I Got Called Out by a HATER... **My Response**

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Mike Andes, Tigran Gertz, Mowing Lawns is for stupid people, How to start a successful landscaping business, why you will never make money mowing lawns, Mowing lawns is a waste of time, stop mowing lawns, how to mow lawns, how to do landscaping jobs, buying new mowers, how do i stop mowing lawns, how to start laying pavers, my lawn care setup, what tools to buy for lawn care, what tools to buy for paving business, where can i learn to pavers, Tigran Gertz and mike andes,

[@VictoryOutdoorServices]

Celebrity boxing match for ALL the clout. Winner take all, I’ll personally ref. Let me know 😂

[@johnshuagart3068]

T knows what he’s doing and he’s dedicated I feel lucky to have found his channel. Don’t forget to make sure your old guys are treating your young guys with respect. It can turn a dream job into a anxiety/stress producing nightmare and make good young workers quit. The potential is there for those who want to learn.

[@emmanuelm07536]

😂😂😂😂 these haters are so funny, how can you hate on a self made man?? Bless up Tigran.

[@wesleyperry3726]

Dude I'm in lawn care & landscaping and I love watching both of yours and Mike's content. It cracks me up seeing you guys talk trash! Thanks for always keepin' it real and for putting out your inspirational content!

[@MikeAndes]

GREAT VIDEO!! Thanks for sharing more of the numbers. Awesome to see them! It will help many. I know you did labor based OH recovery, I made a video on Sunday and specifically mentioned this..... Just wanted you to cover the numbers and talk about the overhead like you did in this video so people don't misinterpret and lose their shirt going for the $250K job out of the gate. GREAT WORK!

[@hartmanholmes]

What color is your Lamborghini?🤡

[@Joehustl73884]

@@hartmanholmes he recently spent $340K on starting 4 more Augusta locations so probably spent it on that instead cuz he is money hungry. But gotta give him props for building a company that created hundreds of jobs

[@hartmanholmes]

@@Joehustl73884 I just asked what color his lambo was

[@glclawncarellccentraltexas8766]

I guess we learned a lesson here. Never stick your nose on other people business.

[@business._ben7940]

Listen you guys. I love both of you guys and I take advice from both of you. There is no reason to bitch at each other. You guys both make LOTS of money and do it different ways. Please just settle this.

[@710dantheman]

T didn’t even have to make this video. Having his type of success in the Silicon Valley speaks for itself.

[@BurpeesGiant]

Keep doing what you do! Love you dawg! From a real one to a real one! Keep hustlen!

[@luistercero430]

haha "Chasing around baby money"!!! love it .

[@JamesofJesus]

Your absolutely correct tigran..you just have to have a team of smart people working together. Everybody's gifts working as one.

[@tonyallan6998]

Goat Gang is a great group to be a part of. It is real school. Tigran does an amazing job of “making it happen.” I did my first install in 1981. Landscape is in my blood. This kids the real deal.. and you know, he’s not really even a landscaper. He’s a business man and master delegater. And a very good one. Mike is.. laughable. It’s obvious he wants what you have but doesn’t have what it takes to get it. So he tries to outsmart you online to feed his insecurities. If you’re reading this Mike.. follow Tigran’s direction. Get into gratitude and humility. And start chipping away learning construction work. You’re ego is standing in front or your success.

[@youdontknowmyname6956]

I've been in GG for almost 2 years now. The amount of money I gave T doesn't even amount to the amount of money I made off of jobs others in the group gave to me or work I've gotten because I come off as a more professional company than 90% of the other companies around me just from stuff I learned in the group. Also, this whole $90k/m thing. Bro literally gives away whole ass trucks, trailers, excavators, etc. almost every month. He also does Christmas gifts. I never hear about Mike giving his franchisees members Christmas gifts or excavators.

[@xxxdpgxxxx1389]

Tigran is this your burner account ?😂

[@troyscott6580]

@@xxxdpgxxxx1389 LOL

[@danielhausbeck9976]

I like both Tigran Gertz and Mike Andes. I find value in both of you guy’s.

[@ral3178]

Good rebuttal. I love both of you

[@alexmewshaw383]

T is the Hugh Hefner of Landscaping and errybody jealous

[@stetslawncare]

Been in GG a year now. Definitely worth it with all of the valuable information you take away from it.

[@methodicalcuts1252]

Stet is in GG??????

[@stetslawncare]

@@methodicalcuts1252 yes.

