Pinestar, taunting him for being Pinestar's son, blaming him for Pinestar becoming a kittypet, using Leopardfoot's early death to manipulate him, all to fuel an extremely unhealthy amount of rage in Tigerpaw to make him fight harder. But he was not fighting harder out of loyalty for his loved ones, his friends, or his clan, he was fighting harder out of spite and hatred. Thistleclaw preyed on every single one of Tigerpaw's insecurities and instead of Tigerclaw ever overcoming them, he instead turned them into things to hate unconditionally and destroy in any cat he sees that has them. I'm not excusing Tigerclaw, this is just how I imagine his psyche developed.

[@baileypressman7650]

That Is Interesting. I Like It!

[@waltuhputyourdsawaywaltuh]

that's actually a pretty good headcanon

[@beastmaster0934]

I wouldn’t put it past Thistleclaw to do some garbage like that. Emotional abuse sounds right up his alley.

[@kitsuneWC]

*i was gonna do that in my cradles pmv xD*

[@user-ov3se8dt1o]

I love Tigerstar so much for some reason

[@mushroomanimals]

I feel like if Pinestar didn’t leave and if he didn’t have Thsitleclaw as a mentor, he could’ve been a good cat. AU maybe..?

[@millicentwood549]

I think I remember a Starclan Cat (Thunderstar, maybe?) telling Pinestar that he could stay with Tigerkit and change the way he would supposedly turn out. I'd definitely like to see an AU of that.

[@mushroomanimals]

@@millicentwood549 mm yea!

[@baileypressman7650]

SOMEONE. MAKE. THIS. A. MAP. RIGHT. NOW.

[@mushroomanimals]

@@baileypressman7650 pff-

[@Nezukoscat]

We need a Tigerclaw good guy what if. Give it to me now

[@asaschuemann9545]

I love how in this map you can really see Thistleclaw's influence slowly corrupting Tigerclaw until he becomes cruel and hateful, rejecting the cats he once called friends in Lionheart, Whitestorm and later Redtail. It shows perfectly how evil doesn't corrupt a person all at once, it does so slowly, over a long time, and with devastating results. Tigerclaw could've been on of the clans' greatest warriors...instead he became a monster of his own making. He was already spiralling downwards, Thistleclaw merely helped him fall fully into his new role.

[@asaschuemann9545]

I should also just say that just because Thistleclaw influenced Tigerclaw's actions and thinking, doesn't mean he's completely at fault for his fall, after all, Tigerclaw chose to keep acting like that even long after Thistleclaw was in the grave and many of his friends met early ends because of it. We're all influenced by others around us, but only you can change yourself, for good or ill. Thistleclaw exacerbated a problem that was already there, namely Tigerclaw's insecurity, but he didn't cause the problem outright.

[@mikeytheninjaturtle746]

@@asaschuemann9545 you also forgot Mapleshade was also corrupting Tigerstar as well

[@asaschuemann9545]

@@mikeytheninjaturtle746 True, but she largely did that through Thistleclaw, that's the thing with her plans, Mapleshade is good at delegating tasks to her underlings and often just manages the bigger picture. So you're right, Mapleshade is about the closest we have to a devil in Warriors and Thistleclaw, the cat who largely corrupted Tigerclaw, was arguably one of her demons so to speak. Also, just a personal opinion, it seems like in the books both Thistleclaw and Tigerstar are scared of Mapleshade, like they know she's a far greater evil than they are.

[@beastmaster0934]

@@asaschuemann9545 Which is why Mapleshade should’ve been the big head honcho of the dark forest in Omen of the Stars.

[@danielheiger8967]

I don't think Thistleclaw was truly evil he just tried to protect his clan at any cost and if that means he has to destroy all of the other clans than so be it and even tigerstar said thistleclaw would have never tried to kill his leader when he was alive he never told him he has to kill someone to become leader that was a decision he made himself even goosefeather has seen that Tigerstar was destined to be evil

[@treeetooop]

I’m honored you choose my thumbnail!! Can’t wait to finally see this MAP finished :0

[@deadchannel5534]

Good job with the thumbnail Treetop!

