COH3 Hotfix Patch 1.8.1

[@gdzn5179]

Relic fix 5 problems and make 6 new ones every patch.

[@oscarbarrios]

first time?

[@Alexvondark]

😂😂😂

[@oscarbarrios]

Why doesn't lelic just hire or consult with Tightrope on balance? (I am sure 99999 ppl have asked the same)

[@zbigniew2628]

Coz they prefer a safespace and shield themselves by bureaucracy claims.

[@oscarbarrios]

@@zbigniew2628 what?

[@MrAerohank]

DAK should probably get a medtent at this point.

[@kerrypaz7576]

Back to Helldivers

[@TehGnomeh]

Instead of Democracy, MANAGED DEMOCRACY

[@TigranTumoian]

I wouldn't mind 25sec build time for PalmGrens, but 30sec is too much. Seems like bike + bersas is the only viable early game strat for DAK (1v1) now. Otherwise, I don't even know how DAK is supposed to keep up with USF field presence.

[@TheSpawnTrapper]

Yeah Armor Company is still extremely hard to deal with.

[@Elite_1650]

Another thing is all other mainlines are around a 20 second build time. Yes you do need tech to build them, but for example riflemen for US in 1v1s you tend to see an early wave of them and they are out super early. Making it like you said really difficult to keep up with as DAK I haven’t played a 1v1 yet in this new patch. With my previous games though I found sometimes, I was facing 2 rifles and a supporting squad or 2 by the time I had 2 prgens out due to my krad for capping. I personally wouldn’t mind a 25 second build time also, due to no tech being required and now that combined arms can be gained by supporting ultra lights. So hopefully next hotfix its either reverted or changed to 25, cause I don’t want to be forced into the same bg in order to keep up in 1v1s.

[@Bountyxandrew]

It was the only viable. As i said in 1.7 - they don't realise that DAK useless

[@zbigniew2628]

@@Elite_1650 The whole thing of 20sec build time for PGrens, was to compensate for a longer walk time, coz you can not build base closer to a front.... Second Pgren Already arived at the same time as second rifleman, due to walk distance. But this dev team at this point is just stupid. I do not care anymore and left this BS.

[@junctiontime]

I think the med truck should get medics running around for free reinforcements like the other factions have (while it's hand braked in base sector) but no extra survivability; you should continue to need mines to prevent base inspection snipes on it. This would make an interesting decision, to put it further up for more efficient casualty recovery, or further back for safety.

[@shiroespiral260]

I wish I could resubscribe all over again after your intro! Great video and please keep making more

[@matthewferraiolo6807]

why the med truck change?? Its already DAKs only reliable source of healing, plus every other faction can have a med truck on the frontline but its only a problem when DAK does it? I would be perfectly happy if every med truck got 1 shotted by AT but why just DAK??

[@noboddy999]

I love your humor at the start. Keep up the nice work! :D

[@Zaxxon95]

Great coverage, as always!

[@MilkerName]

*DAK:* "I die... I LIVE!!.. I die again."

[@chandlerz3366]

the part is we just live for a week. Everything DAK use will be seen as spam, you use PG nerf, bike nerf, fireman nerf, l6 nerf, like everything 😂every time you just find a way to play then relic kill it with a hotfix. Checked cpm or other data, how hard the Dak player need to control those unit.

[@MilkerName]

​@@chandlerz3366 Yeah, stuff like the Palmgren nerfs were shocking. I really hope that it was done based on gathered data, instead of just a way to 'further stem' DAK's inflated winrate from the overbuffed Italian Infantry BG. I'm also not too keen on the Medtruck health nerf - primarily just cuz' I think it's wacky that a tricycle is now more durable than a large truck! 😆

[@chandlerz3366]

@@MilkerName surprised they think everything from base is OP, pg bike 250, in this late armor patch.

[@oscarbarrios]

that intro made me spill my coffee dude xD

[@yevhensemenchuk6695]

Dat intro X)

[@dennisdebont4233]

And Pgrenz for DAK are useless again! Time to undust the bersaglieri again.

[@jandamz1119]

They could revert the health on the medtruck only if the 2 Vehicle upgrades that adds health don't affect it (tbh I'd rather they rework the upgrades). 180 is a good compromise though if they still want to keep those health upgrades. It taking 3 TD/AT gun rounds in late game while every other truck just needs 2 is dumb. Also it's funny that the truck has/had the same HP as that of the Humber (tbf the UKF truck has higher health than the Humber too).

[@zbigniew2628]

No surprise that 2x L6 are way better vs inf than greyhound as they should be... It is 425mp 70fuel 100 muni and 2 CP points, without dmg vs vehicles after upgrade.... Idk how people expect one zook squad to be enough vs it. In earlier patches greyhound was able to 1v1 Pjager and probably still can with MG upgrade.