[@lawn-order]

@@methodicalcuts1252 Duh. My man is a Goat himself. It is only logical he is in the gang

[@methodicalcuts1252]

@@lawn-order you whack.

[@rafaelalcaraz7250]

Hey bro before I join goat gang how can he help a company like yours with leads? I wanna help my dads business here in California but the only thing we need help with is leads

[@lumberjackhardwoodsupply]

Gotta say mike does not tear you down as a person in his video.

[@landmarkcreations1183]

Both Mike and Tigran got to where they are from hard work and drive. Maybe different views and perspectives on how to get there but nonetheless both successful

[@angelcarrascoza3996]

I listen to both! These guys rock! Proving that it also works to use someone else’s clout for click bait! Lol But they both talk alittle to much smack online to be cool in real life… Honestly you both have changed my life though ! Keep killing it 🎉

[@paulnicholson8524]

So true. Imagine doing the same thing over and over and over? It sux after a lifetime.

[@brothersworks3963]

When someone body do good in life always its a heaters there 😂😂😂

[@mikeutubename]

I've been in the business for a long time- don't know who the other guy is but T knows his stuff. His videos and business are legit. I joined goat gang 2 months ago and it's a great resource of people sharing experience and knowledge. Anyone hating on T is prob jealous. Try and do a 100k - 1m construction project and be profitable, you'll realize lawn care is basic and that's why it's basic money.

[@esexavo]

the other guy owns a lawn business 100 times bigger than Ts, 😂. what matters is the money , basic money is worth just as much as kool money. I do what T does, but my business does more commercial projects which are worth a lot more because of the scale. I own my equipment i don’t rent or buy debt. half lf my stuff isn’t shiny or new but it gets the job done just as good as my new stuff. mikes tells people keep your operations cost low so you can scale your business

[@mikeutubename]

@@esexavo I think you missed the point of my comment. I was saying T is legit and there's really no need to hate on him. Seemed like the other guy was trying to say T doesn't actually have a real operation. Usually haters are jealous. I do both construction and lawn care, basic money meaning basic profit margins comparably. There's a reason why construction commands higher profits. Scaling your business can be done successfully by saving cash and using debt, I watch a lot of companies do both, some make it and some don't. Glad you're doing well in your business with your stategy, though.

[@esexavo]

@@mikeutubename He wasn’t hating on him, at all T runs a decent business, did you see the video where mike was training one of Ts followers, the man was addicted to debt, the man was basically making min wage with like 14 guys working for him, and he had a daughter with cancer. T was laughing about the situation when mike confronted him about it. that itself speaks of who t is as a person. He is a great sales person, like amazing at sales, but using debt alone to make a business is Dumb af. I also use both, but showing off shiny new stuff in my opinion just shows what you are inside. I can literally buy a lambo cash , thats just like 250k its not a lot yet I drive a 2013 fiesta, I own a home T rents , The bank doesn’t own my house, I am also developing 3 properties right now almost done with 2. self funded. I could get a loan, but I am not even close to being wealthy in order to use debt correctly.

[@mikeutubename]

No, I didn't see the video you are referring to. I agree with a lot of what you're saying. I also like what T does as far as sharing content and what goes on the the fb group. I don't know him personally so I can't comment on his character. Sounds like you're doing really well and that's great dude 👍 Shows there's a good balance of using saved funds and debt strategically.

[@esexavo]

@@mikeutubename It has been a long road, following any influencer on line is never a good idea, taking what makes sense for you applying it to your specific situation is great, T is obviously doing something right, but using it to take advantage of others , disregarding their situation do you really want to make money that way? depends on who you are. I hope you are doing well too brother, don’t take what you see online too seriously, its so ez to fall for something when you are not in the best state of mind. am only 33 so I have a lot to learn but I seen a lot and learned a lot from a lot of nice people good luck

[@danielmoreno695]

I was a yard maintenance guy with 140 monthly accounts making $11k monthly. I steped it up and went into Commercial Landscape and Maintenance. My first year (2022) I made $870k and this year Ill be making $1.4 million. Lawn/yard maintenance is not the answer long term.

[@JasonSheptycki]

😂😂 I used to enjoy mike, but he is a big joke. Just copies everyone but doesn't give credit to the people he takes his systems from. He just gave you even more views by trying to hate on you 😂🎉🎉

[@MikeAndes]

Which systems have I ever "taken" from someone? LOL

[@JasonSheptycki]

@Mike Andes lol for one your new copilot software looks like a complete copy of autopilot by Jonathan Pototschnik . The name is basically the same as well.

