TigerStop

[@merwinhaight1880]

A nice setup for a small cabinet or woodworking shop doing production work, as for a job site tool.....time will tell.Thanks for showing us this Ron !

[@instantsiv]

I don't see the value is paying that much for just automating the measurement part. That money could be better spent elsewhere imo.

[@TigerStopLLC]

You got it!

[@bighands69]

@@instantsiv I you are doing high volume work that needs repeated cuts then that tool could be very useful.

[@instantsiv]

@@bighands69 I'm sure it's useful but the cost benefit is low, there's other places to spend the difference which will get better results in a high volume environment.

[@Whitehorns]

And the hair styles match...

[@jrgt628]

Yeah Ron what's up with the hair? Is that your retirement look lol

[@TigerStopLLC]

Totally intentional

[@vladone428]

Can we get a show with just Elizabeth? That might be my new favorite channel.

[@jeffforbes3772]

She's hot...but she needs safety glasses. Just that.

[@mitchjones2821]

Jeff Forbes why? To run a mitre saw?! GTFOH

[@TigerStopLLC]

haha we will pass along the kind words!

[@TigerStopLLC]

@@jeffforbes3772 Definitely would be hotter with safety glasses.

[@scottjohnson3226]

Looks like a very nice, well thought out product.

[@VCGConstruction]

That is pretty sweet!

[@RustyCas999]

Some folks who would balk at the price of this think nothing of plopping down $50K for a pickup, loaded with stuff no one actually needs.

[@TheSmartWoodshop]

Rusty, I couldn't agree more. In construction, a new truck has the lowest possible ROI. I never buy new trucks and there is not one thing a 2019 50K truck can do that my very nice, nicer than I need, $20K truck can do, except cost more in every way. When it comes to camera gear, I will throw money at it and never consider ROI. But in construction, I don't chase shinney things: it's a positive ROI or I don't bite.

[@TheOneWhoMightBe]

@@TheSmartWoodshop There's a bloke we see at the local big box hardware who's been driving the same truck since 1976. On its second engine and gearbox, but it's repaid him plenty. Then you look in the next lane and it's full of $100k rolling ego boosters.

[@RustyCas999]

@@TheOneWhoMightBe "rolling ego boosters'.... I'll have to remember that.

[@bighands69]

@@RustyCas999 Anybody who spends that sort of money on a truck, saw or some fancy German tool is a fool. On the other hand I think it is perfectly acceptable to spend that money on a Porsche. And I know that I am always right no matter what.

[@goatsears]

Next step for this bit of kit would be a measuring device that wirelessly transferred the measurement to the saw station.

[@noeldc]

On average, how long would a $3000 tape measure take to pay for itself?

[@goatsears]

Lot's of variables there, if you are a trim carpenter who cuts timber all day long and the bit of kit lasts 10 years lets say 500 weeks work then it would cost $1.2 dollars per working day (a 5 day week) If it only lasts 5 years then double that.If it saves you half an hour a day then its earning you money...

[@itskevinhood]

@@goatsears correct me if I'm wrong, but it sounds like if this piece of gear costs $1.20 per working day, then if it saves you more than an couple minutes per day it is earning you money....

[@goatsears]

@@itskevinhood I don't know how much a trim carpenter expects to earn a day in the US, I also don't know how long this bit of kit would last, therefore I cannot say exactly how much money it will make/save....

[@TigerStopLLC]

Depends on how much you cut per day. Are you cutting thousands of parts a day using a tape? Well that could be costing you hundreds of dollars a day in wasted labor hours. In that case this could pay for itself in two weeks. How expensive is the material you are cutting? Some customers cut copper pipe that's $50 a foot. Anytime you miscut that's an expensive mistake! Most customers find that SawGear pays for itself within the first few months, easily.

[@noeldc]

@@TigerStopLLC Thanks for the reply. It's a great product.

[@gsh319]

Think she's digging ya at 5:21 Ron,.... does the bar fold up and out of the way when laying up a long piece of trim?, and can you still use crown stops or does the bed have to have a fixed attachment to the saw table?.. I think I would miss cranking out a sweet piece of steel tape! Thanks as always Ron, appreciate all the work and info ya always getting out.

[@TigerStopLLC]

The bar does fold up if you'd like (you can customize it). And we also manufacture crown molding pusher foots for cutting crown.

[@Eagleye7638]

Love seeing new tools that use tech. Unfortunately I wish you could Demo for a week. Battery operated?

[@TheSmartWoodshop]

Agreed, I would like to test one in the field for a month setting it up, packing it, and seeing if my production and material usage improved and then measure it against the cost. Production shops would see the ROI quickly, but how would it affect a solo carpenter's bottom line. Similarly, as a one-person shop, I have yet to embrace CNC as I can produce faster with router and templates. I have considered a CNC just to make accurate templates as I have gone up against a very high-end 100K CNC and beat it every time in output once the templates are produced.

