COH3 1v1 Rei (US) vs Havoc (WM)

Company of Heroes 3 Rei (US Forces, Advanced Infantry) vs Havoc (Wehrmacht, Italian Coastal) on Faymonville
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[@ArrangedKarma]

Wehr high level play: I press Panzergren US high level play: I press Riflemen The unstoppable force meets the immovable object

[@army_of_stom7051]

Coh3 at the peak

[@Someloke8895]

At the risk of over-meme-ing it.... I see a Tightrope Video, naturally I click it, that's my style, Sir!

[@bigjimmyenglish]

And a mighty fine style you have, Sir!

[@etherealdragon123]

Devs: We increased the pop of Rifles to limit effectiveness of Rifle Spam Rei: Hold my beer

[@doodool101]

the sniper gained vet quickly because it was killing vet 3 units and you gain more vet for killing high vetted units

[@Ratzo123ify]

As much as I dislike 6> rifle builds being viable, it’s pretty impressive watching someone micro all of that effectively. Pretty sure my brain would fry if I tried it.

[@tightropegaming]

It is incredibly difficult to manage when you are being attacked everywhere all the time. Very overwhelming.

[@eviola11]

Did the Hot Fix today fix the balance issues with 1.8?

[@kerrypaz7576]

Definitely an adjustment. DAK cheese is solved.

[@Nat9999]

But still enemy at the gates soldiers will be a problem along with AT guns spam and brummbars

[@bro3217]

@@kerrypaz7576dak is back to being shit*

[@ericyuan9718]

Might buy coh3 finally just because pgrens look like they perform like coh2 pgrens. I don't know why but I just love em so much.

[@Zaxxon95]

Bit of a greasy build from Rei… I think vs any average Joe it would’ve dominated with the capping power. Glad to see Havoc take that one.

[@willaguy1260]

Meanwhile Havoc used transfer order on coastals and the bugged Panzergrens, I don’t think either player didn’t make use of something very strong pre-hotfix

[@sgtsmith501]

Well italien reserves felt like a misclick of a commander pick. Didnt use much of anything

[@TrueKaras]

Costals are there to cap some points IMMEDIATELY and then to get promoted to Italian Panzergrenadiers Instant Fix Bunker is quite useful now

[@arcturus64]

I'm suspecting the sniper getting vet 1 in 5 kills is because of the experience mechanic. Basically if you kill vet 3 units you get way more experience than killing vet 0 units. I believe this was done to help people catch up when facing opponents with higher veterancies.

[@bigjimmyenglish]

Just in time for the morning poop! Niceeeee!

[@araulius2132]

italian reserves are ready to serve

[@蔡林翰-v2m]

我就不懂，為甚麼不把下方的地圖守好，HMG跟PG 很明顯更適合下面窄口地形，而且油料點跟彈藥都有兩個 在基地旁邊蓋一個地堡就完全可以守住撤退路線 然後他浪費了大量的彈藥在PG的技能上 幾乎殺不到人，卻不用更好的手榴彈 27:06 這場第一次用就有不錯的傷害 整場幾乎沒有裝甲對戰，全是步兵的對戰讓我想到 HOI4 的MEME；後半場的拉鋸戰我已經看不下去了，後備軍的衝鋒完全沒有發揮到應有的價值，根本是送經驗的，明知道對面有灰熊，卻只出了LT 而不是地獄貓，三百多的油料仿佛嘲笑著跑斷腿的士兵們

[@stellar_ape]

Do you know if coastals transfer into an elite unit is an exploit or an intended mechanic?

[@MW-hv1cl]

Anyone else think Stummel ROF and projectile speed is just too high? that thing spits out shells like no tomorrow. Also, why does it get the phosphorous shell? to counter its counters? seems like it's not vulnerable enough.