[@RedRaven64]

Your thumbnail is so pretty!!

[@anthonylucero6650]

🗑🤖

[@marigold4564]

The thumbnails so good!!!!!

[@Firefly8206]

AAA the thumbnail looks amazing, treeetooop!! Ur one of my fav youtubers XD

[@Rowananimations]

Starclan: *what do you do when you lose all your friends?* Smudge - I think of them sometimes ShadowSight - I feel terribly and understandably terrible, often finding ways to blame myself for it Tigerstar - *Kill*

[@averypolitecat6843]

Well that escalated quickly.

[@baileypressman7650]

N i c e .

[@Homeless_Idea_Man]

Jayfeather: I take it out on others

[@zea_animates_it]

Starclan😀😕🙁☹️😰

[@T03_B3ANS]

@@averypolitecat6843XD 😂

[@matchamakess]

Finally a map that shows his friendship with Redtail! Nobody has ever done that in a map and everyone did a great job, from the animators, to the designs and thumbnail! Another reason I love this map is because it also shows before he was evil. Most maps trust makes tiger star evil and that’s it? Edit: Wow! Never got to 300+ likes! Tysm! Another Edit: Tysm for 400 likes 🥰

[@Ytz._.Wolfyrra]

Yeah!

[@Kalmia_1]

Actually, no place like thunderclan is an old map but it shows a bit of Tigerclaw’s friendship with red tail. But both Sinners and that map do a great job of portraying Tigerclaw :)

[@matchamakess]

@@Kalmia_1 oh yeah it is, still it’s an underrated concept

[@Pnc531]

500 now!

[@baileypressman7650]

605 Likes Now!

[@kiro7707]

i never really thought about how he ended up turning into the very thing he hated, a horrible mentor. ravenpaw was in a similar spot to him under thistleclaw.

[@kitsuneWC]

Just like how a bully gets bullied, and its affects them like a disease, thankfully ravenpaw didn't become like tigerstar

[@GweenOfTea]

I like how Tigerpaw is portrayed as a victim of Thistleclaw rather than a shadow/henchman, I think it adds so much more depth to his character, his desperation for approval and success taken way too far, and how his abuse from Thistleclaw corrupted him rather than him overcoming it is such an unfortunately realistic take and I love it!

[@asaschuemann9545]

It's honestly really tragic how of Tigerclaw's original group of friends portrayed by this map, only one wouldn't be directly killed due to his actions. Redtail was murdered by him personally, Lionheart essentially had a hit placed on him, with Tigerclaw contacting Brokenstar at a gathering and organizing a "surprise raid" that just so happened to have Lionheart as one of exactly TWO casualties. Only Whitestorm survived Tigerclaw's rampage against his friends, and even though he outlived Tigerstar, he was still killed by Bloodclan, who Tigerstar brought to the forest. I still think it's telling that by the late point in his life, Tigerstar's friends who actually cared about him, Lionheart, Redtail, Whitestorm, etc, were all either dead or hated him, while the only cats that surrounded him were conflicted killers like Blackfoot or sycophants like Darkstripe and Leopardstar.

[@haileymoulden4891]

THIS WAS EVERYTHING! EVERYONE DID SO GOOD + THE SONG FITS TIGERCLAW SO MUCH! (Wish he wasn't so power hunger, would've been a fabulous warrior and or deputy without it)

[@nadinesmith8134]

Ya that's what I think image of he never killed red tail and was a good guy that would have been so interesting

[@NettIefang]

IT'S HERE BABYYYY!!!!! pre-1st arc tigerclaw characterisation is always such a blast to see :D

[@Fluffadoodle]

Classic

[@Sparroet]

SONG: Sinners by Barns Courtney CREDITS SONG: Sinners (Live Acoustic) by Barns Courtney Summary: Tigerclaw was once a young promising cat with many friends, but in order to impress his violent mentor Thistleclaw, he trains hard to be a fighter and puts all his emotions down. As an adult, Tigerclaw feels stunted and unable to communicate with his old friends, especially after his mentor dies. The young cat Redtail is very impressed by Tigerclaw, and wants to befriend him, but Tigerclaw is deeply jealous of the ease with which Redtail makes friends and feels like Redtail has stolen all his friends and respect. Tigerclaw will fix this the only way he knows how: violently.