[@Livingwater86]

Both need God in there Life

[@takingafatdump]

you need to get some soft box lighting so we can really see that lambo

[@brentcourson23]

😂😂😂😂these videos are awesome. Tigrans the man!

[@johnrunge6349]

The MOMENT I saw that video from Mike, I just knew there'd be an Even Better response video that would shatter all of his talking points. The way he presents himself in his videos is way too condescending like he knows everything.

[@zvxbruh]

Andes is pretty smart tbh ngl

[@byronsmail1766]

Tigren. I've watched your videos since day 1. I am always impressed but your positive mindset. You seem like a guy cool. Keep up the great work!

[@brianperez3920]

You the man tigran you know your business😎

[@nodrogskram1857]

Mowing lawns is stupid and repetitive. I own a lawn and landscape company and I hate the lawn days. I want out

[@80hdcrypto]

Closed my first Backyard landscape remodel my first year in business as a “lawn care company”. Love you T, I agree I can’t stand it when I’m mowing lawns lol

[@hunterthegermanshepardsgre2072]

We should applaud people’s successes and learn from each other, not tear down other people. It’s not his money, don’t worry about it. Just my opinion.

[@matt800m6]

I guarantee you Ts construction company is a money maker that’s how he has a super car. Listen to T guys he doesn’t have to make these videos…I salute you T

[@KELLON30]

I’m mostly a Lawncare and do landscaping also not as much as lawn care but you a real one T!

[@Dell_214]

12:10 facts we quit mowing lawns few years ago!

[@handyscapersllc]

T you was actually the 1st one to fire shots at ppl who mow 😂 now I guess it's war. I've followed you for 4 or 5 yrs now and I also follow Mike. I mow and I hardscape. I got into hardscaping kinda because of you. I wanted to make 12k a week hardscaping cause we make 12k a month mowing.

[@Lawn-Stewards]

Lmao y'all are both hilarious

[@abeltoomowlawncarecompany8481]

That's what it is bro and I think you're just a good person and good for you man awesome congratulations

[@skynet0813]

This dude is legit, I’m watcher from way back when he used crushed rock granite looks so good in sunlight.

[@eastendmafia1773]

Charging $524 per man per day? And then you criticize lawn guys? Bro, that 65 an hour. That isn’t even sustainable once you pay them, insurance, workers comp, put tools in their hand, how are you even making money? And each one of your rebuttals still had holes in it that I’m sure Mike can joyfully make another video with.

[@TigranGertz]

Charge $800+ a day. Simple math. You should have paid attention in school

[@eastendmafia1773]

@@TigranGertz 800+? You always can tell when someone is lying when there are too many zeros.

[@TigranGertz]

@@eastendmafia1773 ?

[@texasprofessionalsolutions219]

Another awesome video! Thanks T!

[@topfan06]

Let him hate he ain't putting a roof or food on your table

[@glclawncarellccentraltexas8766]

love your sense of humor, you're funny guy. He just need a girlfriend, you should set him up for a date.

[@alanduenas8881]

Bro it’s California!!!!! These people don’t understand the price differences

[@jstu45]

Lil mike loves Goat Gang

[@shxve1629]

I feel like t is such a great guy and they hate for no reason but the internet brings good and bad

[@moedoe9167]

I could tell u got bullied when u were a kid

[@freddy2639]

I’m agree with you, I’m in the business

[@Sutherland420]

Everybody who has owned their own landscaping business knows there is no money in cutting lawns at $40-60 per cut and $800 per driveway for snow removal. But there is tons of money in interlocking/landscaping projects at $20 per sq ft. Tigran charges at least $24-$30 per sq ft for interlocking. Augusta barely gets $40-$50 per weekly cut and $600-$800 per season for snow removal. Augusta makes money off sales, their franchisee's make peanuts, who also front all the costs and overhead. Plus employees make way more money doing interlocking/landscaping projects than p4p doing everything themselves as a one man crew. It is also funny how on big landscaping projects, customers pay extras no problem, rarely complain and treat you so well. You only have one invoice or one customer to deal with that month. With lawn care and snow removal you make so little, yet everybody complains about every little thing, never want to pay for extras, treat all employees like crap, and need to invoice and deal with so many horrible customers. Just look at Augusta's short videos with completely ridiculous customers!!!