[@Eagleye7638]

@@TheSmartWoodshop I agree, keep up the excellent work, love your channel. I appreciate the video's because the questions you ask are real....and you can tell theirs no previous conversations with the vendors.

[@MsEasterbrook]

Would be great for a cabinet maker/furniture maker who repeats a lot of dimensions

[@TigerStopLLC]

Exactly! Anyone who needs repeat of dimensions, or even guys who make a lot of custom cuts (you can program them in.)

[@bighands69]

@@TigerStopLLC It would be great for fast clean workshop cutting.

[@koubasaki]

She's cute

[@RobBeene]

Wow, great way to increase production. I’ll bet future versions include Bluetooth tape measures.

[@jrsuk1170]

What about switching between square cuts, mitre and bevel cuts? Surely it would need to be re calibrated for each individual application. Waste of money for my needs.

[@TigerStopLLC]

Nope, no need to re-calibrate. We have software built in called Crown+Miter Pro that compensates for the angles.

[@bobd.]

One question you should have asked Ron was does it have memories that you can use to save measurements that you use repeatedly. And if yes how many are there. Would be great to have 3 or 4 buttons to which you could save some lengths and have a small place where you could write with a pencil the measurement or a note. Hit one button and go.

[@areabum]

I saw in their promo video that you can make 10 lists with up to 10 measurements each.

[@TigerStopLLC]

Yup! You can program and save up to 100 different cuts. You can hit the list button and press start and you're ready to go.

[@DKWalser]

That's very cool.

[@petersiciliano5935]

That’s cool... don’t know if it’s $3000 cool, though; especially since it’s only for one side 🤔 - thanks for showing us that, Ron!

[@TheSmartWoodshop]

3K is up there, but as with any tool investment, I would need to consider the ROI. Labor is by far the highest cost in construction and materials if cut wrong can slow the job and cost as well. I would take a hard look at both of these costs and spreadsheet the time to recover the investment and then how long will the TigerStop last in the field. This would be a business consideration breaking it down to dollars and not one about emotion. I have been a carpenter for over 30 years so tools for me are only considered if they offer ROI: safety, ergonomics, efficiency, accuracy, production.

[@HBSuccess]

These have been around for at least 15 yrs- you gotta get out more Ron lol.

[@TheOneWhoMightBe]

For $3k I'm a bit surprised it doesn't self-calibrate. It's only as accurate as your measurement is (so take that extra few seconds and do it right).

[@neilbarnwell]

Seems like it could easily have a flip-out probe that resets zero by touching a tooth on the blade, but that wouldn't account for wobble in the blade. Measuring the resulting work is a great idea, as long as you do it accurately, as you say. I reckon I'd keep a bit of melamine around, or MDF (or even aluminium cross-section, depending on the blade) and take 2mm off it and measure with calipers each time I wanted to calibrate it.

[@TigerStopLLC]

There's virtually no need to recalibrate once it is dialed in. We have guys who use this thing for years and years without ever having to reset any dimensions. Getting it zeroed in takes less than a minute and you're set. There can't be a self-calibrate because calibration has to take into account so many other factors- kerf, last time you changed your saw blade, etc etc. We have guys who use SawGears on ironworkers, drills, presses, etc so not all tools are created equally.

[@furman87]

Nice use of KZbin thumbnails, I definitely clicked because of her. And yeah, $3000 is pretty steep.

[@dsfastmustang]

How tough is it? what if your milling some 8 quarter x12' red oak and bump it 100 times in two days is it going to stay in calibration?

[@HBSuccess]

Short answer -no. Not a SawGear. But they make an industrial version (steel) that permanently mounts that would be fine with that.

[@Jraksdhs]

Tom silva has been using this thing for years. Its not new.

[@A_Concerned_Citizen]

Okay? What’s your point

[@marksteven3534]

Thats why its called This OLD House ??

[@kmonnier]

She's jealous of your hair.

[@TigerStopLLC]

He's definitely a fashion icon.

[@stevengordon5511]

These are crap my one went out and every time you turn it off it needs rescaling

[@woodworkchannel3353]

Its nice but 3000 is quite steep imo

[@MrFakit]

She looks like Iggy Azalea in the thumbnail lol

[@jasonchristiansen9063]

Iggy azalea got another job..... wow

[@Javier-hy4uw]

iggy azalea meets dua lipa!

[@anthonygerali7220]

💲💲

[@thomaswayne6731]

I think Elizabeth could sell you anything

[@ricky4001cs]

Im a big fan of Elizabeth.

[@TigerStopLLC]

How many did you buy?! ;)

[@jesuschrist1501]

when she pulled out a tape measure i panicked for a bit...

[@Harambe_]

Jesus christ dude...

[@redrhino3041]

Ooofff

[@80211Denver]

I kinda feel like a spelling nag but... Eye protection!