[@alexhughes7331]

I think the stummel is fairly balanced and that havoc used it really well in this match up, it doesn’t help that Rei didn’t even make a counter for the stummel until 18 minutes into the match. The stummel is pretty fragile considering that a single snare can take it to about 50% hp. I think the main reason why you see the stummel doing such an excellent job in this match is because havoc is kiting it very well and he didn’t have to worry about any AT measures from rei until the match was already halfway over

[@itwasjustaluck]

At moment, USF is at 44% winrate in 1v1 Brit is at 46% Wer is at 52% DAK is at 57% Axis need nerf for sure.

[@tightropegaming]

In the rank bracket these guys play in USF has a 55.3% winrate

[@ironfiskur]

@@tightropegaming I know this might be a little much for a KZbin comment, but could you explain why there is such a disparity between the low and high skill bracket? You would think it would be within 5% or so with them playing with the same unit, but 11%? I don’t know how it could be such a drastic swing.

[@jayros4269]

@@ironfiskur Perhaps the strong USF strategies require intense micro.

[@bubbasbigblast8563]

@@ironfiskur It mostly comes down to the infantry: Panzergrenadiers are good, but Manpower expensive, and Riflemen with BARs can more-or-less match them, which helps with taking and holding points. In the past, Stummels and 8-Rads could negate that advantage fairly quickly, but those were nerfed, so Wher needs to be very on point with machine guns and the like for a fairly long time to not fall behind. Of course, the situation is reversed later: nothing at the Motor Pool threatens thick armor now, so going ISC means you need to rush to get Hellcats out if Wher is itself rushing for heavy armor/Stugs. Hellcats are quite vulnerable themselves though, so USF will still be playing mostly from behind after that point, unless you're really good with Bazooka Teams or something.

[@蔡林翰-v2m]

18:37 這距離有夠扯的耶，真的能打這麼遠?

[@jayros4269]

Damn what is this meta.

[@rmartin987]

Man, for a high level 1v1 there seems to be significantly more blobbing vs coh2

[@tightropegaming]

Was there a lot of blobbing this game? In spite of there being so many squads it was rare to see more than 2 from each team in one area of the map.

[@junctiontime]

MGs were not adjusted when basic riflemen’s TTK was buffed to the stratosphere, so with a little veterancy and weaponry a blob of them can usually just attack move an mg frontally with high levels of success. Edit: The MG42 is perhaps the only exception to this, though it is also worse after the TTK adjustment.

[@diego2817]

Man is not blob, US has a special skill to send some unmanaged troops.

[@rmartin987]

@@tightropegaming I may be overly harsh but it felt like there were minimal tactics. Early game ally charged in with rifles, once axis got PG they would just charge in. Aside from assaulting MG didn’t feel like allied player attempted many flanks just frontal assaults. Doesn’t help that the allied ability literally calls in a blob.

[@蔡林翰-v2m]

呃，槍聲太小，火炮的爆炸聲又太大，很傷耳朵

[@manueleytorff6471]

sniper got some vet 3 kills thats why he veted up so fast.

[@misterchoc2893]

Man panzergranadiers are terminators. This is bs that you need invest fuel and muni just to get rifles on good level. Atleast one bar should be available for only muni and then second as global upgrade for fuel.

[@willaguy1260]

They were bugged this patch before the hotfix, their close range DPS was increased by 15% when the devs intended it to be 5%

[@misterchoc2893]

@@willaguy1260 Yeah they patch them but still i think 40 fuel for bars is bad design. As as said before first bar should be always available for 60 muni if you want second you need upgrade.

[@bro3217]

Yes, a 340mp unit that requires you to build a 40 fuel building along with tier 1 should shit on basic 260 manpower upgraded riflemen

[@misterchoc2893]

@@bro3217 Bulding that you need anyway so whats the point ? What i want to say is bars are nececery in mid game but 40 fuel slows down your tech. I get it that panzergranadiers are on same level double bar rifles but what i dont like is fuel upgrade. Especially when you want only two rifle squad.

[@diego2817]

Hate the coh2 plain maps in coh3, I love rhe original coh3 maps with dome heights and many buldings, hope devs can realize how voring a plain map looks

[@stellar_ape]

Havoc is destroy Rei