[@alexanderschumacher7101]

If you pulled it up the win rate in the 1250-1400 the win rate for DAK was 64%. I was 1200 elo and playing US during 1.8 dropped me down to 1050.

[@manolomanoki9915]

Thats prob your real elo 1050

[@Bountyxandrew]

Because USF has better and cheaper units

[@zbigniew2628]

USF was easy mode for ages.... It is elo inflation + low Elo players can not play vs shock units. They should get rid of bugs and CA for Bike, or make CA vet1 pick between mark ability or an upgrade after T1.

[@justsomeguysHandleChangedByYT]

Guasta and L6 is the reason. lelic being lelic decided to "fix" problems into existence neffing dak early game

[@c0mmanderKeen]

11/10 intro tighty

[@sawassasin7471]

Med truck😢

[@georgfischer2328]

Thx again for actually showing the impact of the changes on the battlefield - great job! I really don t understand the multiple changes and severe changes to krad and Palm Grens. After 1 week of 1.8.0 the krad is drastically nerfed with 30 sec repair, less hp... as well as the Palm grens. The issue how the buffs to palmgrens was explained for 1.8.0 was the poor lategame performance which often led to mass vehicles in lategame. Now with grens basically the same as before, nothing changed and AK will have an even worse time in lategame due to the sharp nerfs to 8Rad. I really don t understand this fast and multiple nerfs in such a short time. By 1.8.1 they are completely reversing their own correct analysis... really bad

[@SneakyFridge1]

A fiery intro to be sure

[@SuperKrisNOR2]

Why are you not on the balance team? Relic has noooo clue What they Are doing with balance

[@MW-hv1cl]

because that would take a job away from one of Relic's people, and for some reason the industry is afraid of players getting into the balance decisions. just my take on it though

[@pascalbourelier3463]

@@MW-hv1cl Mate, CoH3's balance team IS entirely composed of CoH players from CoH1 & 2 xD

[@SuperKrisNOR2]

@@pascalbourelier3463 obviously the wrong players 😂 Game is trash balance wise atm

[@Schaden-freude]

coh2 was run by gaemers for years and it was the same rollercoaster

[@dds2491]

Relic need to stop reading reddit community XD

[@jackobrien47]

Good to see the hotfixes to obviously bugged nonsense but it still feels like Relic are just mad anytime people produce anything other than mainline infantry. MGs are still terrible, light vehicles get punished by super snares if they have the audacity to come within a mile of a mainline blob and have been nerfed massively. How can they look at the insane rifleman "anti everything" spam and think this is fine?

[@JDX45]

So Lelic removing what made coh3 fun and unique and turning it back into the coh1 infantry snowball chess game. "Noice"

[@RafaelKutby]

I am glad they balanced the win rate at 30 % it was hard but thanks relic

[@justlichtenstein]

Hi tightrope, do you know if the L6 nerf also encompasses its damage vs medtent? Since that's not exactly a production building per se.

[@georgfischer2328]

Heal Truck for DAK got deleted. Just go in with a light vehicle and destroy it. I really was happy with 1.8.0 and started playing, now it s just even worse than before. Honestly, why tune down so many things at once?! So stupid...

[@CommanderInBed]

epic as always

[@onurkaratay6297]

oh my poor Stoßtruppen 😢

[@andypandy2848]

If Dak are over nerfed collect data until feb patch and re assess then.

[@georgfischer2328]

Please check Guastatori DPS ind coh3 stats dps comparison. Dropped down from 60 to 40?!

[@JackBodnar]

How about just giving a “lockdown” for the med truck? DAK is already too mobile in terms of healing and repairs (passive repair for a faction with all core units and 1 out of 2 BG being able to repair is REDACTED to say the least)

[@SuperKrisNOR2]

If you watch the video it’s what he said 😂

[@FabianGrimbeorn]

Por favor Relic contrata a tightrope para el equipo de balance!!!

[@TheMiandondon]

:06 BBQ TIGHTROPE

[@wanheda0408]

Still no base healing for AK....

[@manolomanoki9915]

T4 and 400 manpower just to get crapped on by 260mp t1 section thats not even trained, what a great unit lmao

[@SAWimp1]

supply surplus is limited to strategic points only... just sayin

[@spades04]

Commandos 👏👏

[@zehaochen7847]

240hp to 160hp nerf？what were they thinking？ is 200hp not enough？

[@antoniomuntoni6536]

If it was reduced to 200 you'd be saying why not 190. You just need to complain about something.

[@zehaochen7847]

A 1/3 hp nerf rarely happen，even for a support unit. Ambulances of other factions don‘t get such nerf either. Give actual points or just shut up instead of showing off that you are some rabid dog biting random people.