[@peanutbutterinterior8512]

You might make little revenue but profit % may be more. And it’s reoccurring

[@Sutherland420]

@peanut butter interior Lawn care is definitely less profit. But you're right, it is recurring. But tons of customers want to skip cuts or go to bi-weekly or monthly when it gets hot. And then it makes it not worth it. Most people for lawn care want to hire the cheapest guy, and with rising costs, the industry just isn't worth it anymore. You would be surprised with how many interlocking jobs they call you back for more work and refer you to neighbours and family

[@e4d578]

You said it best TG. Unless you are willing to divulge an honest accounting. But the truth is, you advertise Goat Gang everytime you post a vid. It is to feed the cycle of money. I am not saying your're not legit. You do great landscaping work. But it makes complete sense to have both arms of your business work together. Just denying it doesn't make it untrue. Saying that it is stupid doesn't make it stupid. In fact, it seems pretty savvy. Tell me why you wouldn't put any money from Goat Gang into Applewood? Aren't they related anyway???? No need to deny anything, it's not like you are doing anything wrong. The more interesting thing is why you won't actually explain why it is "stupid," and why you wouldn't do it.

[@bikes7777]

All our equipment and vehicles are paid for, with cash. Debt and huge overhead will kill every business. It doesn't matter how much revenue you generate, all that matters is your net profit.

[@deebrown360]

It's odd he lumped all costs into overhead. Where's the detailed breakdown? If he doesn't show it, he might be hiding money.

[@KevinPencaPavers]

I’m 14 man I’m enjoying watching you. I’m saving up money for your courses

[@leviwright9705]

This is the entertainment I'm here to see

[@Ironparaside4923]

LMAOO, this video made my day love you T!

[@xrayded5037]

Nice 👍🏽 video. I believe that both of y’all should stop hating on each other though. It’s wrong… the kids that look up to both of y’all are watching these it’s all bad… I would just say that as role models lead by leaders set the example not bashing on each other that’s for little kids.. y’all grown adults… set the example and learn and stay grounded.

[@TigranGertz]

Agree

[@expectatussle]

The blame there falls on Mike, Everything from him has been immature and unprofessional. Right from the get go, he has said Landscaping is not profitable and pushed an incredibly ignorant ideology about it that is completely farce, all so he can bait you into being a franchisee T has done nothing but make a rebuttal to what are very condescending, illogical, hate driven videos by a very short egotistical man who literally lives in a closet.

[@josueangulo6831]

His hating because mowing grass don’t make the same money ass landscaping I run both business maintenance and landscaping I make more money with landscaping

[@MGMG007]

Bc you do it wrong, I like landscaping but if you do lawns the right way, build it the right way, theres a lot of money into it thats why theres big companies that have more profit margin compared to landscaping companies. To each their own.

[@RayWilliamJohansen]

mowing lawns is more profitable but you don't know how to run a business.

[@DonCancel]

I like both of yall stop the drama 😂

[@kevincloonan9787]

Damn T i havent watched a vid in a long time..your beard game is on point !

[@abeltoomowlawncarecompany8481]

Hey bro I'm up here in Monterey Pebble Beach area are you bringing your Lambo up this weekend or what you know it's The Concourse

[@newlawnottawa7354]

Well said T! 🤙

[@randyjacquez3736]

Tigran ur right about everything...

[@troyscott6580]

Crushing. Fantastic way to affirm success.

[@beaubatcheller4133]

goat gang was the best decision I've ever made.

[@jerseyshoredrainagesolutions]

If you don’t have haters.. you’re not doing it right

[@vovkam]

Loving this rivalry guys.

[@abeltoomowlawncarecompany8481]

Got him coach !!good job bro.

[@siliconvalleylife2.048]

Most networks are free, they don't cost $97 a month to join, with additional $200 - $800 per class. Networking for contractors are mostly done locally since construction is regulated locally for the most part. Landscaping mostly based in climate zone. Networking for California contractors with contractors from New York or Texas doesn't help anyone. Most trade networking is done at trade classes provided by industry sponsors and hosted for free at local suppliers locations. Never in construction history has anyone needed to pay an individual to network ??

[@JoeGutters-wl3nt]

Great response man! I love me some haters/fans! Augusta, talk less..just take notes.

[@2wheel93]

KZbin landscaper beef LMFAO

[@lawnbarbers365]

We shouldn’t be hating on each other I changed my life to get away from this both you motivated me

[@MrJaysnuff]

I watch both of you guys, now I’m not in the landscape game but I do pavers and asphalt. I get value from you both. I use to by piece of crap equipment just to go buy more garbage when it breaks down. I learned from you buy new or buy twice! I also know where to spend our money by order of importance

[@peteratkinson1939]

I’ve never mowed a single lawn and did 250k in my second year. Lawn mowing is a waste of time

[@youngboycarlito8927]

True reliability is a big one I can’t Stand when people by used shit that you are rolling the dice if it’s gonna work, or doing band aid fixes just making your hard workers more frustrated. Both these guys have good ideas and are both experts in their own lane, mike shouldn’t be talking down when he only focuses on lawn care he’s not an expert in landscaping like T.