[@AutumnWarriors]

So ture 😞 I wish he had a better mentor then he could have been nice❤

[@SmurfleTheSmurf]

The credits is so cute, I don’t know why. I think it’s just small Redpaw/Redtail walking next to a massive Tigerclaw makes me happy. Anyway, the part where Tigerclaw carries Thistleclaw, his face is so emotionless. It’s like he doesn’t know if he should be happy or not. Edit: OH AND at 0:38 Lion and White’s lipsync is on time with the song. Nice detail.

[@wyveronne]

im so very fond of how this map portrays tigerclaw?! outstanding job to the animators who were able to fulfill such a cool script, very humanizing to tigerclaw- its nice to see him portrayed as an angry kitty instead of a 2d villain!

[@Starcheopteryx]

It's so nice to see a video that makes tigerclaw a more complex cat rather than just a power hungry evil guy, it made for a really interesting watch!!

[@amberestie6605]

I love seeing how much Tigerstar struggled as a kit and him being friends with White storm and Lionheart. He must have felt such rage to see little Redtail grow and surpass him knowing he was "better" Then see Firestar rising quickly in the same way. It wasn't about skill and hardwork. It was about favoritism. I wonder if Brambleclaw had to constantly watch other cats chosen as deputy because Firestar obviously didn't fully trust him if his path would have been different

[@nielscarrein2864]

I feel bad for Tigerstar. Many people overlool these facts. His hate for kittypets= His father left to become a Kittypet His cruelty= He was trained by Thistleclaw who was trained in the dark forest. He wanted to have honour from its clan. Tigerstar hated Bluestar for being an enemy from his mentor and also beceause she thought he was to cruel. Thats why he hated her. He wasn´t evil, he was broken

[@snowiilynx9317]

WOAA THIS is so WELL SCRIPTED?? AND THE WAY IT FLOWS?? Ive never seen a map about tigerstar and the root of his ambitions like this one this is genuinely so .. mnhmh tasty WONDERFULLY DONE

[@zarahpanichello8130]

Why wasn't there a tigerclaw/star super edition, this would have been a good super edition, instead we got a novella about what happed to him during the events of rising storm & a dangerous path

[@ender5908]

I earlier looked at the map parts of this, and was shocked to see it done! I had been waiting on this for a while, and happy to see it finished

[@MADRAMUZZLE]

It’s really nice to see Tigerclaw maps that don’t focus on his death and more on his past, such as his relationship with his mentor, Thistleclaw. I really love this and the song really fits!

[@Vampviz]

SINNERS LETS GO!!!

[@mommyclaws1555]

Ahh this is so good! I've been really interested in Tigerclaw and Redtail's relationship since Red got his novella and this map put such an interesting perspective on Tigerclaw's feelings! Everyone did such a great job!

[@LarkspurYT]

This is amazing!!! Also, just something I’ve noticed, this is the most realistic Tigerstar design. Most people draw him with really long fur, but if you look at the book covers he’s actually a short hair. Plus his colors are extremely similar^^

[@TheAshfurApologist]

On Scourge's Manga he's depicted with long fur.

[@LarkspurYT]

@@TheAshfurApologist I'm aware, but originally he was depicted with short hair. I find it kind of nostalgic

[@TheAshfurApologist]

@@LarkspurYT oh, I didn't know. All the online artwork I've seen of him is always him with long thick fur, and I think a lot of people, including myself, imagine him as a Maine coon.

[@LarkspurYT]

@@TheAshfurApologist Same. Because of all the modern artwork I imagine him as a main coon as well.

[@ghlilyz9802]

quite frankly this map made me see tigerclaw in a different light

[@-TheCrisisNight-]

You managed to make Tigerclaw a relatable villain and I love it

[@aubs_thedancer]

This song fits so well, and I love how this map shows Tigerclaw's relationship with Whitestorm, Lionheart, and Redtail! And how Tigerclaw could have made a great loyal warrior, but Thistleclaw brought out the evil in him. This map is just amazing all together!