[@VikingKong.]

Surprised they never touched British MG bunkers in this patch, they're the most useless shit in the game. All the other bunkers can take a beating, British one dies to a single barrage from a light mortar, it's literally an unusable waste of 250mp.

[@TheSpawnTrapper]

Meanwhile Wehr can spam 150 mp Concrete Bunkers.

[@CHEESENSPIEL]

lmao the Kradschutzen got deleted

[@directorscut4707]

It was fun while it lasted :D At least one time I burnt the enemies bases down lol

[@steveh8658]

The LG 40 had a range of up to 6 km. The scale on this game is broken.

[@Schaden-freude]

its an arcade rts not men of war

[@steveh8658]

@@Schaden-freude Uh huh...So even in an arcade RTS, an LG 40 can't outrange an MG 42? It's beyond arcade, more fantasy. Yep. Fantasy RTS. I geddit now.

[@GrandxxGxx]

Hi tightrope , can you feature a replay of mine ?

[@schovar9007]

I can’t do this anymore… every patch and every hotfix, allies don’t get seriously nerfs but axis. I refuse to play allies. My elo were 1300 but now I’m at 990 (Wehr and dak ). Sometimes it feels like u have nothing to defend against the inf spamm or vehicle spamm. Ure powerless and that’s a shit feeling. After 1.8.0 I had hope and had fun again to play ! But now it’s dead for me again. Where is the deal, that allie units are cheaper, faster, can the same or better for lesser costs… dafuq The only tool against allies getting nerfed like Brummbär from 100 fuel to 120 Stummel Upgrade… Vision to react… kettenkrad can’t be invisible anymore while scouting. Kradschützen is deleted. -10 vision and -40 hp ?! If it’s stationary the vision goes up to 55 ( hell yeah…) while a dingo is stinger, faster and has a base vision of 55!!!!! There are no reasons for that, dead game and big mass. Don’t get me wrong, I don’t blame cuz I’m German too. I blame cuz I loved the series for more then 15 years. I’m happy that allies can enjoy but what’s about the axis players ? I’m sure lelic is about to kill more then the half community with that

[@mariomarques8491]

Last patch axis was 80% in 4v4 gamea

[@robertlajko2292]

@@mariomarques8491 Lasted one week and before that alies has 60-65 win rates in all mode for like 3 month

[@schovar9007]

@@mariomarques8491 1 time in history for 1 week. gg

[@Robyn_Bank]

1 step ahead, 4 steps backwards, thats the relic way. anyway, seems like my coh days are over, allready played only co-op vs AI and singleplayer becose multiplayer is not fun nor balanced, but with the way its heading, its better just quit all togheter... more time for hoi4 shenarigans and mod play i guess.

[@Zoulrage]

It amazes me how nebbles hasnt been nerfed even tho they have been op since day 1

[@kerrypaz7576]

Axis gotta have something

[@Schaden-freude]

they were dogshit day one what are you talking about? they couldnt gain vet with their aoe burn for months

[@kevinrivera1164]

The other medtrucks should get the same change.

[@scorpiontdalpha9799]

The only other med truck is the british one

[@TigranTumoian]

@@scorpiontdalpha9799 except USF and WH can also upgrade their half trucks into med trucks.

[@scorpiontdalpha9799]

@@TigranTumoian But HT is stronger than a truck so I think it is fair. Also with the way USF tech is, I don't think it is too bad

[@tightropegaming]

I think part of the reason they did this was the DAK truck getting buffs from the armory making it even more durable in the late game, now it is similar to those other options once the upgrades are online.

[@drejer100]

@@tightropegaming Yeah, that would be fair if the Medtruck got smokes and self repair from those upgrades. But since it doesn't, so they should just have exempted it from the upgrades completely and kept it at 280

[@SuperKrisNOR2]

Relic simply can’t make games anymore, they mess up more than they fix lmao 😂

[@pascalbourelier3463]

Base sector modifier like CoH2 is a terrible solution, completely artificial. UKF med truck has 40 more HP, what's the deal? Get DaK med truck back to 240hp, simple as that. It was already a chore to get it to vet1, now it's litterally impossible to play with it even in chill vs Ai games.

[@regeveliya]

Bad fix

[@golgol4903]

CoH2 is more popular than 3 according to Steam so they should release a patch to CoH2, lol.

[@lextert1257]

Coh3 is less popular only because of relic stupidity 1.5 years since release and game is still unbalanced shit with blobbing meta (such thing is inamagainble in 2)

[@Schaden-freude]

@@lextert1257 yeah blobs never happened in coh2. lmao

[@adiandries682]

Why not? What was different? Genuine question no irony, i never played coh2