[@abeltoomowlawncarecompany8481]

Hey how do I get it to goat gang I want in bro

[@eaea8326]

Extra money for sure

[@wolfyyybandz]

We knew this was coming 😂🎉

[@siliconvalleylife2.048]

Higher end maintenance companies trend towards horticulture maintenance and away from lawn mowing. Which pays a lot lot lot more : perspective none of those companies use hedge trimmers, everything is handled clipped so you don't have a bunch of unsightly half cut leaves. It's important to fill in the gaps Tigren purposely leaves out to fully understand the conversation. Lawn mowing doesn't pay, it's the lowest denominator. If that's true then how did FMA Landscape Services and Flora Terra Landscape management become multi million dollar businesses ???

[@4SeasonsWithMartin]

I’ve learned a lot from y’all hustlers 💪

[@Gardslawns]

Hardscapers always hate on the mowing guys till they are shoveling gravel. Mowing guys hate on hardscaping til they hit the mid summer burnout. I’ll keep doing my feet and squirt making better profits for easier work.

[@Johnny-300]

Landscapers coming together ha ha ha ha ha ha good one T. When I was in the landscaping business, my own race, were the is biggest haters

[@hornconstruction1393]

Im not in goat gang but if people want to join for some help etc then great , Mike spends his time with instagram and podcast does he work on his company ? also if you can provide a self help service and make some bands great . I hate haters who are mentioning others for subs on youtube

[@dagrind8710]

I watch both of you both have great info

[@laymensgrowing2032]

Lol and here I am again!. I knew we would get a response.

[@ianmccarthy4732]

I knew it was coming 💥

[@alanchavez4617]

Your the real goat

[@wilhelmsteinert4733]

I'm sure they are friends offline

[@CorvetteCarlos]

His head is all fucked up from them engine fumes 🤣 I’ve been watching Tigran he’s the real 🐐

[@kevinsalas6019]

Mike think he knows it all 😂 Hardscape is different from mowing lawn !!!

[@tavv2775]

You made it tigran. Been here since day one.

[@MHFencingCompany]

I’ve been watching T for years and have seen the growth wasn’t that long ago goat gang was nothing and he’s business was still growing, doesn’t make sense in what Mike says as he would have failed along long time ago. Keep going strong T very motivational watching your videos

[@richardryals6082]

U can tell he is miserable all the money and stress jesus is the only peace you can get. Humble your self before the lord and then the real money will come. You're heads in the wrong place you came in the world with nothing and you will exit the same way

[@antonyo7531]

100 FRANCHISES IS BABY MONEY? they do a lot of 30 dollar lawns lol

[@BlueClawGroup]

Whether mowing or construction…gotta Know Your Numbers

[@AarontheGreat89]

Not sure what to say but I like to leave a comment to help that I will grill because Goat Gang has helped me. I have made an additional $75,000 in one year just from networking picking up an egg without breaking it

[@limoslawncare5273]

@MikeAndes @TigranGertz I enjoy watching both of you guys and believe that you both are smart and have areas of business that one is better at in then the other. I think that the reason both of your businesses are the size they are is because you both hustle! Also you both enjoy what you do. I believe Tigran enjoys being able to change the landscape of a property and completely change someone’s backyard into a oasis and Mike enjoys creating a empire of lawncare franchises and making it so if people follow his business model they can make a decent living moving lawns. It may not be the high life of a landscaper with a Lamborghini but that life isn’t for everyone because some of us would let that go to are heads if we got to that point. So that all being said is you all be you and keep creating the good content of trying to build up others with knowledge of how to grow what you both have accomplished and keep being honest and positive with everything you do and I believe you both will continue to succeed in what each of your rolls in life are. Thanks 👍

[@TigranGertz]

Great comment 😎

[@mg-ke3ji]

Lawn boy lol shots fired 😂

[@freddy2639]

God bless you, T

[@J..a..y]

Bro I'd Give My Pinky Finger To Work For You..

[@MGMG007]

No balls

[@MGMG007]

Haha jk

[@brettgscales]

Why does Mike give a shit about what T does?