[@Flamewolf333]

Now i see tigerclaw in new light and somewone other bad cats thanks of this map

[@tortellini6087]

sometimes I wonder what went through tiger man’s head when he found out his leader had an affair with a cat from the clan that practically mauled his wacky ass mentor to death and one of those kids was its deputy later on, as if that mocked him

[@entitledbobcat]

I love how young Tigerclaw and Bluefur look.

[@Tupclutch]

This song made me cry. Tigerclaw was controlled by his anger and couldn’t stop, and it went on, and on, and on.

[@sunnypeltthewarriorr]

Holy hell, this is amazing! Everyone did so good, aaaaa. I can’t get enough of this. Keep up your amazing work everyone!

[@dakotatheskeleton]

I love that tigerstar actually looks like how he does in the manga and the books

[@commenter4368]

I wonder if Tigerpaw felt the same way with Thistleclaw that Ravenpaw felt with him?

[@BG_NC]

Oh my god I never thought about the fact that Redtail basically stole his place in his friend group. Beautiful!

[@yourlocalkid123]

Holy shit it's finally done- The story is told so well on how Tigerclaw/star rose and fell! The expressions, designs and story is everythingggg

[@slothsforever9283]

Y’know, if BlueStar were to just chosen him as deputy and SunStar hadn’t of made ThistleClaw his mentor, maybe he wouldn’t be so evil…

[@hanzyria307]

I think mostly his influence was that his father left him and yeah, thistleclaw

[@slothsforever9283]

@@hanzyria307 true. Maybe that’s why he hates FireStar? Hates KittyPets and since FireStar is a former KittyPet, he might just have problems with them.

[@subyouwont]

@@slothsforever9283 yeah it’s very common for people to think firestar was so hated because pinestar

[@mistybankfarm6931]

I would loke to address that all the animators did a great job, but I'm going to give a huge shout out to Roseshards and Riley! You guys gave me my favorite parts of the entire MAP!

[@billcipher8645]

I'm so excited! Was following this map's progress for some time already

[@theshortangrylesbian]

This is why Tigerstar wasn’t a true villain in my eyes. He’d have been fine even if Pine left- just hurt. No. What TRULY made him a villain was Thistleclaw. Even then he was just aggressive and filled with anger. What pushes him was he was older and more experienced than Redtail and Bluestar chose him instead. He tried to be a good, loyal, and strong ThunderClan warrior. I’m my eyes, he’s not a true villain, just everything that could’ve possibly went wrong in his life- literally went wrong. Even his friends weren’t true friends. Sure they didn’t know so I see that but they showed no remorse or sympathy-

[@ameilajones7766]

We need a Tigerstar super novella!

[@cometolily]

Stop I live for the fact that you made Redtail look like a Redtail catfish

[@Sally777]

Oh my God!!! This is a great MAP, how happy I am that I participated in it. We all made a very beautiful and cool map. Well done to all of us. Thank you for noticing me and letting me participate in this masterpiece map. I love you, thank you very much ^^. I want to participate in your maps again>:3

[@arachnits]

YESSSSSSS SINNER TIME

[@alyssagross5360]

I love RoseShards art so darn much

[@Uncooked_chkn]

At 3:00 - im sorry the head looked very big- It was good tho!

[@_eclipsefall0908]

I've been really looking forward to this map! The finished work is expected. everyone is great

[@ENTP2323]

I like to believe, once, Tigerclaw strived to be the most loyal and respected cat in the forest. To think he got so desperate for leadership.

[@LettuceBettuce]

SINNERS 4 LIFE

[@Crazy._.AnimationsLOL]

during tiger paw's apprentice ship, it makes same feel bad for him, if only he told others how he felt being somewhat ignored when fire star came then maybe he could have been a little bit better?

[@taylorhindsmorrison5859]

Even as an apprentice, white storm still looks like a middle aged guy

[@taylorhindsmorrison5859]

Which is a good thing

[@Your-mom651]

I love this I feel bad for him when thistle was his mentor

[@crowla]

This is really cool!

[@jayyyyy2.0]

Wow I also really like that you Showed the live he had bevore he turned evil and there is even something from Redtail's dept👍👍👍

[@sralefty5586]

This make me return to the warriors fandom!

[@Echofrost5]

A little late, but better than never This was ABSOLUTELY BEAUTIFUL! The artists really pulled this together splendidly! I love how much it showed of his apprenticeship! Tigerclaw wanted to be a great warrior for his clan after his father left. then his mentor trained him to be ruthless, but at the same time he wanted to be friends with the others of his den. It really showed the corruption of him. Thank you to everyone who participated and brought this together!

[@sralefty5586]

Omg so cool! Great job! Great animation!!

[@a_lien]

This looks so amazing!! Everyone did good job!

[@Nixum]

This turned out so amazing!!

[@thatartkiddo]

Absolutely amazing! Stunning!!

[@Picklecatto_hehe]

This is awesome!!!!

[@Misscouchpotato-]

This is really good! 💖

[@ilikenachossometimes1088]

Awesome map and awesome thumbnail! Can’t wait!

[@bluecake_animation3821]

Amazing MAP, everyone did an AMAZING job :)

[@comedianincharge8869]

This was great

[@redmoonz2662]

Oh my god! Such an amazing animation ! Love it!

[@xxdeadlyxxcat888movedchann4]

Wow! This turned out great! I am looking up to the next map you host! I love this!😍😍😍

[@lavendertown9793]

AHH this is amazing!!

[@meeepteh_potate7759]

OMG THIS WAS SOOO GOOD

[@lef2617]

That was sooo gooood! The transitions, Oh my god, I love it! 😍

[@yadirabaeza7110]

Omg, everybody did such a good job! Its so awesome 👌

[@makusedorikkuwilde7314]

Can't wait love animations there are awesome ^ω^

[@idunnowhattoputhere05]

Beautiful!!!!

[@_mousepaw_6697]

WOW It's look amazing!

[@volespirit247]

Great to finally see the full project

[@bubbledafoxy]

I LOVED IT SO MUCH GREAT JOB EVERYONE!

[@TWartzz]

Happy I could help out in this amazing map!

[@Gold_Pup]

This came out so gooooood Everyone did amazing!! ^^

[@spirit_wind]

Damn it! I missed the premiere, but good work everyone!

[@Senswii]

thanks for letting me participate!

[@Ryeven]

wow this is amazing !!!!! yall did so hecking good !!!!! ^^^^

[@heytiptoes5910]

Came back and OH MY LORD IT LOOKS SO GOOD WELL DONE TO ALL THE ARTISTS LIKE WHAT.

[@WeirdBookworm]

THIS IS ABSOLUTELY AMAZING GREAT JOB!

[@felisadidas4932]

YOOO this is so cool!!! Every single part is so beautiful

[@marleyisgay7449]

This turned out amazing! Everyone did a great job.

[@elizabethgrove6830]

This is absolutely stunning, tells a brilliant story and has brilliant character analysis! Great work!

[@DragonwolfRooke]

This MAP turned out so good!!

[@FizzyFlameDrop2722]

amazing work everyone!

[@Loporidae]

Love this map!!!

[@_obsessedescapist_]

Yay finally! Good map

[@DrSam938]

This is so a good MAP and well animated.

[@ameilajones7766]

I love the shock in Redtails eyes as Tigerclaw killed him!

[@DarkieAre_Here]

I loved watching this! It was so cute and dark!

[@just_kc3159]

Wow this map is great

[@c-c-combobreakrr917]

Ahhhh! It’s out! So excited, it’s put together so well and all the parts are so great! So much talent!

[@ANGUS-zn9st]

It's just awesome! Very good work everyone!! And what an animation!! And wool!!! WAAAAA!!

[@mlpmadness2911]

This is such a good map!

[@Ana-dn5fl]

Love the collab you did for credits! Congratulations everyone, it flows very well

[@kpcroxful]

This map turned out so beautifully!!! I'm I'm happy to have participated

[@GobboProtector]

So glad I had the pleasure of participating in this!